How To Properly Lift a Car on 4 Jack Stands
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 30 พ.ค. 2024
- Safely lifting your car is VITAL! If you are lifting your car for an oil change, rotating tires, or any basic maintenance, following these steps will help properly and support the car on jack stands. Yes you should be using jack stands and not relying only on the vehicle jack to support the car. Use the proper vehicle lift points, so you don't have a "vehicle lift failure". Please safely lift the car each and every time!#humblemechanic #howto #DIY
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I tried the hockey pucks but a fight broke out. So I had to get the puck out of there.
As hockey should be. Lol
@@HumbleMechanic total Joe Thornton beard, you love to see it i never come in these comments haha!
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Get the puck outta here!
I've tried several times with various slot depths and they always split.
I am surprised you didn’t mention after setting the first pair of stands, you need to keep an eye on these while jacking the other side, the car can pull on the stands and pull them over if you are not being careful especially if the jack can’t roll and shift while jacking the car. 👍
This is why I watched this video, every time I do this the first two Jack stands end up all kinds of crooked and I was trying to see how to avoid it. Seems like it may be time for a new jack that can roll easier 🤣
Glad to see that keeping the jack lightly raised and putting the wheels under the side of the car is widely accepted. My dad always taught me to do those two things and I’m sure glad he did. My buddy nearly died after a jack stand slipped and pinned him. Gotta be as careful as possible!
Noob question. Where specifically would you put the wheel and tire assembly?
@@pepeclippz7921 somewhere in the area of where the jackstands are positioned in this video. It really depends what you are doing and how many jacks/jackstands you got going at the time
@@pepeclippz7921 Under the control arm or the lift points
Or an alternative solution would be to put 2x8's stacked under each wheel (if the wheels are still on the car) I've also used those plastic car ramps and slide them under the wheels. I don't like driving up onto them though but they work great if you've jacked the car up then put under tires. I think 2x8's stacked are best though.
Wdym if you don't mind me asking?
Been doing heavy work on cars for years, still find myself watching videos like this
While I already know how to put my car on all 4 stands, I still watch all your videos Incase I learn something new. Great content Charles, keep it up brother!
Completely correct I've been working on cars 15yrs and still find tips even now 👍👍👍
One extra thing I like to do is take the weight off and reposition my stands slightly once I get the vehicle where I want it; this is especially true if I'm jacking high or I'm going to have it up there a while.
These stands can bind and get side loads when jacked like this. That little lift off and set down can eliminate a lot of that.
Yep! That's how it should be done. Particularly when using the regular floor jacks. which have a radial lift movement, not straight up/down. Like many scissor or bottle jacks. When lifting high in these conditions.
Eyes and ears are your best friend. Observe and listen CAREFULLY! All the signs are there to be seen or heard! Don't be lazy, get down on your knees and look at what you're doing, correct as needed! Been lifting cars for almost 40 years with all sorts of lifting equipment, thankfully never had a single failure.
Laying under a car is uncomfortable, don't make it dangerous as well!
Take your time, so it don't take your life! ;-)
Justin Lynch....Thanks for sharing your valuable tip with TH-camrs. It will certainly help others from being the unfortunate victims of jack and jack stand accidents.
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This is a good point. I also prefer to jack the car from the ends, rather than from the sides. It's a PITA doing this on my car, because it's too low.
Thanks for those safety recommendations. Having the jack with slight pressure AND the wheel/tire slid assembly underneath are two reasons I am alive today. The secondary jack specifically kept the vehicle from crushing my sternum, when I stupidly reached underneath to reposition something.
DAMN! So glad you made it out. Scary stuff
Phew! So glad you made it out. An acquaintance of mine was crushed by his car doing an oil change and did not make it. Just like firearms. There are no accidents. Just gross negligence. When I started taking auto shop freshman year of high school our first lesson was lifting a car using a jack and securing it on stands. Even though we had a full blown shop with lifts. I am sure those safety lessons saved a bunch of people from being negligent and causing harm to themselves or others. Very nice that this video went up sharing invaluable safety tips.
