I've been in the motor trade nearly 35 years and nearly every newer car is an absolute pain in the arse to work on , even a basic service has the potential for disaster if you don't what your doing, everything is virtually impossible to get to unless you have at least four joints in your forearm, not to mention the escalating costs as you go from one seized this that and another, the problem is that modern cars are not built to last, i'm seriously considering stacking shelves at tesco!
PROBALLY why classics making come back 40 + yrs old cortinas , vauxhaull vivas morris marinas , 1000s . TAX/ MOT except for time being . EURO 6 right ball ache costly trouble some .
I've been in engineering for years ! If we come across a situation similar to yours with the sensors ,, is disconnect sensors , slice pipework so each sensor has slice of pipework attached , take them to bench , put them in vice , and grind away , or just cut a slot in nut and bury em in release fluid !! 100 % success rate since doing it this way! Hope this helps someone!!!😮😮
Yet again reminded why i love my 2004 Lexus GX470.......with 412k on the clock and nothing but consumables, 1 set UJs, one set front CV shafts......and a rear wiper motor...
Switched from diesel to petrol and not looked back. I now have a £5k budget when buying a car, as soon as it gets uneconomical to repair it' will be sold off. With cost of repairs nowadays makes more sense
Same ish here. 12plate SkodaSuperb, no problem for the 10years I’ve had it. Now, estimate 2-3k for injectors, front spring, emission control unit, door regulator. Bought new Kia Sportage, 7 year warranty and at my age (71) willing to pay for stress free motoring. Might not even see end of warranty.😋
I'd like to add a shout out for my ultra reliable (touch wood) Honda Civic 2.2 diesel '12 plate currently sitting on 176k miles. Made in the UK, and has caused me zero grief in the 7 years I've had it. And a brief honourable mention to the Toyota Corolla (2005) that I had for several years before that! Bloody good car 😊
Citroen xsara picasso 1.6 hdi. I bought it new, now 18 years old with 150,000 miles. Still on original clutch, exhaust, alternator, etc. only new stuff has been tyres and battery. The sills need some attention for mots but it has done me proud on costs. I'm dreading getting a new car.
When I was young, cars were scrapped for one reason. Rust! All other problems were easily and cheaply fixed. Now cars don’t rust so the manufacturers had to find another way to get people to scrap their car. Put the price of spares sky high
Citroen xsara picasso 1.6 hdi. I bought it new, now 18 years old with 150,000 miles. Still on original clutch, exhaust, alternator, etc. only new stuff has been tyres and battery. The sills need some attention for mots but it has done me proud on costs. I'm dreading getting a new car.
2001-2007 pd's you mean. They have egr but easily removed. They have sachs dmf if 6speed and you want 55+mpg 5speeds may not have dmf? but generally take alot of abuse. No adblue or dpfs to worry about, you can run them on anything (tried and tested) im on my 3rd pd130 currently running 312bhp 545nm 😊 i love the torque and i love the smoke. F greta and f khan and the ulez ❤😂
@@khalidacosta7133 thats before pd. alh engine code which have mechanical fuel pump in the likes of a mk3 golf. Pd's have chain driven cog oil pumps in sump. Never had issue there 👍
@@khalidacosta7133 that was the famous 2.0 tdi, with the cracking cilinderhead, turbofailure, softwarefailure (no start at warm engine) and lots of clutch and flywheel issues.
@@khalidacosta7133 I thought that was the 2.0 tdi with balanceshafts, in the more luxerious cars, like the Passat and Audi A 6. There was a modification to delete the balanceshaftassembly and install a proper drive for the oilpump
Great video I agree with you new cars are terrible I work for a Land Rover dealer jlr cars are crap we have problems like that every day with exhaust sensors I heat up crack it of spray wd40 into it let it cool spray again and pray they don’t pull the threads im looking to get out of garage life
Totally agree with becoming uneconomical to repair. Everything is mental money. I Work on evs and just to do even a basic hv harness is over £1k. No longer the satisfaction of diagnosing and then replacing one small part to fix the vehicle. It’s all £2k big units to replace but it’s where it’s going
And yet we are told to be green, but all tech stuff is made to last 5 years at best and can't be repaired economically . That's why I drive a 22 year old diesel 😂😂😂😂
Whole household here bailed out diesel cars early 2015, a Volvo S40 1.6d with elloys tank and a Golf 1.6d, both had errors for dpf . On petrol since, such a joy not having engine management codes popping up.
I have a 2012 s40 D and never had problems, but I make sure to give it a good hard drive now and then. If you’re not doing the daily miles you’re better off with petrol
Anyone expecting Reliability Good Design and Dependability out of a JLR product needs counselling lol, These Ingenuim Engines should have finished them as a Mass Manufacture.
I recently had to get rid of a good solid 2015 1.8 petrol Zafira Tourer.Lost compression on all cylinders would easily have been worth the £3k price of a factory replacement engine.But parts were made no longer available for a less than 10 year old car. 30 years old no chance other than maybe a few cheap and nasty Chinese made pattern parts.
@JoeFarrell -e3f To be fair not all the fault of manufacturers.More like legislation. But no excuse for the deliberate and obvious shutting down of older car product support.There is no legislation against product support of the existing and classic fleet. To the point of new body shells and replacement engines and transmissions for stock.
All these things supposed to make car's greener, do nothing but make motoring more expensive. They wear parts out faster - start/stop for example, which requires them replacing more frequently.
@@triv7252It’s an excuse. The levels of NOx in stirred outdoor air are way too low to be incrementally helpful. Source: 40 years in applied respiratory health research including a stint in London air quality in the 1990s.
Quick tip, melt a crayon into the heated internal thread when removing those sensors & you might just get lucky! most looseall burns off within seconds of application as you will know trust me i thought i was bullshit first time i saw it but surprisingly it works 🔧
I drive a car which weighs less that 700Kg's, yes seven hundred Kilograms. Bear with me. If all modern cars were less than 1000 Kg's (which trust me is possible) we would have no need for half of the strangled emissions and over-complex nonsense systems we find on cars today, also the damage to roads/particles from tyres/CO2 emissions would be a fraction of what is present now. The car makers and legislators have now gone so far down this blind alley, that now almost every vehicle on the road is an enormous, totally-strangled, 2 ton monster, spewing waste and particles like there is no tomorrow. Light weight was always the answer. Less really is more.
@@rodneypennington1086 on a more serious note, yes I agree, he is right. The car isn’t suddenly going to disappear overnight is it but it would help if we all chose to drive lighter and smaller cars. We made that decision recently and our family car is a Honda Jazz, for the four of us and my car is a MX5, low tax and both can do over 50mpg. If I didn’t only have street parking the Jazz would have been electric. I’m a libertarian I guess so I’m not one for telling people what to do, but we sometimes have to make sensible choices, that said even the Jazz is a fun car and extremely reliable as is a MX5.
An exhaust gas temp sensor failed on my 12 year old ( and since sold on) Qashqai a few years back and it was a pain in the rear end to get it out of the exhaust at the back of the engine in an almost impossible to reach spot. It took me three days of lying under the car swearing, grazed knuckles, pulled muscles from trying to get it out with ratchets, breaker bar and heat but it would not budge a millimetre. So I got a hacksaw and cut off the wiring and external metal bit and then I got a special socket for removing rounded off bolts (and it was well rounded off at that stage) and using the longest breaker bar I had, I pulled and pulled and slowly I felt it give way and finally come out. Luckily the threads in the bore were fine. I fitted the new sensor in and got it back up and running with no engine management light. Seeing as how a professional like Baz failed to get that sensor out with a pichler, I don’t feel so bad now that it took me three days of bloody mindedness to get my sensor out. Being stubborn and refusing to give in has its place I suppose!
