I bought my CSX about 2 years after its release date. Mine doesn't have a false trigger reset, and the trigger pull is 4 lbs, not the 7/7.5 I heard in reviews. It's the best micro 9mm in the market imo
I have been shooting 40 years. I have put 400 rounds through a rental at the range. Every gun I have shot has a different length and feel of the pull. With every gun you adjust to it. This trigger is absolutely fine.
I’ve been shooting since 1955 when I was four. Back then you shot what you were handed and you adjusted to the gun not the other way around. Too many grip and trigger snowflakes today.
As a person who does NOT use nor care about using trigger reset, I love my CSX. I've never had any issues with it, nor have I ever worried about the "false reset" of the trigger.
I would like to complement Smith & Wesson on creating the CSX pistol. I have owned a CSX for over a year. It replaced my M&P Shield PC. The performance has been 100%, maybe better than the Shield. At least it fits and feels better. I must say, it is unfortunate that the internet “gun experts” missed the target completely. The CSX is a conceal carry gun, and a very good one, period. To compare it to a custom, race, target, or tactical gun, which most all did, is far off base. In a self defense situation, the average guy, or maybe everybody, won’t be shooting to trigger reset, and the slightly stiff trigger, with an adrenaline rush, will never be noticed and probably an advantage for better control. Is there room for improvement? Of course, nothing is perfect. I’m not a fan of polymer frame guns. The Shield served a purpose and did it well. Once I have the chance to handle the CSX a few times, there wasn’t a doubt in my mind. Too bad the “experts” tarnished what I feel is the best, affordable CCW’s on the market.
I think TH-camrs also watch each other don’t want to go out on a limb and venture their comments to far from what the crowd is saying: They all talk about the reset issue on this gun They all like CZs and never discuss the issues of those guns They all generally have negatives about hammer fired guns They all hate thumb safeties and say they wouldn’t carry a gun with a safety They all like striker fired guns They all talk patriotic and pro America but promote foreign made guns or foreign owned companies and never highlight the American made guns that employ Americans and have to deal with the anti gun crowd here in the states … they promote America, but they sure don’t promote American-made Guns
I agree with you about this gun getting a bad rap... It was meant to be a concealed carry defensive pistol... 1911ish design that I believe is an awesome pistol.
Another straight up honest review. Nice shooting, looks like an accurate little pistol. The thing is the $$. At $550-575 it's much higher than many of the small carry 9mm's. Smith is dumping Shield plus on the market for less than $400 plus a $50 rebate. So I don't really see a sustainable market for this gun except for those, such as yourself, who have many firearms and wants something a little different. The 1911 format in a little carry pistol gets big Cool points. Would like to see one of these come out of their custom shop where they can resolve some of the quirky issues and take this platform up a notch.
This is an excellent take. I didn’t even think about S&W competing against themselves with the Shield and with this pistol being quirky like you stated people are more than likely to gravitate towards the shield. Thanks for watching man. 🤠
I like this pistol. My training doesn't allow riding the reset. So, no reset issues. Also, in my mind, this is not a plinker. Train with it but use something different for long sessions at the range. Finally, it is a back-up piece for 7 yards. A back-up gun is better than no gun.
My family owns three of these wonderful little 2011-style guns. The first one we bought had just a bit of the "false reset" trigger that can easily be remedied with some very minor gunsmithing. The next two we bought were perfect right out of the box. The build quality, and fit and finish of this gun are on par with guns selling for four figures. The battery of arms is very 1911-ish except that the grip safety which I never liked is replaced by a trigger dongle that's mainly there for drop safety. The manual safety is well-designed. You can rack the slide or cock the hammer with the safety engaged. Having a manual safety makes this one of the few micro-9s I'm willing to carry appendix. I normally carry in 3 o'clock unless I'm wearing jogging shorts or even swim trunks, but it's nice to have that manual safety. You can carry cocked and locked with confidence, and the battery of arms is extremely simple and fast: draw, thumb the safety down, and fire. I'm very happy with the accuracy at the range. I shoot and practice with MagTech +P+ JHP that chronos at 1450 FPS out of this little gun. I have no problem reliably ringing the iron at 25 yards. When practicing with cheap, bucket 'o crap ammo, it's nice to be able to just re-cock the hammer in the event of light primer strikes. With quality service ammo, malfunctions are nonexistent. The last thing I want on a compact, ultra-concealable gun like this are optics that stick out of the top of the slide like an oversized toenail, or a flashlight or laser hanging off a pic rail on the bottom. This gun wears like a piece of fine jewelry. My wife and daughter are both amazed at how gracefully this little gun manages recoil in comparison to other micro-9s they've shot which is one reason they're so happy to carry the CSX. For that matter, the slide operates with a smooth, effortless action that my wife finds very easy to operate with her petite hands. I could recommend this gun to someone elderly or with arthritis. Why settle for a .380 when there's a 9mm that operates as butter-smooth as the CSX? My "big name" polymer frame, pre-cocked striker-fired 9mm is now serving as a home defense gun. For my tastes, this great little gun ticks all the boxes. I'm glad someone else likes it too!
It’s actually UNLIKE the 1911 when it comes to being able to rack the slide with the safety engaged. This is actually better because you cannot do that with a 1911.
I totally agree, I like my CSX. My trigger’s reset is good and you don’t feel a false reset when you shoot. It’s a very good deep conceal or pocket gun. About 400 rounds without a problem.
I carry the CSX everyday loaded with 125 grain +p. It’s well balanced and very accurate. I’ve put 100s of rounds through it without a hitch using several different types of ammunition. I have nothing but praise for the design. FYI I’m a lefty and appreciate S&W putting full ambidextrous controls on it👍🏼👍🏼
Sent mine in 3 months ago thinking they might "fix" the slightly gritty trigger. Called yesterday they said it was not able to be repaired and are sending me a new one. Yay I really like it and have had no real issues with the CSX.
I actually think S&W was targeting Law Enforcement with this gun. The 1911 operating style solves the negligent discharge issue of a small striker fired pocket carry gun. Departments would want the obtuse safety for liability. There are more self inflicted gun shot wounds in law enforcement than get reported. This pretty much says negligent discharge not a gun issue.
Purchased this gun 3 months ago. No trigger reset, appendix carrries incredibly well, I can sit down and move and forget its there. 10 yard bullseye. Incredible cccw gun with that manual safety! Lower recoil than my 365 and 43x , conceals as well as my 365
@@wyominggunproject agreed 💯. I was carrying my 365 exclusively till I got this thing, it really is just better in so many ways than the sig 🤷......and I have pretty much purchased and rotated through all the micro compacts (g43x, canik mete, shield plus, mc2sc, masada slim, hellcat).......my 2 favorites of them all are this CSX and the HK p30 sk (hk for winter and as a hunting sidearm........ csx for literally every other appendix carry scenario)
I actually love mine! Over 5000 rounds and not a failure. All the parroting I hear on youtube about the reset and all that crap are a non issue! It shoots great and feels great in my hand. But for those that don't practice or don't know how to shoot there are other options.
I agree with this review. The reset can be solved (goggle it). Mine is two year old and only 100 rounds downrange. actually treat it like a revolver and don't shortstroke the trigger. most comfortable pistol to conceal period. love the grip!
I like mine. No problems with the reset, decent trigger. Reliable, not as accurate as some of my full size pistols, but I wouldn't expect it to be. I think I will keep it.
Smith warns you about the trigger in the manual. Page 24. "After firing a shot, you must allow the trigger to move fully forward to reset the mechanism before you can fire the next shot. Failure to let the trigger move fully forward will prevent the lockwork from cycling and will prevent you from being able to fire the next shot." It's notable how many similarities exist with my 40 year old 6906.
