I PRAISE JESUS! Even as I’m struggling providing for my children. I will keep faith. I get harassed and called names simply for sharing my testimony and asking for prayers. But prayers are all I WANT. I fell on hard times because I was fired from my job as a social worker at Forsyth Hospital because I declined the vaccine. I was denied my medical/religious exemption. I declined because of my pre existing health condition lupus and heart disease. I wish I could go back to the hospital but unfortunately the mandate is still in place all hospitals workers must be vaccinated against covid 19 for hospitals that participate in Medicare and Medicaid. I’m waitressing AND I’m SO THANKFUL, but I’m not making nearly as much as I use too. My husband died years ago. I’m all alone, As a single mother with two autistic children things are so overwhelming on me because my boys require a lot from me. Every month is a struggle to pay bills and to put food on the table. BUT our Heavenly Father gives me courage to not give up because I want to. I’m so discouraged but even as I face homelessness almost every month and even as I get put down and mocked because of my situation and choice. I will keep faith in God! Please pray for me and my boys. God bless. Merry Christmas.
Your comment made my heart ache for you, I'm praying like no other for you and your boys! God bless you beyond your biggest dreams! You got this, look how far you have come and the new strength and smarts you have!! Stay in your faith, God will deliver, he's just currently testing and thats okay! We are blessed to be alive and be tested. We love building strength! I know it can be so hard but try to look at everything as a blessing in disguise. MERRY CHRISTMAS, SENDING YOU LOVE, LIGHT AND BLESSINGS❤❤❤
Your level of knowledge is inspiring, your level of faith is beautiful. God bless you for all you do and spreading the word❤ Merry Christmas and praise our lord and savior Jesus Christ!❤
Happy Saturnalia everyone and in the end I celebrate the Lord’s resurrection which is our salvation. Dr Marshall can justify anything in his mind even though it really isn’t necessary in this instance because I believe that the case has been made for Christ’s birth at another time of year. We are celebrating the Winter Solstice /Saturnalia tomorrow and since we don’t actually know Jesus’s birthday might as well celebrate that as well. Merry Christmas to everyone 🙏🥳🙏
@@annemarinelli7303 Facts are unimportant in the creepy Christian cult. Having invisible enemies is paranoia - a serious mental illness. Christmas was never celebrated by the early Christians. Brainwashing makes the cult of Christianity more creepy and dishonest. NORMAL people type Bible Criticism online and discover that the Holy Bible is complete fiction. How educated are you, Anne?
@@martinkent333 yes, I agree with the fact that they play fast and loose with “facts”. I am not an unbeliever; I just have a problem with the strict adherence of this and other TH-camrs and Catholics to superficial ritualistic practices that actually put distance, I believe between God and mankind. Just as Jesus accused the Pharisees that following too closely the letter of the law thereby losing the spirit of the law is what I perceive to be going on here.
@@annemarinelli7303 NORMAL people triple-check all facts online. Christians trust their happy hustlers. Catholics trust the Christian Holy Men rapists.
@@annemarinelli7303 - Jesus did ALL the Jewish rituals including circumcision. You got a problem with ritual, then you got a problem with Jesus. Protestantism has distorted the Bible including DELETING 7 books without Christs authority.
Jesus Christ was born on December 25. We know that John the Baptist’s father, Zechariah was a priest who served in the temple at Jerusalem. While he was serving an angel appeared announcing that his wife Elizabeth would become pregnant and the boy’s name would be John. The Jewish priests were on a schedule according to their family lineage because the priesthood was hereditary. Zechariah was a priest of the class of Abijah. This is recorded in Luke 1:5. The class of Abijah was the eighth class of priests. This is recorded in Nehemiah 12:17. Each class served one week in the temple twice a year. The Abijah class took their turn during the second week of the Jewish month of Tishri. On our calendar that would fall between 22 and 30 September. Count ahead nine months. We celebrate the birth of John the Baptist on 24 June. How does this connect with Jesus? When the angel comes to Mary to announce the conception of Jesus Christ after her assent, she goes to visit her cousin Elizabeth (John the Baptist’s mother and wife of Zechariah) when Elizabeth was six months pregnant. This is recorded in Luke 1:36. If John the Baptist was conceived around 25 September, this means Jesus was conceived around March 25 -the date Christians celebrate the Annunciation-. Count forward nine more months and you get December 25 as the date for the birth of Jesus Christ. If the early Christians were simply taking over the Saturnalia or the Feast of the birth of Sol Invictus they would have had to go back and fiddle with the details in Luke’s gospel-and not only that….they would also have had to somehow fiddle with the details of the Jewish schedule of priests serving in the temple. Oh yes, the other detail is that there are records that Christmas was celebrated on December 25 from the time of St Telephorus-the seventh pope who was born in 115 AD. The cult of the birth of Sol Invictus was not established until 274 AD, so if anybody was copying celebrations, it is more likely that the Roman Emperor Aurelian was copying the already existing feast of Christmas-the birthday of Christ the Unconquered Son of God-than the other way around. (Gavin Ashenden)
Good job documenting all that for us! It would also make a lot of sense that Mary might be helping Elizabeth when Zachariah was serving his other week in the year. I believe this matches?
@@jordanmiller3927 NORMAL people type Bible Criticism online and discover that the Holy Bible is complete fiction. How educated are you, Jordan? The ancient Hebrews had zero myths? Do you also believe in the Greek myths?
Before seeing this, I had always accepted the Protestant/atheist “You guys just converted a Roman holiday to make your new religion more acceptable” argument. But having heard this, if we were in a civil court where the standard is “more likely than not”, yeah, I think Christmas is on right day 🙏🏻🎄
Christian hustlers are superior to Scientology. Doris, NORMAL people type Bible Criticism online and discover the Holy Bible is fiction. How educated are you?
Dec 22 is the shortest day, but the days begin to lengthen again on Dec 25. I suspect they chose this day as a reference to Christ's death and resurrection. The story of our redemption is written in the stars!
@@pacomaciasarrate6809 Christian brainwashing enslaves rubes, dimwits and the spiritually constipated. Use Holy Water enemas - today!!!! Spew on an atheist and make this something that they can remember you by................. Something unimaginably precious to treasure............
I have never heard the explanation of Dec 25th. Thank you for the breakdown and making it a biblical explanation. I always heard it was a pagan holiday.
Early Christians never celebrated this cult holiday. Only brainwashed ones do. Dojan, NORMAL people type Bible Criticism online and discover that the Holy Bible is complete fiction. How educated are you?
I was just explaining to my teenage kids a couple of days ago that there's every imaginable attack on Christianity made to sound reasonable. They're there to tempt us with doubt and disregard for the Lord to indulge our prideful selfishness. The purpose of telling my kids, and anyone who may want to listen, is with the hope that they not fall for it as I did. I didn't stop being an atheist till my thirties.
@@pacomaciasarrate6809 The Christian cult attracts the gullible. No one is able to deprogram a Christian from the cult. Completely willing to die for the poop. Bible Criticism is of no interest to anyone in the Christian cult. They shine with unimaginable ignorance................................ You must be proud being laughed at, Cupcake!
Happy 6 month anniversary of the overturn of Roe v. Wade! Remember it happened on the Feast of the Nativity of St. John the Baptist in a year which just happened to also be the Feast of the Sacred Heart! Blessed by the Visitation. We know St. John the Baptist was 6 months older than our Lord. We know when his father Zechariah was on duty as high priest in the temple. Our faith is historical and real. It’s not mere sentiment. Merry Christmas everyone!
I once had a girlfriend who was raised in the Church of Christ. Her dad didn’t want his family celebrating Christmas because he said “ it wasn’t mentioned in the Bible”. Fortunately l, her Italian- American mother made sure her kids experienced the joys of the holiday. It was the first time I had heard “Christian” objections to Christmas.
It would be a good idea to inform this and ALL Protestants that NOT everything was written in the Bible; Acts 15:27, Jn.20:30, Phil.4:9, 2Tim.2-2, 2Thes.2:15. Protestants believe in the "Rapture, Holy Trinity, Tithing 10% of their Salary, Bible" so they claim and none of this is written in the Bible...FACT! Here is to order of Belief! 1st and foremost, Our Lord Jesus Christ, 2nd, His one and ONLY Catholic Church founded by Jesus Christ and the Apostles in 33A.D. 3rd, Holy Tradition. For the first 400 years, there were NO Bibles and 4th; The Bible which assembled by the Catholic Church that under Pope Damasus and St. Jerome who gathered all the writings, Epistles, Gospels and translated them from the Original Hebrew, Greek and Aramaic into the language of the day, (Latin) in its Entirety with its table of contents AND in what order they would be, INCLUDING the so called 7 extra books that the father of Protestantism (Martin Luther) removed along with parts of Daniel and Esther.
But having sex before marriage is a sin, kids out of wedlock is a sin also, abortions is a sin but I guess that's fine for that family. Lmaoooo hypocrites
@@Terry-te1ij Mt.15:18 and Proverbs 12:14, Your sarcastic filthy reply proves that your heart is full of Evil and it has come out of your mouth. I could say that your bowels residing above your shoulders are full...But I won't.
