Should You Study Photography at College/University? An Honest Discussion

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  • @bendroege
    @bendroege  4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    As mentioned here are the timestamps:
    Intro: 0:00
    My background: 0:30
    Time to develop: 1:22
    Making Connections: 2:10
    What do you learn?: 2:51
    Teaching staff: 5:45
    WIP critiques sessions: 6:37
    What photographer do you want to be?: 7:28
    Job opportunities: 8:30
    Financial side of things: 9:10
    Access to resources: 9:29
    Pros & Cons Summary: 10:05
    Outro: 10:38

  • @markkut
    @markkut 4 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    TH-cam is a very powerful platform. It's so crazy that a couple quick searches can teach us really powerful things! Thanks for sharing

    • @bendroege
      @bendroege  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Exactly right man! It’s definitely got its flaws no doubt, but I think it’s the future of learning and education. Appreciate the comment and the view man. Cheers!

  • @pattysfilms
    @pattysfilms 4 ปีที่แล้ว +39

    I'm a self-taught photographer. I learned everything from a bunch TH-cam tips and tutorials. I did take one class at my university just out of curiosity but everything that was taught in that class I already learned from watching a bunch of TH-cam videos

    • @bendroege
      @bendroege  4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Exactly right Patty! Couldn't agree more, I think people underestimate just how much stuff can be learned online. Thanks so much for the comment man, it's super appreciated. Cheers!

    • @jaughnekow
      @jaughnekow 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Most of us would go for the degree but most of the learning will be on TH-cam

  • @PaulFaracePhotography
    @PaulFaracePhotography 4 ปีที่แล้ว +30

    I'm a firm believer that you can learn it for free these days. It's all about passion. If you have passion, you will learn and push forward. That said the network and connections and friendships you make are priceless. I went to school for recording music, huge waste of money besides the fact that I spent all my time making amazing friends with the teachers and got access to stuff a lot of others did not. Still friends with a lot of them to this day (18 years later haha!). Cool to her how photography school is for you. You want to make money in photography you may end up doing weddings lol. Hard to beat 2-5K for a days shooting. I do them quite a bit as well as business contracts, product shoots...you name it. I also make my own schedule and will take that any day. The corporate world will destroy your soul lol, been there... Great vid Ben, enjoyed it!

    • @bendroege
      @bendroege  4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      100% Paul couldn't agree more. I think there are advantages in both directions, but it really is important as an individual to put in as much effort as possible. I think there is a misconception with college (should've mentioned this more) that getting a degree will somehow improve your status as a photographer which is completely untrue as we know. Instead, the actual ideas and ones portfolio are far more important and whatever way one gets to that point is often irrelevant. That's so cool you studied music, sorry to hear you didn't think it was worth it. Hahah yes, weddings are great money, I've done around 4-5 now and although the money is good and the overall job isn't too difficult they're definitely something I want to avoid if possible...don't think they're for me. In saying that, commercial photography is still a lot of fun and it's so cool you can make that your job. Thanks so much for watching Paul and for your awesome comment. Cheers!

    • @PaulFaracePhotography
      @PaulFaracePhotography 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@bendroege don't get me wrong I loved it, but it wasn't worth 50k! I'd rather put that into a house and learn on my own if I had it to do all over again. Weddings are definitely not fun lol, but I'm raising fam of 4 so the bills have to be paid somehow!

  • @brendagaleano5016
    @brendagaleano5016 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thank you,I’m 56 and will love to Lear photography,and going back to school at my age just puts me back with time …so if I can learn something with videos that will be awesome,I’m in NYC and working with a real este taking photos of properties is a go go win thank you

    • @bendroege
      @bendroege  ปีที่แล้ว

      That’s awesome! Best of luck to you :)

  • @EQencrypted
    @EQencrypted 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Some really thought provoking topics, I feel as if uni forces you to produce things you’re not fond of sometimes which stretches your ability to adapt and acquire new techniques and skills from self learning as well as in class learning. Good balanced discussion, appreciate the non bias opinions!

    • @bendroege
      @bendroege  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Arden Jameson Thanks Arden! Great point man, even if it’s not want we want to do it’s still important to try and find something good out of the experience otherwise it truely is a time wasted. Glad you enjoyed bro!

  • @kodithebear
    @kodithebear 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    A fine arts or photography degree is more of a study of oneself and artistic process. Valuable if you embrace it and see how this translates into individual goals as an artist or working photographer.

