love the illustration and video, very clear and easy to follow. I built a position sensor so I can see hammer travel on my Theoben on a storage oscilloscope and built a debounce device as shown here. It still bounces some, but is better than the stock device. If I get ambitious enough, I might make a video about it.
Thanks for watching this video. It is pleasure for me that this video is helpful for you. If you make a video please share link with me I'll mention it in the description of this video.
What stops the carrier from moving when the inner weight bounces back and collides with it? I suspect that this is only a bounce reducer not a complete debouncer. The free travel distance really doesn't do much to reduce bounce, because the actual energy transfer happens when the inner weight is in contact with the valve stem.
Thanks for watching this video. It sounds like you're taking about inner weight bouncing? Inner weight may bounce due to repid hit of stem valve but when inner part bounces and hits again the stem valve with low force. It can not release the air.
@@AirGunMech Nice, the bounce continues as I predicted. It is because it does not arrest the bounce but only attenuates it. Meaning it is still dependent on starting with a not-very-bouncy tune. You can see this by the small initial bounce. Debouncers that arrest the bounce are more versatile because they have the same result of stopping bounce independent of the tune (any hammer weight, spring stiffness and preload, valve travel, pressure, etc.)
This is just an animation to understand the machanism. Please watch these videos to buit it. th-cam.com/video/tIeT9xuvNoQ/w-d-xo.htmlsi=fTRa8ZgXQ4yTYCS- th-cam.com/video/lZgf4HRzWvc/w-d-xo.htmlsi=x7-IFGdCQltAy4Kb th-cam.com/video/qNCgbGKfArM/w-d-xo.htmlsi=Z1jN_HS6MO4gXfIz
Hammer can move freely in out chamber. When pellet is loaded cocking handle pulls the outer chamber tube. When it is fired, tube releases along with the hammer.
@@AirGunMech i mean that will be have 2 hit.. One at outer hammer.. And the second hammer with pen valve... Theywill make recoil on air rifle.. Like 2 punch .. Willbe make the rifle moving or recoil..
@berry more yo dont understand what i mean... Even hammer free hit the pen valve... Before that theare are 1 hit outer hammer punch.. Then hammer punch to pen valve... So 2 punch.. And they will make doble recoil ..
in order to balancing the power between hammare sprig and the spring of valve that it supresion air in bottle that store to supply your gone more time . i see and suggest .the best solution ..you must be put washer spring for both eqiually in oppesite direction that, is abes❤t method to give your gut more age when you was it.. if you agree about my easy and simple idea❤nasir alsanagle with best my wishes say thank you
@@AirGunMech i mean any washer gust to make the weak spring more thikness more to pushing high abillity during use it thank you for your advice my friend.........nasir alsanagle send for you best wishes
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love the illustration and video, very clear and easy to follow. I built a position sensor so I can see hammer travel on my Theoben on a storage oscilloscope and built a debounce device as shown here. It still bounces some, but is better than the stock device. If I get ambitious enough, I might make a video about it.
Thanks for watching this video. It is pleasure for me that this video is helpful for you. If you make a video please share link with me I'll mention it in the description of this video.
Never seen it before. I'll migth want to machine something like this for my sumatra. Was going to play with a shorter hammerspring anyway.
Outstanding!👍 Another remedy that works very well is a rubber buffer that's the same length as the valve stem👍
Thanx for watching. Please can you send me this design or video.
Удобная штука, можно весом регулировать порцию воздуха 👍
Excellent video. Thanks for uploading.
Welcome brother
What stops the carrier from moving when the inner weight bounces back and collides with it? I suspect that this is only a bounce reducer not a complete debouncer. The free travel distance really doesn't do much to reduce bounce, because the actual energy transfer happens when the inner weight is in contact with the valve stem.
Thanks for watching this video. It sounds like you're taking about inner weight bouncing?
Inner weight may bounce due to repid hit of stem valve but when inner part bounces and hits again the stem valve with low force. It can not release the air.
Here is the official technical video from daystate th-cam.com/video/lZgf4HRzWvc/w-d-xo.htmlsi=LFn5oaDZNjUCpIpz
@@AirGunMech Nice, the bounce continues as I predicted. It is because it does not arrest the bounce but only attenuates it. Meaning it is still dependent on starting with a not-very-bouncy tune. You can see this by the small initial bounce. Debouncers that arrest the bounce are more versatile because they have the same result of stopping bounce independent of the tune (any hammer weight, spring stiffness and preload, valve travel, pressure, etc.)
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Where is this available for Kral Puncher Jumbo?
It is not available at market. You have to ask some body who can do modification for this.
@@AirGunMech Yes. In the meantime, I checked that the structure needs to be redesigned.
This is just an animation to understand the machanism. Please watch these videos to buit it.
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th-cam.com/video/lZgf4HRzWvc/w-d-xo.htmlsi=x7-IFGdCQltAy4Kb
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What specific airguns use the debouncer ?
Benjamin Marauder airgun uses this technique. th-cam.com/video/6VuXkPyLjNc/w-d-xo.html
Daystate gun also uses
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niksan uses it i got it on my niksan achero
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If it pushes Hammer but still the FPS does not exceed 770, what is the reason?
Are you using regulated gun or non regulated?
The spring tension also matters in order to increase FPS. As hammer hit with more force due to spring, FPS definitely be increased
In Russia made more easy - posted hammer. When hammer moved 1-2 millimetr without spring force before strike on stock of valve.
Then hammer should be heavy if it moves with out spring contact.
@@AirGunMech Not necessarily. If the rifle has a reducer valve, a light Hammer will usually be used, along with a strong spring.
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Very nice Demo for making the trigger of gun
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Can i save n share this vidio,,
Sorry sir. This is copyrighted graphics. The animator of this video only allowed this channel to publish it.
Fkng outstanding!💥👍👍👍
Do fx guns have this mechanism
No. Fx guns mechanism is not same as Artemis P-15
I'll make fx mechanism soon
Wow.. Its mean you will got 2 dump.. Outer hammer with chammber and inner hammer with valve pen... Hmm... Will not make doble recoil??
Hammer can move freely in out chamber. When pellet is loaded cocking handle pulls the outer chamber tube. When it is fired, tube releases along with the hammer.
PCPs are more powerful than springer.
@@AirGunMech i mean that will be have 2 hit.. One at outer hammer.. And the second hammer with pen valve... Theywill make recoil on air rifle.. Like 2 punch .. Willbe make the rifle moving or recoil..
@berry more yo dont understand what i mean... Even hammer free hit the pen valve... Before that theare are 1 hit outer hammer punch.. Then hammer punch to pen valve... So 2 punch.. And they will make doble recoil ..
th-cam.com/video/tIeT9xuvNoQ/w-d-xo.html
th-cam.com/video/lZgf4HRzWvc/w-d-xo.html
Please watch these two videos. You'll get your answer
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in order to balancing the power between hammare sprig and the spring of valve that it supresion air in bottle that store to supply your gone more time . i see and suggest .the best solution ..you must be put washer spring for both eqiually in oppesite direction that, is abes❤t method to give your gut more age when you was it.. if you agree about my easy and simple idea❤nasir alsanagle with best my wishes say thank you
Washers spring system is not suitable for hammer strike
@@AirGunMech i mean any washer gust to make the weak spring more thikness more to pushing high abillity during use it thank you for your advice my friend.........nasir alsanagle send for you best wishes
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P15 this by the looks
Yes. Infect i just want to explain how a hammer debouncer works by illustrations
Check out this link to understand in slow motion of Daystate PCP slingshot system th-cam.com/video/lZgf4HRzWvc/w-d-xo.html
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