This is probably the best video explaining how to lift a car on 4 jack stands, and I've seen many. Having said that, I've made the decision that if the job involves lifting the car completely (front and rear), I'd take the car to the mechanic. It's not worth it.
Yep. I don't trust my made in China jackstands, even though they're rated for 3 tons each. Good for taking off the wheels at the same time but no way I would go under there.
Yeah same. I just purchased an adjustable front sway bar and some other small front suspension parts for my MK5 GTI and have been debating on whether I want to attempt the job myself or take it to a shop. It's not that I can't do the install, it's getting the car jacked up on all 4 corners and getting underneath to drop the subframe and then having to torque the new subframe hardware in once I'm done installing the sway bar. The thought of being under there for that long sketches me out plus when I have to lift the car to get all 4 corners up the car shifts when I'm jacking up the other side. It's definitely sketchy af lol. After writing this comment I think I'm just going to take it to a shop lol
I disagree. Just take the necessary precautions! I put the car on jack stands. put ramps under the wheels, put a jack under the car (I just bought a new one so now I have 2 jacks under the car). and if any wheels are taken off I slide them under the frame. Essentially, My jack stands need to fail, my jacks need to fail, the car has to somehow break the ramps and crush wheels in order to land on me. I feel really safe under the vehicle!
@@GageDrums Sounds like an excellent plan
If you don't trust the Chinese jack stands, then get some 8x8 lumber as backup support.
In many (many) cars the pinched weld is just an indicator and the OEM car jack distributes the load on reinforcement pads located near the pinched weld. Putting a stand or using a flat surface to lift will crush the pinched weld and possibly make some damages to the vehicle.
This is a perfect video for anyone new to working on a car. I showed this to my son on his car about a month ago. I bet he will remember it after watching your video. Thanks again for another great video.
Also this is why I buy jackstands in sets of 4. Getting 2 brands of stands to be even never works.
You just saved me a headache. Thank you, sir.
Good video! If actually going under the car (eg, DSG service), as opposed to just jacking it up to bleed brakes, some folks actually insert an additional pair of jack stands as a backup. And get the second pair from a different manufacturer. Seems like overkill, but with 3000 lbs overhead, better safe than sorry.
Hey I’m good with it. I’d rather 4 extra minutes and 2 extra stands and not being dead. Lol
In My case, i have 2 pairs of stands, that are different brands, and i have 2 floor jacks, so i use both floor jacks as backups to the standards.
Another thing you could do if leaving the wheels on such as when doing fluid services, is to put something like blocks under the wheels so if the jacks fail, the wheels will land on the blocks affording you some clearance to GTFO from underneath asap.
same, even if just positioning them under with no weight bearing on them. takes 30 seconds
The risk isnt the jack stand collapsing really, thats super rare, it definitely doesnt hurt to use extras though, just in case.
The real risk is them tipping over. Thats why doing 4 jackstands is dangerous, and why extra stands wont help you.
You are far better off with wooden cribbing. Cheaper, and you can build them with a nice wide foot print.
I generally don't even take the wheels off to bleed brakes.
Charles always thanks for showing high standards when it comes to working on vehicles properly. Ive learned the standards from place to place carry. Sometimes if people are educated the wrong way first, they teach other's the wrong way.
I'm very grateful for your integrity and the peacefulness you find. One bolt turn might help a thousand more.
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Hockey pucks are always good to have around when working on a car.
Never heard of using a hockey puck. I use cut 2” x 4” s.
@@CopCat34 wood can split and eject itself. new hockey pucks won't do that.
Yup I’ve been using them for about the past 5 years since I found out about using them, they’re great much better than using wood
I have had wood explode on me before, very scary
Flyin Miata jack pads have 2 slots cut in them to go around the pinch weld which seems like a good idea.
Always hard to find lifting points on newer vehicles.
Nice video, good advise/safety tips.