Thing is I have to show the bad side of the repairs even with the expensive tooling as sometimes if it's going to snap or fail, I wish everything went smoothly all the time but unfortunately it don't we like to keep things real, glad you sorted it though and never gave up 🤙
@ well it gives heart to a diy mechanic like me when a pro like you gets frustrated with a repair job too! I thought you’d take a mallet to that car at one point as I could sense the frustration! I agree with you that modern diesel cars have become a royal pain in the rear end, which is why I’ve gone back to petrol. So much easier to maintain than diesels now. Thanks for taking the time to make these videos Baz. All the best from Ireland
We had so much DPF problems with my wife's car that for myself I got an old 1.4 HDI Peugeot that was made before DPFs were a thing, and the missus went to petrol. I wouldn't touch a modern diesel with a 10 foot pole
I had two E Paces Baz, one from new and the second a 6 month old demo car. You can check the ad blue level from one of the sub-menus on the dashboard. The first one was when they first came out, and for 2/3 months always seemed to be at the dealership! Second one had the DPF replaced under warranty. Although I loved driving the car, it wasn’t a car to have out of a warranty, sold it just before the warranty ran out. Bought a Honda HRV eHybrid. 5 years warranty, 5 years servicing and 5 years BD cover all included in the price. Had it 19 months now - Swiss watch and 60mpg. Jag dealers are full of cars nobody wants now! Great video Baz, always wondered what they looked like underneath 👍😎
@@georgedaville4662 I think with the new branding jaguar will be the new rover.. they can't keep on making these expensive cars and all failing it must cost them a fortune to replace these parts under warranty or recall
@@julesviolin- I prefer the security of a long warranty and inclusive service package these days. Honda change the oil and filters every year irrespective of mileage! I enjoy seeing how many mpg I get on journeys these days. My days of high speed motorway driving is well behind me now!
I was a mechanic back in the 60's and 70's and gave it up before all this ridiculous electronic nonsense came out. I really feel for you blokes working on modern crap, sorry, cars.
I started in the 60's, so simple then. Spent years renovating old tractors, Petrol mostly, 20's 30's 40's mostly. Worst part was cranking them on a cold day when the oil was thick.....
Brill episode mate know your pain my boss buys n sells JLR stuff it keeps me busy I can tell you I’m 66 in four months and I won’t miss em. IDE never buy a euro 6 diesel. Remember the first time I came across that problem with the over filled add blue tank nearly 2 bloody days to sort it had to ask for help in the end apparently the tank level is measured by sonar and if you over fill the sonar can’t see the level 😫😡
I agree about ad blue. And it can go off! It can chrystalise in the tank which means a new expensive tank. Especially on motorhomes that are sitting around for months and only doing a short holiday run. We always kept our motorhome's ad blue level low so we could just put 5 litres in. New ad blue bottles have only a short shelf life so just just check the date manufactured before buying. But of course, I don't need to tell you this, do I, lol. Great video.
Great video Baz and for all those who say buy a petrol they are now being fitted with particulate filters😲 My cousin and husband have one of those awful E pace Jags and they are always having to put AdBlue in it and they do less mileage than me. My Peugeot 2.0ltr Blue HDI only uses 10ltr's per 10k miles, still I know which is the better engine
A trick I learned a long time ago to get stubborn sensors out is to heat the fitting just below red, then quench it with a full hose pressure dousing with water to cool it really fast. They rarely need a second heating as the seize is broken. Cheers.
Prvi put vidim da je neko namontirao novi DPF. Ovo je lulsuz u Srbiji. Uglavnom to posečemo, a dijagnostičar isključi. Bravo za posao. Svaka čast tebi. Pozdrav iz Srbije...❤❤❤❤
New cars are shocking! I own a Colt Ralliart nearly 15 year old on 65k, nothing goes wrong with it, I look after it with oil etc, my neighbour has an ev 2 year old cost him a fortune and is £15k negative equity in it.
As a famous millionaire said, the worst thing you can do with money is invest in a depreciating asset. Plenty of thickos out there who spunk monthly payments on a car (depreciating asset) in order to "keep up with the Jones's." Imagine borrowing money you can't afford to impress people who don't give two fucks!
@@mjb-d4i Aye mental eh?! I sleep easy knowing I couldn't give two shiny shites about keeping up with the Jones's. I'll stick my cash in assets, shares and savings ...I don't want to be financing some millionaire leeches lifestyle! Mortgage paid off a couple of years ago, no debts to pay and enough money by the time I'm 48 to retire.
@@mjb-d4i crazy pal eh?! Reality is these guys will never have any money to bank and call their own. Working hard to pay for the lifestyle of someone else who doesn't give two shiny shites about them....
While popping my 24 year old Land Rover Disco TD5 into a mate's place for a front wheel alignment I was chatting to him about his business. He reckons that within the next 5, at the most 10 years he's out. He thinks xars will become the equivalent of white goods with no way of economically repairing them. I find this very sad and i wonder what the future holds. My business is restoring, repairing and manufacturing unobtainable parts for vintage and classic motorcycles, also a dying business. As it happened my string alignment toe in technique was bang on and he wasn't going to take any cash but I insisted on giving him a tenner for popping the alignment gear on to check 😁
Bought a 1988 Camry 15 odd years ago as a second car and paid $700 Aus, drives like a dream has done 160000km apart from battery, new exhaust and the normal servicing that i do myself its never broken down on the road. Feel like the odd one out when on the road with all these modern cars but i known i won't have all these modern problems and cost that goes with them.😊
What a pain! I bought two O2 sensors for my 2009 petrol Ford Falcon wagon last week and got the gearbox guy to throw them in whilst he was doing a service and had the car on the hoist. Took him all of 5 mins and no extra charge. Cost me $167 for the sensors, which is about £83 - not each, for both. Those Jag sensor prices are crazy. 😮
09 Focus 1.6 tdci on 100k. The DPF and EGR have been, ahem, "amended". Averages 50-75 MPG on a run, passes emissions with flying colours. 35 quid tax. I'll keep it until it falls apart. I also run a 2017 VW Transporter Highline 150bhp diesel camper as my indulgence vehicle. It's been an absolute money pit with perpetual DPF, EGR and injector issues. If I keep it, it will be getting the same "amendments" as the Focus.
Gave up on diesel cars four cars ago. Gave up on new cars this year. Bought a 15 year old Audi instead. Still a pain in the arse to fix with amount of overengineered vacuum system but luckily it's fairly solid overall and at least the basic maintenance is a sinch.
Bought a 3 year old 2019 Citroen C5 1.5 add blue diesel automatic Aircross suv with 30k on the clock, alright it's not everyone's cup of tea but it's been 100% reliable so far with regular servicing, it's already had the gear box trans fluid changed 3 times. Parts are no more expensive than our our old 1998 Citroen Xantia. Bulbs are cheap and easy to fit no headlamps out takes 10 minutes to change the headlamp bulbs. No more handbrake turns since the electric handbrake came along but Citroen have started to use better quality electric calipers to the first ones available. I fill the addblue tank twice a year and have never had a warning light for low addblue all in all it's a pretty reliable modern car.
Unfortunately, manufacturers have no choice but to engineer and fit these expensive and often unreliable emission control systems, they have to meet emissions standards, whatever it takes. If you think about countless millions of people living right next to busy roads 24/7 and the impact it's having on health, especially on children, it makes more sense. But I do feel sorry for mechanics and the repair bills the poorest people that have to drive older vehicles face. It could be enough to force people to use public transport if we had decent public transport, but we don't! I can see that you feel for your customers and do your level best to avoid expensive repair bills while still making a cracking job of it, I hope you get the thanks and appreciation you deserve!
You forget the tire grinding in the air. Especially by electric vehicles that eat tires, because of their weight and horsepower. Co2 is secondary. The earth has never been so green and people are living longer. Stop with that nonsense.
@@micky1up a quick Google search will reveal reality, which is that they will face huge fines if they fail to comply or submit incorrect emissions data. The size of the fines imposed in every country would make it unviable to comply with EU standards.
@@Freba66 CO emissions are not secondary, fact. It isn't nonsense, nor are particulate and soot emissions. To deny hard evidence is like saying the world is flat. Good luck with that!