Thanks for giving this one a go. I haven't shot one yet, but am impressed with the ergonomics, size and capacity. Trigger did not seem bad at all from dry firing it. Still keeping my eye out for a deal on one. In my experience, no carry piece is perfect, and like with most things, impressions are subjective. You said it best- if you like it and it works for you, what else matters?
Thank you for showing the Glock 42 and 43 in this video. Those 2 guns have been overshadowed by everything that came out after the P365. They're excellent, especially the 42 because of how it shoots compared to most small .380s.
This is my main carry pistol. I love the size. Love that it's all metal. The trigger is probably 6 pounds or so but it's crisp and I shoot it well. The only thing that might ever replace it is one of the newer Shields. I'm not opposed to polymer, I just like the feel of aluminum. My only complaint is the break down, but I understand the requirement if you want ambidextrous controls. I super glued the sleeve in one spot for my backup magazine. I wear dress clothes, which for me are notoriously hard to carry in and this pistol hides well.
I hope S&W keeps it around and eventually gets around to giving it a refresh, another marketing push or 2.0 model or something because it doesn't deserve to be relegated to the scrap heap of good guns that just didn't do enough things well enough or better enough compared to the competition and at its price point to get traction. I think the most common criticism about the trigger was an unnuanced nit-pick from guntubers who shoot a ton of different guns every year, to include fantastic single action triggers and wanted this to be something it's not. I'm not sure they're going to be able to keep it around with the Shield and other sub-compact striker-fire models being at least as good and generally less expensive though and a highly competitive market for concealed carry guns from other manufacturers.
Actually bought my csx a year ago after watching many complaints on the false reset. Mine didn't have the false reset issue but that was after the csx has been out for a while, I think s&w fixed the false reset issues, mine runs flawless. It's my edc. Absolutely love shooting my csx, it's such a fantastic gun and I always recommend it to everyone.
It is what it is. Not a gun for everyone. Especially for someone with large hands. Mine shoots great with no false reset. Remember to practice and train with whatever you carry.
I bought a CSX as soon as they became available. I never watched any negative or positive TH-cam review prior to purchase. I liked the size, I liked the features, and I liked the look. The trigger needed work out of the box. The resest was fine, but the pull weight was inconsistent on mine... 5, 7, 12... All over the place, and frustrating to shoot. Later, when getting a good trigger break, I noticed the gun was surprisingly accurate. I took mine apart and carefully massaged the interacting parts until I got a smooth, consistent, 4lb 4oz trigger pull. The part of the trigger that pushes up on the black plastic plunger that allows the firing pin to be released was a really rough interaction. Carefully smoothing out these parts to work together was the key to making a nicer trigger. When new, the trigger would sometimes feel so heavy that it was binding up. My Lyman guage only reads up to 12lbs. I complained to S&W, but they never acknowledged me. That's when I thought screw them, and I started fixing the trigger on my own. I noticed that later production guns came with a smoother sloped white teflon looking plastic plunger. Guns with the white plunger had a better trigger right out of the box, so I guess Smith quietly took care of a problem that they did not acknowledge to me. The 9 Shield Plus is a better gun right out of the box. It has an amazing 4lb ish trigger. That said, I like my CSX the way I fixed it... The way it should have come from S&W. Others I know who bought the CSX all had complaints about the trigger. I handled one that felt like a two bump reset, the first bump being false. I believe a lot of the complaints on this gun were valid. Smith should have come out, owned it, and fixed the problem. If you find one that has a white plunger, you are likely dialed in on the trigger. Beware of guns with a black plunger, unless it's really cheap, and you have the patience to fix it.
I LOVE THIS GUN. Best EDC carry. All metal. Shoots fantastic. SMALL. 1911 style operation. I carry it safety off, hammer down. If I need it, pull hammer back and fire. Perfect in every way. I would never sell it. It lives on my side every day. Trigger is totally awesome! I’ve never once experienced any of the “false reset” BS that TH-cam reviews are showing. NOT ONCE. 100% reliable through hundreds of rounds. It’s so solid. Feels quality. All metal , no plastic frame! Don’t hesitate. Great gun!
Not that its relevant, but I think this is one of the nicest looking pistols as well. It looks cool as hell, truely gorgeous. I like the mix of 1911 with modern polymer wonder nines. Maybe the 365 and all its options overshadowed this a lot. But S&W make some of the best looking pistols imo, the best looking non glock would be the M&P 2.0 for me. Also with that exposed hammer the slide can be shorter as you demonstrated, which would help with less mass at the back of the gun on printing when holstered. Manual safeties have gone out of style, but I think they offer some good benefits. Id love to try one.
Honestly think the Firestar series shows a bit more of the 1911 inspiration than the CSX does, what with the overall form factor and all steel construction...and the relatively low capacity for it's size. Simpler takedown than a true 1911, though...
I had my eyes on this gun when they were coming out. I could feel what reviewrs said about the " false reset" so i passed. I hope they worked out the issue and may have another look at it again thanks to this video. I also think S&W went overboard with the trigger safety. They had a great opportunity to place a traditional 1911 style trigger and for whatever reason chose not to use it. Thanks for the a newer review of this model.
I am pretty sure the only guy in Germany who owns and carri3s the CSX since it is still not officially on the German market. I got so tired of waiting, that I imported it. No regrets at all. I love it. Before the CSX I carried the Glock 43x with optic and 15td Shield mags. But I prefer the CSX any day for its manual safety. I wished there were i-dot style night sights available for the CSX. Nothing wrong with the gun, just gun tubers bashing it for more clicks. The CSX is a unicorn on the micro compact market in so many ways and I love that S&W went all the way to be different.
I bought mine nearly a year ago with the holster ( junk )and extra 12 rd mag and a mag pouch was under 600 out the door. And this false reset is from the plastic firing pin block that under the slide. Shame on S&W for putting plastic in the slide 😢 But I never noticed it if there was a false reset … I bought a nice little leather tuck holster from Muddy Water …. Nice little appendix carry But I agree the internet killed these sales
I had my eye on the CSX the very first time I saw it. What a beautiful gun at a price I could afford. Took me a couple of months to save up for one. I LOVE the way it fits in my hand, and conceals very well. It also has all the smooth/rounded corners and edges, so it's very comfortable to carry. To me the trigger is amazing for a personal everyday carry, maybe not a competition gun, but that wasn't the point. I only feel the funny reset when I'm at the bench dry firing and trying to find it. Things I don't like: 1- the grip was a little too aggressive for me while tucked up against my side - a touch of sandpaper reduced that nicely. 2 - because it's not so popular, finding holsters/different sights etc. is a little trickier than with something a bit more popular, which makes me sad because it's such an awesome gun.