@@rosegold799 WE, are all sinners! All that you mentioned are sins, including even thinking/entertaining of or lustful looks and many more....however, Our Lord Jesus Christ died on the cross for our sins and ALL of us have the opportunity to truly repent and be forgiven. 1Jn.1:8; "If we say we have no sin, we deceive ourselves and the truth is not in us"
Thank you Dr. Marshall. I have a colleague who was formerly a Jehovah's Witness who said our Lord Jesus Christ is not the second person of the Holy Trinity. He also said that it would be too cold for shepherds to be tending in December. I told him that the official Catholic teaching is that our Lord Jesus Christ was born on December 25th. I think Jehovah's Witnesses have a sort of Protestant mindset where they think they can interpret Sacred Scripture ignoring Catholic Tradition.
I live in a Baptist Masonic heretical Nova Scotia Canada The Novos order Catholic Churches are mostly empty and struggling and many closed. Beautiful historic dilapidated wooden churches like the one at Church Point may be demolished. There is one group on Facebook that tries to organize traditional Latin mass in Halifax area but it’s once a year at most it appears. I wish we could organize in a broader sense and grow the traditional communities across the Americas and save the churches here. It’s really discouraging. The Acadian expulsion basically destroyed the Catholic faith here. Every corner there is a Baptist church and they don’t like Mary and I can’t connect with this mindset. I can’t attend Novos Ordo as it’s unbearable to listen to listen and endure the LGBTQ agenda and religious indifferentism. This is an example of the crisis we are in Eastern Canada. What are we to do Taylor?? Merry Christmas to you and everyone here. My son and I are so grateful for your content. God bless🙏
G'day Bluenoser! I live here in Eastern Canada as well; just across the border, in New Brunswick. There are virtually no Traditional Latin Masses held in the Maritimes; only once a year or so, even in Fredericton and the like. However, I would still very much recommend finding as reverant a Novus Ordo as you can; there is simply no substitute for the Most Holy & Spotless sacrifice of the Mass. I have found that the beauty of the architecture often coincides with the reverence of the Mass; the more traditional the physical appearance, usually means it will be more traditional, spiritually. May God deliver us from our wickedness, and rescue us from this liturgical abuse. Sancta Maria, Mater Dei, ora pro nobis.
Brainwashing helps the Christian cult members reach Christian ecstasy every Sunday! NORMAL people simply type Bible Criticism online and discover that the Holy Bible is complete fiction. How educated are you, Rube? The ancient Hebrews had zero myths?
Wishing you and all a blessed and peaceful, humble, and joyous Christmas...The King of kings comes to earth, He is Jesus Christ Lord of Lords and Saviour of all who come to him and follow his word....🙏.
Having invisible enemies is a sign of paranoia - a serious mental illness. You must be proud of your mental health, Christian. Do your kids poop their pants?
I honestly wish that the Body of Christ would stop accepting the fiery darts from the evil ones, to argue over such insignificant items such as this. Christ CAME to Earth; He IS Emmanuel = "God with us"; THAT is what is important. NOT what day or season He was born in. I appreciate teachers like Dr. Marshall trying to share the info, but as believers in Christ, we must remember to not get bent out of shape over trivial stuff like this. One Day, we WILL find out all there is to know, IF the Eternal Godhead chooses to share that information with us. Until then, I myself resolve to not argue over it. I am eternally grateful that the Father sent the Son to save us from our sins. That is what truly matters-that we recognize what He did for us. Praise God for allowing His Son to leave Glory to come to Earth, be born, live as fully Man and fully God, sacrifice Himself for the entire world, and provide a way back to the Father. That is the best gift one can receive!🥰 Merry Christmas to you and your family, Dr. Marshall.🙏💖🌲✡📖✝
Truth matters! With myths, days and seasons are unimportant. The Incarnation, on the other hand, is a historical fact, therefore the historical details *do* matter. What's more, by questioning the traditional date of Christ's birth, and by linking it with the worship of false gods, the Devil creates doubts with regard to other Catholic teaching and is effectively leading souls into hell. Meanwhile you fold your palms and ask how this is important? Refusing to argue against lies is not piety, it's cowardice. It doesn't come from an ironclad faith - quite the contrary, it comes from a suspicion that maybe the pagans and the heretics and the atheists are right. Dr. Marshall is right to teach the truth. For far too long the Church has ceded ground to the Enemy, and every inroad the devil makes, makes it that much more difficult to defend what is "important."
Christian brainwashing works? One billion cult members all completely willing to die for this poop, and no credibility whatsoever? How educated are you, Debbie?
Hi there, I live in Spain. Today I saw a shepard herding his sheep out on the field around here where I live. It is so warm you could actually go swimming and Israel is obviously warmer than Spain this time of the year, because Israel is further to the South. So what a strange argument Jesus could not be born in December.
Since I was born on the Annunciation, March 25th, I’m surprised Dr. Marshall didn’t mention the reason the Annunciation is celebrated on March 25th. Great calculations involved which make sense.
Thank you for that Video Segment Dr. Marshall! Thank you Mary for being the Faithful Handmaiden of the Lord. Pax Christi! Merry Christmas! ✝️✡️🇻🇦⛪📿🍞🍷🕊️🐑🙏🗡️🎄🎇❤️👍
Sukkot falls on Sept 24th in 6AD, the first year of Harrod Jrs rule... If everyone was setting up the sukkots on the temple mound it makes sense it would be an unpopular duty to do the temple sacrifices, and also would explain why the temple was basically empty when Gabriel appeared. ALSO, Zacks priestly division had a responsibility over the Tabernacle specifically didn't they?)
My answer is now simply John the Baptist was born June 24th and six months later Mother Mary gave birth precisely on December 25th to our Lord and Saviour the Messiah! Happy birthday Jesus!✝️🕊️🙏❤️❤️❤️
Dr Taylor, how is it possible for the Blessed mother to be already 3 months pregnant with Jesus, at the Anunciation, when Angel Gabriel announced at the same time that Mary's cousin, Elizabeth, is 6 month pregnant with John, the baptist?
Yes BUT... Mary visited Elizabeth... WHEN ? The day/week of her divine conception ? Several weeks/months after that ? I don't recall this point be specified in the NT !? Am I wrong ? BUT... your *Master point* is the fact that the Apostles surely celebrated Jesus's birthday the right day for Mary would have told them !!! What have always puzzled me though is why NO gospel have any stories/account of Jesus's birthday date ! Or crucifixion/Resurrection date for the same matter ! Very... bizarre !!!
Why does Spain and other EU countries celebrate the three kings on January 6th for giving kids presents? Many in Europe have told me January 6th is Jesus actual birthday.
I keep telling people who argue that December 25th is the pagan holiday and not Jesus birthday. But that’s not the only thing Pagans have managed to confuse. The only times shepherds spend time in the fields is the month after June 21st, and this is when sheep mate and the gestation period is Five months which would also put Jesus in the Manger when the baby lambs were being born mid December until around December 25th. There was an astronomer, and for the life of me I can’t find him now, who showed the planets Jupiter, Venus, and the Star Regulus aligning over Bethlehem around that date December 25th - 27th. . But there is much confusion about that too, and some people I believe are following the alignments for the wrong year, and they estimate it based on that for the wrong period. But I know you are correct. I think it’s more than that as well. Almost like something I can feel is true.
Not to mention that Jesus Christ, Himself, in his ministry of THREE YEARS, with all 12 of the Apostles at His side, would have celebrated His Birthday every year during those 3 years. So the Apostles would have been well informed of Jesus Christ’s Birthday!!! Humans that try to pick apart days and events that HONOR GOD, need to realize that it is the evil one that is fueling this chaos and doubt. 🙏🏼
How about John the Baptist was born in December and Lord Jesus Christ born on 17th June as described by the astronauts 2 bc all the planets aligned on this date. When was the Roman census taken that caused Mary and Joseph to travel to Bethlehem? In June?
@@martinkent333 I suppose then that you're far more educated than every believer throughout history and our contemporaries (since you probably argue that we now have some new knowledge/revelation and modern science/religion though still based on Aristotelian methods). I can't blame you since I believed the same as you for decades and being gifted and over educated made it fairly easy to give into pride. I do pity your destructive desire to convince others of that which leads at the very least to an ungrounded nihilistic perspective eventually(I'll keep my phrasing secular); meanwhile, believing yourself to be virtuously educating. This gives you no positive value nor long-term satisfaction.
There is a manuscript known as Chronography 354, that constitutes the most ancient mention of a pagan god celebrated on the 25th of December. Said calendar also mentions that the celebration of Christ is the same day, therefore acknowledging that the date of the birth of Christ was prior to the pagan celebration. This proves the exact opposite, pagans took the date of the birth of Christ and put a pagan celebration on the same date. This is in an article by John Sorensen, titled Why is Christmas on the 25th of December. There is also a study by Steven Hijmans called Sol: the sun in the art and religions of Rome. In its 588 page states that there is no evidence that the religious celebration of the sun was prior to the Christmas celebration. The traditional celebration of the sun are registered in the imperial calendars were the 8 or 9 of August, possibly August 28 and December 11. In 1985, FAO, the Food and Agricultural Organization of the United Nations published a detailed study done by professor H Epstein of the Hebrew University of Jerusalem, one of the major experts of the time on this subject, regarding the Ahuasi sheeps, which are the ones that were and are bred in Israel. In his study, which doesn't talk about religion or Christmas, explains the practices of the nomads, semi-nomads, bedouins, and fellahin sedentary farmers that tended to the land and sheep. He says that in Irak, the main season for the Ahuasi sheep to give birth is November, in Lebanon, Arab Republic of Siria, and Israel is December and January. He also states that bedouins and fellahin don't know anything about homes nor tents, they live entirely in open air next to their flock of sheep under their care. They work 365 days a year 13 to 16 hours a day. For cold days they have sheep clothing, sheep blankets and fire. Joseph Henrich Friedlift, I understood he placed Saint Zachary at the Temple between September 22nd and September 30th.
