I find it funny that while Dryya uses her fairly small nail with both hands, Ze'mer wields her absolutely massive nail as if it were as light as a feather
@@forkgodsdescendant2503 Honestly I felt like Hegemol has the best animations of the bunch. It's difficult to get something that big to move easily but it feels like his motions are rather fluid and normal.
It's not a music drop, it's an entirely new piece. If you listen at the end of phase one, the music actually cuts out. There's a pause. And the new track starts when the second phase starts.
@@troytab6089 I know! I was talking about how the second phase's track intro at 0:25 is a build up for when the big attack at 0:38 happens exactly at the drop of the intro part in the track.
IF this form of Ze'mer was actually the one that shows up in-game, I would have no doubt that she could kick Pure-Vessels butt in a one-on-one fight. She swings one of, if not the largest Nail we've ever seen around with one hand like it's a paperweight! In my personal headcannon she could have maybe even trained Pure Vessel to fight specifically with the nail in the first place.
They did a great job with this fight, but... I really really would have liked to see their take on the Pale King as a kind of Radiance-esque final boss to the pantheon.
I don't think the Pale King is a fighter in lore. He's powerful, but if he had godlike COMBAT power, then why would he need the Five Great Knights? Or armies? Or the Watcher Knights? I think, when he she'd his wyrm body and became the Pale King, he became entirely focused on leadership, not combat.
Some tips: If you hang to the wall at the beginning of each phase you can avoid the first 2 attacks. You can parry zemer’s sword shield to not take damage at the part in which it encircles her. After zemer does the vertical moving strike attack you have to shadow dash through, she will always do her sword throw or forward dash. Forward dash is always telegraphed by a “demos” from the boss Any other tips? I am REALLY struggling with this boss.
She always dashes after the first big slash but can do any move after the second, unless she does two big slashes rapidly, in which case the dash comes after the second. The telegraph between a dash and leap is very similar so I usually jump and try to parry the leap (not always successfully, but I'm reasonably consistent). Anytime she does a dive attack she's going to dash but it might be the rapid 5-6 dashes move (I generally just assume she's always going to do it). In late P2/P3 after a sword throw she often does the smaller slash beam move, so generally do 1-2 hits and double jump the beam (single jump doesn't get enough height). There's probably more but that's what I remember right away. Good luck with the fight!
I noticed that the telegraph for the dash and the leap were almost identical, but for the leap, she says a voice line before she does it, and for the dash, she says "demos" after she does it.
She's really quick but there are tells for attacks and some of the braver folks parried even more attacks than I did. I made a ton of mistakes learning the fight but once things start clicking you start seeing how to react and get some hits off.
There was a moment, when just one parry covered THREE hits in a row. An incredibly short row. That's both impressive and scary because of how incredibly fast she is...
I thought the final boss would be the pale king not a harder zemer but it's fine Imagine if after beating zemer in the pantheon tiso appear as the true final boss
Keep in mind the first time I fought her I did die and then practiced attuned until I could consistently win. My CC clear only took a few tries but I had practiced the overworld fights until I got a radiant/nail only win on them as well.
@@CrankyTemplar To be fair I can't imagine anyone finishing it first try and would be surprised if anyone could. That's also the same approach Fireb0rne took but on the first difficulty. (I think attuned was double damage) I can't imagine my self taking any less than 5h on that boss for normal difficulty...
Personally I think not. Despite her flashy attack sequence after her stagger, at least it always stays in that pattern. Which says alot compared to Absrad RNG orb spam
@@TheBoringSinister honestly I think that's just a personal thing. If you're still struggling with the orbs in Absrad, then you really haven't mastered the fight yet.
I tried to beat them but....this is too absurd for me somehow. Always getting hit at every corner. Sure im good at hollow knight but i feel this is like fighting any radiance
Ze’mer has many great mysteries Where did she come from What is the origin of the white flower How the fuck are you supposed to dodge/read any of her attacks
What do you think, have the dreams, powered by her grief made her THAT strong, or is she really that fucking strong in the real world. Either way, she could've easily obliterated the radiance, if only it was possible to take her to the fight
I still appreciate all the insane work that went into this fight, but i definitely think a duet battle with the traitor's child would have been better than whatever this anime BS is, i do like the teleporting as it references the teleporting abilites of the delicate flower, but for some reason the animations make it seem like the nail is granting the teleportation. Also some of the visual effects are extremely dissorienting and hard on the eyes. Still miles ahead of all the other "hard modded boss purely for the sake of hard modded boss" mods Also i haven't actually played this mod since i dont have a computer so maybe im not in a place to give criticism.