I just got my CSX 3 days ago and the trigger snobs ruined it. I love mine and couldn’t find one where I am. Had to drive to Manchester Tennessee to by it from an individual from Nashville. That tells me not many people took a chance on this little gun because of these trigger snob clowns. Mine doesn’t even have a false reset. It functions flawlessly. Don’t listen to gun tubers try these guns for yourself
Yeah the internet is surely misleading, i carry a kimber micro 380 and all i hear is, "kimber sucks" "they dont work" blah blah, it runs flawless with over 1k rounds through it with any and all ammo. I wish i wouldve thought about the CSX before picking up a sig p365 to have a 9mm carry option
Having been personally burned by S&W on their 10mm. And then they advertised this as a 1911 style trigger, and then the reports of the false reset, which sounds like it’s not bad but also still there and not a short 1911 reset, then no way. Fool me once, shame on S&W, twice ain’t gonna happen😂
Im with you TBP. False reset is real, trigger sucks and the whole gun feels off with 2 totally different textures. Also, the safety working different from a standard 1911 is IMO a bad thing ( sorry WGP, lol) but yeah, its not locked. I like it locked. Ill go with a 9mm shield or shield plus if I "need" capacity. If I really needed capacity I would go with a shield plus in 30 Stupid Carry , with a mag extention of course. 👍👊
I own this pistol saw all the gun-tube reviews that highlighted the flaws but purchased it anyway. I own numerous pistols but wanted to have something to fit with my Sig P938 Legion, which is almost exactly the same size except it holds 7+1 9mm. Fully loaded the P938 weights 22.3 ounces and the CSX fully loaded with 12+1 weights 25.1 ounces. Probably with different loads it’s slightly different but for an extra 6 rounds of 9mm it’s not a bad tradeoff. The P938 is similar in that it’s a 1911 style pistol but both conceal well and are relatively lightweight I sometimes pocket carry with a sticky holster. 😅 Admittedly, the CSX is slightly larger in my pocket but I’m 6’5” 235 so it hides well in tactical pants. It is too large for jeans … or shorts I go with a P238 .380 for that. Nevertheless, honestly I haven’t fired it yet so I don’t carry it yet 😅. I got it at what I believe was an excellent price because my gun store wanted to move it and they knew I’d like a 1911 style pistol. I love the way it fits my hand and I’m usually right about how a gun will shoot based on how it feels. I own Sig P365/P365XL, P320 9mm, .40S&W, and .357Sig all 3.6” barrel. Sig P226 Legion, P2022, Sig M11a1/P229 and an Sig 1911 as well as Smith & Wesson 2.0 .40 4” barrel, CZ 75 PRC, Kimber Ultra Carry II 45ACP and revolvers to name a few. I’d end by saying only you know and can decide what you’re gonna like and shoot and training and trial and error is the best teacher. I’m a relatively new shooter starting in 2020 everybody I know has been shooting longer and has more experience than me. I just started buying what I wanted and went to training at the range. I’ll end by saying the CSX is an excellent and well made little pistol and I’m certain it shoots well enough for self defense and I believe from the reliability I’ve experienced with the .40 M&P 2.0 that Smith & Wesson makes a good pistol 🤷🏻♂️
Probably the best gun for going out for a long run or light clothing carry. For me, it's awesome I ran with it which caught my sweat and heat, and it still runs great. I'm also glad I didn't pick gun with optic cuts or light a rail. It's definitely under rated
I got a used range kit version for $400 used after seeing this. I definitely agree that people really missed the mark on what this is meant for. I'm using mine to replace a Model 60 I carry and it's incredible! Especially compared to the 10-12 pound DA pull on my 60.
Thanks for a more recent review on this gun. Be nice to see a comparison of this gun and Sig 938 and a Kimber 9 I wish more gun tubers would tell us this gun is American made
Would love one of these, but haven't seen any on sale either in my local dealers (never even ordered any) or online... So maybe someone tell S&W to discount them so more people can spread the good word
I was able to compare this ans the P938 in the store, I took the Sig, it was good until I got to about 600 rounds then the guide rod broke. Sig sent me a new one, free of cost, made in India 😢. Now I'm concidering getting the CSX and selling the P938. Funny thing is I liked the way the CSX felt and it has better capacity... Oh well.
If the CSX were given to the reviewers instead of them paying for it, their appraisals would’ve been better. The CSX is a good performer. Still hoping for a Performance Center version.
Been carrying this for over 2 yrs and have put over 500rds thru it with zero issues. I do feel like it could’ve came with a 15rd mag instead of 12rd and still be concealable. Maybe if it didn’t get such a bad rap we’d be getting a csx that was full sized.
I want 3 finger grips for 9mm I'm not going to add another caliber. Biggest issue is direct competition with the Shield and Shield Plus- hammer vs striker means nothing to the market...
Love this little gun. It is my everyday carry. I have customized the Finish and added the Talon grips. Love how it shoots when shooting fast and slow. I am not a believer in reset shooting so I have never had any issues with the trigger.
Mine has never had a single failure. Zero. Trigger is crisp. Reset is short. And no, zombies, it doesn't have a false reset. The newer models don't. Mags load fine. But yes, SW botched the rollout.
I have an early one and fixed the mag and reset issues in the first hour it was home.This gun runs everything ive put in it with no issues and fits my hand like s&w made it just for me.After 100s of rounds and years of carry it still even looks like new.none of my other guns have a finish this nice.Or shoot this nice.
So an M&P had an affair with a Sig P938. 12 rounds and a grip that takes a mag adapter to hold 3 fingers plus a safety. In the day of the Hellcat/P365. Too little, way too late.
You act like all these companies aren't hodge podging designs. A sig 938 is a colt mustang that's been redesigned & rebadged. The taurus g2 was the smallest 12 shot 9mm until sig tried to outdo taurus in the size game. It's all relative. Not too little too late
Not acting like anything. All companies don't give a F about us. Taurus? That's not even a legitimate firearms maker. Opinions like attorneys, everybody has one. @@izzyiz810
I wanted one when 1st released but you are right, negative reviews killed my interest. Then I found a great price on a used Sig 365XL, and I love that one.
Nice video! I carried this a lot and I would like to say they made it almost perfect. My only semi-negative issue is that S&W make a takedown lever part mostly flashed to slide release (hard to disassemble). pls if anyone suggests where can I find the aftermarket which is longer than the stock.
Thinking of getting one. Slide is very easy and the safety is ambidextrous. Also it is smaller than the Equalizer. Injury to right hand makes racking a Shield extremely difficult. Thanks Smith & Wesson, more options the better. Thanks for the review
I rented this a week ago. I was really impressed with it. It felt great in my hand and it was accurate. I also think it shoots soft for a gun its size. I noticed the false reset but I don't think its a big deal. When do you use the reset anyway?
Possibly, you are missing, or haven’t located the small blackstrap. The pistol is NOT intended to shoot with the backstrap completely removed. The small insert does leave a large amount of the frame showing…so the small backstrap just provides palm texturing without much side texture. Nonetheless, it does ship with 2 polymer, textured backstraps. I’m a fan, as I want a metal frame and a decent thumb safety, but them, I shot and carried GI 1911s before I ever ventured into the 9mm world.
Gun tube didn’t kill it, it’s terrible. The owner of my favorite gun shop said leave it, and after I tried the trigger and saw how the grip panels were on, I agreed. I wanted to like it, but just couldn’t
I can tell by your comment that you never fired it and never carried. You immediately formed an opinion by listening to someone else’s opinion who also never fired it but sells it in his store. Also here is a question for you? If the owner of your local gun shop is so trustworthy why is he selling a gun to the general public that he thinks is “terrible?” If it is so terrible why is he willing to tell you to stay away from it but sell it to the unsuspecting person of the street? Seems shady 🧐
@@wyominggunproject Not shady, he knows me for a long time, and I wanted something , hammer fired and metal to replace my Sig P365. His opinion was that this gun should not be for this role as my EDC. Nothing dangerous or horrible for the CXS, but it's not a standout model. I also reside in a 10 round magazine state, so the capacity was not the factor. Based on the trigger and the grip panels, it was a no for me.
How sad for you to let others make your decisions.As soon as i shot mine i shelved my P365.Runs any ammo flawlessly,more accurately,and more comfortably than ANY other 9 mm i have.Bought a HK P30sk and traded it back after 2 boxes of ammo because im spoiled by the CSX.Mine was a very early model with the sticky firing pin block causing the false reset and it took less than an hour to fix how the parts blended and operated.
@@zipper396 nobody made my choice. The trigger felt like crap and I do not like the inserts on the grip. Then I saw the reviews, especially Nutnfancy which the grip panels literally fell out while reviewing, lol . Everyone else is crazy I guess
I love the pistol if I could only disassemble! I have taken a lot or weapons apart in my life. I had a FFL and use to parlarize (spelling sucks) for serious hunting. Well that was than this is now. I figured I need three hands and me eyes on moveable stalks to get that damm slide stop out. I cannot hold the pistol, a line the slide stop and drift all at one time. Hahahahaha. I use to carry it and love it but I needed to give it a good cleaning but after several hours of frustration I wiped it down and put it back in its box.I don’t understand why they did not drill a hole on the spring guide like Rock Island did for its 10mm or Kimber did for a ultra carry to aid in disassembly.