@@Freba66 The earth has never had more C02 in the atmosphere. We're already locked in for some serious warming, and more if we don't sort it out. I don't care though, no kids so the world can burn :D But to deny science, probably;y means you just don't understand it, maybe not even a GCSE in the subject?
Modern Diesel cars are a goldmine for the garages. EGR system Swirl Flaps Throttle Body AdBlue System DPF Bosch CP4 pump A multitude of sensors in the exhaust stream Modern Diesels are bound to experience problems with all of the list above sooner or later and its all expensive and labour intensive to repair. The only modern vehicle I would want to personally own is just something with a dead simple port injected petrol engine thats NOT turbocharged. Preferably an automatic hybrid. A bit hard to find but they do exist: Mazda, Honda and Toyota make them. Those Mazdas seem a bit expensive but seems like the really have proper drivetrains.
Very good video. I have a Focus 150 TDCi 2017 and that is Euro 6 without using AdBlue. I don't know how they do it but I am glad. Still got a DPF of course so no 2 mile journeys. Hate tp receive that owner's bill for the work.
Its worth spending £10 for a DPF cleaning additive to add to the diesel every now and then if you do shorter trips- it lowers the burn temperature for the particulates. Could save an expensive repair like this.
Been buying petrol 2L chain drive Honda for 20 years as my daily cars, can honestly say l've never had an issue beyond consumables wearing out, no faults, nothing failing or breaking, currently got a 2007 CRV that looks 5 years old and will be going a few years yet.
As someone now in my 70s who spent many years in the motor industry I run a e39 BMW 2.5 petrol manual which will be my last car. Relatively simple, extremely reliable and a pleasure to drive.
And when it fails, you'll bin it as labour costs now make it uneconomical to fix. About 10 years ago my E39 535i's autobox went into limp mode at 130k, estimate was £1000 just to assess (cheapest way was to put the car on a frame and rotate 180 degrees). eBay'd it instead, got £325.
When removing sensors from the old exhaust heat the metal at thread entry then with a damp cloth cool the the threaded sensor this will cool the thread and undo sensor the difference in expansion in metals will help, I carry this out in the heating industry with large threaded fittings, let me know how you get on.
@@aficio698 cheers buddy this one is testing me I'm not going to lie, I've made many phone calls to people who specialise in jlr stuff even dealer techs and I've done everything right to the book it's just not playing ball but I'll get to the bottom of it, fortunately for me there's a great network of techs from all over the UK from all manufacturers and we all bounce off each other with various stuff which is really handy
Bought 2.5 pajero sport back in 05 , have over 500k km on it ,same clutch, gearbox , engine going beautiful never gave trouble. I was very good at getting it serviced and protecting the underneath from corrosion. Hopefully I can keep it going for a long time .
This is why don't want new car I have 2014 ford focus estate on 200 thousand plus miles I service it every 10 thousand miles and wot ever it needs it gets it runs sweet 😊
Diesels used to be such great, practical cars. Tough, reliable, less CO2 produced and economical - DPFs were a problem initially but nowadays with even more EGR activity and the need for a second (Ad Blue) fuel - they have become too complex, unreliable and expensive to fix. It's a shame. That particular DPF looked quite far from the engine - does that model of car struggle to produce enough exhaust heat to burn of the carbon naturally?
Yep. I started out with a Citoren 1.9 diesel (the most reliable, did 100k (to 187000) with no issues), next Citroen diesel a 2.0 hdi, and currently a Peugeot 1.6 hdi. Cars diesel cars are getting less reliable, though touch wood, mine have been great.
@@bazmeredith no money in it for the manufacturers making them last. Had a 22 i30 in, injectors went, DPF broke away from the side walls, €3500 + vat for a replacement
I have wondered for years why someone does not desigh a really basic vehicle, one that is cheap to run, easy to fix and has the bare minimum of things that can go wrong. I am sure it would fly off the shelves.
@ yet people can whizz around on ebikes and scooters. I am sure if someone put their mind to it they could figure out a way. Does a boot need to open automatically, electric sun roof, electric windows it all seems a bit much.
@Yomi-san bikes and scooters are not subject to automobile laws. A backup camera for example is legally required and cannot be omitted. It's not about "figuring it out". A simple, easy to repair car, wouldn't pass legal requirements
Just a quick tip. Get an exhaust grinder and put to cuts in the nox / matter sensor collars, heat the collars up and some wax into the treads and the sensors should come out OK.
Use 22mm and 24mm o2 sensor tool for nox snd o2 sensor Never use heat on them it will strip the threads Never had a problem Did you change the cooler fliter egr low pressure The vehicle eml will return if not changed Filters easy to change once dpf allready removed
baz dude you can slice the side of the old sensor boss on the dpf with a slitting disc thru the threads carefully without effin up the sensor. can help a lot of times.
I work in a bodyshop we repair less stuff than we did 10yrs ago due to cost of parts when a headlamp costs £2k and u need 2 a car quickly uneconomical to repair
@MegaReddevil71 that's why people go into shock when the bodyshop says their car is a write off even if it only has a smashed up front bumper and headlights
JLR stuff is terrible. TATA who own them recently blacklisted a whistleblower because he raised the flag for quality on one of TATA’s EV brands. We’ve got a 2010 X5 30d and a 2014 740d. No issues other than age related control arms wearing out at 100k. We had the X5s chains, bearings and oil pump changed preventatively because it’s the family barge and we love it, all the toys including auxiliary diesel heater for the winter which isn’t common in the UK. The wife loves pressing the remote and coming out 15 minutes later to a fully defrosted car. If it was JLR it would have imploded by now.
I had that model (E-Pace D180) on a 5 year lease. It was a lovely car and no faults in all that time but I only did 40k miles due to Covid. What put me off keeping it was the JLR dealership, they refused to do the first service until 20k miles which was about 2.5 years old by which time the oil was like treacle. A heated discussion resulted in being told that the Car's computer will let them know when it needs an oil change! No common sense, its just what computer says. That cant be good for the car's longevity especially considering the Ingenium reputation for failed timing chains.
I drive a 2004 mk1 Focus. Never misses a beat, passes MOT without any expense, and I only bought it as a crash repair job. Fixed it up to get me to work, temporarily. Can’t let it go, after 5 years. The money is there to buy a new one 😮😮😮😮…but…There’s nothing newer that I could buy, that will compete with the maintenance costs. Everything out there has a time bomb fault…ingeniums, CVT, ad blue , …….all these things are just waiting to bite your wallet. My friends Mercedes’ goes through sensors on a monthly basis….costs him a fortune. “ I drive a Mercedes” he says….😂😂😂😂😂. The dealer sends him Christmas cards.🎉🎉
I got laughed at by a customer because I had to tell them the coolant system in their exhaust had failed. I couldn’t believe it either. There was coolant running along the exhaust in order to cool the emissions to make them less harmful.
For me the issue with the dpf on these is that it’s in the middle of the car , take a bmw the dpf is closer to the turbo so when you want something to get to 500c+ it’s better to be closer to the heat source I know they block for other reasons egr etc but it still adds to the problem
Manufacturers should use anti-seize grease on sensor threads to save sensors. People who mainly do short trips should not be sold modern diesels ! Expect the car has to go through engine ecu drive cycle before the add blue will reset its self , would be easy just to have reset button on dash.
I have a massive Lazer tools tap and die set as many replacement catts have weld splatter in the threads and I've managed to save many a sensor thread with the set.doesnt work in every case but often gives enough thread to secure the damaged sensors 👍
@@craigbrandom3096 ye I've got the thread chasers for the exhaust side but not the sensor, I need to try find one somewhere as you only get about 5 threads to play with
Been a petrol head all my life, and have a 91 Firebird I've had for 22 years. I've recently bought a 2015 Nissan Leaf to get me the short distance to work because of all the DPF etc garbage on cars today, and I've got to admit, I don't miss an exhaust, DPF, Catalytic converter, EGRs, crankshaft sensors, ignition coils. etc. 🤨
Surely if seizing is a problem then the servicing schedule should include part releasing, relubricating & tightening specific nuts etc. About 100 potential points of failure could be addressed in 2 hours. £200 bill every 2 years to save thousands or an early write off is surely money well spent?