    • @bendroege
      @bendroege  2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Well said Paul, couldn’t agree more! I think sometimes people have the wrong expectations of what studying photography is like which is partly due to the marketing of the schools, but in the end it’s a real personal development

  • @matthewjamespearce231
    @matthewjamespearce231 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This really resonated with me!
    I graduated in 2019 (UK) and I think your discussion gives a very clear insight to those looking to study photography further - I wish I had this before I started my studies!
    It's so valuable for self-discovery/experimenting with your practice, but the end result is a bit of a question mark. To my knowledge, very few of my peers stayed in photography after education. I think the employment pathways are few and far between; often very competitive too.
    I now work in a commercial context as I quickly found out there's bills to pay... ha! I still find everything I learnt leaking into my day-to-day jobs. Perhaps, this was even more useful than the practical skills (as they're easily picked up over time) because your perspective on the world and approach to projects is something that can be totally unique.

    • @bendroege
      @bendroege  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      So glad it resonated Matthew! Also really appreciate the lengthy comment. Couldn’t agree more man once you get out of the uni life and you have to face the real world, the idea of just freelancing almost becomes a nightmare. I know some people thrive off that, but personally I much prefer some stability.
      Even then however, no matter what journey you’re on post uni, all those experiences help shape us into the people we are today and the way we think. I find I have more of an appreciation for the way I look at the world nowadays due to the research done during this time as cliche as that sounds. Cheers!

  • @trentszmolnik
    @trentszmolnik 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    So good to hear thoughts from someone who’s actually studied it. Uni’s in general I feel fall behind on the ‘hands on’ side of the degree. I get that the theory is still important but only to a point, as you mentioned. Uni’s need to catch up and include subjects that will help with the actual real life work that graduates end up doing. You could do a whole degree and still come out not knowing how to market or run your business. Nice video as always!

    • @bendroege
      @bendroege  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks Trent! Exactly man, there's definitely some core problems which need to be addressed if the course wants to survive. I guess the major thing keeping it afloat is the actual qualification - the learning side can be easily done elsewhere. There definitely needs to be a shift especially in how to motivate students which definitely starts with hiring the right teachers for the job. Appreciate the comment my man, enjoy the rest of your weekend!

  • @M__ca-b1c
    @M__ca-b1c ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Do you have any recommendation for where to learn portrait photography and commercial photography ?

  • @ericflynn4524
    @ericflynn4524 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    It’s interesting hearing a perspective outside of the American college system, but I think a lot of the advice is still applicable. The biggest benefits are definitely the time to focus on the craft and meeting folks/networking, as well as building a portfolio/body of work. (I will also say that I’m glad I didn’t study photography for my bachelors, and it’s so much more fun at a graduate level because it’s even more focused and at least at my school we have a much closer relationship with our professors, who treat us more like colleagues and less like students)

    • @bendroege
      @bendroege  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hey, thanks for the comment Eric! It's definitely different from the system in the US, I think I actually prefer the American way from what I've observed, seems more logical. Your spot on there, I think the connecting side is probably the biggest plus, as it is a lot more difficult to do elsewhere. That's great to hear you have that kind of relationship with your teachers, sounds like a really great school. I'm thinking about doing another year in post-graduate so fingers crossed my experience might be closer to yours in the year to come. Once again Eric, thanks so much for the comment man, it really means a lot. Cheers!

    • @ericflynn4524
      @ericflynn4524 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@bendroege I will also add in that my program offers a really robust financial aid program for its students, which covers our tuition and offers a decent stipend, so it's not quite as much of a financial sinkhole and that was a massive factor when I was considering going back to school!

  • @paulcookphotography
    @paulcookphotography 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great thoughts as always Ben! I went to music performance school in California but I think it is relatable to photography at university. While it was a great experience to immerse myself in music all day long, it was a bit of a frustrating experience as well. It always seemed a bit subjective to me. I could play a piece better than I ever had, and my final grade was up to a professor's taste in music or current mood. And I always felt like the technology lagged behind the real world by at least a few years. Again, I didnt go to school for photography but I think a lot of your points echoes my music school experience. I read Paul Farace's comments below and those seem like very solid, real world thoughts. As always, a fantastic video and great thoughts! Congratulations on your upcoming bachelor's degree, a big accomplishment for sure!!! Have a great week and stay safe!

