Honestly as a sequel to the '66 movie and series, this works pretty well. The vivid colors, the dutch angles, celebrity villain casting and overall cheesy tone. I think this movie accomplished what it was going for, the problem is that it wasn't what audiences were wanting.
BINGO. It's people's own fault for going to see a Schumacher film and expecting it to play out like it was directed by Scorsese. Gimme a break, give him 2
Also this movie SCREAMS 90’s…. So it fits really well with this time period…. And what’s with the constant sex anxieties with male nipples…. Shirtless men in media is a thing….
This movie wasn't supposed to be a batman 66 sequel though. They hyped B&R 97 like it was going to be a really good movie like Batman 89 & Batman Returns but B&R turned out to be a shit show
@@Movypro23 well actually it’s not incorrect - look it up! Asteroids rained down on earth but not all dinosaurs died from this! It was the ice age that cemented their fate…. Earth was uninhabitable
When this movie came out, I loved it for nothing else but simply being a Batman movie (I had no standards as a kid), but as an adult, this is the movie that introduced “it’s so bad, it’s actually good” to me lol
This film is a perfect example of "so bad it's good". I like it for what it is. It's a guilty pleasure and when watching it after years it's just funny and entertaining. It is good because it's bad.
I truly can't see how B&R is a "so bad it's good" movie. It's clear they had this cheesy, campy vision from the beginning and they stuck with it. This universe is crazy, but everything is glued together by a good set and costume design. When you think about it, the bat-nipples are actually SO cohesive with the kitsch Gotham city with huge greek statues everywhere. And I think this movie have way more of a vision, good FX, soundtrack and good themes than half of the MCU's "good" movies. It feels as honest and personal as it could be under all WB's crazy direction, Joel did a great job and the movie still has a heart - which is more than I can say about nearly all the super flicks released in the last ten years or so.
I was 5 when this movie came out. My dad took me late at night to see it one night. The fact that he took me out late to see a movie already made the experience awesome, I loved the movie haha. RIP dad, I love you. I haven't seen it since, but it is definitely interesting as an adult to see the differences in a Batman film directed by a very flamboyant gay man. He loved the batnipples, there isn't a single other Batman director that I could imagine even thinking of something like that hahaha. I need to watch it again, it still looks cooler than people give it credit for. The use of color and lighting was great. Also, RIP Joel.
The fans have spoken. We want comics to get with the times. Cis white males have always had the lead roles. It's time for a real version of Wolverine like the comics have it drawn and written... a female version or at least a Trans version. Rumor has it Elliot Page is playing a live action Wolverine and it is going to be amazing. DC is bringing Tim Drake Robin to the big screen. Rumor there is also Elliot Page playing Robin and finally we will see what DC fans like myself have wanted to see, a Batman and Robin romantic relationship as it has always been hinted in the comics and even back with Adam West. What's so wrong with that?
It was the studio execs at Warner Brothers (who also owns DC Comics, the publishers of Batman comic books), that demanded that the Batman film series become lighter and more family friendly in tone, to be more mainstream, now opposed to director Tim Burton's dark and serious approach, which was even more so with the second film in 1992's Batman Returns, as parents criticized its PG-13 rating due to the darker tone and violence, while at the same time trying to promote McDonald's happy meals and toys to kids, which McDonald's dropped the whole happy meal campaign altogether upon parents' backlash. This made Warner execs to change up the direction of the Batman film series with Burton later departing (he stayed on as producer only for Batman Forever) and Joel Schumacher taking over as director with the next two films, Batman Forever and Batman and Robin. Michael Keaton turned down a huge paycheck to play the character again and was not fond with the direction that Schumacher was going with, and decided to leave after a few meetings with Schumacher. We know what became of the rest of the former Batman film series, it slowly went downhill, with the changes shown in Batman Forever (which has its good and bad moments, but its at least still good to watch), but it got much worse with how Batman and Robin ended up being, pure silly camp, going back to the 1960s Batman TV series (or even worse maybe). When the original 1989 film by Burton went back to the character's dark and serious era, finally shedding off the 1960s Batman TV show's camp vibe as well to the fans and general audience, and like how the comic books had done since the 1970s onward, Batman & Robin brought back the bad history of the character's camp era again which killed that Batman film series completely. Schumacher has accepted the blame over these many years and has apologized about B&R ended up being, but blame must go to the bosses at Warner Brothers for interfering in the first place.
Respect to your dad! I would've love to cherish the moment with mine. Despite the critics, I love this movie as part of my childhood. Long live the memory of your father!! PS Relive this adventure again my friend 🤙
@@tubesockvii2351 I'm not really down with a Batman that is in love with a trans Robin, that doesn't sound like the Batman I know at all. I have nothing against trans people but that just doesn't sound like Batman to me. I dont want to offend anyone but at the same time I'm not going to go against how I feel about something.
He did not regret his decision and he knew exactly what he was doing with this film. Just because a movie has a bad reputation does not automatically mean that the director having made a financial decision automatically regrets it. Try to learn
I’m not sure anyone hates the man. People legitimately ripped his movie apart. They didn’t do that for Batman Forever cause that movie was actually good in parts.
No, absolutely hate him for this utterly ignorant shit-show. There were three decades between Adam West and this shit, but he couldn't be bothered to think about what the audience wanted, only what he wanted. In other words, he couldn't learn from Superman III. That's some high-level stupidity.
It’s a shame he didn’t know better of not falling into the sequel trap of repeating the same beats as the previous film, a main reason why this film fails.
"just couple of guys wearing leather hanging out in a cave" joel schumacher's best quote on the Blu-ray commentary track, and explains everything about Batman and Robins relationship
Perfect timing. I've been showing my friend the Tim Burton and Joel Schumacher Batman movies for his first time. Showing him Batman & Robin last night. He actually liked Batman Forever more than Tim Burton's two movies, due to how goofy it was and Schumacher put more focus on Batman than Burton did. He's gonna have an absolute ball watching this.