Feeling for the pinch weld with your boot will become a lost art
@@chumlee3325I think it already is
This is a great video. There are a lot of videos about jacking up GTi’s where people just say to use the pinch welds but you invariably need to jack somewhere else to put it on the 4th pinch weld…
Good for me to know as my laziness has had me jack up next to the jack point so I can put a stand under the pinch weld. I’m sure my car has loved that.
And that's why i love my bimmers, already equiped from the factory with central lifting point under the engine and rear end. Some says that's because they knew they would have to spend a lot of time on jacks but hey, cant complain
But driving BMW just screams “I’m an a hole!” BMW=Big Money Waste
Going to be painting my calipers and being that the paint has a catylist that is time sensitive, i need to paint all of them at the same time...this is very informative!!
Nice touch with the hockey puck! Thanks for the advice
YES this makes me get started on working on my car from the bottom as well, already got the 4x set with a jack.
This is the best how to I've seen on how to properly and safely get your Golf on jack stands. On my Mk4 Jetta I've used a 4x4 about 3ft long on the jack and jacked the sub frame in front and in the rear same thing but on the beam axle it worked perfectly with a Mk4 just make sure the jack is centered pretty easy to tell if you've got it balanced correctly , but these Mk7 AWD are a different animal
To the point, with no fluff. Excellent
Thank you Charles! That’s my favourite way to put my mk6 Gil on stands!
I did almost the same steps on my 2002 A3 8L last year... except I used the standard VW jack, and after lifting one side, it was bending its base whenever I tried to lift the other side - quite dangerous, as the car was slipping a bit even with properly placed jackstands! Managed to lift it with two such jacks, but now I know - I need to buy a proper 2T jack to securely lift the other side, as its lower and it makes for even more lifting for the jack.
Outstanding video! Great info and excellent editing.
No matter what I'm looking to do to my 13 MK6 R, I always trust your experience over anybody. Wish you lived near by, I would trust you to work on my vehicles 100%!!! As Always, Thanks 😁
great video!! learned great information! thank you. I bought the best jack stands that you never have to worry about failing they have two versions. I bought low profile Esco 10499 3 Ton Performance Adjustable Shorty Style Low Profile Car Jack Stand. I have used 4 of them to jack my entire car and it sat on them for over month. Base is three points flat which makes it secure. I felt competely safe under them. They are expensive but well worth the money for safety.
Thanks for the tip Charles! I was able to use the recommended jack points on the front subframe to install the Audi jack pad adapters. It was very stable. But now that I have the jack pad adapters, I won't be using the subframe. Too bad I did not find your video and the adapters earlier, my rear pinch welds are in really rough shape after years of abuse.
Used the hockey puck the other day. Great idea! Thanks
This really helped me. Was jacking up my car earlier today and got so confused on where to place the jack and where to place the jackstands. This solved my issues :)
Thanks for the information Charles!
Great choice on the yellow for the R! I've got a red 2016 R. Love it!
Excellent tutorial, cannot thank you enough!
A very good and clear presentation.
never thought about it..hockey puck!...never liked metal on metal with the jack on the lift points..doing it for years and just watching this vid for the hell of it...good to learn a new trick...thumbs up! man
Good tips here, I use a hockey puck as well. If you cut a small slot into the puck with a table saw it sits on the pinch weld a bit better.
This is gonna make my life so much easier.. thank you!
Great job Charles. The edit/camera work on here is top notch. Good info too!
Thanks dude 💛💙💛💙💛
Properly jacking up cars is actually more important than you think. Thanks for the great video Charles! Would be curious to see how you can jack up even higher for transmission jobs that need more clearance.
Well explained man. Great work.
This is the video I needed. Thanks
Awesome video! Thanks for posting
Thank you for the informative video ! I always wondered how can I jack the car up while using the floor jack and adding the jack stand.. Now I get it, jack up the back side first and put the jack stand in the front . Thank you
Thanks man! This is super helpful
Another awesome video Thanks Charles
You got me off to a good start on my first brake job. Ready for April!