    • @bendroege
      @bendroege  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks Paul! That's so interesting how you and Paul Farace both went to study music, what a coincidence. You're spot on there, it's funny how although the degrees are different the pros/cons are very similar. I think that's something I've had to overcome personally is the whole grading part, it use to bother me when I would put all this effort into a project only for it to be seen differently by the teacher and not for what it was meant to be. Thankfully I've learned that the grade has now become the least of my concerns (provided I'm passing) and I'm just focussed on making the best possible work. So glad you enjoyed it, and thanks so much for the kind words as always. Cheers Paul, enjoy the rest of your weekend!

  • @justinkerr4524
    @justinkerr4524 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Awesome man! Great tips for someone whose 50/50 at the moment, I'm sure it'd help consolidate their choice!!

    • @bendroege
      @bendroege  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks Justin! I hope so man, being on the fence is a tough place to be. Appreciate the comments as always 💛

  • @teeranto5468
    @teeranto5468 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Very well articulated man, hope this gets some people thinking.

    • @bendroege
      @bendroege  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks Anth! I hope so man, it's a hard decision and definitely can be a stressful time

  • @philliphickox4023
    @philliphickox4023 ปีที่แล้ว

    I believe ideally yes it is a good idea to study at university/college, for one reason, you don't know what you don't know or what you need to know. For example during a course I had to learn how to type, and typing has been fantastic as I don't need to look at the keyboard. So doing a course can teach you something useful. However it is not always possible. Doing an assignment that doesn't to relate at the moment, it may come in useful at sometime in the future.

  • @jackkrzysik2301
    @jackkrzysik2301 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Super interesting to hear especially as I am at that point where I need to start thinking about this stuff. Appreciate it great breakdown Ben.

    • @bendroege
      @bendroege  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Haha thanks Jack! Funny thing is, I kinda had you plus a few others in mind when making this video. I was thinking about what would they (you) want to know and what would be the best advice to give. Appreciate the comment and support as always bro. Cheers!

    • @jackkrzysik2301
      @jackkrzysik2301 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@bendroege Yeah man hit some points I had not even considered so thank you

    • @bendroege
      @bendroege  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Good to hear!

  • @howardgrillphotography2280
    @howardgrillphotography2280 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I’m far away from college but nonetheless I found this really interesting to hear your thoughts about photography education.

    • @bendroege
      @bendroege  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Haha thanks so much Howard! I feel there are a lot of mixed opinions so thought it would be good to at least share my own experience and thoughts. Hope you’re well and thanks for watching Howard :)

    • @howardgrillphotography2280
      @howardgrillphotography2280 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@bendroege I sometimes do wonder what I would study if I had the chance to do it all over in today’s world!

    • @bendroege
      @bendroege  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@howardgrillphotography2280 It's never too late!

    • @howardgrillphotography2280
      @howardgrillphotography2280 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@bendroege true. Though now I get to see other choices come to fruition through my kids!!!

    • @bendroege
      @bendroege  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@howardgrillphotography2280 Ahhh of course, that's much rewarding

  • @jaughnekow
    @jaughnekow 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks for your information. It's much appreciated 😊👍🏾

    • @bendroege
      @bendroege  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      No worries! Glad it was helpful :)

    • @jaughnekow
      @jaughnekow 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@bendroege is it ok if I ask you more questions on IG, please?

    • @bendroege
      @bendroege  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@jaughnekow yup no worries! @bendroege_

  • @jamest-q8d
    @jamest-q8d 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Good takes man, definitely need to have a think about it.

    • @bendroege
      @bendroege  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      James Tortorella Thanks James! For sure bro

  • @Leonardovins
    @Leonardovins 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thank you for sharing this. I was wonder how it is to go to photography school, from a fashion design graduate's perspective I kinda know the answer but still wonder all the time. I think the most valuable thing you can get out of school is the way of thinking, like the process of developing an idea to a meaningful project (it's not like a checklist things to do to produce a project, but the thought process and how you train your brain to critique yourself and be creative to every topic, even though sometimes you dont like that topic but you still can work on it). It's good to have teachers guide you when you don't know what you should do. But you can still learn this process without go to school, it's just harder and you have to find a really good mentor. But I still have 1 more question about photography school, what is photo essay and is it different to photo project?

