I do sympathize with Mr Vijay K. because he is not of engineering mind and therefore I would like to recommend remedial classes to him on railway technology
Brother,,, A Infra project is not only about engineering,, it also need to take into consideration Economics, Social impact, environment... the Chinese in the name of low cost have started dumping Substandard infra in African Countries..but billing it at almost the rates a German company would do... this they achieve by giving loans,,, but the repay amount is never revealed.. its the deal they make with local politicians...at the end the common public will end up paying higher ticket rates,, your tax money is used for repayment...for the substandard infra,, and above all you are giving them a free access (transport) to Chinese goods to enter your country..this will in long run crush your local industry...one example ..in this rail project how many Kenyans were employed compared to Chinese labourers .. how many Kenyan company got contracts compared to Chinese...and regarding my question on class1 and 2 sgr .. it was sarcasm, as everything Chinese is substandard and lol they has class differentiation...10 years down the line you will understand the mistake of letting these Chinese in your soil... beware!!!!!
That's pretty funny, last time I checked, India is not even a fully industrialized country, please talk less in English (which brits taught you), and work hard for this country.
By working toghther with China, in near furture Kenya and Ethiopia will be far richer and far more developed, far more advance than India. That will be the proof. When Indians see that happen, they should wake up and realised their mistake. British had fucked up India and she can never wake up ever since.
@@vijayk9472 Bro who told you Chinese products are substandard? If you want good quality you can get if you want cheaper quality you can still get in China i have seen some of their trains and i can assure you they are very good and comfortable infact we need such for Malaba to Kampala
The railway, which China helped build, hired a large number of local people, which means that a large number of skilled engineers and skilled workers have been trained. This will play an important role in the development of Kenya in the coming decades. Jealous westerners, what do they do in Africa
5:37 First guy that actually knew what he was talking about. Railroads are good when there is a supplier needing to get bulk materials to market. Without that, it's pointless to build. The down side to this is when the railroad is complete, there will be a lot of truck drivers out of jobs resulting in a local economic crash. The bigger players will make money, but unless there is a larger labor demand than what will be replaced, this is going to be bad for local Kenyans in the long run. The big question is how much food and raw materials will China start buying from the interior of Africa after the road is completed?
Very informative. But could Kenya Railways upload the feature in full? It cuts off when an interviewee is talking. All the same kudos. This is the type of information we need not political rumbling.
This is slowest new standard gauge freight/passenger railway in the world! The railroad achieves its good connection times by carrying a high average speed, but its maximum speed is below other railroad roads of similar types around the world. It is not built to be a fast railway, but a prompt railway with excellent long term reliable freight and passenger service. The railroad also has a vertical alignment that stands substantially higher or lower than the surrounding land. This places the trains out of the normal space people would be in, besides people in this area would be trespassing on railroad real estate. For most animals the railway would seem less of a danger than a busy roadway. In promotional videos it shows very long bridges where embankments aren't used going through the Park to allow animals and possibly flood waters to pass under. This allows for large animals to pass under the railway. By going through the Park in a mostly elevated location the passenger train service affectively has a mini safari. This makes up for the slow speed because people come to see the Park even if they've seen it many times before. This entertainment key feature provides customer satisfaction that a steady 120 kph and large windows does so in good fashion. Whereas a new modern passenger railroad line needs to be elevating towards 400 kph speeds to be considered something special.
They had thought about that long before you commented. See the documentary of this construction for yourself and you'll learn what they did with regards to what you said.
I guess the main economic gain is freight, but why invest so heavily in passager trains, prestigious terminal buildings and modern rail when the train only does 120 km/h?
Total 56 CRRC-made locomotives, all diesel-electric type, including 43 Model DF8B for freight service, 3100kW 5 Model DF11 for passenger service, 3040kW 8 Model DF7G for in-station use, 2200kW Manufacturer: Qishuyan Locomotive Company Ltd., a subsidiary of CRRC (www.crrcgc.cc/en) All 100% made in China, with no imported parts at all. Certain improvements made to suit Kenya's tropical highland weather. For model details, see this page: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_locomotives_in_China
it's a much larger load (take much more people and freight per day. ) which should remove a lot of bus and trucks from the road (or at least push them to different routes spreading out the traffic. ) the freight aspect especially could be really huge.
+Richard Chen The current "old" narrow guage rail network was not operating at capacity, and the the "can carry freight, taking it off the roads" would apply equally to the old network as well as the new ... why was a new network needed and not an upgrade or improvement on the existing line? why now?