Yassss
Thank you for creating this video. It proved extremely useful when I swapped my winter wheels the other day. In the interim, I’ve ordered the Audi jack pad kit as I don’t trust these pinch welds for the long term.
I've read and seen video using the Audi jack pad kit and it's pretty tight getting a jack into those Audi pads and placing jack stands at the pinch weds simultaneously you have to have certain jack stands (and jack) (like the ones shown in this video) AND position the jack a pretty sharp angle to accomplish it.
Thank you so much for your video, I just finish preparing my Golf R because I will be out of town in a few months
Thanks for sharing safety 👍
Thanks for the video, really useful!
Everything in your video, car, jacks and floor, look in mint/clean conditions. They show you a very tidy mechanic besides doing great work, well done!
Love the Mk. 7.5 R in yellow. That colour was never available in Australia. Great video - thank you.
About time! Thanks Charles!
Hey Charles - do you think I can lift the front directly from the cross member/dogbone mount using the hockey puck/jack? I only need to lift the front of mine to figure out some suspension noise...
That first gear tip is a life saver 👍👍👍
Excellent, Thank you
Love this thing and it is very well made for the price
Thank you for the informative video
Thank you for this!!!
Helpful video. Thanks.
Very good.👍 I will be doing this for my tiptronic service soon on my mk5.
2:00 made me cringe as that Jack stand in the rear wobbled. Your videos are always soooo clean with perfect lighting. :)
GOOD EYE....
This is a great example of why not to do it.
In 35 years, I’ve never personally had any luck, not crushing a pinch-weld with a jack or jack stand. Due to that, I always use suspension/frame points. 🇨🇦👍🏼
my pinch welds are shredded from 10 years of oil changes
The earlier generation VW group cars had a pad just inside the pinch-weld where the factory tyre-change jack lifted the car, so the pinch-weld didn't take the weight. The current generation like the Golf mk7 in the video, the factory jack does sit on that part sticking down from the pinch weld where he's jacking it and that's what takes the weight. So I think they've made it a lot stronger than the old easily-damaged pinch welds.
Great video thanks mate
Thanks for this one Charles. Lots of good points. If you live in Southern California the car may come down no matter how well it's supported. :)
if you Live in upstate NY, same risk, because the jack point is going to be a rusted mess.
Why is that?
@@francophysique5192 Well for upstate NY, everytime it snows they put down chemicals that instantly rust your car. If you don't wash it (even that may not be enough), eventually it totally rots out.
@@francophysique5192 My guess is So Cal has earthquakes.
+100 for the Hockey Pucks. Bought a bag of them. OCD = cut and trimmed for BMW Jack Points, (bonus there was they fit wifes Mercedes also) cut and slotted to fit GTI PInch Welds. For when wheels do not have to come off, my son and I bought Race Ramps Wheel Cribs. 2 piece 8" lift inch ones. I love em'. Money well spent!
That's a cool looking jack stand!
I've put my car up on jack stands in the dirt with remnants of rocks that were put there a few times. Wish I had a concrete floor. You can do it, but you need to make sure you're using at least 3/4" plywood cutouts for the stands to rest on. Also make sure the stands are the same height as the dirt might be higher on one side. Possible, but still feels sketchier than a nice flat floor. You also need a nice solid piece of wood for your floor jack.
Thank, those tip help my a lot!!!
Love your videos because I also have a 2019 Cliff Green Golf R
Great video Charles! Nice to know I was properly jacking my own car up using the same methodology as you demonstrated. It should make sense if you look at the layout logically, but some people need a clear representation. You did a great job at that!
BTW: My dad bust a gut laughing when he saw my mk1 Jetta lift the rear wheel when I was jacking up the front, just as you shown with your Mk7. He had never seen that in any car he's ever owned over the years! Gotta love a stiff unibody!
One thing i would like to add is that when i lower the car i always check the jackstand now and then because if they are really high and the weight shifts its possible that they flip over.