I remember on the DVD commentary, Joel Schumacher said his original intention with the nipples was to have the suits resemble statues of Greek gods. Boy is that not how audiences interpreted it.
Like Forever, THIS FILM IS STILL DARK AND BRUTAL AND GOTHIC AND ADDITION STYLIZED AND GORGEOUS NOT AS HORRIFYING AS BURTONS VISUAL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The diamond thing is actually clever. Diamonds are nicknamed “ice” by gangsters because an easy way to tell if a diamond is fake is by touching it to your lip. If it’s cold, it could be a diamond due to its high heat conductivity. Putting a diamond to your lip feels a lot colder than a cubic zirconia. It’s like how rocks always feel cold to the touch. It absorbs your heat. Hence “ice”. They needed to give a criminal something criminal to do so diamonds was actually pretty clever. (Obviously there are smarter ways to tell it’s a fake, but they’re gangsters so..)
For real! The whole movie seemed to be both sn homage to the campy Adam West Batman TV show, and a 90 minute toy commercial at the same time! I was taken out of Batmen and Robin as soon as they clicked their heels together to pop out ice skates! I didn't really even notice the Bat-nipples on the suits as a kid-- but those Bat-skates just killed me!
I absolutely loved Batman Forever, and still think it's great! I'll never forget watching it as a kid in the theater, and how excited I was to see their awesome new suits in the end and the three vehicles they use to assault Two-Face and The Riddler. The only Batman movie that I liked more was (obviously) The Dark Knight.
I’ve rewatched Batman Forever and misguided portrayal of two face aside, I really enjoyed Jim Carrey as Riddler. I also liked Val as Bruce Wayne too. Not great, but a good Batman movie none the less 💁♂️
I'm a big fan of the Schumacher movies, and it always bums me out to know that a huge majority of people completely disregard them due to their surreal and campy nature. I believe we need more Batman media like this, the closest we got was the brave & the bold cartoon, and those batman 1966 throwback movies.
In my opinion, 99 % of the audience, who watched this / walked out on it / are still using Batman and Robin as a legitimate reason, why the character can't be funny were and are idiots.
The favorite part of this movie is when Bruce Wayne had that heart-to-heart talk with Alfred. And Bruce Wayne asked Alfred did he ever feel bad about working for the Wayans. And Alfred said no the guardian of Heroes, Alfred said my only regret is I never could be out there with you.
You have a new subscriber bro 😎 Great vid ! I’m glad I’m not the only one that feels the same about B&R It might not be great but it’s good in its own way , it keeps you entertained and plus its childhood 😊
I still love this movie. Mostly because it's so hilarious in it's tone. The fireside chats between Bruce and Alfred are awesome. Plus, the physical sets are gorgeous to look at. No CGI backdrops, mostly.
I agree with you 100%. The sets and practical effects were cool. Nowadays it's all CGI, it's all done in post instead of being done on set while being filmed. It creates a totally different atmosphere. That was one of the great things about Nolan's Dark Knight trilogy as well. The practical effects were incredible. I'd rather watch a shitty movie with practical effects than a decent movie with a shit ton of CGI.
I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again, I liked George Clooney as Wayne/Batman a hell of a lot more than I did Val Kilmer’s. Not a great movie by any standard, but Clooney’s Batman I did enjoy. Way too many puns and bad jokes though even for me. Val was legendary in that movie Top Secret though. So funny.
In addition to Mr. Freeze, Poison Ivy and Bane, there's even a fourth lessor known supervillain this movie somehow managed to ruin. Jason Woodrue, aka the Floronic Man. Poor John Glover, you could've been somebody!😄
I am okay with the campy tone, but there are several problems with the movie. 1. Tonal issues between being an homage to the 60s show and being a continuation of the 90s series. Mr. Freeze’s backstory about his wife’s disease conflicts with his portrayal being like the 60s Mr. Freeze. The campy parts conflict with the Alfred plot. 2. George Clooney is a bad Batman. He doesn’t act any different when he’s Bruce Wayne and Batman. Adam West did have a slight performance change between the two roles, even though it wasn’t as much as Michael Keaton or Val Kilmer. 3. Robin is annoying. He’s more annoying than in Batman Forever, where he was more tolerable and had an arc that this movie threw away. 4. The fight scenes are bad and wirework is very obvious.
I don't think it was entirely Schumacher's fault, he made exactly what the studio told him to make, They wanted a campy childrens toy commercial more in the style of the 1966 series, they said it needs to be "toyetic" and to have a lot of cool weapons, Batsuites and vehicles.
Very weird to me that you’d dump on this movie for not understanding the Batman characters and mythos, then go on to also rip it for Bane being powered by Venom. That is one of a number of things that are just directly from the comics.
Mr. Freeze " I Hope Mr. Bane Can Swim " Bane jumps through hole in wall to river below and says this " AH AH AH AH AH AH AH AH " cracks me up everytime
Joel Shumacher got far more hate for this movie than he rightfully deserved. As a homage to the Adam West series in the style of Rocky Horror camp this movie would've worked perfectly as a stand alone film. Problem was WB and Shumacher misread their audience established by the original Burton films. They weren't the older adults who grew up with the 60's series, but were the younger generation that was introduced to Frank Miller's darker and more grounded graphic novels. But they wanted to sell their Happy Meal toys and decided to make the drastic tonal shift. It should've been treated as an offshoot, like the Lego Batman movies, and not a continuation of the main franchise.
@6:42-6:52 Hey you ain't right, man!! Batman VS TMNT was an awesome crossover in both comic books and in movie format. The stories of these five icons teaming up is different, depending on if you have actually read the damn comic books. But it was still amazing to see Batman and the Ninja Turtles interact with each and stopping the Shredder and Ra's Al-Ghul.