An old track and train belongs to Kenya by retrieving an independent from British colonial we kenyans won't agree British to grab it from Kenya maybe we can hand it by our wish after paying the depth of SGR to China
I have said it before..I will say it again..2 major problems will be encountered from word go...number 1. DELAYS..bringing in outdated Chinese locomotives, that have not even had a track record in the tropical climate is reckless. NUMBER 2..there will be the inevitable accidents scenario..the so called "control center" and what is taking place on the ground will not be in sync..I hope Iam wrong, but that's how I see things unfolding.
mr/ms Ho..EXACTLY my point..a maiden voyage should EXCEED expectations....because we all know that things are not going to get BETTER but WORSE...it is a law of nature..things always decline downwards, so if we celebrate the fact that it took some 5 hours to reach Nairobi..things will spiral downwards..at the end of THIS year it will be at 7 hours ;SA to NRB
7 months later, it is still working like brand new and the average utilization rates in 92%. When an African country like Kenya progresses forward in terms of infrastructure, there are many people who will not be happy because they wish the African countries remain shitholes to bolster their own ego.
why the hell are you spending 3.5 billion$ on 450 kms single track railway which has a maximum speed of 120 kmph? even if it has such long bridges. indian railways which can hit maximum speed of 160 kmph on some routes and 130 to 150 kmph on most of the sections takes 20 to 30 crore rupees per kilometer for at grade and upto 250 crore per km for elevated (thats the maximum it can get), dedicated freight corridor under construction in india cost 35 crore rupees for km ( almost 10 million dollars) and its two lane and electrified capable of transporting freight at a speed of 100 kmph average. it costs 2 billion $ for a 450 kms railway with a double track. Labour costs are much less in africa or at least on par with india. standard gauge is narrower than broad gauge used in india. Im sorry to say, but the Chinese are ripping you off. so you are basically paying almost 2 to 4 times the actual cost it takes to construct. Dont say the technology is superior, its not. you are not getting a high-speed train. Please make sure your politicians are not spending too much for too little. ethiopeans got a better deal than kenyans. be vigilant
HO Pw - Replying to you ,, about CPEC ..Can you or Chinese Government or Pakistan Government show the details of Financial liabilities Pakistan has to take up in future, whats the profit sharing in the Gwadar port, No Financial details is given to press, listen to Pakisani press they are fuming that their land and resources are being mortgaged by Nawaz Shariff family for few sub standard Infra projects... one example - The solar power from CPEC sponsored Solar Plants is 0.12 USD per unit (add the Unknown interest on the Investment that Pakistan has to repay),,, while in india we are selling solar power at 0.05 per unit... There are lot of examples like this in a scam named CPEC ,,, and you want us to be a part of it...
would it still cost 20-30 crore rupees if you need to do it in Africa instead of India though? Also, we should note that the cost includes train stations and locomotives etc all purchase, where as in India probably the cost is not considering new locomotives since you already have them.
You are simply playing a guessing game. Why should Pakistan trade with India when India constantly call Pakistan a terrorist nation? India experience only one terrorist attack and that was in Mumbai. Pakistan have experienced countless attacks by terrorists and yet you Indians said Pakistan support terrorists. It is a fact that India play host to the terrorist leader Dalai Lama. Since you want to talk about corruption, let us start talking about corruptions in your own backyard? Many Indians working in my country said they are sad corruptions in India is everywhere, is it true or false?
Replying to Ho Pw- I really pity you.. you think of china 20 years back were no real news came out of China,,, lot of news that chinese dont want the word to read or hear is out in Internet.. I agree we have corruption but what about China .. here look at some articles..www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-37748241 www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/china-corruption_us_58c866b2e4b01c029d7731ea We are discussing about Chinese scam in SGR Kenya, why bring in Dalai Lama and Terrorism,,, and to your knowledge we clearly said we don't want to be a part of CPEC,, but China is repeatedly requesting us to join it and even said that they are ready to change the Name of CPEC by removing Pakistan name from it...... Ho Pw, Pakistan has welcomed china with open hands and put all its resources at Chinese disposal ,,, but Chinese are ready to back stab Pakistan, just because if India is in the project the Business will be unprecedentedly high because of Indian Economic might .. for china money matters not friends... timesofindia.indiatimes.com/world/china/china-offers-to-rename-china-pakistan-economic-corridor/articleshow/58579112.cms
What is the difference between Class1 and Class2 SGR??? By the way Kenya must have gone for a double track for the cost you have paid,, Please see the Indians here.. we just get toys from the Chinese. Engineering it should be from Germans , rock solid products at correct price, all our Metro Rails have German technology or Japanese. Kenyans will understand the mistake only after 5 years when the products start to deteriorate at the same speed it was built. One example.. have you ever seen UAE or saudis asking the Chinese to build any strategic infrastructure ,,, nope cause they have money and go for the best quality. I thought Kenya Nigeria are developing on the right path but sorry to say that you are becoming a neo-age colony of China ,, I cant comment any more
Vijayaseelan K Comparing Indian and Chinese railway???? .... what a cruel joke by an Indian.. Indian railway beats china and the rest of the world by number of people died on rail tracks each year.. just Mumbai alone has 3000 deaths every year on railway tracks..and specialized untouchables have to be employed to collect the bodies.. seen Indian rail trains so full of people they are like circus..just sad and pathetic... Saudi no Chinese rail? Google Saudi light rail..you can't even tell the difference between class I and class II SGR..seen all those elevated tracks on bridges thru national park?.. of course it will cost more.. but worth it for the protection of the park...