Great vid Baz! I saw a video the other day of someone melting crayons onto the thread of these exhaust sensors to prevent the threads pulling. Could you try that next time to see if the crayon wax helps to preserve the threads?
It's an old school hack that's more of an old wives' tale. Doesn't work. Copaslip is your friend; something that's been developed by clever people for decades for one specific job...
Why didn't you use some kind of anti seize on the sensor threads when refitting them?I use ceramic grease on my Yamaha bike EXUP valve. Good to 1200°C apparently.
Thank you for reminding me why no one in their right mind should buy a Euro 6 compliant diesel. You'd need to be commuting from London to Edinburgh to get your money back on the maintenance of these nightmare vehicles.
Would it be worth cutting the sensors out of the old dpf, And cutting either a diagonal slit or carefully cut a flat spot out of one side of the female threaded lug, If they cost a few hundred a pop, (Using skinny cutting grinder discs, of course) Its definitely worth a shot
The Adblue quality error suggests the customer had filled the tank with water, does it not? Was the EGR filter clogged - due to the damaged DPF (underfloor SCRoF) ? Was there an error explicitly from the soot sensor to indicate a high level of damage to the DPF. The tailpipe wipe did look pretty bad though.
I work on buses and the newer stuff with adblue are an utter nightmare. Constant warnings, limp mode. It's utterly crap and car owners of diesel cars have a whole world of pain and expense. PS. ADL do have an adblue gauge.
After 44 years in the Trade most of my friends wouldn't dream of owning a disaster of a vehical,and if they do they just rent them for a short while so not to inherited someone else's problems. 11:59 Beauty is in simplicity!
Have a petrol 2003 Mk1 Focus estate... Paid £1,250 for it.. That was 11 years ago. The thing is amazing. Has loads of room for all my tool's and is easy to service... The rust is spreading though.
I have a 06 1.5 dci nissan note, it has 120.000 miles on it, I paid 1k for it and have had it for 7yrs, I've replaced discs pads, tyres, front struts, track rods, coil springs, timing belt and water pump over the years but nothing else and all of those things I've mentioned cost next to nothing off ebay and fitted myself
A 2018/19 diesel and the exhaust is already causing trouble. If these DPFs are anything like the aftermarket Cats there's no hope for car owners. Seen a number of early 2000's petrol cars failing the emissions test with new aftermarket Catalytic converters. Expensive times ahead for petrol and diesel car owners.
I have a 2011 Fiesta 1.6 diesel with 87k on it. Owned it for a year now and the only issue was a bad MAF sensor which cost me £30. It plods along like a little sowing machine. I have a substantial inheritance coming to me in the next few months and I wanted to get something newer and more comfortable and up to date like a 3 year old Audi A3 or VW Golf for around 23k. Newer premium brand cars now seem like disposable items after the manufacturer's warranty has ended. They also skimp on interior quality and most of them use wet belts. I really dont know what car to buy now. So many issues with these premium brand cars.
The DPF on a 2011 Hyundai i20 1.4 crdi is a horrible job, it's behind the engine and takes ages to remove. New one costs £3,300 from Hyundai. The only other one I can remember that was hard was on a Lexus. A bad DPF can write a car off easily because they cost crazy money. Looks like he needs tyres too
You'll be waiting awhile... this type of video only attracts the 200k miles 2004 passat bunch. You never hear about the cars which were unreliable for them. just like gamblers
My last diesel was a Skoda 1.9sdi from new, pxd at 500,000 brilliant estate No dpf No egr No problem will never touch a new diesel, Now running a Skoda petrol 1.0tsi nice 55mpg, Take care.
What I kinda cannot understand why people get such an expensive car and then let the fuel level go that low, and also let the adblue system run almost dry (not necessarily in this case but in a lot of cases) and these two also can lead to problems with DPF issues. Just top up your fuel and keep your adblue from running low and you should be good in most of the cases. Yes I know there are cars that are problematic even then but most can go up to ridicolous miles if the owner tops up the fuel and adblue and does not only drive in the city.
What a goddamned hassle.If i ever buy a car again i'd consider early/mid nineties car which doesn't have dozens of micro processors in the vehicle.Petrol at £1.40 a litre is rediculous,I get around on my electric bike which gets me into central London quicker and cheaper than a car.
Would installing the sensors with a copper based anti seize on the threads work OK? Or does the exhaust just get too hot for these compounds to survive?.
I've been in the motor trade nearly 35 years and nearly every newer car is an absolute pain in the arse to work on , even a basic service has the potential for disaster if you don't what your doing, everything is virtually impossible to get to unless you have at least four joints in your forearm, not to mention the escalating costs as you go from one seized this that and another, the problem is that modern cars are not built to last, i'm seriously considering stacking shelves at tesco!
It's not getting any easier that's for sure we'll just have to adapt to it untill we all say enough is enough and stack shelves
@stevekirkman3441 This is why I've went away from working on cars to doing tool calibration and compressor repairs.
PROBALLY why classics making come back 40 + yrs old cortinas , vauxhaull vivas morris marinas , 1000s . TAX/ MOT except for time being . EURO 6 right ball ache costly trouble some .
Why would anyone buy a modern Jag, with or without a crap marketing TV ad? 🫤
Why I fly 30 year old Volvo and Jaagggg 🙃
I've been in engineering for years ! If we come across a situation similar to yours with the sensors ,, is disconnect sensors , slice pipework so each sensor has slice of pipework attached , take them to bench , put them in vice , and grind away , or just cut a slot in nut and bury em in release fluid !! 100 % success rate since doing it this way! Hope this helps someone!!!😮😮
Yet again reminded why i love my 2004 Lexus GX470.......with 412k on the clock and nothing but consumables, 1 set UJs, one set front CV shafts......and a rear wiper motor...
What Mpg in that please ?
Is250 owner here for nearly 11 years. I wouldn't part with it for a gold pig.
I’m the same my daily driver is a BMW E60 2.5i 90 thousand miles on the clock and has never let me down
Switched from diesel to petrol and not looked back. I now have a £5k budget when buying a car, as soon as it gets uneconomical to repair it' will be sold off. With cost of repairs nowadays makes more sense
Same ish here. 12plate SkodaSuperb, no problem for the 10years I’ve had it. Now, estimate 2-3k for injectors, front spring, emission control unit, door regulator. Bought new Kia Sportage, 7 year warranty and at my age (71) willing to pay for stress free motoring. Might not even see end of warranty.😋
I'd like to add a shout out for my ultra reliable (touch wood) Honda Civic 2.2 diesel '12 plate currently sitting on 176k miles. Made in the UK, and has caused me zero grief in the 7 years I've had it. And a brief honourable mention to the Toyota Corolla (2005) that I had for several years before that! Bloody good car 😊
Citroen xsara picasso 1.6 hdi. I bought it new, now 18 years old with 150,000 miles. Still on original clutch, exhaust, alternator, etc. only new stuff has been tyres and battery.
The sills need some attention for mots but it has done me proud on costs.
I'm dreading getting a new car.
I have 3 cars ,all pre 2008 ,oldest is 55 plate
56
Then 57 plate
@@goldeneagle99last golden years of cars you've got there
When I was young, cars were scrapped for one reason. Rust! All other problems were easily and cheaply fixed. Now cars don’t rust so the manufacturers had to find another way to get people to scrap their car. Put the price of spares sky high
Exhaust systems now over complicated, Exhausting the customers bank account. Ta for the videos, very interesting and honest.
Puns for fun...
Citroen xsara picasso 1.6 hdi. I bought it new, now 18 years old with 150,000 miles. Still on original clutch, exhaust, alternator, etc. only new stuff has been tyres and battery.
The sills need some attention for mots but it has done me proud on costs.
I'm dreading getting a new car.
I've had Citroen zx C4 coupe nothing wrong with them like Citroen , I'll never buy a newer car
im TERRIFIED!!!!!!!!