Holy shit. I've lived to see the day when Joblo recognizes Jesse Ventura in a scene, but not Ralf Moeller, arguably the second best Conan The Barbarian after Arnold. Damn, so disappointed. Not to mention he currently plays Poseidon in the BMW commercials, opposite Arnold as Zeus.
The 4K Blu-ray is incredible on this film you wouldn't know it was made 25 years ago, about the film itself yeah its corny and Clooney is basically playing dress-up as Batman but Arnold is having a blast you can tell.
Oh dear God this film. Thanks Warner Brothers for killing your own franchise for nearly a decade. Thankfully Joel Schumacher still made good films after this & George Clooney’s film career didn’t get tanked; he’s had the biggest laugh on the foolishness of the film
This was an overcorrection when Batman Returns wasn’t a huge hit. Batman Forever was already an overcorrection and this took that to the next level. But in the 90s, that’s what people wanted. Pierce Brosnan’s 13 year old boy one liners in every PG-13 movie. It got really stupid really fast. I was so relieved when Daniel Craig showed up in 2006 and Batman got back on track the year before. At least try to suspend my disbelief.
@@biguy617 i am. I get it's fun to hate a movie because it's not the version you wanted. but there is a large swath of batman everyone always dismisses. and it's a delightful world. The brave and the Bold series captured it more often. But batman and robin pushed for that lighter batman. people compare it to the west batman but that's limited exposure. for instance batman had a chemical that allowed him to breathe underwater like a fish. for no reason. just had it
@@FAlock01 It was due to the comic code authority why the silver age of Batman was so light hearted and campy. Had the writers not returned Batman to his darker tone, the character would have been cancelled.
@@jsutton0010 I understand that and won't argue with it. however, the reason I love this movie is because of that zaniness, and weirdness of over the top characters. and devilish fun. Batman can work in a variety of mediums but since this movie it's all been in grey in the films I mean and the stories have been mostly the same and boring.
The fact that it's hard to tell where the movie ends and where the jokes begin (For a moment I thought the "red sticky goo phase" joke was part of the original film) tells you all you need to know about this mess.
I can't believe we're into the sixth seventh live action version of Batman after 40s serials, 60s TV show, Burton, Schumacher, Nolan, Snyder and now Reese.
I love this movie. As a young kid when it came out it was perfect. I never thought anything was wrong with this movie when people started trashing it online, and I still don't. Nostalgia overload. I had the toys, i was this Robin for Halloween that year and it had JIM CAREY! That's all I needed. And it's still awesome. This movie rocks.
@@seekforjannah2432I think it depends how u look at it. If u view it as the dark and gritty Batman, yes it’s terrible. If u view it as the Adam west movie and show, it’s a better remix of it
This movie was teerrible. Batman Forever was great, If Schumacer had kept the same tone as forever , and only Arnold as the villain, it coulve been cool
Y'know, if this movie was just slightly better or made slightly more money or didn't get Clooney clowned quite as hard, we'd have gotten the final installment of the Schumacher trilogy instead of the Nolan reboot. Yup. Schumacher is partially albeit unintentionally responsible for the Dark Knight. I assume the Schumacherverse would've ended with Bruce Wayne waking up in a cold sweat only to realize that it was aaaaaaall a dream.
I never understood how they looked at what they wanted to make vs what they made as what the movie made. So, you make 150M after costs yet you wanted 300m . So you look at it as 150m lost and not 150m made. They stopped making movies witch is 0$ vs 700m they would have made vs only 225m they made 10 years later.
Considering that the director is a flamboyant homosexual, it makes sense to me why the movie turned out the way it did. Sure it's super silly, but it's completely marketed and made for children, so you can't say that it missed the mark; countless movies made these days can't even do that, studios insist on interfering and just end up crapping out unfocused turds like Batman v Superman. So props to Schumacher for sticking to his guns and delivering consistency.
Im so happy they didn't make that other Batman movie, and still wish we had gotten the third Burton film but alas there is always the 89 Batman comic ...... as late as it is to come out
For everyone who gripes about all Batman movies being dark and gritty and serious... they always complain about Schumacher's flicks, which are silly and lighthearted and stupid.
When Batman Forever came out, I was still young enough to like anything that had superheroes and flashing lights. Somewhere between that movie and this one, I got old enough to develop... taste, I guess? I'm not convinced that was a good thing. Young & Dumb > Old & Cynical
I forgot about Bane in this lame movie. He looks like the creatures in "The Beastmaster". I really liked the TV show "Batman". This was an unsuccessful attempt to capture the tongue-in-cheek campiness. While Alicia did look hot in her Batgirl costume, she was no Julie Newmar as Catwoman.