    • @bendroege
      @bendroege  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hey thanks so much Louki! Honestly, I think you'll find it no problem at all. You will have had experience in the university system and might be able to apply for some credits to lessen the workload which could be super beneficial. You'll also have a tonne of expertise on the fashion end if that's the photography you want to do, so I have no doubt you'll be able to smoothly transition. You raised some very great points in your comment there, I fully agree with all of them. So to compare a photo essay and project...they're pretty much the same thing...however I would say that the essay version is a bit more journalistic. There might be a news story element/prompt and the photos are a response to it. Whereas a project is a bit more broad and can cover anything really which could in fact be a photo essay. Gordon Parks had some amazing photo essays, would highly recommend looking into him if you aren't familiar. Thank you so much for the comment, it's super appreciated reading these thoughtful words. Cheers!

  • @thebathuman
    @thebathuman 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Howdy Ben! As a 41 year old about to start a cert IV at RMIT in Melbourne I found this video fantastic. Came looking for exactly this sort of video and didn't have high hopes but to find one . . . and for it to be localised to Melbourne is amazing! Thanks!
    How are you finding the industry since this? I'm coming to photography really late in life so I thought studying would be a great way to accelerate my learning a bit . . . though my main goal is to move into cinematography. Do you find the study helped you in the long run?
    Once again, thanks for the practical and frank video!

  • @tomparrott1257
    @tomparrott1257 ปีที่แล้ว

    I feel I should go but a lot to have a new chapter to life as I’m bored of life currently but I love photography so much and I such a fear of new change and uni seems so daunting but I feel I need to do it

  • @studionelle3340
    @studionelle3340 ปีที่แล้ว

    Re post production what specifically are you referring to as old fashioned? I wish with each criticism you were more clear on the issue you were referring to re course content.

  • @physicblanco643
    @physicblanco643 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I’m a senior in high school want to become a photographer love talking photos etc. and idk my mom wants me to go to some certain type of school because she believe if I don’t have some certain education on photography that no job won’t take it. Thanks tho

    • @bendroege
      @bendroege  3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Its a tough one. I went to a really good photo school in Melbourne, but I dont think the education quality really differs too much. At the end of the day just make sure you give it everything and more. Honestly I've found recently that the education qualification doesn't actually get you too much in the workforce, it's a combination of who you know + what work you've done in the past :)

  • @jorgemoiina
    @jorgemoiina 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    this is so good man, loved the vid !

    • @bendroege
      @bendroege  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks so much Jorge!

  • @GracieBelleCollins
    @GracieBelleCollins 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Awesome video, quality, and message. I'm an undergrad wondering if I should go to school for photography or just business and marketing since I already have my own business.

    • @bendroege
      @bendroege  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you Grace! It’s definitely a tough choice. I guess just briefly, if you want to establish yourself as an “artist” then studying photography might be good. Otherwise if you already have your own business it might be more advantageous to continue with that by studying it. At least with this path you can still have photography on the side. I guess the main question I would ask is: what kind of photography are you into? If it’s anything commercial related like weddings or portraits then definitely pick business. Hope that helps!

    • @GracieBelleCollins
      @GracieBelleCollins 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@bendroege I am into commercial photography for modeling agencies and just weddings, portraits in general. Thank you for the info.

  • @andrewjclarke
    @andrewjclarke 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Super insightful/balanced video, really enjoyed watching this. I didn't study photography at uni and it definitely took me longer to connect with peers in the industry because of it. There's that sense of camaraderie that you get going through uni which no TH-cam tutorial can make up for. I'm interested in how much of uni these days focuses on film? Is there a balance between film and digital at uni?

    • @bendroege
      @bendroege  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks so much Andrew! So glad you enjoyed. That's a very good point you make about the camaraderie, I actually didn't really consider that, but very very true. Ah great question man, once again I should've included this as a point hahah (maybe next year's video). It's very dependent on the school, but in my case there is not one class on film, and we use digital cameras for the workshops. There's no darkroom classes (even though we have a darkroom) which is such a shame. However, it is somewhat of a grey area. The curriculum doesn't actually specifically say we have to use a digital or film camera, it's really up to the individual when it comes to major work. The teacher's also don't really tell us what they think we should use, probably to keep us open minded. I guess their reasoning is that it's just a tool, and the photo's meaning should come first (bit of a cop out). However there are resources like scanners and film cameras available to hire but no classes on them at all. In saying that, another uni outside of the city uses film exclusively and it's actually part of their curriculum. So it really depends where you go to study. Thanks for the comment man, I hope I made sense haha. Cheers!

    • @andrewjclarke
      @andrewjclarke 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@bendroege Yeah okay - I think for a fine art course it makes sense not to dictate what medium you use for your art. But equally, if it was me, I'd like to walk out of a multi-year photography degree feeling like I'm ready to do professional standard work on both film and digital. You want to work professionally in photography after you graduate?
      Also your medium format film portraits are great... makes me want to get back into it (I suuuuuuuck at film🙃).

