What do you recommend for different viewing angles? I have a TN monitor and it sucks because the viewing angles will either get brighter or darker depending on the angle you are viewing at. Which Monitor do you recommend for 4K(3840x2160) 144hz 1ms? I want it to be clear no matter which angle you view from so that when I have friends over they see what I see.
@@TotallydubbedHD Ok I need to get a IPS monitor. Money is no object so I will try to find a 48" IPS 4K because sometimes I do want to lay down in bed and watch movies and television before bedtime. Thank you so much.
@@TotallydubbedHD I found a 48" it says it's both IPS and OLED. Not sure if it's true or not or if it makes a difference. BenQ MOBIUZ EX480UZ Gaming Monitor 48" 4K UHD 120Hz 1ms w/ Remote | OLED | HDRi | 98% DCI-P3 | Freesync Premium | 2x5W Speakers 10W Sub | DisplayPort | HDMI | USB-C (90W)
Basically it comes down to what annoys you the least.... VA - black smearing, worse viewing angles, mostly curved IPS - horrible contrast, possible IPS glow/back light bleed, flat except for ultrawides Samsung with their high end VA panels, give you the best features from both in theory, but they have an extreme curve and bad quality control considering the price. OLED would be perfect for everything if it didn't have the burn-in risk, wasn't so expensive, and have so few choices for different sizes, refresh rates, and resolution.
@@s1gnex I said in the original comment Samsung with their high end VA panels aka your G7 give the best of both worlds. They are the only VA panels don't smear basically. Tons of people have had other quality control issues with their G7s though on Reddit, so the odds of getting a good one seem difficult I personally can't stand the curve but it's a great monitor overall if it works as intended.
Recently purchased a Philips VA panel, and other than the discoloration when viewing at extreme angles, I can't say that I'm noticing any of the other issues being brought up by tech sites. I'm pretty happy with my VA purchase.
@@TotallydubbedHD I was going mainly by limited personal experience and the fact that the LG 27UL500 I've got recently doesn't seem to have any backlight bleed and this was also noted by reviewers. Meanwhile my brother had his Philips 273V7Q thin bezel monitor replaced twice due to noticeable backlight bleed. There may be of course other factors involved and probably also a bit of luck.
Rocking dual monitors, I actually prefer VA it has deeper blacks, not OLED level, but a hundred times better than IPS where the backlight is very noticeable.
I'm so confused. In the beginning starting at 00:08 it literally looks like the one on the right is the VA panel and the one on the left is the IPS. The one on the right has way more contrast and basically 0 glow while the one on the left has less contrast and glow like hell. Then when you showed the viewing angles I was mistaken, but what is going on here? Is there a light shining directly on the VA or could it be that the VA just doesn't have proper settings set. Thx for the video!
other way around, IPS one is right, VA is left, but I wouldn't go on camera appearances to tell the differences, as it's never realistic, rather look a the results shared and the information provided :)
@@TotallydubbedHD yea I get that comparing monitors through camera appearances is not ideal but if you look at this IPS vs VA comparison for example th-cam.com/video/zrqikQMF_zE/w-d-xo.html it shows that the VA has more contrast and a lot less glow. Maybe it's the shiny room that is making the VA seem to have a lower contrast since the linked video was taken in a dark room.
Here’s my take after doing my own research: 1) Most reviewers don’t adjust their settings properly, and IPS tend to have better settings out of the box. So many have the impression that VA doesn’t have better color. But that’s not true, VA nowadays have improved their color substantially. Just look at it this way, how can a monitor produce better color when it cannot produce proper black? 2) Ghosting may not be that apparent as you think. Most of the time only for those super hardcore gamers, who are nitpicking monitors. 3) viewing angle problem most likely fixed across most brand
@@TotallydubbedHD Answer me this, why there isn't many or any reviewers out there did a blind monitor test? Get a group of people, go through 3 different screens and choose which one is better looking. Because in reality, i bet the result would be eye opening. I did my research, without pre-assumption for both IPS & VA. i ended up liking VA more to IPS. I'm not saying IPS is inferior in anyway, but for the premium price of IPS panels, i'd say VA is more bang for the bucks
@@shunae86 because getting a group of people is hard enough and costs money, and the realm of monitor reviewing is rather niche, let alone looking at a specific panel technology.
@@TotallydubbedHD 100% disagree about realm of monitoring reviewing being niche. I’ve watched so many monitor reviews over past weeks and still there’s more. Ok, maybe looking for people is hard for you, and your friend expects payment from you. Then it’s really hard for you, I get it, although I can’t understand why. Nvm, let someone else do it then
@@diysai but i will always choose va contrast ratio vs IPS viewing angle i have seen the case with elden ring ainsel river area VA with deep blacks shines there i personally use a viewsonic VA monitor with 4000:1 contrast ratio.