Peter , checked regarding the light railway ,, just 18 km track wow ,, that is really a very strategic infra project!!!!lol!,,and with so many issues in the operation,, apart from that ,,, the Kenyans are already fuming at the high cost they are paying for the single track non electrified railway ,, and for a below par quality product Chinese are famous for ...
Vijayaseelan K Checked again, felt my tone was a bit harsh, sorry for that. The specifications of the project are decided by the Kenyan side, nothing to do with Chinese contractors. Cost/quality, again, google World Bank report, the Chinese contractors are better, at least in Africa, compared with other similar projects in Africa, analyzed by World Bank experts.
peter wang, people die on Indian railways true, but that doesn't make Chinese railway technology any better, they have good high-speed infrastructure, no one disagrees with that, but are they building you high speed railway? no its just a normal standard gauge railway, Indian railways can hit 160 kmph, with specialised carriages it's been tested at 200 kmph. and we built that infrastructure for less than a quarter of what you are spending on this project. And about too many people travelling on some trains you have seen are those travelling through heavily populated northern regions, because people in india depend on trains more than chinese. becasue its cheap to travel on rail, and its not going to be the case with the train your govt is constructing now. It costs 3 to 6 million dollars to construct a double tracked railway that can hit 160 kmph in india at current costs. you govt is spending nearly 8 million on a single track railway that has a maximum operational speed of 120 kmph. Whats the point of having so-called "superior technology" when you get a relatively slower train and you pay 2 times more for a single track against the double track. Thats what british did in india during colonial era, It costed double to build same track in india compared to canada or australia at the same time. So what he said is point on. Its better to invest in country's infra but spending limited resources on fancy over kills is just point less, i think ethiopia got a better deal than kenya. And its point less to argue technicalities with a person who abuses people for pointing out truth.
+Vijay K +Raghunandan Reddy C You guys think Kenyan government is stupid, hasn't not done their homework or something? Such a major national project must have gone through a long process of evaluation by experts, including third-party ones, usually from some Western consulting firms. Kenyan government has to balance speed for passenger travel and load requirement for freight transport when building the rail. So it's not faster is always better. By the way, since India is so much superior in rail building and also cares Africa so much, why don't your government just offer a better deal, instead of just badmouthing Kenyan and Chinese here?
I was honored to participate to move the equipment from china to Mombasa port...let work go on...truly africa Is moving forward
Buzz Moor I have a feeling that Kenya and Ethiopia is going to be a major player on the world's stage 20 years from now.
West: Africa, the land without hope。
China: Africa, land full of hope。
I do sympathize with Mr Vijay K. because he is not of engineering mind and therefore I would like to recommend remedial classes to him on railway technology
Brother,,, A Infra project is not only about engineering,, it also need to take into consideration Economics, Social impact, environment... the Chinese in the name of low cost have started dumping Substandard infra in African Countries..but billing it at almost the rates a German company would do... this they achieve by giving loans,,, but the repay amount is never revealed.. its the deal they make with local politicians...at the end the common public will end up paying higher ticket rates,, your tax money is used for repayment...for the substandard infra,, and above all you are giving them a free access (transport) to Chinese goods to enter your country..this will in long run crush your local industry...one example ..in this rail project how many Kenyans were employed compared to Chinese labourers .. how many Kenyan company got contracts compared to Chinese...and regarding my question on class1 and 2 sgr .. it was sarcasm, as everything Chinese is substandard and lol they has class differentiation...10 years down the line you will understand the mistake of letting these Chinese in your soil... beware!!!!!