Okay. I don't hate Batman and Robin. I loved and still love Batman Forever. Batman Forever was great. I really liked what Joel Schumacher did with Batman Forever. Although Batman Forever was more like a comic book and Jim Carrey providing comic relief as The Riddler, it was still a very dark movie due to Bruce Wayne's PTSD and being haunted by his parent's murder. Two-Face murdering Dick Greyson's family and Dick Grayson desiring revenge on Two-Face. Batman and Robin was good, but it wasn't great and I don't think it was as good as Batman Forever. I think the problem with Batman and Robin is that they really carried away with it and it was done too much like the 1960s TV series starring Adam West and it lacked the darker aspects and elements of the mythology of Batman. Batman and Robin felt more like a comedy and it didn't take itself too seriously and it was more kid friendly. George Clooney was miscast as Batman/Bruce Wayne and he was a terrible choice. Chris O'Donnell was good again as Robin/Dick Grayson. Arnold Schwarzenegger was great as Mr. Freeze. But, it would had been good if Schwarzenegger's Mr. Freeze was more darker and sinister like The Terminator and Schwarzenegger's Mr. Freeze was more a anti-villain and a sympathetic character. Alicia Silverstone did a good job playing Barbara Wilson/Batgirl. However, it didn't make sense that she was Alfred's niece and she should had a British accent. But, they should had kept Batgirl as Commissioner Gordon's daughter. Uma Thurman did the best she could as Poison Ivy and with what she had to work with and she was sexy as Poison Ivy. The movie had some good action and some good CGI for it's time and I liked the end credits song "The End is the Beginning is the End" by The Smashing Pumpkins. It seems to me, Batman and Robin was a rushed production like Series 8 of Game of Thrones and it came out too soon after Batman and Forever and Warner Bros. should had left Batman and Robin for 3 - 4 years. There was things that could had been done with Batman and Robin. The franchise getting rebooted as Christopher Nolan's Dark Knight trilogy was a blessing and The Dark Knight was a massive blockbuster hit earning the late Heath Ledger an Oscar for his brilliant performance as The Joker. The 2nd reboot Batman VS. Superman: Dawn of Justice was pure shit and Justice League was no better. The upcoming 3rd Batman reboot - The Batman starring Twilight's Robert Pattinson looks really good and I think it could be the best Batman movie since The Dark Knight and hopefully better than Batman VS. Superman. I am beginning to think Batman and Robin was better than Batman VS. Superman. Batman and Robin wasn't a perfect film. But it's still entertaining despite it's problems and flaws and love it or hate it, Batman and Robin is a good movie and it's a film I come back to every now and then.
Didn't know Robin said cowabunga. I'm really trying to find things I like about this. But I was a teenager really high on Arnold Schwarzeneggar movies at the time it came out and I've still never watched this turkey
The only one whose career never recovered, unfortunately, is Alicia Silverstone, the one who had the last to do with this abomination. It's too bad, too. She deserved better.
6:09 FWIW - this movie made my life... interesting.... as I was going through boot camp in the U.S. Army. The drill sergeants had me shout lines frequently like "Ice to see you," "Cool party," and "The name is Freeze, learn it well..." Sigh. Too many one-liners for one movie.
Honestly as a sequel to the '66 movie and series, this works pretty well. The vivid colors, the dutch angles, celebrity villain casting and overall cheesy tone. I think this movie accomplished what it was going for, the problem is that it wasn't what audiences were wanting.
BINGO. It's people's own fault for going to see a Schumacher film and expecting it to play out like it was directed by Scorsese. Gimme a break, give him 2
Also this movie SCREAMS 90’s…. So it fits really well with this time period…. And what’s with the constant sex anxieties with male nipples…. Shirtless men in media is a thing….
This movie wasn't supposed to be a batman 66 sequel though. They hyped B&R 97 like it was going to be a really good movie like Batman 89 & Batman Returns but B&R turned out to be a shit show
That's EXACTLY why it's hated. It's NOT a '66 movie. It's from the same series of serious movies.
@@CaptainCat101 Exactly my point !
Joel Schumacher made some truly awesome films. Tigerland, Falling Down, The Client, A Time To Kill, Flatliners, Phone Booth, 8mm.
He has a remarkable gift for making _anyone_ look beautiful.
He's just an AMAZING guy in general
He also wrote The Wiz and it was god awful
@@lutherheggs451 get off the drugs. The Wiz is awesome.
Don't forget The Lost Boys and all the damn vampires.
“What killed the dinosaurs? The Ice Age!” My god that line still haunts me 🤦🏽♂️
I was 10 when I saw this and I still knew that fact was incorrect 😁
😂😂😂
@@Movypro23 well actually it’s not incorrect - look it up! Asteroids rained down on earth but not all dinosaurs died from this! It was the ice age that cemented their fate…. Earth was uninhabitable
Everybody chill gets me
That ending shot of them running to the camera is still awesome.
When this movie came out, I loved it for nothing else but simply being a Batman movie (I had no standards as a kid), but as an adult, this is the movie that introduced “it’s so bad, it’s actually good” to me lol
I was a kid also and it reminded me of a live action comic book so of course I loved it
This film is a perfect example of "so bad it's good". I like it for what it is. It's a guilty pleasure and when watching it after years it's just funny and entertaining. It is good because it's bad.
I truly can't see how B&R is a "so bad it's good" movie. It's clear they had this cheesy, campy vision from the beginning and they stuck with it.
This universe is crazy, but everything is glued together by a good set and costume design. When you think about it, the bat-nipples are actually SO cohesive with the kitsch Gotham city with huge greek statues everywhere.
And I think this movie have way more of a vision, good FX, soundtrack and good themes than half of the MCU's "good" movies. It feels as honest and personal as it could be under all WB's crazy direction, Joel did a great job and the movie still has a heart - which is more than I can say about nearly all the super flicks released in the last ten years or so.
I was 5 when this movie came out. My dad took me late at night to see it one night. The fact that he took me out late to see a movie already made the experience awesome, I loved the movie haha. RIP dad, I love you. I haven't seen it since, but it is definitely interesting as an adult to see the differences in a Batman film directed by a very flamboyant gay man. He loved the batnipples, there isn't a single other Batman director that I could imagine even thinking of something like that hahaha. I need to watch it again, it still looks cooler than people give it credit for. The use of color and lighting was great. Also, RIP Joel.
He took you late at night because he was ashamed of how bad this was .
The fans have spoken. We want comics to get with the times. Cis white males have always had the lead roles. It's time for a real version of Wolverine like the comics have it drawn and written... a female version or at least a Trans version. Rumor has it Elliot Page is playing a live action Wolverine and it is going to be amazing. DC is bringing Tim Drake Robin to the big screen. Rumor there is also Elliot Page playing Robin and finally we will see what DC fans like myself have wanted to see, a Batman and Robin romantic relationship as it has always been hinted in the comics and even back with Adam West. What's so wrong with that?