I was shopping this gun, no thank you for near $600 out the door. The should revamp it like other models they introduced, CSX2.0, fix the trigger issue already, and then it may sell itself.?
No I wouldn’t and I never said that. There are plenty of other options out there that are cheaper and more popular. What I said was it is a perfectly viable concealed carry option which has some positives and some negatives like all handguns. But it is my opinion that this gun is not as bad as some reviews make it out to be.
@@lens7859 I have most of their"better options" and i still choose the CSX.If i had to give all mine up except for 1 , considering practicality,usability,and personal defense ,i would choose the CSX.
They should've made it in .30 super carry. I haven't bought one because of the 4 stage trigger. Lol. S&W needs to upgrade th trigger and it will sell like hot cakes.
@@zipper396 99% people commenting negatively about this gun have never fired it or even held it in a gun store. The only experience they have with the gun is watching TH-cam videos on it. No real world experience. 🤠
@zipper396 I shot it and had 3 clicks that I thought was the reset. It happened to me. So I'd double pull during rapid fire to get the shot. Glad "your" trigger is perfect for YOU. Here's your 1%. It's not that I don't like it. It's that there's no method to fix that clicking unless sw fixes it. I shot it at my range when it was brand new. I don't take issue with the gun itself. Just the trigger. Oh, I never mentioned pounds. I staid stage. It clicks like a revolver after the shot. That's odd. I have a colt mustang that had a semi crappy trigger. But I did my research. Found out I can jewel the trigger. So I bought it and jewledit. It's awesome now. The day sw does something to fix that feeling. I'll buy one. Itsa nice gun
@@izzyiz810 Izzy you can fix it but you have to smooth the ramp on the firing pin block and polish the arm that rides on it.(thats where the clicks are coming from)Then put a little teflon grease on it.If its the black one from older models oil makes it bind in the hole so thats why i say use the teflon.Later ones they switched to a white teflon button that worked better.I also lightened the spring controling it but it is a real pain to get that assy out.Vids are on youtube to disassemble the CSX if you want to try.S&W would not sell me the updated white FP block so thats why i reworked my original.Mine now shoots with one click reset and about 4.5lb or less pull.
I think the thesis to this video is kind of flawed to begin with in that it overstates the impact that Guntubers have on the wider market. I'm sure some amount of influence can be accounted for, but this will be minor at best. Most people who don't know guns will simply walk into a shop and buy what is available. They aren't watching endless videos about what is new in the firearms market and making fair comparisons between what their needs are and what is available (if you listen to most Guntubers, they will complain about Glock not innovating and that Glock is getting left behind... Glock's sales are doing just fine despite this). No, a given gun's success will be based on its own merits and little else. I think the ultimate problem of the CSX is based on market research. The thing looks like it was intended for people who want a 1911 in a micro-compact and that is honestly not a bad idea. The problem is that most people do not want 1911's and those guys who actually do want 1911's want an actual 1911 (or an accepted variation like a 2011), not something that kind of looks like one but not really (the same people I have heard rail against the Sig P238 as not being a real 1911 because it has an external extractor). The actual market for people who want a metal framed, single action, external safety, hammer fired, micro is likely way smaller than S&W envisioned. Such a product could succeed, but it will take a heck of a lot of marketing it correctly in order for it to reach the appropriate audience without some compelling new feature. The problem is that investors expect hits right out of the gate and when the CSX wasn't an immediate hit, it kind of dissuaded any further investing in the platform.
This gun was panned by almost every TH-camr that got an early production model due to the poorly designed Gen 1 magazines that literally made the sides of the mag bulge out and firing pin plunger which effected trigger pull weight and trigger noise. After S&W fixed the magazine issue and firing pin plunger it was too late. The damage was already done. In my opinion that's Smith & Wesson's fault for sending defective models out for TH-camrs to introduce. I got mine from my local shop slightly used for $250 and it was the Gen 2 version with the blue mag follower and white firing pin plunger. Absolutely no issues with mine at all. I don't mind the noisy trigger. Mine is around 4.5 lbs pull. I have medium sized hands and I don't like the way the trigger feels with my pinky dangling using the 10 round magazine. I got a mag pinky extender and that made all the difference. Like the reviewer noticed the 12 round mag is a really good finger fit for most people and makes the trigger pull easy.
GunTube didn’t kill this gun. S&W killed it by beta testing it on their customers. I never had a problem with the trigger since I did my homework and got one with the white safety plunger button. The beavertail, on the other hand, dug into my paw uncomfortably when firing with a good, high grip on the pistol.
I bought my CSX about 2 years after its release date. Mine doesn't have a false trigger reset, and the trigger pull is 4 lbs, not the 7/7.5 I heard in reviews. It's the best micro 9mm in the market imo
I agree. I like it a lot and it offers a lot of features that the “popular” carry guns lack in that size. Mainly capacity.
Yep me too. I haven’t fired it yet but the trigger is 4 and 4.5 🤷🏻♂️
I have been shooting 40 years. I have put 400 rounds through a rental at the range. Every gun I have shot has a different length and feel of the pull. With every gun you adjust to it. This trigger is absolutely fine.
I’ve been shooting since 1955 when I was four. Back then you shot what you were handed and you adjusted to the gun not the other way around. Too many grip and trigger snowflakes today.
As a person who does NOT use nor care about using trigger reset, I love my CSX. I've never had any issues with it, nor have I ever worried about the "false reset" of the trigger.
Exactly 👍🏻
Right. Its not a comp gun. Reset is no problem.
I EDC a CSX . 600 rounds no hiccups. Love an all metal gun. Slide is like butter smooth.
I would like to complement Smith & Wesson on creating the CSX pistol. I have owned a CSX for over a year. It replaced my M&P Shield PC. The performance has been 100%, maybe better than the Shield. At least it fits and feels better.
I must say, it is unfortunate that the internet “gun experts” missed the target completely. The CSX is a conceal carry gun, and a very good one, period. To compare it to a custom, race, target, or tactical gun, which most all did, is far off base. In a self defense situation, the average guy, or maybe everybody, won’t be shooting to trigger reset, and the slightly stiff trigger, with an adrenaline rush, will never be noticed and probably an advantage for better control.
Is there room for improvement? Of course, nothing is perfect. I’m not a fan of polymer frame guns. The Shield served a purpose and did it well. Once I have the chance to handle the CSX a few times, there wasn’t a doubt in my mind. Too bad the “experts” tarnished what I feel is the best, affordable CCW’s on the market.
This comment pretty much sums up the exact point of the video. Thanks for watching and thanks for the great comment. 🤠
I think TH-camrs also watch each other don’t want to go out on a limb and venture their comments to far from what the crowd is saying:
They all talk about the reset issue on this gun
They all like CZs and never discuss the issues of those guns
They all generally have negatives about hammer fired guns
They all hate thumb safeties and say they wouldn’t carry a gun with a safety
They all like striker fired guns
They all talk patriotic and pro America but promote foreign made guns or foreign owned companies and never highlight the American made guns that employ Americans and have to deal with the anti gun crowd here in the states … they promote America, but they sure don’t promote American-made Guns
I agree with you about this gun getting a bad rap... It was meant to be a concealed carry defensive pistol... 1911ish design that I believe is an awesome pistol.
Yep 👍🏻
Mine works perfectly, S&W addressed the trigger issue so no false reset on the newer guns. The newer ones have the white safety plunger.
Got one . Like it. No problems. My new carry gun for almost a year now.