That's pretty funny, last time I checked, India is not even a fully industrialized country, please talk less in English (which brits taught you), and work hard for this country.
By working toghther with China, in near furture Kenya and Ethiopia will be far richer and far more developed, far more advance than India.
That will be the proof. When Indians see that happen, they should wake up and realised their mistake.
British had fucked up India and she can never wake up ever since.
@@vijayk9472 Bro who told you Chinese products are substandard? If you want good quality you can get if you want cheaper quality you can still get in China i have seen some of their trains and i can assure you they are very good and comfortable infact we need such for Malaba to Kampala
@@iandiru6433 if the infra projects are based on debt model the quality is not good standard
Many builders are locals
Work well done. Thanks for committed group
Well done kenya!
The railway, which China helped build, hired a large number of local people, which means that a large number of skilled engineers and skilled workers have been trained. This will play an important role in the development of Kenya in the coming decades. Jealous westerners, what do they do in Africa
Its still a dream to many even more developed and rich nations then Kenya so its feels good to live in a dream of many
In 2021 and a lot has happened on the issues raised
5:37 First guy that actually knew what he was talking about. Railroads are good when there is a supplier needing to get bulk materials to market. Without that, it's pointless to build. The down side to this is when the railroad is complete, there will be a lot of truck drivers out of jobs resulting in a local economic crash. The bigger players will make money, but unless there is a larger labor demand than what will be replaced, this is going to be bad for local Kenyans in the long run. The big question is how much food and raw materials will China start buying from the interior of Africa after the road is completed?
But for Malaba am meant to understand is the lunatic express that is to be used😎
Very informative. But could Kenya Railways upload the feature in full? It cuts off when an interviewee is talking. All the same kudos. This is the type of information we need not political rumbling.
Mr president. this one ni VAKO... Umetu enjoy aki.
Way to go Kenya. But expect a lot of casualties. High speed plus a lot of pedestrians and animals. It comes with the territory.
This is slowest new standard gauge freight/passenger railway in the world! The railroad achieves its good connection times by carrying a high average speed, but its maximum speed is below other railroad roads of similar types around the world. It is not built to be a fast railway, but a prompt railway with excellent long term reliable freight and passenger service.
The railroad also has a vertical alignment that stands substantially higher or lower than the surrounding land. This places the trains out of the normal space people would be in, besides people in this area would be trespassing on railroad real estate. For most animals the railway would seem less of a danger than a busy roadway.
In promotional videos it shows very long bridges where embankments aren't used going through the Park to allow animals and possibly flood waters to pass under. This allows for large animals to pass under the railway.
By going through the Park in a mostly elevated location the passenger train service affectively has a mini safari. This makes up for the slow speed because people come to see the Park even if they've seen it many times before. This entertainment key feature provides customer satisfaction that a steady 120 kph and large windows does so in good fashion. Whereas a new modern passenger railroad line needs to be elevating towards 400 kph speeds to be considered something special.
They had thought about that long before you commented. See the documentary of this construction for yourself and you'll learn what they did with regards to what you said.
this is looking great i will soon visite this country
I guess the main economic gain is freight, but why invest so heavily in passager trains, prestigious terminal buildings and modern rail when the train only does 120 km/h?
Its better than nothing at all
No one wanted to tell us the train models were going to receive??
astOnv8, Who cares! As long as it can travel in less than 4+ hours compare to the more than 15 hours outdated model build by India and Germany.
Total 56 CRRC-made locomotives, all diesel-electric type, including
43 Model DF8B for freight service, 3100kW
5 Model DF11 for passenger service, 3040kW
8 Model DF7G for in-station use, 2200kW
Manufacturer: Qishuyan Locomotive Company Ltd., a subsidiary of CRRC (www.crrcgc.cc/en)
All 100% made in China, with no imported parts at all.
Certain improvements made to suit Kenya's tropical highland weather.
For model details, see this page: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_locomotives_in_China
Think this rail is running already. It’s here riding on it.
How will SGR save our roads in a way that the existing rail network was unable to?
it's a much larger load (take much more people and freight per day. ) which should remove a lot of bus and trucks from the road (or at least push them to different routes spreading out the traffic. ) the freight aspect especially could be really huge.
+Richard Chen The current "old" narrow guage rail network was not operating at capacity, and the the "can carry freight, taking it off the roads" would apply equally to the old network as well as the new ... why was a new network needed and not an upgrade or improvement on the existing line? why now?