I’ve heard of another reason why Christ was born on the 25 of December: as a result of Christ’s perfection, He lives to be exactly 33 years old, from conception to death. If Christ was conceived on Good Friday, nine months later would be December, the month of His birth
That timing is ONLY if you think she was 3 months pregnant when she went to her aunt/cousins. If John and Yeshua jumped in the womb upon Mary going to greet John's mother, then Mary was further along than 3 months, more like 4 or 5.
What you wrote seems reasonable, but precludes the possibility of God carrying out anything outside of what your mind deems appropriate. We're all easily fooled by our pride in our reasoning though most of us fail to grasp simple concepts such as gravity, differential calculus, the workings of DNA or exactly what we did that upset another person.
@@pacomaciasarrate6809 doesn't preclude anything God does. Pointing out man's calculation. In Rabbinic Judaism, Yeshua was conceived during Hanukkah and born in the Sept festival. This presentation follows what the Catholics follow.
@@Putt6523 ok, the kicking in the womb by a three month old being not possible for God would be one of man's silly judgements. Your insistence on the validity of the point you repeat reveals pride. I don't much care for what post Christ Judaism has to opine regarding the Messiah, otherwise I might be annoyed as some have Christ in a vat of excrement as punishment in the afterlife. Your insistence on your point without actually addressing mine, may show some hutzpa, but is not conducive to any sincere communication that may be productive for either of us. So you've shown me that I was as ineffective at formulating a convincing objection to your comment as you were with your response in cohesively refuting my point. May God bless you.
@@pacomaciasarrate6809 thank you for your response. God blesses me everyday, or I wouldn't be here, after all HE gives us life. Yes, GOD can have a baby at three months in the womb kick and it be felt. All I was pointing out is that according to Judaism the timing is different, after all Yeshua was Jewish, I would think since he was and followed all Jewish "holidays" they would know better than anyone in the timing of when Yeshua was conceived and born. If you choose to ignore post Christ Judaism, that is your choice, you forget that the Disciples would fall into that category as well, and that the Catholic church is far removed from what Peter was teaching. If you get annoyed then perhaps that is a legalistic thought process instead of insightfulness thru the Holy Spirit. I am hopeful GOD removes the veil from your eyes.
I still think that Christmas should be in July, based on when the Roman census was taken. And, as the character Thorfinn on "Ghosts" said, the moving of Christmas to coincide with the various pagan holidays around the winter solstice is a major cultural appropriation. But, I'm fine with that. Do we want Christmas interfering with the Fourth of July? What would you rather have on your roof, a sleigh with 8 reindeer or a dune buggy.
Funny, I read this article and then while looking around Facebook, I ran across a bunch of "experts" and Biblical scholars who are spouting all sorts of data proving Jesus as born in September or the winter or the fall. They also spout the "pagan holiday" theory.
It comes to my mind the Census ordered by the king ,,,that was the reason (I thinks ) that the Vigen Mary and St.Joseph were at Bethlehem ..maybehistorical records of that census can be found to correlatw the dates ..
Shepherds were in the fields watching their flocks at the time of Jesus' birth (Luke 2:7-8). Shepherds were not in the fields during December. According to Celebrations: The Complete Book of American Holidays, Luke's account "suggests that Jesus may have been born in summer or early fall. Since December is cold and rainy in Judea, it is likely the shepherds would have sought shelter for their flocks at night" (Robert Myers, 1972, p. 309). Similarly, The Interpreter's One-Volume Commentary (1980) says this passage "would argue against the birth's occurring on Dec. 25 since the weather would not have permitted" shepherds watching over their flocks in the fields at night. Second, Jesus' parents came to Bethlehem to register in a Roman census (Luke 2:1-4). Such censuses were not taken in winter, when temperatures often dropped below freezing and roads were in poor condition. Taking a census under such conditions would have been self-defeating. Given the desire to bring pagans into Christianity, William Walsh says, "The important fact then which I have asked you to get clearly into your head is that the fixing of the date as December 25th was a compromise with paganism" (The Story of Santa Klaus, 1970, p. 62). The biblical accounts point to the fall of the year as the most likely time of Jesus' birth, based on the conception and birth of John the Baptist. Since Elizabeth (John's mother) was in her sixth month of pregnancy when Jesus was conceived (Luke 1:24-36), we can determine the approximate time of year Jesus was born if we know when John was born. John's father, Zacharias, was a priest serving in the Jerusalem temple during the course of Abijah (Luke 1:5). Historical calculations indicate this course of service corresponded to June 13-19 in that year (E.W. Bullinger, The Companion Bible, 1974, Appendix 179, p. 200).
I was once a pagan and now I’m a Christian. The essence of christianity is turning or changing what was once pagan to Christian. No one knows the day Jesus was born and Dec. 25 may have been a pagan holiday, but now it’s converted to a day we celebrate the berth of Jesus. I don’t see a problem with that.
I had a similar perspective to the one you just expressed, but that was after having been an atheist in part due to all the attacks on everything Christian. Now I see these "rational criticisms/alternate possibilities to the Christian belief system" as attacks to make us doubt and eventually disregard God. Worked on me. So if these "attacks" can be truthfully dismantled, then it is a worthwhile service.
First thing to do is stop using the modern calendar to figure this out. Should be using the Hebrew calendar which has SHORTER months, then converting it to the modern calendar after getting the HEBREW date. Also, shepherds didn't sleep outside with their flocks in December. Ask anyone living in Southern US if they could sleep outside in December. And Saturnalia was a MONTH long "mass" of debauchery & feasting. October is more accurate IMO, but that's just what I figured out in my research. Important message is to GIVE THANKS for Jesus's birth regardless of when it happened. God bless! ❤️🙏🏻
Hey instead of trying to cover up the truth.... Course of Abbyia / Mid June. Tell us about Michael mass. How did it start. Why was is ended. Why is the Michael prayer outlawed today. 9/29. June 13th / Zachariah's Duty weeks.
Remember the Catholic Church didn’t need to place the birth of Jesus exactly on the day that a pagan feast day took place to achieve what the church wanted. Which was to convert pagans to Catholicism! The bible does not mention the 25th of Dec as the birth date of Jesus, nobody knows when Jesus was born. Your guessing otherwise!
Your scholarship is bad with regard to the date of the winter solstice at the time of the early Church fathers. December 25th was the date of the solstice on the Julian calendar back then. It did not become the 22nd until the creation of the Gregorian calendar. The calculation from Jehoiarib is wrong too. According to the Talmud (Ta'anit 4:5) the priest that was serving under that course is derided for having handed his house over to the Romans. But it was only assumed that he did this when the Temple was destroyed on 9 Av. Josephus however tells us there were no priests in the Temple on 9 AV. They had all deserted their posts apparently after the Romans breeched the city walls 3 weeks earlier on 17 Tammuz. This is the day tradition and Josephus both tell us that Temple sacrifice ended. But Josephus adds more detail. He says it is not because they had run out of things to sacrifice. It is because there were no more priests to offer sacrifice. In other words the last day for the House of Jehoiarib was July 14 (17 Tammuz), 70 AD. And that requires another 3 weeks for Zechariah to dilly dally before getting around to making John to work with your December 25th Nativity scenario. But even if you go with what your scholar is saying it certainly is not proven as you have declared. There is in fact a much better argument given in THE GOSPEL OF CREATION (not to be confused with the recent encyclical) where the author makes a case for Easter and Christmas occurring on the same day but separated by 40 years. This argument shows that by that accounting John the Baptist would have been conceived on January 5 (10 Tevet), 9 BC (which fits perfectly (with no need of fudge factors) for Jehoiarib serving on 17 Tammuz, 70 AD. It places John's birth on the 1st day of the Feast of Booths and his circumcision on Shmini Atzeret (the day that commemorates the entire nation of Israel being circumcised after they left the wilderness and enterered the Holy Land). Do some homework, see for yourself. It places Jesus's birth on April 5 (24 Nisan), 8 BC which places His entry into our fallen world 3 days after the last day of Passover, on roughly the same day the Red Sea parted, just as His triumphant entry into the Holy City on the same day as the Israelites triumphantly entered the Holy Land with the parting of the Jordan River. It also places the Presentation 40 days after His birth on the day of Pentecost and on the same day as the Ascension which occurs 40 days after the Resurraction. and iof that is not enough it also places Jesus in the Temple (3 days after Passover, according to Luke) on His 13th Birthday (His Bar Mitzvah birthday) the day a Jewish male has finally come of age and is allowed to publically comment on the Torah.