Yep and that’s all that matters. That you like it and it works for you. 🤠
Another straight up honest review. Nice shooting, looks like an accurate little pistol. The thing is the $$. At $550-575 it's much higher than many of the small carry 9mm's. Smith is dumping Shield plus on the market for less than $400 plus a $50 rebate. So I don't really see a sustainable market for this gun except for those, such as yourself, who have many firearms and wants something a little different. The 1911 format in a little carry pistol gets big Cool points. Would like to see one of these come out of their custom shop where they can resolve some of the quirky issues and take this platform up a notch.
This is an excellent take. I didn’t even think about S&W competing against themselves with the Shield and with this pistol being quirky like you stated people are more than likely to gravitate towards the shield. Thanks for watching man. 🤠
I like this pistol. My training doesn't allow riding the reset. So, no reset issues. Also, in my mind, this is not a plinker. Train with it but use something different for long sessions at the range. Finally, it is a back-up piece for 7 yards. A back-up gun is better than no gun.
My family owns three of these wonderful little 2011-style guns. The first one we bought had just a bit of the "false reset" trigger that can easily be remedied with some very minor gunsmithing. The next two we bought were perfect right out of the box. The build quality, and fit and finish of this gun are on par with guns selling for four figures. The battery of arms is very 1911-ish except that the grip safety which I never liked is replaced by a trigger dongle that's mainly there for drop safety. The manual safety is well-designed. You can rack the slide or cock the hammer with the safety engaged. Having a manual safety makes this one of the few micro-9s I'm willing to carry appendix. I normally carry in 3 o'clock unless I'm wearing jogging shorts or even swim trunks, but it's nice to have that manual safety. You can carry cocked and locked with confidence, and the battery of arms is extremely simple and fast: draw, thumb the safety down, and fire. I'm very happy with the accuracy at the range. I shoot and practice with MagTech +P+ JHP that chronos at 1450 FPS out of this little gun. I have no problem reliably ringing the iron at 25 yards. When practicing with cheap, bucket 'o crap ammo, it's nice to be able to just re-cock the hammer in the event of light primer strikes. With quality service ammo, malfunctions are nonexistent. The last thing I want on a compact, ultra-concealable gun like this are optics that stick out of the top of the slide like an oversized toenail, or a flashlight or laser hanging off a pic rail on the bottom. This gun wears like a piece of fine jewelry. My wife and daughter are both amazed at how gracefully this little gun manages recoil in comparison to other micro-9s they've shot which is one reason they're so happy to carry the CSX. For that matter, the slide operates with a smooth, effortless action that my wife finds very easy to operate with her petite hands. I could recommend this gun to someone elderly or with arthritis. Why settle for a .380 when there's a 9mm that operates as butter-smooth as the CSX? My "big name" polymer frame, pre-cocked striker-fired 9mm is now serving as a home defense gun. For my tastes, this great little gun ticks all the boxes. I'm glad someone else likes it too!
It’s actually UNLIKE the 1911 when it comes to being able to rack the slide with the safety engaged. This is actually better because you cannot do that with a 1911.
I totally agree, I like my CSX. My trigger’s reset is good and you don’t feel a false reset when you shoot. It’s a very good deep conceal or pocket gun. About 400 rounds without a problem.
Great review of the CSX. Thanks Slim.
Thanks for watching Slim 🤠
This dude deserves a million subs . Really good content and posts and the reg, big issue with some decent channels.
Thanks man. Appreciate you 🤠
Not a bad gun - the main issue is the trigger, which I had no issue with this gun. It’s an interesting trigger but is fine for what it’s intended for.
I carry the CSX everyday loaded with 125 grain +p. It’s well balanced and very accurate. I’ve put 100s of rounds through it without a hitch using several different types of ammunition. I have nothing but praise for the design. FYI I’m a lefty and appreciate S&W putting full ambidextrous controls on it👍🏼👍🏼
Sent mine in 3 months ago thinking they might "fix" the slightly gritty trigger. Called yesterday they said it was not able to be repaired and are sending me a new one. Yay I really like it and have had no real issues with the CSX.
I actually think S&W was targeting Law Enforcement with this gun.
The 1911 operating style solves the negligent discharge issue of a small striker fired pocket carry gun. Departments would want the obtuse safety for liability. There are more self inflicted gun shot wounds in law enforcement than get reported. This pretty much says negligent discharge not a gun issue.
Purchased this gun 3 months ago. No trigger reset, appendix carrries incredibly well, I can sit down and move and forget its there. 10 yard bullseye. Incredible cccw gun with that manual safety! Lower recoil than my 365 and 43x , conceals as well as my 365
I’m trying to tell people that this thing is great. 🤠
@@wyominggunproject agreed 💯. I was carrying my 365 exclusively till I got this thing, it really is just better in so many ways than the sig 🤷......and I have pretty much purchased and rotated through all the micro compacts (g43x, canik mete, shield plus, mc2sc, masada slim, hellcat).......my 2 favorites of them all are this CSX and the HK p30 sk (hk for winter and as a hunting sidearm........ csx for literally every other appendix carry scenario)
I actually love mine! Over 5000 rounds and not a failure. All the parroting I hear on youtube about the reset and all that crap are a non issue! It shoots great and feels great in my hand. But for those that don't practice or don't know how to shoot there are other options.
So true. This comment is spot on. 🤠
I agree with this review. The reset can be solved (goggle it). Mine is two year old and only 100 rounds downrange. actually treat it like a revolver and don't shortstroke the trigger. most comfortable pistol to conceal period. love the grip!
Thanks for a real review brother! Even though I cant stand that gun.🤢🤮🤮🤮🤮
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I get it 🤣🤣🤣
I like mine. No problems with the reset, decent trigger. Reliable, not as accurate as some of my full size pistols, but I wouldn't expect it to be. I think I will keep it.
Smith warns you about the trigger in the manual. Page 24. "After firing a shot, you must allow the trigger to move fully forward to reset the mechanism before you can fire the next shot. Failure to let the trigger move fully forward will prevent the lockwork from cycling and will prevent you from being able to fire the next shot." It's notable how many similarities exist with my 40 year old 6906.
Thanks for giving this one a go. I haven't shot one yet, but am impressed with the ergonomics, size and capacity. Trigger did not seem bad at all from dry firing it. Still keeping my eye out for a deal on one. In my experience, no carry piece is perfect, and like with most things, impressions are subjective. You said it best- if you like it and it works for you, what else matters?
Thank you for showing the Glock 42 and 43 in this video. Those 2 guns have been overshadowed by everything that came out after the P365. They're excellent, especially the 42 because of how it shoots compared to most small .380s.
This is my main carry pistol. I love the size. Love that it's all metal. The trigger is probably 6 pounds or so but it's crisp and I shoot it well. The only thing that might ever replace it is one of the newer Shields. I'm not opposed to polymer, I just like the feel of aluminum. My only complaint is the break down, but I understand the requirement if you want ambidextrous controls.
I super glued the sleeve in one spot for my backup magazine.
I wear dress clothes, which for me are notoriously hard to carry in and this pistol hides well.
I hope S&W keeps it around and eventually gets around to giving it a refresh, another marketing push or 2.0 model or something because it doesn't deserve to be relegated to the scrap heap of good guns that just didn't do enough things well enough or better enough compared to the competition and at its price point to get traction. I think the most common criticism about the trigger was an unnuanced nit-pick from guntubers who shoot a ton of different guns every year, to include fantastic single action triggers and wanted this to be something it's not. I'm not sure they're going to be able to keep it around with the Shield and other sub-compact striker-fire models being at least as good and generally less expensive though and a highly competitive market for concealed carry guns from other manufacturers.