A VA monitor looks better in most games such as God of War or Elden Ring or anything else that is played for story and graphics! FPS or first person shooter games are a problem at high frames per second where the smearing becomes apparent and can make it harder to play smoothly, however if you just want to play at 60-90 frames per second the smearing is not that apparent and it's the same as in normal 60 hz IPS monitors and as a non-competitive player playing mostly for fun......I didn't knew what ghosting was until I needed a new monitor and I got a VA monitor and the difference in contrast is stunning, but if you play high FPS games more than 90 frames per second(most kids do) you'll see a lot of black smearing and it becomes annoying since the eye doesn't need to focus it can see it even subconsciously! So yeah I prefer VA more since I play Call of Duty at 60 fps and don't seem to have a problem, but kids get angry because they need to play it at 144 fps so they can feel like a champ when playing online. It really depends on how many fps you play and what you like to play because black smearing becomes a problem only above 90 fps!
@johnclayton4946 thank you so much for this useful info, I was looking all over for this exact experience. I play at 50fps and I have a VA panel so I've never experienced this. Do movies and general web browsing also show this behavior if the monitor is set to 144hz refresh rate? In looking to buy a high refresh rate monitor but I'll be gaming at 60fps or below.
The LG UR78 series has an odd-one-out as according to a specs site only the 50" sets have VA panels. I am upgrading from a 1080p that has IPS, and I can't find this info on the LG site. The "smearing" in gaming is a concern, but the darker blacks would be welcome. I expect the TVs to be identical except for size, so a difference of panel is a big thing to be quiet about.
@@DaveThompsonfairlife4all three monitors from 2015 era, and then a very old TV and a small monitor from 2012 lol. Sure, it counts versus the 250+ others I've reviewed in that time. Maybe for context: LG only works with paid influencers or publications, and I'm not one of them. Maybe that will sound even more strange to you :)
the philips VA panel, what response times does it have at 60 hz? Will it work well for consoles where many games run at 30 or 60 fps? Thank you for your work
This really good when comparing them side by side. A lot easier to spot the differences. Also side note, the ips one looks lot better imo. I prefer tvs with Va or oled over ips, but monitors at least most of the va panels are pretty mediocre cause the blurr, ghosting and such. Samsung makes some good ones, g7 or g9 series iirc but those arent cheap either.
can you test the new AOC CQ27G4X monitor? Its a fairly new monitor that came out in the summer in 2024. This one is a VA panel and its a newer tech over their amazing Q27G3XMN, with the G4x supposedly having a much better black smeering and improves on the red tint of the XMN panel.
Excellent review, thanks 👍 Actually, I'm on a 34" LG IPS 144Hz panel looking to jump to the behemoth 49" variants from AOC (and PHILIPS) Both of them has the same samsung 1800R VA panels with 4ms GTG & 165Hz. Will be using mostly for work & light gaming. I'm not a hardcore gamer at all. But, I'm really worried about the "dark mode" performance of this VA panel with white text / dark background as I asked your opinion before and which you replied as "nothing overly abnormal" I'm still undecided on which to choose: AOC Agon AG493UCX2 165Hz or Philips 498P9Z 165 Hz and should I go with VA over the IPS experience? 🧐
Glad you liked the comparison! As for those two in question, from memory I preferred the AOC; the Philips has its own USP though for productivity. Indeed, being more expensive panels, as mentioned in this video - I didn't notice anything abnormal. If I had, like I did in this video comparison, I would have highlighted it :)
@@colinpierre3441 I did buy the PHILIPS 498P9Z @165hz & it's a perfect match for me. No Dark Smearing, No Flicker etc. Although it's a VA Panel it's not behaving like one. Maybe it's an improved VA model. Tested with all monitor tests & tried scrolling white text on black background (dark mode) at various speeds and surprisingly there's NO Black Smearing at all. Text always stays clear. Price / Performance is very good. If u need a 49" behemoth, I do strongly recommend the PHILIPS 498P9Z! PS: My GPU is a XFX RX 6700XT so I've no idea about nVidia performance. With this setup, I get 66 FPS in SOTTR @ High/Ultra (mixed) settings. I was thinking of buying the RX 7900 XT but I'm OK with 66 FPS in this resolution (5120 x 1440) for now. So, I can wait for the discounts and then get the RX 7900 XT as the final touch. Daily use is buttery smooth @ 165hz👍
Do you think a VA is good for a ps5? I was just confused what was a VA and a IPS or it doesn’t really matter bc I’m not on a pc so it won’t effect my gameplay too much
Just subbed! Really informative and at the same time, got me overthinking even more :D What do you think about the Samsung G50 model compared to the Gigabyte M27 (talking about IPS), and also the Gigabyte G27 curved (VA)... I'm constantly changing my mind about which one to get, I'm not every into competitive gaming, I love games like The WItcher or RDR2, and I'm drawn to the contrast advantage of the VA, but the IPS has a wider color specter, and I don't know which type would showcase those games better... Came here for information, but will stay for the content! Cheers!