I didn't keep count, but I definitely replayed ascended (and died quite a bit) until I felt radiant was possible. Then I died a lot more to many stupid mistakes.
This was the only fight of the Champions I genuinely did NOT enjoy… its pretty much impossible to beat with skill alone and relies on muscle memory, some of the attacks (especially the one kicking off the phase 2) are BORDERLINE unreactable on a first attempt and require repetitive knowledge to avoid them This is the kind of thing that would have been amazing for a small desperation phase (especially with how easy the actual fight is) but its not, literally 80% of the fight is just aoes moving at godspeed
She will and can kill but what she had a voice like characters in hollowness vocalize because do I need to say anything out but I'm not excited to have to fight her what the hell she is literally popping off
Champion's Call should be attuned difficulty. I took hits from being sloppy, as for example Hegemol's charge still takes me by surprise more than I'd like to admit.
@@CrankyTemplar Oh, that makes sense. I guess doing a hittless fight once doesn’t necessarily mean you can do it consistently, especially since it hasn’t even been like a week since Pale Court came out…
I find it funny that while Dryya uses her fairly small nail with both hands, Ze'mer wields her absolutely massive nail as if it were as light as a feather
You know there’s a thing called different fighting styles
Aside from some of the ways the assets move, I couldn't even tell this was fanmade and not and official DLC! well done to everyone who worked on this!
Just curious, which assets? Do you have a timestamp for em?
@@rcrobot7655all of them
@@rcrobot7655all of them. They have a slight stiffness to them that in-game sprites don't have.
@@randomnerd4211 Very noticeable on Drya, also Hegemol but not as bad
Isma and Zhmer are really good
@@forkgodsdescendant2503 Honestly I felt like Hegemol has the best animations of the bunch. It's difficult to get something that big to move easily but it feels like his motions are rather fluid and normal.
Fighting Ze'mer in the Dreams: That is all? I've been expecting more.
Fighting Ze'mer in the Pantheon: Help me...
It's because she's so strong that you can only beat her in your dreams
This is giving some serious “I am Malenia, blade of Miquella” Vibes
fr 😮
She’s so fast that she made a forced field that could protect her and harm us at the same time
I saw that second phase, mostly with her flying around like crazy, and I immediately thought "Wtf???"
2:35 I want to take a minute to appreciate the most incredible save I've ever seen. Shade dash came back up the FRAME you needed it to
Well, somebody had fun animating Ze'mer.
I like how the second phase's intro is definitely made to be in sync with the music drop
It's not a music drop, it's an entirely new piece. If you listen at the end of phase one, the music actually cuts out. There's a pause. And the new track starts when the second phase starts.
@@troytab6089 I know! I was talking about how the second phase's track intro at 0:25 is a build up for when the big attack at 0:38 happens exactly at the drop of the intro part in the track.
IF this form of Ze'mer was actually the one that shows up in-game, I would have no doubt that she could kick Pure-Vessels butt in a one-on-one fight. She swings one of, if not the largest Nail we've ever seen around with one hand like it's a paperweight! In my personal headcannon she could have maybe even trained Pure Vessel to fight specifically with the nail in the first place.
Nah, Sly's nail is objectively the biggest in Hollow Knight
Tbf Sly's size is also objectively the smallest of all nail weilder@@N_Tertainment7
I also think, that both Dryya and Ze'mer have trained him, because he has moves and attacks that resemble their fighting styles a lot
If Ze'mer was this strong in her prime then I can only shudder at how strong the Traitor Lord could have been in his prime.
He messed up trying to take in that infection
They did a great job with this fight, but... I really really would have liked to see their take on the Pale King as a kind of Radiance-esque final boss to the pantheon.
I don't think the Pale King is a fighter in lore.
He's powerful, but if he had godlike COMBAT power, then why would he need the Five Great Knights? Or armies? Or the Watcher Knights?
I think, when he she'd his wyrm body and became the Pale King, he became entirely focused on leadership, not combat.