For you
your gonna be in for a shock
but i believe your gonna get lucky!!!!!!
Best VW PD diesels built between 2006 and 2009. No DPF, DMF, EGR or AdBlue and no wet belts or cam belts at the gearbox-end either.
2001-2007 pd's you mean. They have egr but easily removed. They have sachs dmf if 6speed and you want 55+mpg 5speeds may not have dmf? but generally take alot of abuse. No adblue or dpfs to worry about, you can run them on anything (tried and tested) im on my 3rd pd130 currently running 312bhp 545nm 😊 i love the torque and i love the smoke. F greta and f khan and the ulez ❤😂
The ones where the oil pump shaft rounds off?
@@khalidacosta7133 thats before pd. alh engine code which have mechanical fuel pump in the likes of a mk3 golf. Pd's have chain driven cog oil pumps in sump. Never had issue there 👍
@@khalidacosta7133 that was the famous 2.0 tdi, with the cracking cilinderhead, turbofailure, softwarefailure (no start at warm engine) and lots of clutch and flywheel issues.
@@khalidacosta7133 I thought that was the 2.0 tdi with balanceshafts, in the more luxerious cars, like the Passat and Audi A 6. There was a modification to delete the balanceshaftassembly and install a proper drive for the oilpump
Great video I agree with you new cars are terrible I work for a Land Rover dealer jlr cars are crap we have problems like that every day with exhaust sensors I heat up crack it of spray wd40 into it let it cool spray again and pray they don’t pull the threads im looking to get out of garage life
Holt's Rustola is way more effective than WD 40.
@@briancarton1804AC 90 is best. That's what we use to strip locos and bogies down.
@@richardburns1287 I have used AC 90. I still prefer rustola.
The Land Rover garage i work for is to tight to pay for it
👉🤢 woke jaguar landrover...and shite ,so far underengineered , would have better trust in a chimpanze!
Totally agree with becoming uneconomical to repair. Everything is mental money. I Work on evs and just to do even a basic hv harness is over £1k. No longer the satisfaction of diagnosing and then replacing one small part to fix the vehicle. It’s all £2k big units to replace but it’s where it’s going
And yet we are told to be green, but all tech stuff is made to last 5 years at best and can't be repaired economically . That's why I drive a 22 year old diesel 😂😂😂😂
@@composedlight6850everything they promote as green is the opposite. If you do any delving into wind turbines it’s surreal how bad they actually are.
Whole household here bailed out diesel cars early 2015, a Volvo S40 1.6d with elloys tank and a Golf 1.6d, both had errors for dpf . On petrol since, such a joy not having engine management codes popping up.
Petrol cars don't have problems? Amazing
@@ryanwatterson4038 Try to avoid refilling with diesel if petrol dependent.
DPF delete is the best option
I have a 2012 s40 D and never had problems, but I make sure to give it a good hard drive now and then. If you’re not doing the daily miles you’re better off with petrol
Anyone expecting Reliability Good Design and Dependability out of a JLR product needs counselling lol, These Ingenuim Engines should have finished them as a Mass Manufacture.
I think their new marketing adverts will do that.
Thanks for this, its helped me to decide to stick with 30 year old cars!😀
I recently had to get rid of a good solid 2015 1.8 petrol Zafira Tourer.Lost compression on all cylinders would easily have been worth the £3k price of a factory replacement engine.But parts were made no longer available for a less than 10 year old car.
30 years old no chance other than maybe a few cheap and nasty Chinese made pattern parts.
@confederatenationalist7283 Parts are OK for 30 year old Mercedes but can be pricey. Good news is these cars are very well made.
@JoeFarrell
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To be fair not all the fault of manufacturers.More like legislation.
But no excuse for the deliberate and obvious shutting down of older car product support.There is no legislation against product support of the existing and classic fleet.
To the point of new body shells and replacement engines and transmissions for stock.
My car is a '10 plate on the last MOT the advisory said "rear suspension has corrosion" NO SH1T IT'S 14 YEARS OLD!
All these things supposed to make car's greener, do nothing but make motoring more expensive.
They wear parts out faster - start/stop for example, which requires them replacing more frequently.
have you ever breathed in NOx? I dare you to try it
@@triv7252It’s an excuse. The levels of NOx in stirred outdoor air are way too low to be incrementally helpful.
Source: 40 years in applied respiratory health research including a stint in London air quality in the 1990s.
Thanks Baz. Your channel is gold. Thank you for your efforts 🙏
Quick tip, melt a crayon into the heated internal thread when removing those sensors & you might just get lucky! most looseall burns off within seconds of application as you will know trust me i thought i was bullshit first time i saw it but surprisingly it works 🔧
I drive a car which weighs less that 700Kg's, yes seven hundred Kilograms. Bear with me. If all modern cars were less than 1000 Kg's (which trust me is possible) we would have no need for half of the strangled emissions and over-complex nonsense systems we find on cars today, also the damage to roads/particles from tyres/CO2 emissions would be a fraction of what is present now. The car makers and legislators have now gone so far down this blind alley, that now almost every vehicle on the road is an enormous, totally-strangled, 2 ton monster, spewing waste and particles like there is no tomorrow. Light weight was always the answer. Less really is more.
The answer is nearly always a MX5, no turbo, 1050kg and you can pack your kids up and stick them in the boot…….. ok maybe not the last bit.
This is the best comment in this thread. If all cars were 2l or less the world would be saved, for a couple of decades anyway.
@@rodneypennington1086 on a more serious note, yes I agree, he is right. The car isn’t suddenly going to disappear overnight is it but it would help if we all chose to drive lighter and smaller cars. We made that decision recently and our family car is a Honda Jazz, for the four of us and my car is a MX5, low tax and both can do over 50mpg. If I didn’t only have street parking the Jazz would have been electric. I’m a libertarian I guess so I’m not one for telling people what to do, but we sometimes have to make sensible choices, that said even the Jazz is a fun car and extremely reliable as is a MX5.
@@Robinmuk what car do you have, an Elise? Trying to think of a modern car that weighs 700kg
Underated comment.
An exhaust gas temp sensor failed on my 12 year old ( and since sold on) Qashqai a few years back and it was a pain in the rear end to get it out of the exhaust at the back of the engine in an almost impossible to reach spot. It took me three days of lying under the car swearing, grazed knuckles, pulled muscles from trying to get it out with ratchets, breaker bar and heat but it would not budge a millimetre. So I got a hacksaw and cut off the wiring and external metal bit and then I got a special socket for removing rounded off bolts (and it was well rounded off at that stage) and using the longest breaker bar I had, I pulled and pulled and slowly I felt it give way and finally come out. Luckily the threads in the bore were fine. I fitted the new sensor in and got it back up and running with no engine management light. Seeing as how a professional like Baz failed to get that sensor out with a pichler, I don’t feel so bad now that it took me three days of bloody mindedness to get my sensor out. Being stubborn and refusing to give in has its place I suppose!
Thing is I have to show the bad side of the repairs even with the expensive tooling as sometimes if it's going to snap or fail, I wish everything went smoothly all the time but unfortunately it don't we like to keep things real, glad you sorted it though and never gave up 🤙
@ well it gives heart to a diy mechanic like me when a pro like you gets frustrated with a repair job too! I thought you’d take a mallet to that car at one point as I could sense the frustration! I agree with you that modern diesel cars have become a royal pain in the rear end, which is why I’ve gone back to petrol. So much easier to maintain than diesels now. Thanks for taking the time to make these videos Baz. All the best from Ireland
We had so much DPF problems with my wife's car that for myself I got an old 1.4 HDI Peugeot that was made before DPFs were a thing, and the missus went to petrol. I wouldn't touch a modern diesel with a 10 foot pole
Same here, moved to Mazda petrol to get away from an Audi with all sorts of dpf and adblue faults
I had two E Paces Baz, one from new and the second a 6 month old demo car. You can check the ad blue level from one of the sub-menus on the dashboard. The first one was when they first came out, and for 2/3 months always seemed to be at the dealership! Second one had the DPF replaced under warranty. Although I loved driving the car, it wasn’t a car to have out of a warranty, sold it just before the warranty ran out. Bought a Honda HRV eHybrid. 5 years warranty, 5 years servicing and 5 years BD cover all included in the price. Had it 19 months now - Swiss watch and 60mpg. Jag dealers are full of cars nobody wants now! Great video Baz, always wondered what they looked like underneath 👍😎
@@georgedaville4662 I think with the new branding jaguar will be the new rover.. they can't keep on making these expensive cars and all failing it must cost them a fortune to replace these parts under warranty or recall
Aren't Hondas bland to drive though.