    • @bendroege
      @bendroege  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@andrewjclarke 100% man, it should be an obligation for the uni to teach us all mediums that way our own decision can be properly informed. Especially when they do have the resources available it doesn’t make sense why they wouldn’t fully utilise everything. Ahh thanks so much Andrew! Man it just takes a bit of practice and getting familiar with the process. Definitely give it another go man, I’m sure you’ll kill it in no time :)

  • @paolagaspar7266
    @paolagaspar7266 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The comments got me overwhelming bc I’m the only one who is studying photography in my photography class. Most of my classmates are either studying graphic design or photography class is one of their requirement for their major. I felt like I didn’t took the right career.

    • @bendroege
      @bendroege  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      That's okay to feel like that, but don't feel the need to compare what you want to do to others. If photography is really what you want to do then trust that and don't worry about everyone else especially if they don't care. Having faith in yourself is one of the most important things. Worst case, maybe transfer to another school perhaps

  • @hexsk8r297
    @hexsk8r297 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What university you went in Melbourne and what universities you recommend cause I’ve planned on studying fashion photography at Australia

    • @bendroege
      @bendroege  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hey! I went to RMIT, it's considered one of the best in AUS and lot's of people from overseas travel to study there. I definitely expected it to be better considering it's reputation, but overall it wasn't too bad. Lot's of fashion photographers have studied there so it's a great environment. There's also PSC in Melbourne which has the same course but it's more of a school rather than a Uni. There's also Deakin which is meant to be pretty good also but its far away which isn't ideal

    • @hexsk8r297
      @hexsk8r297 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@bendroege thanks man appreciate it a lot definitely checking it out hopefully studying there after my finals this year. Btw loved your work I saw and the video ❤️

    • @bendroege
      @bendroege  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@hexsk8r297 No worries, all the best with it! Let me know if you need help with anything else down the line. Cheers!

    • @hexsk8r297
      @hexsk8r297 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@bendroege thanks mate good luck to you too 🙏

  • @andrewfindlayphoto
    @andrewfindlayphoto 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    It was the same 30 years ago. Nothings changed! University is still churning out ill equipped students into the world of photography. If you have a degree in something you should be able to make a basic living from it. If you can't make a living in it, then teach it! My uni was full of arrogant bull shit ers who knew nothing of the industry they taught. My advice is to learn the technical and business side of it. Then go to uni and use the time and equipment to refine and produce a good portfolio. Do Marketing qualification before photography.
    Great video Ben 🙂

    • @bendroege
      @bendroege  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks Andrew! Exactly right, it's such a shame to think that all the money that is invested doesn't amount to much. I think people get the wrong idea, that by getting a piece of paper at graduation means you're a certified famous photographer, when it's very far from that. I would 100% agree that something like marketing or even communications would be a better option for a lot of people. Since making this video, I've realised that uni has two goals really, how to be an artist (that doesn't make money) or how to be an academic and that's it. I think that schools need to make that more clear which will change people's expectations and attitudes. Thanks so much for the comment, it's super appreciated Andrew. Cheers!

  • @nickswisher6759
    @nickswisher6759 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Damn bro, your channels growing quick! People tell me I should minor in photography, but I know I’ll hate having to do assignments for my photography. How much freedom is there in terms of subject matter? For example, can a landscape photographer gain something out of doing photography at university?

    • @bendroege
      @bendroege  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Haha thanks bro! Been a little slow recently, but got lots of videos planned for the Australian summer. Hmm, it's always such a tough question, but I'll do my best. I have no doubt that you'll enjoy University man, just a matter of what you want to get out of it. So there isn't too much freedom in terms of actual subjects, but you can really push the boundaries of what you want to explore. For example, in a fashion or documentary class, you could still do landscape photography or whatever else you're interested in with justification. Same with the electives to, they might have a particular focus, but you can easily shift it more into your direction (to an extent).
      For the landscape specific class, they push you in the direction of contemporary landscape, which from I've seen is what you're doing currently. Especially because you are shooting 4x5, people are gonna be frothing that so that's a major advantage to begin with. I can see you already have a more meaningful approach to photography compared to just shooting for social media reasons, so I really think you'll thrive in an environment like this. Gonna continue the rest in another comment hahah...