It was the studio execs at Warner Brothers (who also owns DC Comics, the publishers of Batman comic books), that demanded that the Batman film series become lighter and more family friendly in tone, to be more mainstream, now opposed to director Tim Burton's dark and serious approach, which was even more so with the second film in 1992's Batman Returns, as parents criticized its PG-13 rating due to the darker tone and violence, while at the same time trying to promote McDonald's happy meals and toys to kids, which McDonald's dropped the whole happy meal campaign altogether upon parents' backlash. This made Warner execs to change up the direction of the Batman film series with Burton later departing (he stayed on as producer only for Batman Forever) and Joel Schumacher taking over as director with the next two films, Batman Forever and Batman and Robin. Michael Keaton turned down a huge paycheck to play the character again and was not fond with the direction that Schumacher was going with, and decided to leave after a few meetings with Schumacher. We know what became of the rest of the former Batman film series, it slowly went downhill, with the changes shown in Batman Forever (which has its good and bad moments, but its at least still good to watch), but it got much worse with how Batman and Robin ended up being, pure silly camp, going back to the 1960s Batman TV series (or even worse maybe). When the original 1989 film by Burton went back to the character's dark and serious era, finally shedding off the 1960s Batman TV show's camp vibe as well to the fans and general audience, and like how the comic books had done since the 1970s onward, Batman & Robin brought back the bad history of the character's camp era again which killed that Batman film series completely. Schumacher has accepted the blame over these many years and has apologized about B&R ended up being, but blame must go to the bosses at Warner Brothers for interfering in the first place.
Respect to your dad! I would've love to cherish the moment with mine. Despite the critics, I love this movie as part of my childhood. Long live the memory of your father!! PS Relive this adventure again my friend 🤙
@@tubesockvii2351 I'm not really down with a Batman that is in love with a trans Robin, that doesn't sound like the Batman I know at all. I have nothing against trans people but that just doesn't sound like Batman to me. I dont want to offend anyone but at the same time I'm not going to go against how I feel about something.
Arnold’s face on the thumbnail makes the video even funnier. It goes really well with the Awfully Good tagline. 😂
Don't hate Joel Schumacher just because he broke his rule of not making sequels
He deeply regreted that decision
He did not regret his decision and he knew exactly what he was doing with this film. Just because a movie has a bad reputation does not automatically mean that the director having made a financial decision automatically regrets it. Try to learn
I’m not sure anyone hates the man. People legitimately ripped his movie apart. They didn’t do that for Batman Forever cause that movie was actually good in parts.
Shouldn't he regret making The Wiz more than he regrets Batman & Robin.
No, absolutely hate him for this utterly ignorant shit-show.
There were three decades between Adam West and this shit, but he couldn't be bothered to think about what the audience wanted, only what he wanted.
In other words, he couldn't learn from Superman III.
That's some high-level stupidity.
It’s a shame he didn’t know better of not falling into the sequel trap of repeating the same beats as the previous film, a main reason why this film fails.
"just couple of guys wearing leather hanging out in a cave"
joel schumacher's best quote on the Blu-ray commentary track, and explains everything about Batman and Robins relationship
"A sultry, plant-based seductress." Exceptional writing and delivery throughout this episode, Jesse.
Thank you kindly, kind sir, those compliments keep me going.
Extra points for Doctors Bel, Biv & Devoe and the Tom Hardy headf##k ! Very well done xxx
The super steroid Bane uses is called Venom in the comics
Perfect timing. I've been showing my friend the Tim Burton and Joel Schumacher Batman movies for his first time. Showing him Batman & Robin last night. He actually liked Batman Forever more than Tim Burton's two movies, due to how goofy it was and Schumacher put more focus on Batman than Burton did. He's gonna have an absolute ball watching this.
I remember on the DVD commentary, Joel Schumacher said his original intention with the nipples was to have the suits resemble statues of Greek gods. Boy is that not how audiences interpreted it.
but no nipples on Batgirl eh? Greek Goddess statues got these too
Coolio as Scarecrow is something I never thought I would want to see, but at the same time, not want to see.
The thing I've learned about the Batman universe is never touch any toxic chemicals ever. It will always turn you into a villain.
I actually quite like this movie🤣 I know it's awful and super cheesy but it's such a guilty pleasure🙃
Valid
Super Fun Movie...
Someone understands! Lol
I love it too. It makes me miss the ‘90s something crazy.
Like Forever, THIS FILM IS STILL DARK AND BRUTAL AND GOTHIC AND ADDITION STYLIZED AND GORGEOUS NOT AS HORRIFYING AS BURTONS VISUAL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Great video, Jesse. I was laughing the entire time. I love your references and the editing!
The diamond thing is actually clever.
Diamonds are nicknamed “ice” by gangsters because an easy way to tell if a diamond is fake is by touching it to your lip. If it’s cold, it could be a diamond due to its high heat conductivity. Putting a diamond to your lip feels a lot colder than a cubic zirconia.
It’s like how rocks always feel cold to the touch. It absorbs your heat. Hence “ice”. They needed to give a criminal something criminal to do so diamonds was actually pretty clever.
(Obviously there are smarter ways to tell it’s a fake, but they’re gangsters so..)
“With Batman Forever, I I felt like I was making a movie. With Batman and Robin, I felt like I was making a toy commercial.”
- Chris o Donnel
"Donnel"
For real! The whole movie seemed to be both sn homage to the campy Adam West Batman TV show, and a 90 minute toy commercial at the same time!
I was taken out of Batmen and Robin as soon as they clicked their heels together to pop out ice skates!
I didn't really even notice the Bat-nipples on the suits as a kid-- but those Bat-skates just killed me!
He should be glad Al Pacino didn’t show up as scarecrow 😁
He was not wrong
One of the greatest quotes in world history "Never trust a big butt and a smile. " Socrates couldn't think that deep.