Great little hammer fired .only hammer fire I own right now is a ruger lc9 will look into the csx. Great review
Actually bought my csx a year ago after watching many complaints on the false reset. Mine didn't have the false reset issue but that was after the csx has been out for a while, I think s&w fixed the false reset issues, mine runs flawless. It's my edc. Absolutely love shooting my csx, it's such a fantastic gun and I always recommend it to everyone.
It is what it is. Not a gun for everyone. Especially for someone with large hands.
Mine shoots great with no false reset. Remember to practice and train with whatever you carry.
Exactly 🤠
Thanks for your excellent reviews, reasonable, even-handed temperament, and especially responding to comments. Great stuff; keep it up.
Thank you sir and thanks for watching 🤠
I bought a CSX as soon as they became available. I never watched any negative or positive TH-cam review prior to purchase. I liked the size, I liked the features, and I liked the look. The trigger needed work out of the box. The resest was fine, but the pull weight was inconsistent on mine... 5, 7, 12... All over the place, and frustrating to shoot. Later, when getting a good trigger break, I noticed the gun was surprisingly accurate. I took mine apart and carefully massaged the interacting parts until I got a smooth, consistent, 4lb 4oz trigger pull. The part of the trigger that pushes up on the black plastic plunger that allows the firing pin to be released was a really rough interaction. Carefully smoothing out these parts to work together was the key to making a nicer trigger. When new, the trigger would sometimes feel so heavy that it was binding up. My Lyman guage only reads up to 12lbs. I complained to S&W, but they never acknowledged me. That's when I thought screw them, and I started fixing the trigger on my own. I noticed that later production guns came with a smoother sloped white teflon looking plastic plunger. Guns with the white plunger had a better trigger right out of the box, so I guess Smith quietly took care of a problem that they did not acknowledge to me. The 9 Shield Plus is a better gun right out of the box. It has an amazing 4lb ish trigger. That said, I like my CSX the way I fixed it... The way it should have come from S&W. Others I know who bought the CSX all had complaints about the trigger. I handled one that felt like a two bump reset, the first bump being false. I believe a lot of the complaints on this gun were valid. Smith should have come out, owned it, and fixed the problem. If you find one that has a white plunger, you are likely dialed in on the trigger. Beware of guns with a black plunger, unless it's really cheap, and you have the patience to fix it.
I LOVE THIS GUN. Best EDC carry. All metal. Shoots fantastic. SMALL. 1911 style operation. I carry it safety off, hammer down. If I need it, pull hammer back and fire. Perfect in every way. I would never sell it. It lives on my side every day. Trigger is totally awesome! I’ve never once experienced any of the “false reset” BS that TH-cam reviews are showing. NOT ONCE. 100% reliable through hundreds of rounds. It’s so solid. Feels quality. All metal , no plastic frame! Don’t hesitate. Great gun!
Not that its relevant, but I think this is one of the nicest looking pistols as well. It looks cool as hell, truely gorgeous. I like the mix of 1911 with modern polymer wonder nines. Maybe the 365 and all its options overshadowed this a lot. But S&W make some of the best looking pistols imo, the best looking non glock would be the M&P 2.0 for me. Also with that exposed hammer the slide can be shorter as you demonstrated, which would help with less mass at the back of the gun on printing when holstered. Manual safeties have gone out of style, but I think they offer some good benefits. Id love to try one.
The way a firearm looks is very important to a lot of people. It has to look good and well as shoot good. I agree.
I enjoy mine never had a single malfunction with all kinds of ammo. A reliable gun is a good gun.
Exactly 🤠
Yep reminds me of my old Star Firestar. Cool little 1911 wannabe pistol
Honestly think the Firestar series shows a bit more of the 1911 inspiration than the CSX does, what with the overall form factor and all steel construction...and the relatively low capacity for it's size. Simpler takedown than a true 1911, though...
I had my eyes on this gun when they were coming out. I could feel what reviewrs said about the " false reset" so i passed. I hope they worked out the issue and may have another look at it again thanks to this video. I also think S&W went overboard with the trigger safety. They had a great opportunity to place a traditional 1911 style trigger and for whatever reason chose not to use it. Thanks for the a newer review of this model.
I am pretty sure the only guy in Germany who owns and carri3s the CSX since it is still not officially on the German market. I got so tired of waiting, that I imported it. No regrets at all. I love it. Before the CSX I carried the Glock 43x with optic and 15td Shield mags. But I prefer the CSX any day for its manual safety. I wished there were i-dot style night sights available for the CSX.
Nothing wrong with the gun, just gun tubers bashing it for more clicks. The CSX is a unicorn on the micro compact market in so many ways and I love that S&W went all the way to be different.
How are you able to conceal carry in Germany? Just curious.
I bought mine nearly a year ago with the holster ( junk )and extra 12 rd mag and a mag pouch was under 600 out the door.
And this false reset is from the plastic firing pin block that under the slide.
Shame on S&W for putting plastic in the slide 😢
But I never noticed it if there was a false reset …
I bought a nice little leather tuck holster from Muddy Water …. Nice little appendix carry
But I agree the internet killed these sales
I had my eye on the CSX the very first time I saw it. What a beautiful gun at a price I could afford. Took me a couple of months to save up for one. I LOVE the way it fits in my hand, and conceals very well. It also has all the smooth/rounded corners and edges, so it's very comfortable to carry. To me the trigger is amazing for a personal everyday carry, maybe not a competition gun, but that wasn't the point. I only feel the funny reset when I'm at the bench dry firing and trying to find it. Things I don't like: 1- the grip was a little too aggressive for me while tucked up against my side - a touch of sandpaper reduced that nicely. 2 - because it's not so popular, finding holsters/different sights etc. is a little trickier than with something a bit more popular, which makes me sad because it's such an awesome gun.
I just got my CSX 3 days ago and the trigger snobs ruined it. I love mine and couldn’t find one where I am. Had to drive to Manchester Tennessee to by it from an individual from Nashville. That tells me not many people took a chance on this little gun because of these trigger snob clowns. Mine doesn’t even have a false reset. It functions flawlessly. Don’t listen to gun tubers try these guns for yourself
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Yeah the internet is surely misleading, i carry a kimber micro 380 and all i hear is, "kimber sucks" "they dont work" blah blah, it runs flawless with over 1k rounds through it with any and all ammo. I wish i wouldve thought about the CSX before picking up a sig p365 to have a 9mm carry option
I had one. Trigger wouldn't reset. Sold it. They need an aftermarket trigger option.
Having been personally burned by S&W on their 10mm. And then they advertised this as a 1911 style trigger, and then the reports of the false reset, which sounds like it’s not bad but also still there and not a short 1911 reset, then no way. Fool me once, shame on S&W, twice ain’t gonna happen😂
I totally get that. 🤠
Im with you TBP. False reset is real, trigger sucks and the whole gun feels off with 2 totally different textures. Also, the safety working different from a standard 1911 is IMO a bad thing ( sorry WGP, lol) but yeah, its not locked. I like it locked. Ill go with a 9mm shield or shield plus if I "need" capacity. If I really needed capacity I would go with a shield plus in 30 Stupid Carry , with a mag extention of course.
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@@theturkeysopinion Stay tuned because the 30 Stupid Carry Shield is coming 🤣🤣🤣
Oh no...😆
@@theturkeysopinion oh yah, I went there 🤣😂
I own this pistol saw all the gun-tube reviews that highlighted the flaws but purchased it anyway. I own numerous pistols but wanted to have something to fit with my Sig P938 Legion, which is almost exactly the same size except it holds 7+1 9mm. Fully loaded the P938 weights 22.3 ounces and the CSX fully loaded with 12+1 weights 25.1 ounces. Probably with different loads it’s slightly different but for an extra 6 rounds of 9mm it’s not a bad tradeoff.