Consulting my calendar for that time period I see there is only 2 years that matches what you are saying. So I am guessing you are saying that Jesus was either born on December 25, 5 BC or December 25, 2 AD. But since 2 AD seems a bit too late to twist the data to allow Herod to be alive for it that leaves 5 BC as the only possibility. So here is what is wrong with that idea. Of the 7 crucial dates in the lives of Jesus and John in 6-4 BC only 3 can be construed as having an association with an observance on the Hebrew calendar. And that is roughly what you would see by chance. John the Baptist's conception could be connected to Yom Kippur or the 1st day of Sukkot but that is as good as it gets for John. His subsequent birth and circumcision on June 24, and July 3 of 5 BC would be on 19 and 26 Sivan that year and although both are sabbaths, neither is close to a Holiday, Fast or Special Sabbath. As to Jesus, His supposed Incarnation on March 25, 5 BC would have occurred on 17 Adar II and this is not at all what you would expect of one of the 3 greatest events in the history of the created world. The Passover illuminates Good Friday. Should we not expect the same of the Incarnation? His birth and circumcision being on the 2nd and last day of Chanukah that year show some of logic. But why the 2nd day and not the 1st for Christmas. That sounds more like a miss than a hit. And Jesus Himself seems to agree saying that His Resurrection would not be associated with any sign other than the sign of Jonah even though it occurred on the 3rd day of Passover. Now Christ's circumcision being on the last day of the holiday could be a significant match since the last day is treated much like the first. But again, why should it be the circumcision that gets the attention and not the far more important date, Jesus's birth? It would have been less problematic if it had no holiday connection than to have one that outshines the Nativity. It makes no sense. Moving on then to the last date to consider, the Presentation, occuring 40 days after Jesus birth (which is being claimed to be 26 Kislev) places it on February 3 (7 Shevat) and once again there is nothing close here to an observance of any sort. The bottom line is this. God gave us the observances on the Hebrew calendar so that we could see how each is fulfilled in the life of Christ. And we have every reason to expect that any true discernment of the Nativity will yield connections to those observances. Your solution does not do that. It cannot, therefore, be correct.
Excellent research. Thank you for sharing. I come up with late September. I agree that it's not December 25. December 25 is Nimrod's birthday. The tree is definitely pagan. And santa represents satan. May the truth free us all. Jesus Christ is King. God Bless.
This is not scriptural. He is wrong. The Bible tells us Christ preached 3.5 years, and He was crucified on Passover. Go 6 months back and you will come to the time of the Feast of Tabernacle. John 1:14 states “and He Tabernacled with us”. The God of the Bible will not just pick any day for His Son’s birth like the majority of the Church thinks, He would have and did choose one of his Holy days. Just like Christ died on the Passover he would’ve been born on one of God’s holy days. And December does not have one of God’s Holy Days.
Sun dies on the 21st each year. Rises 3 days later. 12/25. Manly P Hall. Mysteries. To end the debate, look and see how many other Saviors were said to be born on the 25th.
The idea that "other saviors were born December 25" is a 19th Century assertion with zero historical basis. The earliest record of any attempt to place any pagan god's birth on December 25 comes from a Christian calendar in 345 A.D., for which there is no corresponding pagan record. So, attributing December 25 to a pagan deity came well after the establishment of Christianity, not before.
@@RstesotTv Length of days had nothing to do with Christmas, although it was important in the pagan scheme of things, because of agriculture. Pagans did their thing fir pagan reasons. Its just mind-boggling that the modern mind is not sufficiently broad to accept that Christians did Christian things for Christian reasons - even to the point of prefering death to doing non-Christian things. As for the idea that there were pagan concepts of communion, that's at least partially true. Tjis is why Christians were not allowed to eat the free meat from pagan temples. The idea of communion, while common as a general concept across a number of religions, differs substantially in the Christian tradition. As a measure of that difference, note that although Christianity came from Judaism, the Christian understanding of communion was - and is - held as the depth of blasphemy. The earliest Christians were executed for it.
@@chriskoch1241 Manly P Hall. The positions of the Sun, Moon and Planets is the foundation of everything. Plus it's true. It's the shortest day. The 21st. 3 days later the days are longer. Pagan in the way they had big ceremonies on the Equinoxes and Solstices. I'm sure it's an accident that picked 12/25,. Come on. Mystery Babylon lives.
Sorry dr Taylor it is not written in the bible the specific date Jesus was born in December it’s just speculation just read the bible we don’t know the things I know Jesus is in heaven as the king and the world know to recognise this !!
Unfortunately when you speak of the weather and the shepherds and sleeping outside in a Manger, 12/25 DOESN'T work. Dr Michael Heiser has a great astronomy lesson on this, following the Magi. September is most likely the month. I've also seen the origins of the holiday and it is in FACT not about Christ. Look it up. We can celebrate the Lord any day just please don't worship the tree or the lights or the gifts....it may not be a Pagan holiday but it originally has nothing to do with the birth of our Savior.
I think more time should be placed on the "Word became Flesh and dwelt amoung us", and the Theology of Mary THEOTOKOS. Those are Credal, from the Four Great Councils, things you got to believe stuff.
its true ....Jesus was born in September,during the feast of trumpets ,that s why the Inns were all full in Bethelehem, the King will be introduced by Trumpets....Constantine change the day of rest from Saturday to Sunday, so what does that tell you.....the people who crucified my Lord were Romans,.. the people who have turned world religion upside down are Romans ....
Jesus Christ himself doesn't want you to celebrate his Birth , he wants you to celebrate his Death, and repent for your sins and believe in his Holy name....
i am a Messianic Jew....My Lord Was Jewish,.. and guess what? he still is....he doesn't wear Rosary Beads and he Still acknowledge s "Gods appointed Times" still stand!!!! thats has nothing to do with Catholic American holidays!!!! Peaganism!!!
I PRAISE JESUS! Even as I’m struggling providing for my children. I will keep faith. I get harassed and called names simply for sharing my testimony and asking for prayers. But prayers are all I WANT. I fell on hard times because I was fired from my job as a social worker at Forsyth Hospital because I declined the vaccine. I was denied my medical/religious exemption. I declined because of my pre existing health condition lupus and heart disease. I wish I could go back to the hospital but unfortunately the mandate is still in place all hospitals workers must be vaccinated against covid 19 for hospitals that participate in Medicare and Medicaid. I’m waitressing AND I’m SO THANKFUL, but I’m not making nearly as much as I use too. My husband died years ago. I’m all alone, As a single mother with two autistic children things are so overwhelming on me because my boys require a lot from me. Every month is a struggle to pay bills and to put food on the table. BUT our Heavenly Father gives me courage to not give up because I want to. I’m so discouraged but even as I face homelessness almost every month and even as I get put down and mocked because of my situation and choice. I will keep faith in God! Please pray for me and my boys. God bless. Merry Christmas.
Your comment made my heart ache for you, I'm praying like no other for you and your boys!
God bless you beyond your biggest dreams!
You got this, look how far you have come and the new strength and smarts you have!! Stay in your faith, God will deliver, he's just currently testing and thats okay! We are blessed to be alive and be tested. We love building strength! I know it can be so hard but try to look at everything as a blessing in disguise.
MERRY CHRISTMAS, SENDING YOU LOVE, LIGHT AND BLESSINGS❤❤❤
Hello single Mother, sometimes it just takes one prayer. I know God will make a way for you. Be blessed 🙏🏻
God bless you and your children
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I, too, have 2 autistic children.
Dr. MARSHALL, your teachings are always fantastic!!
Thank you for teaching us about our faith!!
God bless you and Merry Christmas!
Your level of knowledge is inspiring, your level of faith is beautiful.
God bless you for all you do and spreading the word❤
Merry Christmas and praise our lord and savior Jesus Christ!❤
Happy Saturnalia everyone and in the end I celebrate the Lord’s resurrection which is our salvation. Dr Marshall can justify anything in his mind even though it really isn’t necessary in this instance because I believe that the case has been made for Christ’s birth at another time of year. We are celebrating the Winter Solstice /Saturnalia tomorrow and since we don’t actually know Jesus’s birthday might as well celebrate that as well. Merry Christmas to everyone 🙏🥳🙏
@@annemarinelli7303 Facts are unimportant in the creepy Christian cult. Having invisible enemies is paranoia - a serious mental illness. Christmas was never celebrated by the early Christians. Brainwashing makes the cult of Christianity more creepy and dishonest. NORMAL people type Bible Criticism online and discover that the Holy Bible is complete fiction. How educated are you, Anne?
@@martinkent333 yes, I agree with the fact that they play fast and loose with “facts”. I am not an unbeliever; I just have a problem with the strict adherence of this and other TH-camrs and Catholics to superficial ritualistic practices that actually put distance, I believe between God and mankind. Just as Jesus accused the Pharisees that following too closely the letter of the law thereby losing the spirit of the law is what I perceive to be going on here.
@@annemarinelli7303 NORMAL people triple-check all facts online. Christians trust their happy hustlers. Catholics trust the Christian Holy Men rapists.
@@annemarinelli7303 - Jesus did ALL the Jewish rituals including circumcision. You got a problem with ritual, then you got a problem with Jesus. Protestantism has distorted the Bible including DELETING 7 books without Christs authority.
Jesus Christ was born on December 25.
We know that John the Baptist’s father, Zechariah was a priest who served in the temple at Jerusalem. While he was serving an angel appeared announcing that his wife Elizabeth would become pregnant and the boy’s name would be John.