I still unironically feel that Clooney is the best Bruce Wayne. At least the billionaire playboy exterior version that the world sees.
It's not inorganic that YOU feel that way 😂
"This movie saves its worst villan for a cameo in the credits." Plays R. Kelly's song.
Me: 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
I absolutely loved Batman Forever, and still think it's great! I'll never forget watching it as a kid in the theater, and how excited I was to see their awesome new suits in the end and the three vehicles they use to assault Two-Face and The Riddler. The only Batman movie that I liked more was (obviously) The Dark Knight.
@@matthewdaley746 So you're comparing, The Dark Knight Rises to Batman and Robin
I’ve rewatched Batman Forever and misguided portrayal of two face aside, I really enjoyed Jim Carrey as Riddler. I also liked Val as Bruce Wayne too. Not great, but a good Batman movie none the less 💁♂️
Same I don’t get the hate for forever
I'm a big fan of the Schumacher movies, and it always bums me out to know that a huge majority of people completely disregard them due to their surreal and campy nature. I believe we need more Batman media like this, the closest we got was the brave & the bold cartoon, and those batman 1966 throwback movies.
In my opinion, 99 % of the audience, who watched this / walked out on it / are still using Batman and Robin as a legitimate reason, why the character can't be funny were and are idiots.
The favorite part of this movie is when Bruce Wayne had that heart-to-heart talk with Alfred. And Bruce Wayne asked Alfred did he ever feel bad about working for the Wayans. And Alfred said no the guardian of Heroes, Alfred said my only regret is I never could be out there with you.
Awesome
I take it you mean the Waynes? Because the Wayans are not superheroes, at least not that I've ever heard! 😆
@@Serai3 You take that back! Damon Wayans was Blankman.
Michael Gough gave the best performance in this film.
@@Serai3 Blankman eat it😄
Graham Norton: So you're apologizing for _Batman and Robin?_
George Clooney: I always apologize for _Batman and Robin!_
Supposedly, if one has the guts to walk up and ask, George Clooney will refund the price of a Batman & Robin ticket on the spot.
You have a new subscriber bro 😎
Great vid ! I’m glad I’m not the only one that feels the same about B&R
It might not be great but it’s good in its own way , it keeps you entertained and plus its childhood 😊
I still love this movie. Mostly because it's so hilarious in it's tone. The fireside chats between Bruce and Alfred are awesome. Plus, the physical sets are gorgeous to look at. No CGI backdrops, mostly.
So what? Being Cgi doesn't make a bad movie.
That's the problem. It came from a serious series of Batman movies. If it originated from. Adam West, then it would've been ok
I agree with you 100%. The sets and practical effects were cool. Nowadays it's all CGI, it's all done in post instead of being done on set while being filmed. It creates a totally different atmosphere. That was one of the great things about Nolan's Dark Knight trilogy as well. The practical effects were incredible. I'd rather watch a shitty movie with practical effects than a decent movie with a shit ton of CGI.
The "Bebe's Kids" joke is priceless. Yet, I'd buy it for a dollar.
I still enjoy this film as much as I did when I first watched it. Maybe even more.
In all fairness to the serial, Batman wasn't even ten years old yet as a character. The overhead projector bat signal though 😂😂😂
That Keenan and Kel Scarecrow bit took me out😹😹
I had to come back for the R.kelly jokes at the end. PURE COMEDY!
I hope Uma gets her spotlight as poison ivy once again, she was incredible.
This and The Dark Knight Rises are the only Batman films without Oscar nominations.
I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again, I liked George Clooney as Wayne/Batman a hell of a lot more than I did Val Kilmer’s. Not a great movie by any standard, but Clooney’s Batman I did enjoy. Way too many puns and bad jokes though even for me. Val was legendary in that movie Top Secret though. So funny.
Top secret is a masterpiece!
It’s amazing how over time this has gone from panned to guilty pleasure to a somewhat underrated fine wine of a film.
Well Schumaker wanted me and Forever to be dark as the Tim Burton ones but the studio forced him to do otherwise
In addition to Mr. Freeze, Poison Ivy and Bane, there's even a fourth lessor known supervillain this movie somehow managed to ruin. Jason Woodrue, aka the Floronic Man. Poor John Glover, you could've been somebody!😄
16:45....OMG!!!! THANK YOU FOR FINALLY CALLING UMA OUT ON WHAT'S BEEN OBVIOUS THESE MANY YEARS!!!😘😘
Bane driving around Poison Ivy was the funniest part!
this movie is probably my Biggest Guilty Pleasure!
That BBD JOKE at 9:10 took me out lmaoooo you sir are great!
I am okay with the campy tone, but there are several problems with the movie.
1. Tonal issues between being an homage to the 60s show and being a continuation of the 90s series. Mr. Freeze’s backstory about his wife’s disease conflicts with his portrayal being like the 60s Mr. Freeze. The campy parts conflict with the Alfred plot.
2. George Clooney is a bad Batman. He doesn’t act any different when he’s Bruce Wayne and Batman. Adam West did have a slight performance change between the two roles, even though it wasn’t as much as Michael Keaton or Val Kilmer.
3. Robin is annoying. He’s more annoying than in Batman Forever, where he was more tolerable and had an arc that this movie threw away.
4. The fight scenes are bad and wirework is very obvious.
I don't think it was entirely Schumacher's fault, he made exactly what the studio told him to make, They wanted a campy childrens toy commercial more in the style of the 1966 series, they said it needs to be "toyetic" and to have a lot of cool weapons, Batsuites and vehicles.
Worth the wait, another instant classic jessie
Very weird to me that you’d dump on this movie for not understanding the Batman characters and mythos, then go on to also rip it for Bane being powered by Venom. That is one of a number of things that are just directly from the comics.
This video is brilliant. Truly, it’s a work of art. Bravo.