So i always check to see if they still have all three legs to the ground and/or the bottomplate still rests flat
Hi Charles , you dont know how much you help Thanks Bro.
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Very uplifting video.
Hahaha I see what you did there
Great video!
nice video, thank you. I suggest to get yourself some rubber pads to match the pinch welds or lifting points instead of rag. You won´t do any damage to the car and you can get a set of 4 for around 20€. When i buy used car, i hate when the pinch welds are bent from bad lifting :/
1:57 You know you have the right equipment when your jack is called Roadster
❤😊totally awesome 👌 TY for sharing this video
Yea, get some spacers on that sucker. I did 15mm front/20mm rear spacers on our R to push the wheels out a little bit and it looks way better.
When we bought our Mk7 R I had the dealer swap the Watkins Glen 18's from our MK6 GTI and put the Pretorias from the R onto the GTI. Some lucky buyer at Carmax got a brand new set of Pretorias with summer tires when they bought that GTI.
Wow that’s a bright car 😱
I actually have a thick horse stall mat in front of my workbench that I custom cut things from. Pieces for the floor jack, the jack stands, etc. you can stack and attach pieces together to make a custom rubber lift puck.
Each side of the car usually has 3 notched out parts on the pinch welds to jack. There’s the two you showed on each side and usually one midway down the car in the middle somewhere. What I do is jack on the middle notched out section it lifts both wheels front and back off the ground then I put my jack stands on the areas that it recommends in the manual. Then repeat on the other side and if you need more hight jack up the one side fix the stands and repeat on the otherside. Also take the tires off and place them at the four jacks stands incase the jack stands fails and take the jack and have it holding either the front or back of the car for extra protection
Great video.
Thanks man now I can change my headlights
I drive the front end up on ramps, and lift the rear with beam jack. Set the rear end a few inches higher than the front on jack stands.
Then, I use the beam jack to lift the front end off the ramps, that way it's not at risk of tipping over the rear stand since I've started with 7 inches of lift from the ramps (safety 1st) and lower the front end onto jack stands as close to level as possible.
A good jack, with the beam is well worth the investment, and starting off ramps to avoid tipping jack stands prevents possible damage to the vehicle.
great video thanks
Thanks for the vid Charles. I’ve been wondering if I could put the jack stand under the subframe of my GTI, and you answered that perfectly!
Awesome!
Learning new things here
Great video
On the Mk6 models I like to place the jack stands under control arm bushing brackets (rear position) at the front of the car. If it’s a quick job I usually leave the stands there, if it’s going to be up for a while I’ll move the stands to the pinch welds.
That’s car wow how clean , every car should be like that , trying to get my car as clean
Just bought two jack stands, now this show up. Suspicious! :D
Now YT will make you go back and buy two more... LOL 😂
Beautiful car; like the yellow!
I gave away my jack stands many years ago and switched to what first responders use, CRIBBING. Proper cribbing doesn't crush, fracture and is stronger then most jack stands. I don't even want jack stands for free and I'm a mechanic. (If I worked 18-wheelers or heavy equipment I'd just industrial stands but those are different from consumer toys.)
With more people undercoating with fluid film- make sure to wipe it off first anywhere the jack saddle will be placed along with the jack stands, especially if you use some type of puck or pinch adaptor. If there is any resistance between the floor and the jack wheels, the saddle WILL slip and shoot the puck because of the overall lack of friction, allowing the entire car to instantly fall onto the jack saddle.
For the other jackstands you showed briefly at least for the ones sold at Harbor freight , they sell nice tight fitting resting rubber pads so no need for a cloth .Thanks
this grey coloured R looks super cool
Your videos are Head and shoulders above all other channels
Thank you so much
Some cars like the camaro actually have a jackup spot at center mass on each side so you can lift and put the two stands under without the need for additional jacking points, but beware, slotted pucks are required.
Thank You!!!!
You are so lucky with colour choices over there!
This was a very limited run. Less than 200
Big Thumbs UP!!