The Jewish priests were on a schedule according to their family lineage because the priesthood was hereditary. Zechariah was a priest of the class of Abijah. This is recorded in Luke 1:5. The class of Abijah was the eighth class of priests. This is recorded in Nehemiah 12:17. Each class served one week in the temple twice a year. The Abijah class took their turn during the second week of the Jewish month of Tishri. On our calendar that would fall between 22 and 30 September. Count ahead nine months. We celebrate the birth of John the Baptist on 24 June.
How does this connect with Jesus? When the angel comes to Mary to announce the conception of Jesus Christ after her assent, she goes to visit her cousin Elizabeth (John the Baptist’s mother and wife of Zechariah) when Elizabeth was six months pregnant. This is recorded in Luke 1:36. If John the Baptist was conceived around 25 September, this means Jesus was conceived around March 25 -the date Christians celebrate the Annunciation-. Count forward nine more months and you get December 25 as the date for the birth of Jesus Christ.
If the early Christians were simply taking over the Saturnalia or the Feast of the birth of Sol Invictus they would have had to go back and fiddle with the details in Luke’s gospel-and not only that….they would also have had to somehow fiddle with the details of the Jewish schedule of priests serving in the temple.
Oh yes, the other detail is that there are records that Christmas was celebrated on December 25 from the time of St Telephorus-the seventh pope who was born in 115 AD. The cult of the birth of Sol Invictus was not established until 274 AD, so if anybody was copying celebrations, it is more likely that the Roman Emperor Aurelian was copying the already existing feast of Christmas-the birthday of Christ the Unconquered Son of God-than the other way around.
(Gavin Ashenden)
thanks for sharing that
They were Hebrews from the house of Levi, Jesus Christ was born on or very close to December 25.
Good job documenting all that for us!
It would also make a lot of sense that Mary might be helping Elizabeth when Zachariah was serving his other week in the year. I believe this matches?
Where can I read more about this?
@@jordanmiller3927 NORMAL people type Bible Criticism online and discover that the Holy Bible is complete fiction. How educated are you, Jordan? The ancient Hebrews had zero myths? Do you also believe in the Greek myths?
Before seeing this, I had always accepted the Protestant/atheist “You guys just converted a Roman holiday to make your new religion more acceptable” argument. But having heard this, if we were in a civil court where the standard is “more likely than not”, yeah, I think Christmas is on right day 🙏🏻🎄
The judge always asks to see the evidence.
Some mathematic's
is required to achieve the evidence.
The proof is in the pudding.
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@@tomato-ir9xs and yet you are here. Sounds like Jesus brought you here. 💜😊
@@dorarolfzen4132 Only to brainwashed Christians. You should cut back on the Holy Water enemas, Dora.
@@martinkent333 ye man of little faith.
Nicely explained ! Merry Christmas everyone ! And don't forget the good old Christmas Carols when the family is all gathered ! It's the best !
NORMAL people type Bible Criticism online and discover that the Holy Bible is pure fiction. How educated are you, Rube?
Love this explanation!
Christian hustlers are superior to Scientology. Doris, NORMAL people type Bible Criticism online and discover the Holy Bible is fiction. How educated are you?
Dec 22 is the shortest day, but the days begin to lengthen again on Dec 25. I suspect they chose this day as a reference to Christ's death and resurrection. The story of our redemption is written in the stars!
Agreed. These folks are bent and determined 😂to disprove Christ. I feel for their souls.
NORMAL people type Bible Criticism online an discover the Bible is fiction, Rube. How educated are you?
@@martinkent333 since you keep repeating yourself, I'll refer you to my response to you in JosephRaily's comment.
@@pacomaciasarrate6809 Christian brainwashing enslaves rubes, dimwits and the spiritually constipated. Use Holy Water enemas - today!!!! Spew on an atheist and make this something that they can remember you by................. Something unimaginably precious to treasure............
Merry Christmas and a Blessed New Year to you and yours! 🎄
Thank you Dr. Marshall! Merry Christmas! Viva Cristo Rey! My first Christmas as Catholic!!!
Welcome home to the Catholic Church. Merry Christmas.
@@Jerryemcse thank you
I have never heard the explanation of Dec 25th. Thank you for the breakdown and making it a biblical explanation. I always heard it was a pagan holiday.
Early Christians never celebrated this cult holiday. Only brainwashed ones do. Dojan, NORMAL people type Bible Criticism online and discover that the Holy Bible is complete fiction. How educated are you?
I was just explaining to my teenage kids a couple of days ago that there's every imaginable attack on Christianity made to sound reasonable. They're there to tempt us with doubt and disregard for the Lord to indulge our prideful selfishness. The purpose of telling my kids, and anyone who may want to listen, is with the hope that they not fall for it as I did. I didn't stop being an atheist till my thirties.
@@pacomaciasarrate6809 The Christian cult attracts the gullible. No one is able to deprogram a Christian from the cult. Completely willing to die for the poop. Bible Criticism is of no interest to anyone in the Christian cult. They shine with unimaginable ignorance................................ You must be proud being laughed at, Cupcake!
Happy 6 month anniversary of the overturn of Roe v. Wade!
Remember it happened on the Feast of the Nativity of St. John the Baptist in a year which just happened to also be the Feast of the Sacred Heart! Blessed by the Visitation.
We know St. John the Baptist was 6 months older than our Lord. We know when his father Zechariah was on duty as high priest in the temple. Our faith is historical and real. It’s not mere sentiment.
Merry Christmas everyone!
Jeff, NORMAL people type Bible Criticism online and discover that the Holy Bible is complete fiction. How educated are you, Rube?
I once had a girlfriend who was raised in the Church of Christ. Her dad didn’t want his family celebrating Christmas because he said “ it wasn’t mentioned in the Bible”. Fortunately l, her Italian- American mother made sure her kids experienced the joys of the holiday. It was the first time I had heard “Christian” objections to Christmas.
It would be a good idea to inform this and ALL Protestants that NOT everything was written in the Bible; Acts 15:27, Jn.20:30, Phil.4:9, 2Tim.2-2, 2Thes.2:15. Protestants believe in the "Rapture, Holy Trinity, Tithing 10% of their Salary, Bible" so they claim and none of this is written in the Bible...FACT! Here is to order of Belief! 1st and foremost, Our Lord Jesus Christ, 2nd, His one and ONLY Catholic Church founded by Jesus Christ and the Apostles in 33A.D. 3rd, Holy Tradition. For the first 400 years, there were NO Bibles and 4th; The Bible which assembled by the Catholic Church that under Pope Damasus and St. Jerome who gathered all the writings, Epistles, Gospels and translated them from the Original Hebrew, Greek and Aramaic into the language of the day, (Latin) in its Entirety with its table of contents AND in what order they would be, INCLUDING the so called 7 extra books that the father of Protestantism (Martin Luther) removed along with parts of Daniel and Esther.
But having sex before marriage is a sin, kids out of wedlock is a sin also, abortions is a sin but I guess that's fine for that family. Lmaoooo hypocrites
Emptying bowels isn't mentioned in the Bible, so I guess we dont do that either.
@@Terry-te1ij Mt.15:18 and Proverbs 12:14, Your sarcastic filthy reply proves that your heart is full of Evil and it has come out of your mouth. I could say that your bowels residing above your shoulders are full...But I won't.
@@rosegold799 WE, are all sinners! All that you mentioned are sins, including even thinking/entertaining of or lustful looks and many more....however, Our Lord Jesus Christ died on the cross for our sins and ALL of us have the opportunity to truly repent and be forgiven. 1Jn.1:8; "If we say we have no sin, we deceive ourselves and the truth is not in us"
Thank you Dr. Marshall. I have a colleague who was formerly a Jehovah's Witness who said our Lord Jesus Christ is not the second person of the Holy Trinity. He also said that it would be too cold for shepherds to be tending in December. I told him that the official Catholic teaching is that our Lord Jesus Christ was born on December 25th. I think Jehovah's Witnesses have a sort of Protestant mindset where they think they can interpret Sacred Scripture ignoring Catholic Tradition.
The answer is Yes, Blessed Anne Catherine emmerick was told by Jesus 😇🙏🏻💕
Love it. Thank you Dr Marshall. Christ the king is born.
Still hustled by sleazy Christain brainwashing, Rube? It must be fun to be dumb.
Kids, never ever sit on any Christian Holy Man's lap, OK?
I live in a Baptist Masonic heretical Nova Scotia Canada
The Novos order Catholic Churches are mostly empty and struggling and many closed.
Beautiful historic dilapidated wooden churches like the one at Church Point may be demolished.
There is one group on Facebook that tries to organize traditional Latin mass in Halifax area but it’s once a year at most it appears.
I wish we could organize in a broader sense and grow the traditional communities across the Americas and save the churches here.
It’s really discouraging.
The Acadian expulsion basically destroyed the Catholic faith here.
Every corner there is a Baptist church and they don’t like Mary and I can’t connect with this mindset.
I can’t attend Novos Ordo as it’s unbearable to listen to listen and endure the LGBTQ agenda
and religious indifferentism.
This is an example of the crisis we are in Eastern Canada.
What are we to do Taylor??
Merry Christmas to you and everyone here.