Mr. Freeze " I Hope Mr. Bane Can Swim " Bane jumps through hole in wall to river below and says this " AH AH AH AH AH AH AH AH " cracks me up everytime
Joel Shumacher got far more hate for this movie than he rightfully deserved. As a homage to the Adam West series in the style of Rocky Horror camp this movie would've worked perfectly as a stand alone film. Problem was WB and Shumacher misread their audience established by the original Burton films. They weren't the older adults who grew up with the 60's series, but were the younger generation that was introduced to Frank Miller's darker and more grounded graphic novels. But they wanted to sell their Happy Meal toys and decided to make the drastic tonal shift. It should've been treated as an offshoot, like the Lego Batman movies, and not a continuation of the main franchise.
@6:42-6:52
Hey you ain't right, man!! Batman VS TMNT was an awesome crossover in both comic books and in movie format. The stories of these five icons teaming up is different, depending on if you have actually read the damn comic books. But it was still amazing to see Batman and the Ninja Turtles interact with each and stopping the Shredder and Ra's Al-Ghul.
Holy shit. I've lived to see the day when Joblo recognizes Jesse Ventura in a scene, but not Ralf Moeller, arguably the second best Conan The Barbarian after Arnold. Damn, so disappointed. Not to mention he currently plays Poseidon in the BMW commercials, opposite Arnold as Zeus.
Ralf also had a nice role in Gladiator.
@@ryanbunce3684 my man!
Moeller was an awesome villain in Best of the Best 2!
I actually enjoyed this movie even though it is cheesy.
A very underrated movie!
GD, it's good to have you back Mr. Shade!
You definitely read my mind right here 9:12!
Y’all earned this thumbs up for that “Mr. Pees” shit lmao
Pat Hingle and Michael Gough were G**DAMN treasures
They were there for the 💰 nothing else but it's tragic they should had stopped by telling the studios just say enough.
The 4K Blu-ray is incredible on this film you wouldn't know it was made 25 years ago, about the film itself yeah its corny and Clooney is basically playing dress-up as Batman but Arnold is having a blast you can tell.
The Bruce/Alfred scenes were the only part of this film that had heart and thus I have blanked every other moment out.
Oh dear God this film. Thanks Warner Brothers for killing your own franchise for nearly a decade. Thankfully Joel Schumacher still made good films after this & George Clooney’s film career didn’t get tanked; he’s had the biggest laugh on the foolishness of the film
The original "Venom" storyline in the Legends of the Dark Knight comics was excellent. (no Bane, but lays the ground work)
Some of these references are mind-blowing.
I miss the onomatopoeia splashing on screen! Ka-Pow! Splat! Blam! Kaboom! Someone should make that edit
This was an overcorrection when Batman Returns wasn’t a huge hit. Batman Forever was already an overcorrection and this took that to the next level. But in the 90s, that’s what people wanted. Pierce Brosnan’s 13 year old boy one liners in every PG-13 movie. It got really stupid really fast. I was so relieved when Daniel Craig showed up in 2006 and Batman got back on track the year before. At least try to suspend my disbelief.
12:26 We almost had Scarecrow spendin most his life
livin' in the gangsta's paradise
It's not Robin and Batman. If they did a series starring Robin lawyers would prevent Bruce Wayne from suiting up.
This movie is great. A perfect send up to the silver age of comics. Love this movie.
Ha ha! Are you serious?!
@@biguy617 i am. I get it's fun to hate a movie because it's not the version you wanted. but there is a large swath of batman everyone always dismisses. and it's a delightful world. The brave and the Bold series captured it more often. But batman and robin pushed for that lighter batman. people compare it to the west batman but that's limited exposure. for instance batman had a chemical that allowed him to breathe underwater like a fish. for no reason. just had it
@@FAlock01 It was due to the comic code authority why the silver age of Batman was so light hearted and campy. Had the writers not returned Batman to his darker tone, the character would have been cancelled.
@@jsutton0010 I understand that and won't argue with it. however, the reason I love this movie is because of that zaniness, and weirdness of over the top characters. and devilish fun. Batman can work in a variety of mediums but since this movie it's all been in grey in the films I mean and the stories have been mostly the same and boring.
The movie was 💩💩💩💩
Dinosaurs was an underrated show.
Not the mama! 😁
"Batman & Robin: Awfully Awful movies."
There, I fixed the title for you. 😆
😂❤😂❤
Great to see you back man!
The fact that it's hard to tell where the movie ends and where the jokes begin (For a moment I thought the "red sticky goo phase" joke was part of the original film) tells you all you need to know about this mess.
Definitely the worst big budget Batman movie ever made so far.
as a kid i loved this but then i grew up and realized how bad this truly was hahaha. the bat nipples???? classic
I can't believe we're into the sixth seventh live action version of Batman after 40s serials, 60s TV show, Burton, Schumacher, Nolan, Snyder and now Reese.
Ninth
So funny. I seriously love this series. I hope one day you’ll join us for a podcast.
Hey JoBlo, I liked the Bell, Biv, and Divoe "Poison" joke.
I love this movie. As a young kid when it came out it was perfect. I never thought anything was wrong with this movie when people started trashing it online, and I still don't. Nostalgia overload. I had the toys, i was this Robin for Halloween that year and it had JIM CAREY! That's all I needed. And it's still awesome. This movie rocks.
The movie was one piece of 💩💩💩💩💩💩💩
@@seekforjannah2432I think it depends how u look at it. If u view it as the dark and gritty Batman, yes it’s terrible. If u view it as the Adam west movie and show, it’s a better remix of it
I don't care what anyone says.... I love Batman & Robin!
This movie was teerrible. Batman Forever was great, If Schumacer had kept the same tone as forever , and only Arnold as the villain, it coulve been cool
Video was overall very entertaining, but you get the like for the SNES music at the end.