Thanks buddy, glad you found it useful! Can't comment about those two as I've not tried them - however, what you've mentioned would be my thoughts as well. I'd lean towards the VA if I were you.
@@qzoid3060 I bought Dell s2721dgf since it had really good reviews and an overall positive feedback, it's an IPS, it's got a great color palate, and it looks great! I decided to go with IPS because I figured I would use that display for other stuff too, not just gaming. Still waiting for the new PC to arrive so I can really test some games on it though...
@@adrianosantos999 Oh well I guess it depends on the brand. I ended up buying a Samsung VA and a Dell IPS... after using both for a while I no longer notice and I'm not bothered by the smearing on the VA, but maybe because Samsung doesn't have much.
Do you think I should get a VA or IPS panel? I currently have 4 Acer monitors in a quad mount system, 2 24” 1080p 100hz monitors up top, and 2 27” 1440p 75hz monitors on the bottom. I’m thinking about getting a 2k 27” Acer monitor with a refresh rate of at least 165hz, which I will mainly use for games like Battlefield V. I should also mention that all of my Acer monitors are IPS panels, and combine to display a background. I really like the look of the IPS display and also HDR support is pretty important for me, however I’ve heard that VA has better contrasts but is also prone to smearing. Which one do you think I should go with? For reference, my system specs are an RTX 4080, Ryzen 7 5700, and 64gb of 3600mhz DDR4 ram. For single player games I primarily play on my 4k tv.
@@TotallydubbedHD Received it today. What can I say, seems great out of the box, needs perhaps a little calibration, but decent even without it. I have no other tests than just some games, and they look good. Thanks for the video!
thank you for great review , please i need help to pick a monitor . im playing diablo 4 , cod , lol . i not sure who should i pick : asus tuf VG27AQA1A or VG27AQ1A , from what is see - one is ips and one is va panel . what should i chose ?
Hi, which one of these panel types is best suited for reading & productivity? Many of the panels available in my region are either VA or IPS. Thank you.
Hello! Sorry for bothering. I'm looking for a new monitor. I have the Ryzen 5 5600 and the RX 6700 XT. I do translation work and play games casually, especially open-world games. I saw the HP Omen 25i and the Gigabyte G27Q. Knowing that these monitors have different characteristics, which of them would be better?
@@leonelredolfo8466 I would suggest watching the video and researching the reviews of both to make your own decision. If you want other monitor suggestions, I suggest checking my best monitor guide found on my TH-cam homepage.
Hi, I'm planning to buy a 27" monitor and can't decide between 3 monitors... I play some games just for fun, when I can, watch some movies and the rest is the normal use. I know that for my profile, I'd be better off with and IPS flat screen but.. all my choices are curved and VA screens. :P My choices are: - AOC Gaming 27" C27G2ZE VA FHD 240Hz FreeSync 0.5ms - Dell 27" S2721HGF FHD 144hz FreeSync Premium 1ms - AOC Gaming 27" C27G2ZU VA FHD 240Hz 0.5ms FreeSync I know the Dell monitor is one your favourites in this "range" and that's why it shows on my list, but from these 3 which one would you buy? Thank You and congrats for the great channel!
İf youre a real e sports player, always choose TN panel, so fast so good.If youre doing half of evrything,playing games,,watching movies, making some videos ,u can choose VA with no regret.But if u re a screen artist, product maker etc.. you must choose ips.
Hey, I know it's not really related to the topic of the video but I need your advice on which monitor to get. I'm torn between 3 The philips monitor from this review (IPS) 170€ AOC 24G2 180€ Samsung Odyssey G5 2k 144hz 210€ Samsung seems to be the best option on paper being the largest and having 1440p display, but I heard it had some issues.
Don't get the g5 if you like to play story games with cinematics or watch TV. Everytime there is a dark part of a cutscene or youtube video there is dark blocks you can see on both the monitors I have.