You obviously know fuck all about railways.
@min 4:46 get the order of the colours of our (Kenyan) national flag right!!
has anyone noticed something similar in 99% of the speakers?a trying to remain positive and optimistic tho
8:51 i saw a tanzanian t-shirt hahaha ,dont mind me just passing through.
Danny john
Tanzania, Kenya, Rwanda, Burundi, Uganda; South Sudan and DR Congo; we are one people.
An old track and train belongs to Kenya by retrieving an independent from British colonial we kenyans won't agree British to grab it from Kenya maybe we can hand it by our wish after paying the depth of SGR to China
Is Kenya Railways a company incorporated and run by Kiambu County? Where's the diversity of a public company such as KR?
George Mayienga Yes it is
Now, hit the roads and start throwing projectiles at motorists 😘
I have said it before..I will say it again..2 major problems will be encountered from word go...number 1. DELAYS..bringing in outdated Chinese locomotives, that have not even had a track record in the tropical climate is reckless. NUMBER 2..there will be the inevitable accidents scenario..the so called "control center" and what is taking place on the ground will not be in sync..I hope Iam wrong, but that's how I see things unfolding.
u r wrong
I sincerely hope so
The first train have arrive in Nairobi from Mombasa in less than 5 hours.
mr/ms Ho..EXACTLY my point..a maiden voyage should EXCEED expectations....because we all know that things are not going to get BETTER but WORSE...it is a law of nature..things always decline downwards, so if we celebrate the fact that it took some 5 hours to reach Nairobi..things will spiral downwards..at the end of THIS year it will be at 7 hours ;SA to NRB
7 months later, it is still working like brand new and the average utilization rates in 92%. When an African country like Kenya progresses forward in terms of infrastructure, there are many people who will not be happy because they wish the African countries remain shitholes to bolster their own ego.
U need to fix ir security system and make it more efficient and user friendly. All these videos r very misleading. Come on kenya u can do better.
DISAPPOINTMENT! FUCKING DISAPPOINTMENT EVERYWHERE!!! SMH!!!!!
*disappointment to see* Spell check dude, look it up.
why the hell are you spending 3.5 billion$ on 450 kms single track railway which has a maximum speed of 120 kmph? even if it has such long bridges. indian railways which can hit maximum speed of 160 kmph on some routes and 130 to 150 kmph on most of the sections takes 20 to 30 crore rupees per kilometer for at grade and upto 250 crore per km for elevated (thats the maximum it can get), dedicated freight corridor under construction in india cost 35 crore rupees for km ( almost 10 million dollars) and its two lane and electrified capable of transporting freight at a speed of 100 kmph average. it costs 2 billion $ for a 450 kms railway with a double track.
Labour costs are much less in africa or at least on par with india. standard gauge is narrower than broad gauge used in india. Im sorry to say, but the Chinese are ripping you off. so you are basically paying almost 2 to 4 times the actual cost it takes to construct. Dont say the technology is superior, its not. you are not getting a high-speed train. Please make sure your politicians are not spending too much for too little. ethiopeans got a better deal than kenyans. be vigilant
Yes Kenyans be vigilant. They may be black too but they think and behave like the whites. They also opposed the China Pakistan Economic Corridor too.
HO Pw - Replying to you ,, about CPEC ..Can you or Chinese Government or Pakistan Government show the details of Financial liabilities Pakistan has to take up in future, whats the profit sharing in the Gwadar port, No Financial details is given to press, listen to Pakisani press they are fuming that their land and resources are being mortgaged by Nawaz Shariff family for few sub standard Infra projects... one example - The solar power from CPEC sponsored Solar Plants is 0.12 USD per unit (add the Unknown interest on the Investment that Pakistan has to repay),,, while in india we are selling solar power at 0.05 per unit... There are lot of examples like this in a scam named CPEC ,,, and you want us to be a part of it...
would it still cost 20-30 crore rupees if you need to do it in Africa instead of India though?
Also, we should note that the cost includes train stations and locomotives etc all purchase, where as in India probably the cost is not considering new locomotives since you already have them.
You are simply playing a guessing game. Why should Pakistan trade with India when India constantly call Pakistan a terrorist nation? India experience only one terrorist attack and that was in Mumbai. Pakistan have experienced countless attacks by terrorists and yet you Indians said Pakistan support terrorists. It is a fact that India play host to the terrorist leader Dalai Lama. Since you want to talk about corruption, let us start talking about corruptions in your own backyard? Many Indians working in my country said they are sad corruptions in India is everywhere, is it true or false?