My son and I are so grateful for your content. God bless🙏
G'day Bluenoser! I live here in Eastern Canada as well; just across the border, in New Brunswick. There are virtually no Traditional Latin Masses held in the Maritimes; only once a year or so, even in Fredericton and the like. However, I would still very much recommend finding as reverant a Novus Ordo as you can; there is simply no substitute for the Most Holy & Spotless sacrifice of the Mass. I have found that the beauty of the architecture often coincides with the reverence of the Mass; the more traditional the physical appearance, usually means it will be more traditional, spiritually. May God deliver us from our wickedness, and rescue us from this liturgical abuse. Sancta Maria, Mater Dei, ora pro nobis.
It doesn't matter. We celebrate His birth and thst's enough for me!
Jesus💝 is
the reason
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season.🌿
Thank You Dr. Marshall
Wow, awesome explanation.
Brainwashing helps the Christian cult members reach Christian ecstasy every Sunday! NORMAL people simply type Bible Criticism online and discover that the Holy Bible is complete fiction. How educated are you, Rube? The ancient Hebrews had zero myths?
Merry Christmas to your wonderful Family. Thanks you for the videos. I got my PrayLatin Cards, thanks to you.
Wishing you and all a blessed and peaceful, humble, and joyous Christmas...The King of kings comes to earth, He is Jesus Christ Lord of Lords and Saviour of all who come to him and follow his word....🙏.
MERRY CHRISTMAS to all🌲✨🌟 and stay blessed and protected from Evil 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻
Having invisible enemies is a sign of paranoia - a serious mental illness. You must be proud of your mental health, Christian. Do your kids poop their pants?
@@martinkent333 I have talked respectfully with you. But the way you answer is not respectful. So the conversation is over.
@@serafinatruth4029 Cults are like that. Folks giggle at your smug gullibility. Did the early Christians celebrate Christmas? How educated are you?
Yes he did walk the earth 🌎,LOOK AT THE LOST TOMB OF JESUS. AMEN 🙏 🙏 🙏
2️⃣➕2️⃣ This makes PERFECT mathematical sense ! Dr. Taylor is right on !! 👍👍👍 Thank you Dr. Taylor
I honestly wish that the Body of Christ would stop accepting the fiery darts from the evil ones, to argue over such insignificant items such as this. Christ CAME to Earth; He IS Emmanuel = "God with us"; THAT is what is important. NOT what day or season He was born in. I appreciate teachers like Dr. Marshall trying to share the info, but as believers in Christ, we must remember to not get bent out of shape over trivial stuff like this. One Day, we WILL find out all there is to know, IF the Eternal Godhead chooses to share that information with us. Until then, I myself resolve to not argue over it. I am eternally grateful that the Father sent the Son to save us from our sins. That is what truly matters-that we recognize what He did for us. Praise God for allowing His Son to leave Glory to come to Earth, be born, live as fully Man and fully God, sacrifice Himself for the entire world, and provide a way back to the Father. That is the best gift one can receive!🥰 Merry Christmas to you and your family, Dr. Marshall.🙏💖🌲✡📖✝
Agreed.....what did they do when the calendar changed....?
Truth matters!
With myths, days and seasons are unimportant. The Incarnation, on the other hand, is a historical fact, therefore the historical details *do* matter. What's more, by questioning the traditional date of Christ's birth, and by linking it with the worship of false gods, the Devil creates doubts with regard to other Catholic teaching and is effectively leading souls into hell. Meanwhile you fold your palms and ask how this is important? Refusing to argue against lies is not piety, it's cowardice. It doesn't come from an ironclad faith - quite the contrary, it comes from a suspicion that maybe the pagans and the heretics and the atheists are right.
Dr. Marshall is right to teach the truth. For far too long the Church has ceded ground to the Enemy, and every inroad the devil makes, makes it that much more difficult to defend what is "important."
@@carissstewart3211 you very eloquently stated the perspective to which I was loosely arriving. Thank you.
Merry Christmas Sir Marshall and to all your family, keep counting to fight the good fight
Very interesting Dr.Taylor. Thank you & I wish you & your loved ones A BLESSED And joyful Christmastime. ❄️✝️😇
Christian brainwashing works? One billion cult members all completely willing to die for this poop, and no credibility whatsoever? How educated are you, Debbie?
The short answer is yes Our Lord was born on December 25!
Blessed were the nomadic shepherds who dwelled in the open field in the cold, so were the only ones to witness the Star and be approached by Angels.
Hi there, I live in Spain. Today I saw a shepard herding his sheep out on the field around here where I live. It is so warm you could actually go swimming and Israel is obviously warmer than Spain this time of the year, because Israel is further to the South. So what a strange argument Jesus could not be born in December.
Thanks for this information Dr. Marshall. God bless you and your family, Merry belated Christmas.
Really excellent!!!! Thank you so much!!!!
Thank you very much!! Merry Christmas to you and your family!
All I got to say Dr. Marshall is... "Booyah" ...and praise be to the Infant Christ the King!
Merci Dr Taylor pour l'explication et bonne année 2023 a toute ta familles.
A classic from back in the day! Back when uplifting catechesis was of higher priority than the lucrative opportunity of conspiracy and controversy.
Just as you said shepherds are not herding their sheep in winter, Bethlehem during December suffers in almost 2 feet of snow
Since I was born on the Annunciation, March 25th, I’m surprised Dr. Marshall didn’t mention the reason the Annunciation is celebrated on March 25th. Great calculations involved which make sense.
Thank you for that Video Segment Dr. Marshall!
Thank you Mary for being the Faithful Handmaiden of the Lord.
Pax Christi! Merry Christmas!
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Love this! Thanks Dr. T.
Thank you Dr.Marshall
Nailed it.
CHRIST Will be born in your heart, any time you find room in "your" Inn.
As s Protestant I appreciate you. I believe the Catholic Church was right about this too!
Now, does the change from the Julian to Gregorian Kalendar upset anything?
Sukkot falls on Sept 24th in 6AD, the first year of Harrod Jrs rule... If everyone was setting up the sukkots on the temple mound it makes sense it would be an unpopular duty to do the temple sacrifices, and also would explain why the temple was basically empty when Gabriel appeared. ALSO, Zacks priestly division had a responsibility over the Tabernacle specifically didn't they?)
My answer is now simply John the Baptist was born June 24th and six months later Mother Mary gave birth precisely on December 25th to our Lord and Saviour the Messiah! Happy birthday Jesus!✝️🕊️🙏❤️❤️❤️
Holy Christmas Doc
Dr Taylor, how is it possible for the Blessed mother to be already 3 months pregnant with Jesus, at the Anunciation, when Angel Gabriel announced at the same time that Mary's cousin, Elizabeth, is 6 month pregnant with John, the baptist?
John was a Baptist?
Thank you.
Compelling! But where does that leave the old calendar before the Roman calendar? They celebrated the birth of Jesus on Jan 7th?
It could be March before the Ceasars added July and August
He was conceived on Dec 24th born approx. Sept 27th. It's written and if you do the math and READ the text it is very clear. Have you read it ?
I agree. Thank you.
Yes BUT... Mary visited Elizabeth... WHEN ? The day/week of her divine conception ? Several weeks/months after that ? I don't recall this point be specified in the NT !? Am I wrong ?
BUT... your *Master point* is the fact that the Apostles surely celebrated Jesus's birthday the right day for Mary would have told them !!!
What have always puzzled me though is why NO gospel have any stories/account of Jesus's birthday date ! Or crucifixion/Resurrection date for the same matter ! Very... bizarre !!!
Thank you. Pax Christi
Thank you ,
Why does Spain and other EU countries celebrate the three kings on January 6th for giving kids presents? Many in Europe have told me January 6th is Jesus actual birthday.
I keep telling people who argue that December 25th is the pagan holiday and not Jesus birthday. But that’s not the only thing Pagans have managed to confuse. The only times shepherds spend time in the fields is the month after June 21st, and this is when sheep mate and the gestation period is Five months which would also put Jesus in the Manger when the baby lambs were being born mid December until around December 25th. There was an astronomer, and for the life of me I can’t find him now, who showed the planets Jupiter, Venus, and the Star Regulus aligning over Bethlehem around that date December 25th - 27th. . But there is much confusion about that too, and some people I believe are following the alignments for the wrong year, and they estimate it based on that for the wrong period. But I know you are correct. I think it’s more than that as well. Almost like something I can feel is true.
Not to mention that Jesus Christ, Himself, in his ministry of THREE YEARS, with all 12 of the Apostles at His side, would have celebrated His Birthday every year during those 3 years. So the Apostles would have been well informed of Jesus Christ’s Birthday!!!
Humans that try to pick apart days and events that HONOR GOD, need to realize that it is the evil one that is fueling this chaos and doubt. 🙏🏼
And it often works well, which I'm ashamed to have experienced. That little devil is clever with our weaknesses.
How about John the Baptist was born in December and Lord Jesus Christ born on 17th June as described by the astronauts 2 bc all the planets aligned on this date. When was the Roman census taken that caused Mary and Joseph to travel to Bethlehem? In June?
Definitely. Teach about how Michael mass started. Why. Then when did it end and why. Then Novus Ordo. 4/3-6/70 / Ending the Michael Prayer.
Thanks to the team and Marshall for this video. I have been brainwashed with the pagan swap for some time
Joey, NORMAL people type Bible Criticism online and discover that the Holy Bible is complete fiction. How educated are you?
Me too. That's the purpose of all these reasonable sounding criticisms, to tempt us to turn away from God through our pride and selfishness.