Does freesync premium work between 40 to 60 hz? Also, will ghosting be less of an issue during desktop usage at higher refresh rates like 120 and above?
would you recommend a Viewsonic XG2431 or LG Ultragear - 27Gp750-B (LG is 30 dollars cheaper in my country) - I like the looks of LG way more + the size, no one has complains for it but viwsonic is being considered the best for ghosting, I dont think i will notice too much with the LG, what do you think ?
0:21 this issue I am seeing this in clouding effect in my VA monitor too. This weird clouding effect which much worse the IPS bleed. Is this some defect in the panel or inherent limitation of VA? I was thinking of getting an Odyssey G7, I heard those don't have this clouding effect.
@@TotallydubbedHD Switched to IPS monitor. IDK! whats the reason even with low contrast IPS just look right. It preserves the details and brings photorealism to any scene. VA just makes everything cartoonish and neonish.
@@aquamanxhighlight5723 IPS and VA monitors are so cheap nowadays, that the only reason for buying a TN monitor would be ultra-fast response times for gaming.
My friend! can u help me to choose the best price/quality IPS 1080p 240hz monitor? You will help me a lot! im located in Belgium. ( playing mostly csgo, supreme with my old 75 hz :) )
@@TotallydubbedHD from that list only AOC 24G2ZU is IPS 1080 240 but it looks really too gaming and bright for me with that red colors :( maybe something more classic ? and not so aggressive?
I want more Streaming like Netflix and Amazon with good black colour if i watch dark movies and i don't play much gaming, what monitor should i choose? VA or IPS Panel?
@@TotallydubbedHD I bought a new graphics card and DP cable, same issue. And there are a lot of threads in the internet that proof that it's the VA Panels fault.
i'm a ps5 story game player, a video editor and a coder/programmer. I also enjoy many many movies and i still can't decide what should i get. ips or va? (edit: i really hope you reply in less than a week because my birthday is coming :) )
Im thinking about Philips 27M1F5500P00 But there arent so much review about color accuracy etc.. for gaming and doing youtube videos. But good review about differents betwee ips and va!
That's a hard one, but I'd opt for 144hz as a gamer. But equally refresh rate isn't everything - input lag and response time are equally if not more important
fun fact: Philips are pretty good monitor, my 10-year old 24" 1080p IPS 60hz panel is running strong! While my AOC 24" 1080p 144hz 1ms IPS Gaming monitor had problem with the panel after only 2 years WTF?? lucky me it had warranty for 3 years so I got a coupon for my €219 (euro) to buy a new monitor! my new monitor will be: LG ULTRA GEAR 27GN600 for €265 (euro) hopefully it will be good!
I like that your VA monitor is flat. Most VA monitors are curved. Its kind of rare to see a flat one. Not that it matters much but I thought it was interesting
If I purchase a monitor with a VA panel and a 4ms response time, and a refresh rate of only 75Hz, will ghosting and black smearing be minimal? Or are these factors not interrelated?
MSI G24C4 E2 23.6" 180Hz FHD Gaming Monitor With Va panel is better or ViewSonic VX2405-P-MHD 24 inch 144Hz Full HD IPS Gaming Monitor ips panel or Acer Nitro VG240Y Sbmiipx 23.8 inch 165Hz FHD IPS Gaming Monitor which should I pick for competitive gaming + anime watching
Excellent review, definitely going for VA for all rounded use, office/videos/photo editing/gaming. On a side note what game is that you were playing at the start?
@@PuppetMasterdaath144 Yep. Low contrast display is just awful to look at. It's not just bad looking, it's actually uncomfortable. I can describe how much I regret "upgrading" from VA to IPS. Unless you play only "hardcore competetive" games you shouldn't listen to people who recommend IPS over VA. At the very least you should try to evaluate how both technologies perform with your own eyes before making a choice.
@@juanblanco7898 G7 if bough underpriced is well known to be considered most bang for the buck in terms of what you get for your money. Fact is that TH-cam video owners are all borderline psychotic and only care about clickbait
Buy the Philips 24M1N3200ZA from Amazon: locally.link/QN3e
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Video timestamps:
Intro & price: 00:00
Input lag: 01:44
Response time: 03:05
Contrast ratio: 06:58
Image quality: 08:06
Backlight bleed: 11:58
Verdict: 12:53
What do you recommend for different viewing angles? I have a TN monitor and it sucks because the viewing angles will either get brighter or darker depending on the angle you are viewing at. Which Monitor do you recommend for 4K(3840x2160) 144hz 1ms? I want it to be clear no matter which angle you view from so that when I have friends over they see what I see.