Love my X351 and 100% reliable so far in 9 years.
Change the oil every 5k not the stupidly long Jag Interval
@@julesviolin- I prefer the security of a long warranty and inclusive service package these days. Honda change the oil and filters every year irrespective of mileage! I enjoy seeing how many mpg I get on journeys these days. My days of high speed motorway driving is well behind me now!
I was a mechanic back in the 60's and 70's and gave it up before all this ridiculous electronic nonsense came out. I really feel for you blokes working on modern crap, sorry, cars.
I started in the 60's, so simple then. Spent years renovating old tractors, Petrol mostly, 20's 30's 40's mostly. Worst part was cranking them on a cold day when the oil was thick.....
the 90's and early 2000's had decent motors, the advantage of EFI without the rediculous emmisions
You probably ride a horse right boomer ? No nonesense electronics there......
Brill episode mate know your pain my boss buys n sells JLR stuff it keeps me busy I can tell you I’m 66 in four months and I won’t miss em. IDE never buy a euro 6 diesel. Remember the first time I came across that problem with the over filled add blue tank nearly 2 bloody days to sort it had to ask for help in the end apparently the tank level is measured by sonar and if you over fill the sonar can’t see the level 😫😡
I agree about ad blue. And it can go off! It can chrystalise in the tank which means a new expensive tank. Especially on motorhomes that are sitting around for months and only doing a short holiday run. We always kept our motorhome's ad blue level low so we could just put 5 litres in. New ad blue bottles have only a short shelf life so just just check the date manufactured before buying. But of course, I don't need to tell you this, do I, lol. Great video.
Useful to know.
Great video Baz and for all those who say buy a petrol they are now being fitted with particulate filters😲 My cousin and husband have one of those awful E pace Jags and they are always having to put AdBlue in it and they do less mileage than me. My Peugeot 2.0ltr Blue HDI only uses 10ltr's per 10k miles, still I know which is the better engine
A trick I learned a long time ago to get stubborn sensors out is to heat the fitting just below red, then quench it with a full hose pressure dousing with water to cool it really fast. They rarely need a second heating as the seize is broken. Cheers.
Prvi put vidim da je neko namontirao novi DPF. Ovo je lulsuz u Srbiji. Uglavnom to posečemo, a dijagnostičar isključi. Bravo za posao. Svaka čast tebi. Pozdrav iz Srbije...❤❤❤❤
This is why I've just spent two days welding my suzuki carry...super reliable... likes rusting unfortunately
New cars are shocking! I own a Colt Ralliart nearly 15 year old on 65k, nothing goes wrong with it, I look after it with oil etc, my neighbour has an ev 2 year old cost him a fortune and is £15k negative equity in it.
As a famous millionaire said, the worst thing you can do with money is invest in a depreciating asset. Plenty of thickos out there who spunk monthly payments on a car (depreciating asset) in order to "keep up with the Jones's." Imagine borrowing money you can't afford to impress people who don't give two fucks!
@@klawlor3659 That’s my neighbours,2 new cars flexing on the drive for everyone to see,£50k on pcp finance outside a £200k house.Morons.
@@mjb-d4i Aye mental eh?! I sleep easy knowing I couldn't give two shiny shites about keeping up with the Jones's. I'll stick my cash in assets, shares and savings ...I don't want to be financing some millionaire leeches lifestyle! Mortgage paid off a couple of years ago, no debts to pay and enough money by the time I'm 48 to retire.
@@mjb-d4i crazy pal eh?! Reality is these guys will never have any money to bank and call their own. Working hard to pay for the lifestyle of someone else who doesn't give two shiny shites about them....
While popping my 24 year old Land Rover Disco TD5 into a mate's place for a front wheel alignment I was chatting to him about his business. He reckons that within the next 5, at the most 10 years he's out. He thinks xars will become the equivalent of white goods with no way of economically repairing them. I find this very sad and i wonder what the future holds. My business is restoring, repairing and manufacturing unobtainable parts for vintage and classic motorcycles, also a dying business.
As it happened my string alignment toe in technique was bang on and he wasn't going to take any cash but I insisted on giving him a tenner for popping the alignment gear on to check 😁
Bought a 1988 Camry 15 odd years ago as a second car and paid $700 Aus, drives like a dream has done 160000km apart from battery, new exhaust and the normal servicing that i do myself its never broken down on the road.
Feel like the odd one out when on the road with all these modern cars but i known i won't have all these modern problems and cost that goes with them.😊
What a pain! I bought two O2 sensors for my 2009 petrol Ford Falcon wagon last week and got the gearbox guy to throw them in whilst he was doing a service and had the car on the hoist. Took him all of 5 mins and no extra charge. Cost me $167 for the sensors, which is about £83 - not each, for both. Those Jag sensor prices are crazy. 😮
09 Focus 1.6 tdci on 100k. The DPF and EGR have been, ahem, "amended". Averages 50-75 MPG on a run, passes emissions with flying colours. 35 quid tax. I'll keep it until it falls apart.
I also run a 2017 VW Transporter Highline 150bhp diesel camper as my indulgence vehicle. It's been an absolute money pit with perpetual DPF, EGR and injector issues. If I keep it, it will be getting the same "amendments" as the Focus.
Those 'amendments' are gaining traction in popularity, no wonder!
Gave up on diesel cars four cars ago. Gave up on new cars this year. Bought a 15 year old Audi instead. Still a pain in the arse to fix with amount of overengineered vacuum system but luckily it's fairly solid overall and at least the basic maintenance is a sinch.
Il keep my 14 year old punto, very slow but very simple and very cheap. 👍
Cracking engine that fire unit.
Bought a 3 year old 2019 Citroen C5 1.5 add blue diesel automatic Aircross suv with 30k on the clock, alright it's not everyone's cup of tea but it's been 100% reliable so far with regular servicing, it's already had the gear box trans fluid changed 3 times. Parts are no more expensive than our our old 1998 Citroen Xantia. Bulbs are cheap and easy to fit no headlamps out takes 10 minutes to change the headlamp bulbs. No more handbrake turns since the electric handbrake came along but Citroen have started to use better quality electric calipers to the first ones available. I fill the addblue tank twice a year and have never had a warning light for low addblue all in all it's a pretty reliable modern car.
Unfortunately, manufacturers have no choice but to engineer and fit these expensive and often unreliable emission control systems, they have to meet emissions standards, whatever it takes. If you think about countless millions of people living right next to busy roads 24/7 and the impact it's having on health, especially on children, it makes more sense. But I do feel sorry for mechanics and the repair bills the poorest people that have to drive older vehicles face. It could be enough to force people to use public transport if we had decent public transport, but we don't! I can see that you feel for your customers and do your level best to avoid expensive repair bills while still making a cracking job of it, I hope you get the thanks and appreciation you deserve!
You forget the tire grinding in the air. Especially by electric vehicles that eat tires, because of their weight and horsepower. Co2 is secondary. The earth has never been so green and people are living longer. Stop with that nonsense.
yes they do they can refuse to bend to government interference but do they?
@@micky1up a quick Google search will reveal reality, which is that they will face huge fines if they fail to comply or submit incorrect emissions data. The size of the fines imposed in every country would make it unviable to comply with EU standards.
@@Freba66 CO emissions are not secondary, fact. It isn't nonsense, nor are particulate and soot emissions. To deny hard evidence is like saying the world is flat. Good luck with that!