The P938 is similar in that it’s a 1911 style pistol but both conceal well and are relatively lightweight I sometimes pocket carry with a sticky holster. 😅
Admittedly, the CSX is slightly larger in my pocket but I’m 6’5” 235 so it hides well in tactical pants. It is too large for jeans … or shorts I go with a P238 .380 for that.
Nevertheless, honestly I haven’t fired it yet so I don’t carry it yet 😅. I got it at what I believe was an excellent price because my gun store wanted to move it and they knew I’d like a 1911 style pistol.
I love the way it fits my hand and I’m usually right about how a gun will shoot based on how it feels. I own Sig P365/P365XL, P320 9mm, .40S&W, and .357Sig all 3.6” barrel. Sig P226 Legion, P2022, Sig M11a1/P229 and an Sig 1911 as well as Smith & Wesson 2.0 .40 4” barrel, CZ 75 PRC, Kimber Ultra Carry II 45ACP and revolvers to name a few.
I’d end by saying only you know and can decide what you’re gonna like and shoot and training and trial and error is the best teacher. I’m a relatively new shooter starting in 2020 everybody I know has been shooting longer and has more experience than me. I just started buying what I wanted and went to training at the range.
I’ll end by saying the CSX is an excellent and well made little pistol and I’m certain it shoots well enough for self defense and I believe from the reliability I’ve experienced with the .40 M&P 2.0 that Smith & Wesson makes a good pistol 🤷🏻♂️
Probably the best gun for going out for a long run or light clothing carry. For me, it's awesome I ran with it which caught my sweat and heat, and it still runs great. I'm also glad I didn't pick gun with optic cuts or light a rail. It's definitely under rated
Agreed 👍🏻
This was my first handgun. Love it. Carry it every day. The extra strap is an extra smaller back strap. Not a front strap.
I got a used range kit version for $400 used after seeing this. I definitely agree that people really missed the mark on what this is meant for. I'm using mine to replace a Model 60 I carry and it's incredible! Especially compared to the 10-12 pound DA pull on my 60.
I like my CSX. I agree with all your talking points. The trigger does have that weird reset, but I ran it in a SCSA match last weekend. 😸👍
Good review. To me, this gun has so many...odd features/quirks.. that it was an instant no go for me. Plus the plethora of poor reviews.
Totally get it 🤠
Thanks for a more recent review on this gun.
Be nice to see a comparison of this gun and Sig 938 and a Kimber 9
I wish more gun tubers would tell us this gun is American made
Would love one of these, but haven't seen any on sale either in my local dealers (never even ordered any) or online... So maybe someone tell S&W to discount them so more people can spread the good word
I was able to compare this ans the P938 in the store, I took the Sig, it was good until I got to about 600 rounds then the guide rod broke. Sig sent me a new one, free of cost, made in India 😢. Now I'm concidering getting the CSX and selling the P938. Funny thing is I liked the way the CSX felt and it has better capacity... Oh well.
If the CSX were given to the reviewers instead of them paying for it, their appraisals would’ve been better. The CSX is a good performer. Still hoping for a Performance Center version.
Been carrying this for over 2 yrs and have put over 500rds thru it with zero issues. I do feel like it could’ve came with a 15rd mag instead of 12rd and still be concealable. Maybe if it didn’t get such a bad rap we’d be getting a csx that was full sized.
I love mine! Put NDZ mag extension on both magazines. Looking into whether a light for a Sig P938 will fit. That'd be sweet.
i want one bad. but i wish they would do an optics cut update.
I have seen that request a lot.
I want 3 finger grips for 9mm I'm not going to add another caliber. Biggest issue is direct competition with the Shield and Shield Plus- hammer vs striker means nothing to the market...
Love this little gun. It is my everyday carry. I have customized the Finish and added the Talon grips. Love how it shoots when shooting fast and slow. I am not a believer in reset shooting so I have never had any issues with the trigger.
Ive had mine for 6 months now. Great gun!
This is my favorite ccw have never had any problems with it. Have over 1000 rounds through no malfunction
Haha it was at best a beta test platform. Terrific concept, but it wasn't finished. Worse yet, S&W has made no efforts to actually complete it...
They fixed the false reset and with a 4 lbs trigger pull now. Its good. Look for white firing pin block
What would make it complete exactly?
Just got one. No issues. Love mine, too!
LOVE THIS GUN. but it's NOT a Sub-compact, it's a Micro-compact 9mm
Mine has never had a single failure. Zero. Trigger is crisp. Reset is short. And no, zombies, it doesn't have a false reset. The newer models don't. Mags load fine. But yes, SW botched the rollout.
Right on brother 🤠
I have an early one and fixed the mag and reset issues in the first hour it was home.This gun runs everything ive put in it with no issues and fits my hand like s&w made it just for me.After 100s of rounds and years of carry it still even looks like new.none of my other guns have a finish this nice.Or shoot this nice.
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How did you go about fixing the issues ?
@@Sizmatrz2174 smoothing and lubing and lighter spring on firing pin block(thats where the false reset is/was they supposedly fixed this in newer ones
Considering getting this. My local gun shop guy says he really really likes it.
I think it’s great 👍🏻
Pro-Mag makes 20 rounders that work great. I picked up two.
I would never trust my life to a pro-mag magazine
It should come with an extra "small" backstrap, no front one though. There is a little gap when you apply the "small" backstrap piece.
I didn’t get a small one my box. Will have to go and double check.
It always looked to me like a polished Star BM. Was there much of a demand for that?
So an M&P had an affair with a Sig P938. 12 rounds and a grip that takes a mag adapter to hold 3 fingers plus a safety. In the day of the Hellcat/P365. Too little, way too late.
You act like all these companies aren't hodge podging designs. A sig 938 is a colt mustang that's been redesigned & rebadged. The taurus g2 was the smallest 12 shot 9mm until sig tried to outdo taurus in the size game. It's all relative. Not too little too late
More like M&P Shield crossed with the Equalizer, maybe even the SD9
Not acting like anything. All companies don't give a F about us. Taurus? That's not even a legitimate firearms maker. Opinions like attorneys, everybody has one. @@izzyiz810
This is way better than Hellcat or P365,Try one .
Iam unsure about the trigger.
Best micro 9mm high capacity pistol available bar none. Not polymer, ALL METAL. None better.
That thing is straight Cookin
Good review by the way. Well done 👍
Thanks man 🤠
I wanted one when 1st released but you are right, negative reviews killed my interest. Then I found a great price on a used Sig 365XL, and I love that one.
Good Choice 👍🏻
Thank you
Thanks for watching 🤠
I love my CSX TH-cam is wrong on this one it broke the mold in not being a Glock clone.
Love mine, had it since July no problems what so ever 800 rounds through it so far
Nice video! I carried this a lot and I would like to say they made it almost perfect. My only semi-negative issue is that S&W make a takedown lever part mostly flashed to slide release (hard to disassemble). pls if anyone suggests where can I find the aftermarket which is longer than the stock.
a little bit of crazy glue solve the problem of magazine rubber, csx is my every day carry for last 2 years and is excellent
My only complaint is the field stripping of the gun to clean it.
Fair point 🤠
Thinking of getting one. Slide is very easy and the safety is ambidextrous.
Also it is smaller than the Equalizer.
Injury to right hand makes racking a Shield extremely difficult.
Thanks Smith & Wesson, more options the better.
Thanks for the review
Thanks for watching man 🤠
I rented this a week ago. I was really impressed with it. It felt great in my hand and it was accurate. I also think it shoots soft for a gun its size. I noticed the false reset but I don't think its a big deal. When do you use the reset anyway?
In a defensive handgun? I never use the reset.
Possibly, you are missing, or haven’t located the small blackstrap. The pistol is NOT intended to shoot with the backstrap completely removed. The small insert does leave a large amount of the frame showing…so the small backstrap just provides palm texturing without much side texture. Nonetheless, it does ship with 2 polymer, textured backstraps. I’m a fan, as I want a metal frame and a decent thumb safety, but them, I shot and carried GI 1911s before I ever ventured into the 9mm world.