@@williamr1088 IPS is the superior tech for viewing angles. As for my recommendations, watch this video: th-cam.com/video/tGH3SJpoOAQ/w-d-xo.html
@@TotallydubbedHD Ok I need to get a IPS monitor. Money is no object so I will try to find a 48" IPS 4K because sometimes I do want to lay down in bed and watch movies and television before bedtime. Thank you so much.
@@williamr1088 no worries, enjoy!
@@TotallydubbedHD I found a 48" it says it's both IPS and OLED. Not sure if it's true or not or if it makes a difference.
BenQ MOBIUZ EX480UZ Gaming Monitor 48" 4K UHD 120Hz 1ms w/ Remote | OLED | HDRi | 98% DCI-P3 | Freesync Premium | 2x5W Speakers 10W Sub | DisplayPort | HDMI | USB-C (90W)
Basically it comes down to what annoys you the least....
VA - black smearing, worse viewing angles, mostly curved
IPS - horrible contrast, possible IPS glow/back light bleed, flat except for ultrawides
Samsung with their high end VA panels, give you the best features from both in theory, but they have an extreme curve and bad quality control considering the price.
OLED would be perfect for everything if it didn't have the burn-in risk, wasn't so expensive, and have so few choices for different sizes, refresh rates, and resolution.
Yup, everything has its pros and cons; agreed with you on all points!
I have the Samsung g7 and don't see any smearing.
@@s1gnex I said in the original comment Samsung with their high end VA panels aka your G7 give the best of both worlds. They are the only VA panels don't smear basically.
Tons of people have had other quality control issues with their G7s though on Reddit, so the odds of getting a good one seem difficult I personally can't stand the curve but it's a great monitor overall if it works as intended.
Man! What can you say about DELL S2722DGM have black smearing ?
@@gman3559 if I've reviewed it, go watch the review, if I haven't I can't tell you.
13:09 The IPS seems to give deeper greens in the background here and looks much better as a result IMO.
Ips out of the box is always more vibrant than a va out of the box
@@OfficialTactiq yeah, VA needs tuning
Recently purchased a Philips VA panel, and other than the discoloration when viewing at extreme angles, I can't say that I'm noticing any of the other issues being brought up by tech sites.
I'm pretty happy with my VA purchase.
Pleased for you!
Definitely VA for me, the blacks are simply too washed out on the IPS. I’ll take 3000:1 over 1000:1 any day.
Thanks for sharing!
So the VA has more contrast but the IPS has better image quality, thats interesting because you'd think contrast has a large affect on image quality.
That's right, generally.
11:58 - maybe it's a bit anecdotal, but backlight bleed seems to be more prominent on monitors with thin bezels.
Can't say that's something I've noticed!
@@TotallydubbedHD I was going mainly by limited personal experience and the fact that the LG 27UL500 I've got recently doesn't seem to have any backlight bleed and this was also noted by reviewers. Meanwhile my brother had his Philips 273V7Q thin bezel monitor replaced twice due to noticeable backlight bleed. There may be of course other factors involved and probably also a bit of luck.
Rocking dual monitors, I actually prefer VA it has deeper blacks, not OLED level, but a hundred times better than IPS where the backlight is very noticeable.
Thanks for sharing!
I'm so confused. In the beginning starting at 00:08 it literally looks like the one on the right is the VA panel and the one on the left is the IPS. The one on the right has way more contrast and basically 0 glow while the one on the left has less contrast and glow like hell. Then when you showed the viewing angles I was mistaken, but what is going on here? Is there a light shining directly on the VA or could it be that the VA just doesn't have proper settings set. Thx for the video!
other way around, IPS one is right, VA is left, but I wouldn't go on camera appearances to tell the differences, as it's never realistic, rather look a the results shared and the information provided :)
@@TotallydubbedHD yea I get that comparing monitors through camera appearances is not ideal but if you look at this IPS vs VA comparison for example th-cam.com/video/zrqikQMF_zE/w-d-xo.html it shows that the VA has more contrast and a lot less glow. Maybe it's the shiny room that is making the VA seem to have a lower contrast since the linked video was taken in a dark room.
Here’s my take after doing my own research:
1) Most reviewers don’t adjust their settings properly, and IPS tend to have better settings out of the box. So many have the impression that VA doesn’t have better color.
But that’s not true, VA nowadays have improved their color substantially.
Just look at it this way, how can a monitor produce better color when it cannot produce proper black?
2) Ghosting may not be that apparent as you think. Most of the time only for those super hardcore gamers, who are nitpicking monitors.