    • @bendroege
      @bendroege  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ...It also does depend where you study. In the US, as I'm sure you know already, there are certain colleges that have famous photographers teaching and then you might go to whatever photographer you like to learn off. For example, Crewdson teaches at Yale, so if you want to do cinema stills you would go to Yale. So if you can find a landscape-centric photographer who teaches then go with that option. They'll be much more beneficial to you, and will give you a lot more guidance. I hope that helps man, it's a bit hard because I'm not too familiar with the US system, but all in all, I think you'll really enjoy it. Then again though, college prices are so fucked haha whereas in Australia it's very cheap, so that is obviously a major downside. You may also be able to apply for credits, because i believe you've studied at college before right? If so, then you'll pay less and might be able to drop some electives

    • @nickswisher6759
      @nickswisher6759 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@bendroege Thanks for all that info man! Kinda gets my mind going to research and see who all is teaching in the U.S, landscape photography wise. I think that if I were to study photography as my main goal I would probably seek out that stuff you talked about, but since I’m going to an in state school now for business, I have a feeling it probably wouldn’t be worth it to study photography. It does make me wonder about the possibilities though. You’ve given me a lot more to think about than the vague stuff I’ve read online about studying photography. Landscape photography is in kinda a weird place. When you hear about the big name people, they’re people who are outdated or who you never hear from (or maybe you are traveling and come across some photographers gallery in a national park). It seems like the modern landscape photography are in smaller online communities like TH-cam. Maybe back in the day photographers were more of household names, whereas today it is more of a personal endeavor, due to everybody being able to call themselves photographers. Keep making videos like this, it would be cool to hear more about your personal journey through photography!

    • @bendroege
      @bendroege  4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@nickswisher6759 No worries man, glad it was somewhat helpful! I think it could be worth-while even just to look into it. Everyone is going to have such a different opinion which makes it hard because most people have different goals. I think college teaches you two things, how to be an "artist" and an academic. And most people think that's why it's no good. All about perspective really. 100% man it seems mainstream photography is purely just Instagram photographers which is a bit of a shame. No hate on them, but it's shifting the discourse in a way that prioritizes engagement over substance. But what I've learnt, is as soon as you start studying it, there's a whole world of photographers in the contemporary scene that get minimal coverage online, but they're still super respected. If you want to talk about it in more detail man, would be happy to do a facetime call or whatever works and I can speak about it a bit better. Always a bit of a gamble making these kinds of videos haha, not sure how they go down, but so glad it created a discussion. Appreciate the support bro, cheers!

    • @nickswisher6759
      @nickswisher6759 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@bendroege I get what you mean about the contemporary, and that’s what I was trying to say actually! The photographers in the online community don’t get giant coverage and popularity, people like Ben Horne and others, but are clearly some of the best landscape photographers. Whereas in photography class, we’d see these grand documentaries about the historic photographers of the 20th century. I guess maybe I have a vague understanding of the art world, but it certainly is an interesting dynamic now, versus how I imagine it would be 40 years ago. A FaceTime would be cool man, maybe sometime this week while I’m in Zion. I don’t think I’ve talked to another photographer “in person” for years lol!

  • @desamdelhi1335
    @desamdelhi1335 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi, can you please tell me the best universities to purse Masters in photography in UK

    • @bendroege
      @bendroege  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Ahh I wish I knew! I’m trying to find those answers myself

  • @johnrainsman6650
    @johnrainsman6650 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Is it true photography students gotta take pictures of bare models? That's gotta be weird, since you got live n@ked people on the photos you now own.

    • @bendroege
      @bendroege  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hahah I can confirm that it's definitely not true...

    • @johnrainsman6650
      @johnrainsman6650 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Lucky photographers. I remember when we drew n@ked models in an illustrating course. One of them was a woman I knew in class a year prior. When she came out of the closet in her towel, she saw me, smiled, and gave me a thumbs-up. Then she headed to the light and took her towel off, posing to face me. I had to keep a textbook on my lap because...she looked bea- *_utiful,_* if you get what I'm saying. I'm nervous about the next time I see her. She'll probably bring it up and ask if it was awkward for me (sounds like her; she's sassy and loves to embarrass people).

    • @bendroege
      @bendroege  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@johnrainsman6650 Hahah that sounds like quite an experience!

    • @johnrainsman6650
      @johnrainsman6650 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@bendroege So if she does bring it up, what do I say? I'd be awkward.

  • @michaelhooper571
    @michaelhooper571 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    • @bendroege
      @bendroege  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Michael Hooper Thanks Mike! Appreciate the comments as always man 💛