Replying to Ho Pw- I really pity you.. you think of china 20 years back were no real news came out of China,,, lot of news that chinese dont want the word to read or hear is out in Internet.. I agree we have corruption but what about China .. here look at some articles..www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-37748241
www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/china-corruption_us_58c866b2e4b01c029d7731ea
We are discussing about Chinese scam in SGR Kenya, why bring in Dalai Lama and Terrorism,,, and to your knowledge we clearly said we don't want to be a part of CPEC,, but China is repeatedly requesting us to join it and even said that they are ready to change the Name of CPEC by removing Pakistan name from it...... Ho Pw, Pakistan has welcomed china with open hands and put all its resources at Chinese disposal ,,, but Chinese are ready to back stab Pakistan, just because if India is in the project the Business will be unprecedentedly high because of Indian Economic might .. for china money matters not friends... timesofindia.indiatimes.com/world/china/china-offers-to-rename-china-pakistan-economic-corridor/articleshow/58579112.cms
What is the difference between Class1 and Class2 SGR??? By the way Kenya must have gone for a double track for the cost you have paid,, Please see the Indians here.. we just get toys from the Chinese. Engineering it should be from Germans , rock solid products at correct price, all our Metro Rails have German technology or Japanese. Kenyans will understand the mistake only after 5 years when the products start to deteriorate at the same speed it was built. One example.. have you ever seen UAE or saudis asking the Chinese to build any strategic infrastructure ,,, nope cause they have money and go for the best quality. I thought Kenya Nigeria are developing on the right path but sorry to say that you are becoming a neo-age colony of China ,, I cant comment any more
Vijayaseelan K
Comparing Indian and Chinese railway???? .... what a cruel joke by an Indian.. Indian railway beats china and the rest of the world by number of people died on rail tracks each year.. just Mumbai alone has 3000 deaths every year on railway tracks..and specialized untouchables have to be employed to collect the bodies.. seen Indian rail trains so full of people they are like circus..just sad and pathetic...
Saudi no Chinese rail? Google Saudi light rail..you can't even tell the difference between class I and class II SGR..seen all those elevated tracks on bridges thru national park?.. of course it will cost more.. but worth it for the protection of the park...
Peter , checked regarding the light railway ,, just 18 km track wow ,, that is really a very strategic infra project!!!!lol!,,and with so many issues in the operation,, apart from that ,,, the Kenyans are already fuming at the high cost they are paying for the single track non electrified railway ,, and for a below par quality product Chinese are famous for ...
Vijayaseelan K
Checked again, felt my tone was a bit harsh, sorry for that. The specifications of the project are decided by the Kenyan side, nothing to do with Chinese contractors. Cost/quality, again, google World Bank report, the Chinese contractors are better, at least in Africa, compared with other similar projects in Africa, analyzed by World Bank experts.
peter wang, people die on Indian railways true, but that doesn't make Chinese railway technology any better, they have good high-speed infrastructure, no one disagrees with that, but are they building you high speed railway? no its just a normal standard gauge railway, Indian railways can hit 160 kmph, with specialised carriages it's been tested at 200 kmph. and we built that infrastructure for less than a quarter of what you are spending on this project.
And about too many people travelling on some trains you have seen are those travelling through heavily populated northern regions, because people in india depend on trains more than chinese. becasue its cheap to travel on rail, and its not going to be the case with the train your govt is constructing now.
It costs 3 to 6 million dollars to construct a double tracked railway that can hit 160 kmph in india at current costs. you govt is spending nearly 8 million on a single track railway that has a maximum operational speed of 120 kmph. Whats the point of having so-called "superior technology" when you get a relatively slower train and you pay 2 times more for a single track against the double track. Thats what british did in india during colonial era, It costed double to build same track in india compared to canada or australia at the same time. So what he said is point on.
Its better to invest in country's infra but spending limited resources on fancy over kills is just point less, i think ethiopia got a better deal than kenya. And its point less to argue technicalities with a person who abuses people for pointing out truth.
+Vijay K +Raghunandan Reddy C
You guys think Kenyan government is stupid, hasn't not done their homework or something? Such a major national project must have gone through a long process of evaluation by experts, including third-party ones, usually from some Western consulting firms. Kenyan government has to balance speed for passenger travel and load requirement for freight transport when building the rail. So it's not faster is always better.
By the way, since India is so much superior in rail building and also cares Africa so much, why don't your government just offer a better deal, instead of just badmouthing Kenyan and Chinese here?