Lore accurate delicate flower power
Would be funny if Ze’mer was only this string against you because you were void and her association with the flower gave her a buff
Some tips:
If you hang to the wall at the beginning of each phase you can avoid the first 2 attacks.
You can parry zemer’s sword shield to not take damage at the part in which it encircles her.
After zemer does the vertical moving strike attack you have to shadow dash through, she will always do her sword throw or forward dash.
Forward dash is always telegraphed by a “demos” from the boss
Any other tips? I am REALLY struggling with this boss.
She always dashes after the first big slash but can do any move after the second, unless she does two big slashes rapidly, in which case the dash comes after the second. The telegraph between a dash and leap is very similar so I usually jump and try to parry the leap (not always successfully, but I'm reasonably consistent).
Anytime she does a dive attack she's going to dash but it might be the rapid 5-6 dashes move (I generally just assume she's always going to do it).
In late P2/P3 after a sword throw she often does the smaller slash beam move, so generally do 1-2 hits and double jump the beam (single jump doesn't get enough height).
There's probably more but that's what I remember right away. Good luck with the fight!
I noticed that the telegraph for the dash and the leap were almost identical, but for the leap, she says a voice line before she does it, and for the dash, she says "demos" after she does it.
if she does the sword swing thing and moves she will do the big vertical sword attack towards u if u are infront of her
the tips is, try over and over until you pass it
How much attack is she doing in like 5 seconds? I'm honestly surprised you did this no hit.
She's really quick but there are tells for attacks and some of the braver folks parried even more attacks than I did. I made a ton of mistakes learning the fight but once things start clicking you start seeing how to react and get some hits off.
@@CrankyTemplardoesnt she also make certain battle cries for certain attacks?
There was a moment, when just one parry covered THREE hits in a row. An incredibly short row. That's both impressive and scary because of how incredibly fast she is...
I thought the final boss would be the pale king not a harder zemer but it's fine
Imagine if after beating zemer in the pantheon tiso appear as the true final boss
0:18 beast mode actived.
Ze'mer is really angry at you for ruining her delicate flowers
impressive as always! good job and congratulations to you and the pale court team o7
idk why but i really love an especific animation of this boss
Yeah well, Mysterious Ze'mer was already strong enough by my standards. I don't know how I'll ever reach/beat this thing.
mom can we have malenia blade of miquella
"we have malenia at home"
malenia at home: 0:38
To quote Lythero, "The Ultimate Power! L E S B I A N S!"
she may seem unpredictable, but i think thats an illusion, she actually only have very few similar "combos" so you can pretty much study all the fight
Feel like this boss might've deserved a full screen title
When you break too many delicate flowers:
pale court is so well made man
Seeing those moved made me feel like im going to hear "I am Malenia, Blade Of Miquella" yet again lmao
I love your Geo count
And that was a great gameplay
Excellent work as always sir!
Certainly the most powerful out of the five.
Dra stenjo sounds like a reference to the nail smith
Answering the Champion's call
TF!!!, Ze'mer does not mess around!!
It's payback for all the broken flowers. Her supply of flowers may be infinite but her patience isn't.
if u want a funny charm build to test for radiant nail only, u could use jonis blessing, quick slash, strength and the new void artifact.
I guess its hard to find an opening for dream nail
The safest time is at the start of the fight. Otherwise you probably can dream nail after a sword throw.
Bug Malenia 😮
I knew he could do Le Mayo hitless when it didn't completely murder him like Fireb0rne.
Keep in mind the first time I fought her I did die and then practiced attuned until I could consistently win. My CC clear only took a few tries but I had practiced the overworld fights until I got a radiant/nail only win on them as well.
@@CrankyTemplar To be fair I can't imagine anyone finishing it first try and would be surprised if anyone could. That's also the same approach Fireb0rne took but on the first difficulty. (I think attuned was double damage)
I can't imagine my self taking any less than 5h on that boss for normal difficulty...
@@fireblaze8491 Ascended is double damage
@@Ascera_exists Oh thanks
So rad is one shot
Ascended is double
And attuned is normal, I haven't tried godhome in about a year
@@fireblaze8491 You got that right, and fair enough
Cool video. I am also planning on fighting this boss on Radiant but I think that’s going to take a lot longer that how long it took you lol. gg btw
It took a while but I finally got around to doing this (I forgot to do it before but better late than never)
Crazy but an elegent fighter
She gives off some vibes from Claymore too.