3) viewing angle problem most likely fixed across most brand
There's quite a lot wrong with your points, but you're welcome to your own opinion.
@@TotallydubbedHD Answer me this, why there isn't many or any reviewers out there did a blind monitor test?
Get a group of people, go through 3 different screens and choose which one is better looking.
Because in reality, i bet the result would be eye opening.
I did my research, without pre-assumption for both IPS & VA. i ended up liking VA more to IPS. I'm not saying IPS is inferior in anyway, but for the premium price of IPS panels, i'd say VA is more bang for the bucks
@@shunae86 because getting a group of people is hard enough and costs money, and the realm of monitor reviewing is rather niche, let alone looking at a specific panel technology.
@@TotallydubbedHD 100% disagree about realm of monitoring reviewing being niche. I’ve watched so many monitor reviews over past weeks and still there’s more.
Ok, maybe looking for people is hard for you, and your friend expects payment from you. Then it’s really hard for you, I get it, although I can’t understand why.
Nvm, let someone else do it then
@@shunae86 lol okay; I'm glad you're watching monitor reviews though!
IPS has better color, but I like the dark levels in VA more. I’m just using an AOC VA panel as a side monitor and I love it to death.
I love how you reply to every comment bro
Thanks buddy!
I don't think viewing angles in monitor matters because you will be always sitting in front of it.
It's still a consideration for some (especially larger panels)
It matters in case of wide monitors. You will notice brightness and colors changing from the center to the edges.
Agreed.
Especially in gaming, why would I sit anywhere else?
@@diysai but i will always choose va contrast ratio vs IPS viewing angle i have seen the case with elden ring ainsel river area VA with deep blacks shines there i personally use a viewsonic VA monitor with 4000:1 contrast ratio.
@gaganpreetxp but what is your monitors size and resolution? I also have a VA panel ultragear 32 inch. But it's 16:9
90% of the gamers are casual , only 10% are pro gamers/ you tubers /esports, so doesn't really matters the ips speed for most of them
Yup, many are, but do remember what I said about the visual experience too :)
A VA monitor looks better in most games such as God of War or Elden Ring or anything else that is played for story and graphics! FPS or first person shooter games are a problem at high frames per second where the smearing becomes apparent and can make it harder to play smoothly, however if you just want to play at 60-90 frames per second the smearing is not that apparent and it's the same as in normal 60 hz IPS monitors and as a non-competitive player playing mostly for fun......I didn't knew what ghosting was until I needed a new monitor and I got a VA monitor and the difference in contrast is stunning, but if you play high FPS games more than 90 frames per second(most kids do) you'll see a lot of black smearing and it becomes annoying since the eye doesn't need to focus it can see it even subconsciously! So yeah I prefer VA more since I play Call of Duty at 60 fps and don't seem to have a problem, but kids get angry because they need to play it at 144 fps so they can feel like a champ when playing online. It really depends on how many fps you play and what you like to play because black smearing becomes a problem only above 90 fps!
@johnclayton4946 thank you so much for this useful info, I was looking all over for this exact experience. I play at 50fps and I have a VA panel so I've never experienced this. Do movies and general web browsing also show this behavior if the monitor is set to 144hz refresh rate? In looking to buy a high refresh rate monitor but I'll be gaming at 60fps or below.
The LG UR78 series has an odd-one-out as according to a specs site only the 50" sets have VA panels. I am upgrading from a 1080p that has IPS, and I can't find this info on the LG site. The "smearing" in gaming is a concern, but the darker blacks would be welcome. I expect the TVs to be identical except for size, so a difference of panel is a big thing to be quiet about.
No idea about LG stuff, sorry!
@@TotallydubbedHD You've reviewed over 200 monitors and there are several LG reviews on your channel. That is the strangest thing I've heard today.
@@DaveThompsonfairlife4all three monitors from 2015 era, and then a very old TV and a small monitor from 2012 lol. Sure, it counts versus the 250+ others I've reviewed in that time.
Maybe for context: LG only works with paid influencers or publications, and I'm not one of them.
Maybe that will sound even more strange to you :)
the philips VA panel, what response times does it have at 60 hz? Will it work well for consoles where many games run at 30 or 60 fps? Thank you for your work
Thanks for the Video. Just Brought The Philips 24M1N3200ZA IPS Monitor.
Pleasure, and enjoy!
This really good when comparing them side by side. A lot easier to spot the differences.
Also side note, the ips one looks lot better imo. I prefer tvs with Va or oled over ips, but monitors at least most of the va panels are pretty mediocre cause the blurr, ghosting and such. Samsung makes some good ones, g7 or g9 series iirc but those arent cheap either.