@@Freba66 The earth has never had more C02 in the atmosphere. We're already locked in for some serious warming, and more if we don't sort it out. I don't care though, no kids so the world can burn :D But to deny science, probably;y means you just don't understand it, maybe not even a GCSE in the subject?
Modern Diesel cars are a goldmine for the garages.
EGR system
Swirl Flaps
Throttle Body
AdBlue System
DPF
Bosch CP4 pump
A multitude of sensors in the exhaust stream
Modern Diesels are bound to experience problems with all of the list above sooner or later and its all expensive and labour intensive to repair.
The only modern vehicle I would want to personally own is just something with a dead simple port injected petrol engine thats NOT turbocharged. Preferably an automatic hybrid.
A bit hard to find but they do exist: Mazda, Honda and Toyota make them.
Those Mazdas seem a bit expensive but seems like the really have proper drivetrains.
Very good video. I have a Focus 150 TDCi 2017 and that is Euro 6 without using AdBlue. I don't know how they do it but I am glad. Still got a DPF of course so no 2 mile journeys. Hate tp receive that owner's bill for the work.
Its worth spending £10 for a DPF cleaning additive to add to the diesel every now and then if you do shorter trips- it lowers the burn temperature for the particulates. Could save an expensive repair like this.
Been buying petrol 2L chain drive Honda for 20 years as my daily cars, can honestly say l've never had an issue beyond consumables wearing out, no faults, nothing failing or breaking, currently got a 2007 CRV that looks 5 years old and will be going a few years yet.
Could using a slitting disc on the temp sensor boses to give a slight relief to the threads might be enough to turn easily?
Euro 4 diesel no adblue no dpf egr blanked 200k miles runs sweet. 🤙
As someone now in my 70s who spent many years in the motor industry I run a e39 BMW 2.5 petrol manual which will be my last car. Relatively simple, extremely reliable and a pleasure to drive.
And when it fails, you'll bin it as labour costs now make it uneconomical to fix.
About 10 years ago my E39 535i's autobox went into limp mode at 130k, estimate was £1000 just to assess (cheapest way was to put the car on a frame and rotate 180 degrees). eBay'd it instead, got £325.
The diesel service business I use for old school perkins advised me not to touch any diesel built after 2012 as in his words "are all shite ".
When removing sensors from the old exhaust heat the metal at thread entry then with a damp cloth cool the the threaded sensor this will cool the thread and undo sensor the difference in expansion in metals will help, I carry this out in the heating industry with large threaded fittings, let me know how you get on.
Probably more cheeper to delete the dpf and egr, get a decent remap! Lot cheeper then replacing for potentially the same thing to happen again.
Drill a hole through it Baz, and tell the ecu to ignore it 😅
Run a fleet of 100 plus cars and the issues with adblue and Dpf is absurd! Even the servicing agents have difficulty fixing the problems. G8t vid Baz.
@@aficio698 cheers buddy this one is testing me I'm not going to lie, I've made many phone calls to people who specialise in jlr stuff even dealer techs and I've done everything right to the book it's just not playing ball but I'll get to the bottom of it, fortunately for me there's a great network of techs from all over the UK from all manufacturers and we all bounce off each other with various stuff which is really handy
Then these servicing agents are completly bad trained. Issues on DPFs in general are relativly easy to fix if you know how this system work.
@ pay peanuts u get monkeys!
Bought 2.5 pajero sport back in 05 , have over 500k km on it ,same clutch, gearbox , engine going beautiful never gave trouble. I was very good at getting it serviced and protecting the underneath from corrosion. Hopefully I can keep it going for a long time .
This is why don't want new car I have 2014 ford focus estate on 200 thousand plus miles I service it every 10 thousand miles and wot ever it needs it gets it runs sweet 😊
Diesels used to be such great, practical cars. Tough, reliable, less CO2 produced and economical - DPFs were a problem initially but nowadays with even more EGR activity and the need for a second (Ad Blue) fuel - they have become too complex, unreliable and expensive to fix. It's a shame. That particular DPF looked quite far from the engine - does that model of car struggle to produce enough exhaust heat to burn of the carbon naturally?
Yep. I started out with a Citoren 1.9 diesel (the most reliable, did 100k (to 187000) with no issues), next Citroen diesel a 2.0 hdi, and currently a Peugeot 1.6 hdi. Cars diesel cars are getting less reliable, though touch wood, mine have been great.
I thought that. Had a BMW with a dpf and that was immediately after the turbo.
Ah awful lot of that happening on euro 6, pure shite 👍
Getting worse that's a fact!!!!!!!
@@bazmeredith no money in it for the manufacturers making them last. Had a 22 i30 in, injectors went, DPF broke away from the side walls, €3500 + vat for a replacement
Buy petrol.
Cut the sensors out with a grinder and a slitting disc it's easy and you cut the threads away work 100% every tim
I have wondered for years why someone does not desigh a really basic vehicle, one that is cheap to run, easy to fix and has the bare minimum of things that can go wrong. I am sure it would fly off the shelves.
Because it wouldn’t pass a plathora of safety and emissions requirements
@ yet people can whizz around on ebikes and scooters. I am sure if someone put their mind to it they could figure out a way. Does a boot need to open automatically, electric sun roof, electric windows it all seems a bit much.
@Yomi-san bikes and scooters are not subject to automobile laws. A backup camera for example is legally required and cannot be omitted. It's not about "figuring it out". A simple, easy to repair car, wouldn't pass legal requirements
Just a quick tip. Get an exhaust grinder and put to cuts in the nox / matter sensor collars, heat the collars up and some wax into the treads and the sensors should come out OK.
Great video, I admire your patience. It’s not easy lol
Why not apply copper antiseize grease on the knock sensor threads ?
Use 22mm and 24mm o2 sensor tool for nox snd o2 sensor
Never use heat on them it will strip the threads
Never had a problem
Did you change the cooler fliter egr low pressure
The vehicle eml will return if not changed
Filters easy to change once dpf allready removed
baz dude you can slice the side of the old sensor boss on the dpf with a slitting disc thru the threads carefully without effin up the sensor. can help a lot of times.
I work in a bodyshop we repair less stuff than we did 10yrs ago due to cost of parts when a headlamp costs £2k and u need 2 a car quickly uneconomical to repair
It's not so much the parts it's the component protection and gateways to get the new headlamps and adas stuff calibrated it's a nightmare
@MegaReddevil71 that's why people go into shock when the bodyshop says their car is a write off even if it only has a smashed up front bumper and headlights
@@bazmeredith lucky we have a guy who comes in he's mobile and goes round all the bodyshops most he can do
JLR stuff is terrible. TATA who own them recently blacklisted a whistleblower because he raised the flag for quality on one of TATA’s EV brands.
We’ve got a 2010 X5 30d and a 2014 740d. No issues other than age related control arms wearing out at 100k. We had the X5s chains, bearings and oil pump changed preventatively because it’s the family barge and we love it, all the toys including auxiliary diesel heater for the winter which isn’t common in the UK. The wife loves pressing the remote and coming out 15 minutes later to a fully defrosted car.
If it was JLR it would have imploded by now.
I had that model (E-Pace D180) on a 5 year lease. It was a lovely car and no faults in all that time but I only did 40k miles due to Covid. What put me off keeping it was the JLR dealership, they refused to do the first service until 20k miles which was about 2.5 years old by which time the oil was like treacle. A heated discussion resulted in being told that the Car's computer will let them know when it needs an oil change! No common sense, its just what computer says. That cant be good for the car's longevity especially considering the Ingenium reputation for failed timing chains.
JLR should indeed sort this out , it’s embarrassing a company like that is going down the pan .
I drive a 2004 mk1 Focus. Never misses a beat, passes MOT without any expense, and I only bought it as a crash repair job. Fixed it up to get me to work, temporarily. Can’t let it go, after 5 years. The money is there to buy a new one 😮😮😮😮…but…There’s nothing newer that I could buy, that will compete with the maintenance costs.