I think I am missing the small backstrap. I still have the box and I will double check it. I bought it brand new from the LGS.
The profile of it is nice
Love mine no problems never had any and carry it regularly
Gun tube didn’t kill it, it’s terrible. The owner of my favorite gun shop said leave it, and after I tried the trigger and saw how the grip panels were on, I agreed. I wanted to like it, but just couldn’t
I can tell by your comment that you never fired it and never carried. You immediately formed an opinion by listening to someone else’s opinion who also never fired it but sells it in his store. Also here is a question for you? If the owner of your local gun shop is so trustworthy why is he selling a gun to the general public that he thinks is “terrible?” If it is so terrible why is he willing to tell you to stay away from it but sell it to the unsuspecting person of the street? Seems shady 🧐
@@wyominggunproject Not shady, he knows me for a long time, and I wanted something , hammer fired and metal to replace my Sig P365. His opinion was that this gun should not be for this role as my EDC. Nothing dangerous or horrible for the CXS, but it's not a standout model. I also reside in a 10 round magazine state, so the capacity was not the factor. Based on the trigger and the grip panels, it was a no for me.
Dude! I doubt you even tried the trigger! 🤣😂🤣😂
How sad for you to let others make your decisions.As soon as i shot mine i shelved my P365.Runs any ammo flawlessly,more accurately,and more comfortably than ANY other 9 mm i have.Bought a HK P30sk and traded it back after 2 boxes of ammo because im spoiled by the CSX.Mine was a very early model with the sticky firing pin block causing the false reset and it took less than an hour to fix how the parts blended and operated.
@@zipper396 nobody made my choice. The trigger felt like crap and I do not like the inserts on the grip. Then I saw the reviews, especially Nutnfancy which the grip panels literally fell out while reviewing, lol . Everyone else is crazy I guess
Works great. Liked mine since day one and i have a lot of pistols. This gun was destroyed by a few shills
Yep. Totally agree 🤠
I love the pistol if I could only disassemble! I have taken a lot or weapons apart in my life. I had a FFL and use to parlarize (spelling sucks) for serious hunting. Well that was than this is now. I figured I need three hands and me eyes on moveable stalks to get that damm slide stop out. I cannot hold the pistol, a line the slide stop and drift all at one time. Hahahahaha. I use to carry it and love it but I needed to give it a good cleaning but after several hours of frustration I wiped it down and put it back in its box.I don’t understand why they did not drill a hole on the spring guide like Rock Island did for its 10mm or Kimber did for a ultra carry to aid in disassembly.
How's it compare to the sig 938?
It’s smaller and it holds more rounds 🤠
I was shopping this gun, no thank you for near $600 out the door. The should revamp it like other models they introduced, CSX2.0, fix the trigger issue already, and then it may sell itself.?
I liked mine so much, i bought a second one....go figure
Their loss is my gain, never believe just TH-cam reviews 😅
I love this Gun!
Me Too 🤠
If someone can afford one handgun, would that be the one you would recommend???
No I wouldn’t and I never said that. There are plenty of other options out there that are cheaper and more popular. What I said was it is a perfectly viable concealed carry option which has some positives and some negatives like all handguns. But it is my opinion that this gun is not as bad as some reviews make it out to be.
@@wyominggunproject agreed, just seems like all the Tubers opinions are that there are so many better options out there.
@@lens7859 I have most of their"better options" and i still choose the CSX.If i had to give all mine up except for 1 , considering practicality,usability,and personal defense ,i would choose the CSX.
@@zipper396 that’s what makes a horse race, we have choices
They should've made it in .30 super carry. I haven't bought one because of the 4 stage trigger. Lol. S&W needs to upgrade th trigger and it will sell like hot cakes.
Dude if they made this in 30 Super Carry I would pick that one up too. 🤠
Dont know who told you that about the trigger,but mine is less than 4.5lbs and crisp.
@@zipper396 99% people commenting negatively about this gun have never fired it or even held it in a gun store. The only experience they have with the gun is watching TH-cam videos on it. No real world experience. 🤠
@zipper396 I shot it and had 3 clicks that I thought was the reset. It happened to me. So I'd double pull during rapid fire to get the shot. Glad "your" trigger is perfect for YOU. Here's your 1%. It's not that I don't like it. It's that there's no method to fix that clicking unless sw fixes it. I shot it at my range when it was brand new. I don't take issue with the gun itself. Just the trigger. Oh, I never mentioned pounds. I staid stage. It clicks like a revolver after the shot. That's odd. I have a colt mustang that had a semi crappy trigger. But I did my research. Found out I can jewel the trigger. So I bought it and jewledit. It's awesome now. The day sw does something to fix that feeling. I'll buy one. Itsa nice gun
@@izzyiz810 Izzy you can fix it but you have to smooth the ramp on the firing pin block and polish the arm that rides on it.(thats where the clicks are coming from)Then put a little teflon grease on it.If its the black one from older models oil makes it bind in the hole so thats why i say use the teflon.Later ones they switched to a white teflon button that worked better.I also lightened the spring controling it but it is a real pain to get that assy out.Vids are on youtube to disassemble the CSX if you want to try.S&W would not sell me the updated white FP block so thats why i reworked my original.Mine now shoots with one click reset and about 4.5lb or less pull.
I think the thesis to this video is kind of flawed to begin with in that it overstates the impact that Guntubers have on the wider market. I'm sure some amount of influence can be accounted for, but this will be minor at best. Most people who don't know guns will simply walk into a shop and buy what is available. They aren't watching endless videos about what is new in the firearms market and making fair comparisons between what their needs are and what is available (if you listen to most Guntubers, they will complain about Glock not innovating and that Glock is getting left behind... Glock's sales are doing just fine despite this).
No, a given gun's success will be based on its own merits and little else. I think the ultimate problem of the CSX is based on market research. The thing looks like it was intended for people who want a 1911 in a micro-compact and that is honestly not a bad idea. The problem is that most people do not want 1911's and those guys who actually do want 1911's want an actual 1911 (or an accepted variation like a 2011), not something that kind of looks like one but not really (the same people I have heard rail against the Sig P238 as not being a real 1911 because it has an external extractor).
The actual market for people who want a metal framed, single action, external safety, hammer fired, micro is likely way smaller than S&W envisioned. Such a product could succeed, but it will take a heck of a lot of marketing it correctly in order for it to reach the appropriate audience without some compelling new feature. The problem is that investors expect hits right out of the gate and when the CSX wasn't an immediate hit, it kind of dissuaded any further investing in the platform.
This gun was panned by almost every TH-camr that got an early production model due to the poorly designed Gen 1 magazines that literally made the sides of the mag bulge out and firing pin plunger which effected trigger pull weight and trigger noise. After S&W fixed the magazine issue and firing pin plunger it was too late. The damage was already done. In my opinion that's Smith & Wesson's fault for sending defective models out for TH-camrs to introduce. I got mine from my local shop slightly used for $250 and it was the Gen 2 version with the blue mag follower and white firing pin plunger. Absolutely no issues with mine at all. I don't mind the noisy trigger. Mine is around 4.5 lbs pull. I have medium sized hands and I don't like the way the trigger feels with my pinky dangling using the 10 round magazine. I got a mag pinky extender and that made all the difference. Like the reviewer noticed the 12 round mag is a really good finger fit for most people and makes the trigger pull easy.
Looks nice but there are too many malfunctions for me
GunTube didn’t kill this gun. S&W killed it by beta testing it on their customers.
I never had a problem with the trigger since I did my homework and got one with the white safety plunger button. The beavertail, on the other hand, dug into my paw uncomfortably when firing with a good, high grip on the pistol.