@@martinkent333 I suppose then that you're far more educated than every believer throughout history and our contemporaries (since you probably argue that we now have some new knowledge/revelation and modern science/religion though still based on Aristotelian methods). I can't blame you since I believed the same as you for decades and being gifted and over educated made it fairly easy to give into pride. I do pity your destructive desire to convince others of that which leads at the very least to an ungrounded nihilistic perspective eventually(I'll keep my phrasing secular); meanwhile, believing yourself to be virtuously educating. This gives you no positive value nor long-term satisfaction.
@@pacomaciasarrate6809 Having invisible enemies is a mental illness called paranoia.
So why do Orthodox celebrate Christmas on January 7th? Which is what Catholics did before the Gregorian Calendar of the 1500s.
it is december 25 th but it is base on a Julian calendar
What about the 7 feast days like the day of trumpets Passover and the day of 11th bread
There is a manuscript known as Chronography 354, that constitutes the most ancient mention of a pagan god celebrated on the 25th of December. Said calendar also mentions that the celebration of Christ is the same day, therefore acknowledging that the date of the birth of Christ was prior to the pagan celebration. This proves the exact opposite, pagans took the date of the birth of Christ and put a pagan celebration on the same date. This is in an article by John Sorensen, titled Why is Christmas on the 25th of December.
There is also a study by Steven Hijmans called Sol: the sun in the art and religions of Rome. In its 588 page states that there is no evidence that the religious celebration of the sun was prior to the Christmas celebration. The traditional celebration of the sun are registered in the imperial calendars were the 8 or 9 of August, possibly August 28 and December 11.
In 1985, FAO, the Food and Agricultural Organization of the United Nations published a detailed study done by professor H Epstein of the Hebrew University of Jerusalem, one of the major experts of the time on this subject, regarding the Ahuasi sheeps, which are the ones that were and are bred in Israel.
In his study, which doesn't talk about religion or Christmas, explains the practices of the nomads, semi-nomads, bedouins, and fellahin sedentary farmers that tended to the land and sheep.
He says that in Irak, the main season for the Ahuasi sheep to give birth is November, in Lebanon, Arab Republic of Siria, and Israel is December and January. He also states that bedouins and fellahin don't know anything about homes nor tents, they live entirely in open air next to their flock of sheep under their care. They work 365 days a year 13 to 16 hours a day. For cold days they have sheep clothing, sheep blankets and fire.
Joseph Henrich Friedlift, I understood he placed Saint Zachary at the Temple between September 22nd and September 30th.
I’ve heard of another reason why Christ was born on the 25 of December: as a result of Christ’s perfection, He lives to be exactly 33 years old, from conception to death. If Christ was conceived on Good Friday, nine months later would be December, the month of His birth
That timing is ONLY if you think she was 3 months pregnant when she went to her aunt/cousins. If John and Yeshua jumped in the womb upon Mary going to greet John's mother, then Mary was further along than 3 months, more like 4 or 5.
What you wrote seems reasonable, but precludes the possibility of God carrying out anything outside of what your mind deems appropriate. We're all easily fooled by our pride in our reasoning though most of us fail to grasp simple concepts such as gravity, differential calculus, the workings of DNA or exactly what we did that upset another person.
@@pacomaciasarrate6809 doesn't preclude anything God does. Pointing out man's calculation. In Rabbinic Judaism, Yeshua was conceived during Hanukkah and born in the Sept festival. This presentation follows what the Catholics follow.
@@Putt6523 ok, the kicking in the womb by a three month old being not possible for God would be one of man's silly judgements. Your insistence on the validity of the point you repeat reveals pride. I don't much care for what post Christ Judaism has to opine regarding the Messiah, otherwise I might be annoyed as some have Christ in a vat of excrement as punishment in the afterlife. Your insistence on your point without actually addressing mine, may show some hutzpa, but is not conducive to any sincere communication that may be productive for either of us. So you've shown me that I was as ineffective at formulating a convincing objection to your comment as you were with your response in cohesively refuting my point. May God bless you.
@@pacomaciasarrate6809 thank you for your response. God blesses me everyday, or I wouldn't be here, after all HE gives us life. Yes, GOD can have a baby at three months in the womb kick and it be felt. All I was pointing out is that according to Judaism the timing is different, after all Yeshua was Jewish, I would think since he was and followed all Jewish "holidays" they would know better than anyone in the timing of when Yeshua was conceived and born. If you choose to ignore post Christ Judaism, that is your choice, you forget that the Disciples would fall into that category as well, and that the Catholic church is far removed from what Peter was teaching. If you get annoyed then perhaps that is a legalistic thought process instead of insightfulness thru the Holy Spirit. I am hopeful GOD removes the veil from your eyes.
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I still think that Christmas should be in July, based on when the Roman census was taken.
And, as the character Thorfinn on "Ghosts" said, the moving of Christmas to coincide with the various pagan holidays around the winter solstice is a major cultural appropriation.
But, I'm fine with that. Do we want Christmas interfering with the Fourth of July?
What would you rather have on your roof, a sleigh with 8 reindeer or a dune buggy.
The Mormons believe his birth was April 6, but Snow and Christmas trees and Santa are a fantastic idea and Jesus totally approves
Mormons are heretics
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Funny, I read this article and then while looking around Facebook, I ran across a bunch of "experts" and Biblical scholars who are spouting all sorts of data proving Jesus as born in September or the winter or the fall. They also spout the "pagan holiday" theory.
It comes to my mind the Census ordered by the king ,,,that was the reason (I thinks ) that the Vigen Mary and St.Joseph were at Bethlehem ..maybehistorical records of that census can be found to correlatw the dates ..
Shepherds were in the fields watching their flocks at the time of Jesus' birth (Luke 2:7-8). Shepherds were not in the fields during December. According to Celebrations: The Complete Book of American Holidays, Luke's account "suggests that Jesus may have been born in summer or early fall. Since December is cold and rainy in Judea, it is likely the shepherds would have sought shelter for their flocks at night" (Robert Myers, 1972, p. 309).
Similarly, The Interpreter's One-Volume Commentary (1980) says this passage "would argue against the birth's occurring on Dec. 25 since the weather would not have permitted" shepherds watching over their flocks in the fields at night.
Second, Jesus' parents came to Bethlehem to register in a Roman census (Luke 2:1-4). Such censuses were not taken in winter, when temperatures often dropped below freezing and roads were in poor condition. Taking a census under such conditions would have been self-defeating.
Given the desire to bring pagans into Christianity, William Walsh says, "The important fact then which I have asked you to get clearly into your head is that the fixing of the date as December 25th was a compromise with paganism" (The Story of Santa Klaus, 1970, p. 62).
The biblical accounts point to the fall of the year as the most likely time of Jesus' birth, based on the conception and birth of John the Baptist.
Since Elizabeth (John's mother) was in her sixth month of pregnancy when Jesus was conceived (Luke 1:24-36), we can determine the approximate time of year Jesus was born if we know when John was born. John's father, Zacharias, was a priest serving in the Jerusalem temple during the course of Abijah (Luke 1:5). Historical calculations indicate this course of service corresponded to June 13-19 in that year (E.W. Bullinger, The Companion Bible, 1974, Appendix 179, p. 200).
Anyone know where I can find the scholarly research form the guy who calculated the birth of St. John the Baptist?? What’s his name? Fry Lee?
I was once a pagan and now I’m a Christian. The essence of christianity is turning or changing what was once pagan to Christian. No one knows the day Jesus was born and Dec. 25 may have been a pagan holiday, but now it’s converted to a day we celebrate the berth of Jesus.
I don’t see a problem with that.
I had a similar perspective to the one you just expressed, but that was after having been an atheist in part due to all the attacks on everything Christian. Now I see these "rational criticisms/alternate possibilities to the Christian belief system" as attacks to make us doubt and eventually disregard God. Worked on me. So if these "attacks" can be truthfully dismantled, then it is a worthwhile service.
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First thing to do is stop using the modern calendar to figure this out. Should be using the Hebrew calendar which has SHORTER months, then converting it to the modern calendar after getting the HEBREW date. Also, shepherds didn't sleep outside with their flocks in December. Ask anyone living in Southern US if they could sleep outside in December. And Saturnalia was a MONTH long "mass" of debauchery & feasting. October is more accurate IMO, but that's just what I figured out in my research. Important message is to GIVE THANKS for Jesus's birth regardless of when it happened. God bless! ❤️🙏🏻
How do you explain that the SEASONS are aligned with our current, new & improved calendars.
Blessed Mother Mary knew exactly the date of her Son’s birth as all mothers do. She told Luke. Dec 25.
Interesting! i thought we dont know the Jesus birthday. but sounds like close to Dec 25. its new to me
I figured that out from reading my Bible. According to the Day of Attonement and according to the words of angel Gabriel. People read your Bibles.
Is that before or after the calendar was changed.....??
Hey instead of trying to cover up the truth.... Course of Abbyia / Mid June. Tell us about Michael mass. How did it start. Why was is ended. Why is the Michael prayer outlawed today. 9/29. June 13th / Zachariah's Duty weeks.
Your starting pointofr john the baotist is wrong. You didnt talk about the census or the fact that all of the rabiis served at passover
Don't you think the apostles would check with His Blessed Mother? What a lot of noise signifying nothing this argument is.
Do many pass much heed on this guy ....I don't live in the States.