Glad you enjoyed the video and thanks for sharing; agreed with you there!
which one is good for eyes , for office work , numbers and something , ips or VA
Va
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i've 2 samsung VA monitors and have no complaints about them in gaming use or otherwise.
Pleased to hear it!
This is very informative, thank you sir.
Pleasure, glad you enjoyed it!
can you test the new AOC CQ27G4X monitor? Its a fairly new monitor that came out in the summer in 2024. This one is a VA panel and its a newer tech over their amazing Q27G3XMN, with the G4x supposedly having a much better black smeering and improves on the red tint of the XMN panel.
Potentially!
If you won't mind asking, what's more easy on the eye, IPS or VA?
Overall probably IPS
Excellent review, thanks 👍
Actually, I'm on a 34" LG IPS 144Hz panel looking to jump to the behemoth 49" variants from AOC (and PHILIPS)
Both of them has the same samsung 1800R VA panels with 4ms GTG & 165Hz. Will be using mostly for work & light gaming. I'm not a hardcore gamer at all.
But, I'm really worried about the "dark mode" performance of this VA panel with white text / dark background as I asked your opinion before and which you replied as "nothing overly abnormal"
I'm still undecided on which to choose: AOC Agon AG493UCX2 165Hz or Philips 498P9Z 165 Hz and should I go with VA over the IPS experience? 🧐
Glad you liked the comparison!
As for those two in question, from memory I preferred the AOC; the Philips has its own USP though for productivity. Indeed, being more expensive panels, as mentioned in this video - I didn't notice anything abnormal. If I had, like I did in this video comparison, I would have highlighted it :)
@@TotallydubbedHD thanks for the extensive info and reply.
Now, I'm trying to convince myself about AOC...
@@Boorock70 no worries!
@@Boorock70 Did you buy the VA panel and is the scrolling in dark mode browsing tolerable?
@@colinpierre3441 I did buy the PHILIPS 498P9Z @165hz & it's a perfect match for me.
No Dark Smearing, No Flicker etc.
Although it's a VA Panel it's not behaving like one. Maybe it's an improved VA model.
Tested with all monitor tests & tried scrolling white text on black background (dark mode) at various speeds and surprisingly there's NO Black Smearing at all. Text always stays clear.
Price / Performance is very good. If u need a 49" behemoth, I do strongly recommend the PHILIPS 498P9Z!
PS: My GPU is a XFX RX 6700XT so I've no idea about nVidia performance.
With this setup, I get 66 FPS in SOTTR @ High/Ultra (mixed) settings. I was thinking of buying the RX 7900 XT but I'm OK with 66 FPS in this resolution (5120 x 1440) for now.
So, I can wait for the discounts and then get the RX 7900 XT as the final touch.
Daily use is buttery smooth @ 165hz👍
Do you think a VA is good for a ps5? I was just confused what was a VA and a IPS or it doesn’t really matter bc I’m not on a pc so it won’t effect my gameplay too much
Comments made on the video apply to any platform.
Just subbed! Really informative and at the same time, got me overthinking even more :D What do you think about the Samsung G50 model compared to the Gigabyte M27 (talking about IPS), and also the Gigabyte G27 curved (VA)... I'm constantly changing my mind about which one to get, I'm not every into competitive gaming, I love games like The WItcher or RDR2, and I'm drawn to the contrast advantage of the VA, but the IPS has a wider color specter, and I don't know which type would showcase those games better...
Came here for information, but will stay for the content! Cheers!
Thanks buddy, glad you found it useful!
Can't comment about those two as I've not tried them - however, what you've mentioned would be my thoughts as well. I'd lean towards the VA if I were you.
What did you end up getting? I play basically the same games as you so I’d just like to know whether you’re happy with whatever you purchased
@@qzoid3060 I bought Dell s2721dgf since it had really good reviews and an overall positive feedback, it's an IPS, it's got a great color palate, and it looks great! I decided to go with IPS because I figured I would use that display for other stuff too, not just gaming. Still waiting for the new PC to arrive so I can really test some games on it though...
@@dark0450 alright thanks, let me know what you think of it in those games and in general when you get it!
Is any of the VA ghosting or smearing noticeable in movies (night scenes as well)?
is noticebla everiwhere i bough one from a good brand and i gone changed it two days later for ips
@@adrianosantos999 Oh well I guess it depends on the brand. I ended up buying a Samsung VA and a Dell IPS... after using both for a while I no longer notice and I'm not bothered by the smearing on the VA, but maybe because Samsung doesn't have much.