Everything out there has a time bomb fault…ingeniums, CVT, ad blue , …….all these things are just waiting to bite your wallet. My friends Mercedes’ goes through sensors on a monthly basis….costs him a fortune. “ I drive a Mercedes” he says….😂😂😂😂😂.
The dealer sends him Christmas cards.🎉🎉
I got laughed at by a customer because I had to tell them the coolant system in their exhaust had failed. I couldn’t believe it either. There was coolant running along the exhaust in order to cool the emissions to make them less harmful.
For me the issue with the dpf on these is that it’s in the middle of the car , take a bmw the dpf is closer to the turbo so when you want something to get to 500c+ it’s better to be closer to the heat source I know they block for other reasons egr etc but it still adds to the problem
Manufacturers should use anti-seize grease on sensor threads to save sensors. People who mainly do short trips should not be sold modern diesels ! Expect the car has to go through engine ecu drive cycle before the add blue will reset its self , would be easy just to have reset button on dash.
Oh my... The price of vanity.... I'll stick with my 2010 Kia Rio CRDI- which has no DPF or Dual Mass as standard lol...
The price of vanity is a great way of putting it.
and they can't afford tyres with tread
Took mine off, no egr or dfp now. Runs and sounds nice with less to go wrong. Crayon wax trick for the sensor threads?
Why not get the car in earlier to spray the sensor with easy spray. Then come in later for the servicing?
Very reason I wont buy an oil burner the savings in fuel lost in repairs and maintenance.
I have a massive Lazer tools tap and die set as many replacement catts have weld splatter in the threads and I've managed to save many a sensor thread with the set.doesnt work in every case but often gives enough thread to secure the damaged sensors 👍
@@craigbrandom3096 ye I've got the thread chasers for the exhaust side but not the sensor, I need to try find one somewhere as you only get about 5 threads to play with
@bazmeredith had the set for a few years now and does up to 18mm in a 1.5mm or 1.25mm pitch.absolute life saver sometimes for big bolt stuff 👊
Laser tool part number is 4554 hope this helps 👍
Been a petrol head all my life, and have a 91 Firebird I've had for 22 years. I've recently bought a 2015 Nissan Leaf to get me the short distance to work because of all the DPF etc garbage on cars today, and I've got to admit, I don't miss an exhaust, DPF, Catalytic converter, EGRs, crankshaft sensors, ignition coils. etc. 🤨
Surely if seizing is a problem then the servicing schedule should include part releasing, relubricating & tightening specific nuts etc. About 100 potential points of failure could be addressed in 2 hours. £200 bill every 2 years to save thousands or an early write off is surely money well spent?
Great vid Baz! I saw a video the other day of someone melting crayons onto the thread of these exhaust sensors to prevent the threads pulling. Could you try that next time to see if the crayon wax helps to preserve the threads?
It's an old school hack that's more of an old wives' tale. Doesn't work. Copaslip is your friend; something that's been developed by clever people for decades for one specific job...
...which is why I keep my petrol 2006 X-Type, owned since 2008, despite the punitive £700 road tax.
Why didn't you use some kind of anti seize on the sensor threads when refitting them?I use ceramic grease on my Yamaha bike EXUP valve. Good to 1200°C apparently.
Thank you for reminding me why no one in their right mind should buy a Euro 6 compliant diesel. You'd need to be commuting from London to Edinburgh to get your money back on the maintenance of these nightmare vehicles.
An early Euro6 car does not have an Adblue tank.
Would it be worth cutting the sensors out of the old dpf,
And cutting either a diagonal slit or carefully cut a flat spot out of one side of the female threaded lug,
If they cost a few hundred a pop,
(Using skinny cutting grinder discs, of course)
Its definitely worth a shot
The Adblue quality error suggests the customer had filled the tank with water, does it not? Was the EGR filter clogged - due to the damaged DPF (underfloor SCRoF) ? Was there an error explicitly from the soot sensor to indicate a high level of damage to the DPF. The tailpipe wipe did look pretty bad though.
I work on buses and the newer stuff with adblue are an utter nightmare. Constant warnings, limp mode. It's utterly crap and car owners of diesel cars have a whole world of pain and expense.
PS. ADL do have an adblue gauge.
This vid is a perfect explanation why I neither have nor intend to ever own a diesel car.
My 2004 Honda jazz is great to work on
After 44 years in the Trade most of my friends wouldn't dream of owning a disaster of a vehical,and if they do they just rent them for a short while so not to inherited someone else's problems. 11:59 Beauty is in simplicity!
Have a petrol 2003 Mk1 Focus estate... Paid £1,250 for it..
That was 11 years ago. The thing is amazing. Has loads of room for all my tool's and is easy to service... The rust is spreading though.
Oil from the back can be the turbo too and not just the dpf
I have a 06 1.5 dci nissan note, it has 120.000 miles on it, I paid 1k for it and have had it for 7yrs, I've replaced discs pads, tyres, front struts, track rods, coil springs, timing belt and water pump over the years but nothing else and all of those things I've mentioned cost next to nothing off ebay and fitted myself
Shocking, that, Baz.
Well persevered!
Lots of brands adblue-mytherin'.
Just buy a Honda Jazz!!😂... just found you're channel Baz, this is the first vid & subscribed 👍
@@Willyfarns cheers buddy 🤙
A 2018/19 diesel and the exhaust is already causing trouble. If these DPFs are anything like the aftermarket Cats there's no hope for car owners. Seen a number of early 2000's petrol cars failing the emissions test with new aftermarket Catalytic converters. Expensive times ahead for petrol and diesel car owners.
I have a 2011 Fiesta 1.6 diesel with 87k on it. Owned it for a year now and the only issue was a bad MAF sensor which cost me £30. It plods along like a little sowing machine. I have a substantial inheritance coming to me in the next few months and I wanted to get something newer and more comfortable and up to date like a 3 year old Audi A3 or VW Golf for around 23k. Newer premium brand cars now seem like disposable items after the manufacturer's warranty has ended. They also skimp on interior quality and most of them use wet belts. I really dont know what car to buy now. So many issues with these premium brand cars.
The DPF on a 2011 Hyundai i20 1.4 crdi is a horrible job, it's behind the engine and takes ages to remove. New one costs £3,300 from Hyundai. The only other one I can remember that was hard was on a Lexus. A bad DPF can write a car off easily because they cost crazy money. Looks like he needs tyres too
So what sort of car is now best to buy for reliability and cost effectiveness?
You'll be waiting awhile... this type of video only attracts the 200k miles 2004 passat bunch. You never hear about the cars which were unreliable for them. just like gamblers
BMW E46
My last diesel was a Skoda 1.9sdi from new, pxd at 500,000 brilliant estate No dpf No egr No problem will never touch a new diesel, Now running a Skoda petrol 1.0tsi nice 55mpg, Take care.
I wouldn’t touch any car built after the Covid lockdown. 2019 and earlier is ok. Afterwards - forget it.
I will stick with my 241k 06 Ford Mondeo ST TDCI that I can service & repair myself. :)
My old disco 4 has had no issues with DPF or adblue 360,000 km still kicking. Live in Australia no cold climate might make a difference..
What I kinda cannot understand why people get such an expensive car and then let the fuel level go that low, and also let the adblue system run almost dry (not necessarily in this case but in a lot of cases) and these two also can lead to problems with DPF issues. Just top up your fuel and keep your adblue from running low and you should be good in most of the cases. Yes I know there are cars that are problematic even then but most can go up to ridicolous miles if the owner tops up the fuel and adblue and does not only drive in the city.
yes ! and they always come in empty
What a goddamned hassle.If i ever buy a car again i'd consider early/mid nineties car which doesn't have dozens of micro processors in the vehicle.Petrol at £1.40 a litre is rediculous,I get around on my electric bike which gets me into central London quicker and cheaper than a car.
Would installing the sensors with a copper based anti seize on the threads work OK? Or does the exhaust just get too hot for these compounds to survive?.
melt some wax into the thread before trying to unscrew sensors, it helps a lot.