How can we pin down that Jesus was born in 1AD?
Pastor Arnold Murray vs Dr. Taylor. Sorry. Picking Pastor Arnold who has a zero chance of selling out.
Remember the Catholic Church didn’t need to place the birth of Jesus exactly on the day that a pagan feast day took place to achieve what the church wanted. Which was to convert pagans to Catholicism! The bible does not mention the 25th of Dec as the birth date of Jesus, nobody knows when Jesus was born. Your guessing otherwise!
You and your One people isn’t I and thy One man One GOD made Jesus Christ I Am
Speaking of GOD has any One come forward with the One 2 billion dollar ticket I have not seen
Your scholarship is bad with regard to the date of the winter solstice at the time of the early Church fathers. December 25th was the date of the solstice on the Julian calendar back then. It did not become the 22nd until the creation of the Gregorian calendar.
The calculation from Jehoiarib is wrong too. According to the Talmud (Ta'anit 4:5) the priest that was serving under that course is derided for having handed his house over to the Romans. But it was only assumed that he did this when the Temple was destroyed on 9 Av. Josephus however tells us there were no priests in the Temple on 9 AV. They had all deserted their posts apparently after the Romans breeched the city walls 3 weeks earlier on 17 Tammuz. This is the day tradition and Josephus both tell us that Temple sacrifice ended. But Josephus adds more detail. He says it is not because they had run out of things to sacrifice. It is because there were no more priests to offer sacrifice.
In other words the last day for the House of Jehoiarib was July 14 (17 Tammuz), 70 AD. And that requires another 3 weeks for Zechariah to dilly dally before getting around to making John to work with your December 25th Nativity scenario. But even if you go with what your scholar is saying it certainly is not proven as you have declared. There is in fact a much better argument given in THE GOSPEL OF CREATION (not to be confused with the recent encyclical) where the author makes a case for Easter and Christmas occurring on the same day but separated by 40 years. This argument shows that by that accounting John the Baptist would have been conceived on January 5 (10 Tevet), 9 BC (which fits perfectly (with no need of fudge factors) for Jehoiarib serving on 17 Tammuz, 70 AD. It places John's birth on the 1st day of the Feast of Booths and his circumcision on Shmini Atzeret (the day that commemorates the entire nation of Israel being circumcised after they left the wilderness and enterered the Holy Land).
Do some homework, see for yourself. It places Jesus's birth on April 5 (24 Nisan), 8 BC which places His entry into our fallen world 3 days after the last day of Passover, on roughly the same day the Red Sea parted, just as His triumphant entry into the Holy City on the same day as the Israelites triumphantly entered the Holy Land with the parting of the Jordan River. It also places the Presentation 40 days after His birth on the day of Pentecost and on the same day as the Ascension which occurs 40 days after the Resurraction. and iof that is not enough it also places Jesus in the Temple (3 days after Passover, according to Luke) on His 13th Birthday (His Bar Mitzvah birthday) the day a Jewish male has finally come of age and is allowed to publically comment on the Torah.
Consulting my calendar for that time period I see there is only 2 years that matches what you are saying. So I am guessing you are saying that Jesus was either born on December 25, 5 BC or December 25, 2 AD. But since 2 AD seems a bit too late to twist the data to allow Herod to be alive for it that leaves 5 BC as the only possibility. So here is what is wrong with that idea. Of the 7 crucial dates in the lives of Jesus and John in 6-4 BC only 3 can be construed as having an association with an observance on the Hebrew calendar. And that is roughly what you would see by chance.
John the Baptist's conception could be connected to Yom Kippur or the 1st day of Sukkot but that is as good as it gets for John. His subsequent birth and circumcision on June 24, and July 3 of 5 BC would be on 19 and 26 Sivan that year and although both are sabbaths, neither is close to a Holiday, Fast or Special Sabbath.
As to Jesus, His supposed Incarnation on March 25, 5 BC would have occurred on 17 Adar II and this is not at all what you would expect of one of the 3 greatest events in the history of the created world. The Passover illuminates Good Friday. Should we not expect the same of the Incarnation? His birth and circumcision being on the 2nd and last day of Chanukah that year show some of logic. But why the 2nd day and not the 1st for Christmas. That sounds more like a miss than a hit. And Jesus Himself seems to agree saying that His Resurrection would not be associated with any sign other than the sign of Jonah even though it occurred on the 3rd day of Passover.
Now Christ's circumcision being on the last day of the holiday could be a significant match since the last day is treated much like the first. But again, why should it be the circumcision that gets the attention and not the far more important date, Jesus's birth? It would have been less problematic if it had no holiday connection than to have one that outshines the Nativity. It makes no sense. Moving on then to the last date to consider, the Presentation, occuring 40 days after Jesus birth (which is being claimed to be 26 Kislev) places it on February 3 (7 Shevat) and once again there is nothing close here to an observance of any sort.
The bottom line is this. God gave us the observances on the Hebrew calendar so that we could see how each is fulfilled in the life of Christ. And we have every reason to expect that any true discernment of the Nativity will yield connections to those observances. Your solution does not do that. It cannot, therefore, be correct.
Excellent research. Thank you for sharing. I come up with late September. I agree that it's not December 25. December 25 is Nimrod's birthday. The tree is definitely pagan. And santa represents satan. May the truth free us all. Jesus Christ is King. God Bless.
BOOM - right to the point. Anyone who would argue against these facts is completely ignorant and arrogant.
This is not scriptural. He is wrong. The Bible tells us Christ preached 3.5 years, and He was crucified on Passover. Go 6 months back and you will come to the time of the Feast of Tabernacle. John 1:14 states “and He Tabernacled with us”. The God of the Bible will not just pick any day for His Son’s birth like the majority of the Church thinks, He would have and did choose one of his Holy days. Just like Christ died on the Passover he would’ve been born on one of God’s holy days. And December does not have one of God’s Holy Days.
Sun dies on the 21st each year. Rises 3 days later. 12/25. Manly P Hall. Mysteries. To end the debate, look and see how many other Saviors were said to be born on the 25th.
The idea that "other saviors were born December 25" is a 19th Century assertion with zero historical basis. The earliest record of any attempt to place any pagan god's birth on December 25 comes from a Christian calendar in 345 A.D., for which there is no corresponding pagan record. So, attributing December 25 to a pagan deity came well after the establishment of Christianity, not before.
@@chriskoch1241 It was celebrated in the Mysteries, for a very long time. Like Communion started long before Christ.
@@chriskoch1241 Zeitgeist. The Sun's shortest day is 12/21. Stays flat for 3 days. Days get shorter starting 12/25.
@@RstesotTv Length of days had nothing to do with Christmas, although it was important in the pagan scheme of things, because of agriculture. Pagans did their thing fir pagan reasons. Its just mind-boggling that the modern mind is not sufficiently broad to accept that Christians did Christian things for Christian reasons - even to the point of prefering death to doing non-Christian things.
As for the idea that there were pagan concepts of communion, that's at least partially true. Tjis is why Christians were not allowed to eat the free meat from pagan temples. The idea of communion, while common as a general concept across a number of religions, differs substantially in the Christian tradition. As a measure of that difference, note that although Christianity came from Judaism, the Christian understanding of communion was - and is - held as the depth of blasphemy. The earliest Christians were executed for it.
@@chriskoch1241 Manly P Hall. The positions of the Sun, Moon and Planets is the foundation of everything. Plus it's true. It's the shortest day. The 21st. 3 days later the days are longer. Pagan in the way they had big ceremonies on the Equinoxes and Solstices. I'm sure it's an accident that picked 12/25,. Come on. Mystery Babylon lives.
Do you know Rabbi Jonathan Cahn?
Yes! Look at Rabbi Jonathan Cahn for his talk on when Jesus was born.
Sorry dr Taylor it is not written in the bible the specific date Jesus was born in December it’s just speculation just read the bible we don’t know the things I know Jesus is in heaven as the king and the world know to recognise this !!
Unfortunately when you speak of the weather and the shepherds and sleeping outside in a Manger, 12/25 DOESN'T work. Dr Michael Heiser has a great astronomy lesson on this, following the Magi. September is most likely the month. I've also seen the origins of the holiday and it is in FACT not about Christ. Look it up. We can celebrate the Lord any day just please don't worship the tree or the lights or the gifts....it may not be a Pagan holiday but it originally has nothing to do with the birth of our Savior.
I think more time should be placed on the "Word became Flesh and dwelt amoung us", and the Theology of Mary THEOTOKOS. Those are Credal, from the Four Great Councils, things you got to believe stuff.
its true ....Jesus was born in September,during the feast of trumpets ,that s why the Inns were all full in Bethelehem, the King will be introduced by Trumpets....Constantine change the day of rest from Saturday to Sunday, so what does that tell you.....the people who crucified my Lord were Romans,..
the people who have turned world religion upside down are Romans ....
the Roman Catholic Church is WRONG
Jesus Christ himself doesn't want you to celebrate his Birth , he wants you to celebrate his Death, and repent for your sins and believe in his Holy name....
i am a Messianic Jew....My Lord Was Jewish,..
and guess what? he still is....he doesn't wear Rosary Beads and he Still acknowledge s "Gods appointed Times" still stand!!!! thats has nothing to do with Catholic American holidays!!!! Peaganism!!!
Sorry. Should be "villains in the Bible"😅