This looks like a fun fight I may have to fire up my pc (it’s been a long while) and attempt this..
She’s hella strong.
NKG who? Pure Vessel who? Mystic Zemer solos in difficulty
ngl this kinda shows how big her attack hitbox is and thus how often you actually end up with parries lol
Is nobody gonna talk about how she/he has 69420 geo
This looks harder than Absrad
Personally I think not. Despite her flashy attack sequence after her stagger, at least it always stays in that pattern. Which says alot compared to Absrad RNG orb spam
@@TheBoringSinister honestly I think that's just a personal thing.
If you're still struggling with the orbs in Absrad, then you really haven't mastered the fight yet.
How much more difficult is it than Pure Vessel, KNG and Absolute Radiance?
Notably harder than base game challenges. Not the hardest modded boss, of course, but still a good challenge.
@@CrankyTemplarwhat's the hardest modded boss?
@@user-vp9ry3km2cmost of the reskins honestly
@@user-vp9ry3km2c Any Radiance 3.0
my favorite part of this fight was when ze'mer became vergil from the hit game devil may cry 5 (2019)
first reaction: *experiencing thanos snap*
now: Dude its all good, just dont get any damage and thats easy
Damn I wanna fight this boss
Really grinded for that "69420" Geo did you?
I tried to beat them but....this is too absurd for me somehow. Always getting hit at every corner. Sure im good at hollow knight but i feel this is like fighting any radiance
amazing
Fr he gamed
damn sick work!
When you challenge a French depressed lesbian:
Nice amount of geo you have there.
Ze’mer has many great mysteries
Where did she come from
What is the origin of the white flower
How the fuck are you supposed to dodge/read any of her attacks
Is this the final content of the mod already, Cranky?
This is more or less the final boss. It's definitely the hardest of them.
W
Ok we have garava but now “tatsmasimero” and “temos”
Majestic
lovely.
how to fight second phase's?
Is this just hornet on steroids?
can we play this DLC if we are on PS4
This is PC only.
Only a bit harder then Hornet 1 :P
Slightly more challenging. I suppose I should update the description.
What do you think, have the dreams, powered by her grief made her THAT strong, or is she really that fucking strong in the real world. Either way, she could've easily obliterated the radiance, if only it was possible to take her to the fight
I still appreciate all the insane work that went into this fight, but i definitely think a duet battle with the traitor's child would have been better than whatever this anime BS is, i do like the teleporting as it references the teleporting abilites of the delicate flower, but for some reason the animations make it seem like the nail is granting the teleportation. Also some of the visual effects are extremely dissorienting and hard on the eyes.
Still miles ahead of all the other "hard modded boss purely for the sake of hard modded boss" mods
Also i haven't actually played this mod since i dont have a computer so maybe im not in a place to give criticism.
😮😮But how I played it I found these creatures
If it's not a secret, how many attempts did it take?
I didn't keep count, but I definitely replayed ascended (and died quite a bit) until I felt radiant was possible. Then I died a lot more to many stupid mistakes.
This was the only fight of the Champions I genuinely did NOT enjoy… its pretty much impossible to beat with skill alone and relies on muscle memory, some of the attacks (especially the one kicking off the phase 2) are BORDERLINE unreactable on a first attempt and require repetitive knowledge to avoid them
This is the kind of thing that would have been amazing for a small desperation phase (especially with how easy the actual fight is) but its not, literally 80% of the fight is just aoes moving at godspeed
She will and can kill but what she had a voice like characters in hollowness vocalize because do I need to say anything out but I'm not excited to have to fight her what the hell she is literally popping off
Bro havent ever used spells
Spells? What are those?
I was wondering why you were taking hits in the Champion’s Call, but if they were all Ascended difficulty…
Champion's Call should be attuned difficulty. I took hits from being sloppy, as for example Hegemol's charge still takes me by surprise more than I'd like to admit.
@@CrankyTemplar Oh, that makes sense. I guess doing a hittless fight once doesn’t necessarily mean you can do it consistently, especially since it hasn’t even been like a week since Pale Court came out…
this doesnt even feel like a hollow knight boss
this people, is not how to desing a boss
your taste is horrid then
Der’mo is crap in Russian