Y'know, if this movie was just slightly better or made slightly more money or didn't get Clooney clowned quite as hard, we'd have gotten the final installment of the Schumacher trilogy instead of the Nolan reboot. Yup. Schumacher is partially albeit unintentionally responsible for the Dark Knight. I assume the Schumacherverse would've ended with Bruce Wayne waking up in a cold sweat only to realize that it was aaaaaaall a dream.
Awfully good movies is perfect for ganja time….
Some men just want to watch the world freeze.
Did anyone else get an ad for Little Caesar’s Bat-Calzone the second Alfred says “I’ll cancel the pizza”?
I never understood how they looked at what they wanted to make vs what they made as what the movie made. So, you make 150M after costs yet you wanted 300m . So you look at it as 150m lost and not 150m made. They stopped making movies witch is 0$ vs 700m they would have made vs only 225m they made 10 years later.
Considering that the director is a flamboyant homosexual, it makes sense to me why the movie turned out the way it did. Sure it's super silly, but it's completely marketed and made for children, so you can't say that it missed the mark; countless movies made these days can't even do that, studios insist on interfering and just end up crapping out unfocused turds like Batman v Superman. So props to Schumacher for sticking to his guns and delivering consistency.
Im so happy they didn't make that other Batman movie, and still wish we had gotten the third Burton film but alas there is always the 89 Batman comic ...... as late as it is to come out
R.Kelly is a terrible person but Gotham City is a great song
It is!
For everyone who gripes about all Batman movies being dark and gritty and serious... they always complain about Schumacher's flicks, which are silly and lighthearted and stupid.
The good old days, take me back ...
When Batman Forever came out, I was still young enough to like anything that had superheroes and flashing lights. Somewhere between that movie and this one, I got old enough to develop... taste, I guess? I'm not convinced that was a good thing.
Young & Dumb > Old & Cynical
I forgot about Bane in this lame movie. He looks like the creatures in "The Beastmaster".
I really liked the TV show "Batman". This was an unsuccessful attempt to capture the tongue-in-cheek campiness.
While Alicia did look hot in her Batgirl costume, she was no Julie Newmar as Catwoman.
Okay. I don't hate Batman and Robin. I loved and still love Batman Forever. Batman Forever was great. I really liked what Joel Schumacher did with Batman Forever. Although Batman Forever was more like a comic book and Jim Carrey providing comic relief as The Riddler, it was still a very dark movie due to Bruce Wayne's PTSD and being haunted by his parent's murder. Two-Face murdering Dick Greyson's family and Dick Grayson desiring revenge on Two-Face. Batman and Robin was good, but it wasn't great and I don't think it was as good as Batman Forever. I think the problem with Batman and Robin is that they really carried away with it and it was done too much like the 1960s TV series starring Adam West and it lacked the darker aspects and elements of the mythology of Batman. Batman and Robin felt more like a comedy and it didn't take itself too seriously and it was more kid friendly. George Clooney was miscast as Batman/Bruce Wayne and he was a terrible choice. Chris O'Donnell was good again as Robin/Dick Grayson. Arnold Schwarzenegger was great as Mr. Freeze. But, it would had been good if Schwarzenegger's Mr. Freeze was more darker and sinister like The Terminator and Schwarzenegger's Mr. Freeze was more a anti-villain and a sympathetic character. Alicia Silverstone did a good job playing Barbara Wilson/Batgirl. However, it didn't make sense that she was Alfred's niece and she should had a British accent. But, they should had kept Batgirl as Commissioner Gordon's daughter. Uma Thurman did the best she could as Poison Ivy and with what she had to work with and she was sexy as Poison Ivy. The movie had some good action and some good CGI for it's time and I liked the end credits song "The End is the Beginning is the End" by The Smashing Pumpkins. It seems to me, Batman and Robin was a rushed production like Series 8 of Game of Thrones and it came out too soon after Batman and Forever and Warner Bros. should had left Batman and Robin for 3 - 4 years. There was things that could had been done with Batman and Robin. The franchise getting rebooted as Christopher Nolan's Dark Knight trilogy was a blessing and The Dark Knight was a massive blockbuster hit earning the late Heath Ledger an Oscar for his brilliant performance as The Joker. The 2nd reboot Batman VS. Superman: Dawn of Justice was pure shit and Justice League was no better. The upcoming 3rd Batman reboot - The Batman starring Twilight's Robert Pattinson looks really good and I think it could be the best Batman movie since The Dark Knight and hopefully better than Batman VS. Superman. I am beginning to think Batman and Robin was better than Batman VS. Superman. Batman and Robin wasn't a perfect film. But it's still entertaining despite it's problems and flaws and love it or hate it, Batman and Robin is a good movie and it's a film I come back to every now and then.
Didn't know Robin said cowabunga. I'm really trying to find things I like about this. But I was a teenager really high on Arnold Schwarzeneggar movies at the time it came out and I've still never watched this turkey
Uma Thurman’s sexiness is the only good thing about this movie. She’s soooooooooo hot in this
It's cool seeing this movie on the Awfully Good Movies series.
The only one whose career never recovered, unfortunately, is Alicia Silverstone, the one who had the last to do with this abomination. It's too bad, too. She deserved better.
I have such a soft spot for this film, mostly because of Arnold Schwarzenegger and his Ice-Puns
Bane has always been powered by Venom in the comics.
Very surprised to see me pop up at 22:26 for the vaccine joke! Great recap of the movie btw, still has plenty to like in it after 25 years.
Bro You Need An Award For This Essay Analysis.
Pure FUCKIN GOLD 🥇🪙🥇
6:09 FWIW - this movie made my life... interesting.... as I was going through boot camp in the U.S. Army. The drill sergeants had me shout lines frequently like "Ice to see you," "Cool party," and "The name is Freeze, learn it well..." Sigh. Too many one-liners for one movie.