Do you think I should get a VA or IPS panel? I currently have 4 Acer monitors in a quad mount system, 2 24” 1080p 100hz monitors up top, and 2 27” 1440p 75hz monitors on the bottom. I’m thinking about getting a 2k 27” Acer monitor with a refresh rate of at least 165hz, which I will mainly use for games like Battlefield V. I should also mention that all of my Acer monitors are IPS panels, and combine to display a background. I really like the look of the IPS display and also HDR support is pretty important for me, however I’ve heard that VA has better contrasts but is also prone to smearing. Which one do you think I should go with? For reference, my system specs are an RTX 4080, Ryzen 7 5700, and 64gb of 3600mhz DDR4 ram. For single player games I primarily play on my 4k tv.
That's for you to decide after watching the video!
As always great content and review! Keep it up!
Thanks buddy!
please where is the VA monitor is it the right one or the left one on the desk ?
Cool! I was just contemplating if to buy the IPS version of these monitors.
Hope to helped!
@@TotallydubbedHD yeah, just ordered the IPS one.
@@Tan3l6 amazing! Let me know what you make of it when you get it :)
@@TotallydubbedHD Received it today. What can I say, seems great out of the box, needs perhaps a little calibration, but decent even without it.
I have no other tests than just some games, and they look good. Thanks for the video!
@@Tan3l6 pleasure, glad you're liking it so far :)
thank you for great review , please i need help to pick a monitor . im playing diablo 4 , cod , lol . i not sure who should i pick :
asus tuf VG27AQA1A or VG27AQ1A , from what is see - one is ips and one is va panel . what should i chose ?
Not tried either, so can't comment. Glad you liked the comparison!
Hi, which one of these panel types is best suited for reading & productivity?
Many of the panels available in my region are either VA or IPS.
Thank you.
IPS
@ TotallydubbedHD can u please confirm which of the panels is best for office use (coding)...as the viewing angle will be straight most of the time...
well ur not gaming.. so va
Hello! Sorry for bothering. I'm looking for a new monitor. I have the Ryzen 5 5600 and the RX 6700 XT. I do translation work and play games casually, especially open-world games. I saw the HP Omen 25i and the Gigabyte G27Q. Knowing that these monitors have different characteristics, which of them would be better?
@@leonelredolfo8466 I would suggest watching the video and researching the reviews of both to make your own decision. If you want other monitor suggestions, I suggest checking my best monitor guide found on my TH-cam homepage.
I want to use my Panel every day for Browsing and studying but also for Like 2-3 Hours Gaming in the weekend what should i get?
Hi, I'm planning to buy a 27" monitor and can't decide between 3 monitors...
I play some games just for fun, when I can, watch some movies and the rest is the normal use.
I know that for my profile, I'd be better off with and IPS flat screen but.. all my choices are curved and VA screens. :P
My choices are:
- AOC Gaming 27" C27G2ZE VA FHD 240Hz FreeSync 0.5ms
- Dell 27" S2721HGF FHD 144hz FreeSync Premium 1ms
- AOC Gaming 27" C27G2ZU VA FHD 240Hz 0.5ms FreeSync
I know the Dell monitor is one your favourites in this "range" and that's why it shows on my list, but from these 3 which one would you buy?
Thank You and congrats for the great channel!
Thanks, but given this is a paid piece from Philips, it's not right for me to comment on other alternatives.
@@TotallydubbedHD Hi, sorry I didn't realize it was a sponsored video. Thanks
@@migasbr001 thanks for your understanding!
There is no reason to go curved on a non-ultrawide.
İf youre a real e sports player, always choose TN panel, so fast so good.If youre doing half of evrything,playing games,,watching movies, making some videos ,u can choose VA with no regret.But if u re a screen artist, product maker etc.. you must choose ips.
Don't really agree on that, especially with what was shared in the video regarding gaming on IPS!
6:03 why your screen is so blue
Camera temperature
Is the motion blur/ghosting on a va pannel that noticeable and do you think it would affect my game play and make me worse at the game?
Really depends on the specific monitor.
Hey, I know it's not really related to the topic of the video but I need your advice on which monitor to get. I'm torn between 3
The philips monitor from this review (IPS) 170€
AOC 24G2 180€
Samsung Odyssey G5 2k 144hz 210€
Samsung seems to be the best option on paper being the largest and having 1440p display, but I heard it had some issues.
Not tried the Samsung but can recommend the other two.
Don't get the g5 if you like to play story games with cinematics or watch TV. Everytime there is a dark part of a cutscene or youtube video there is dark blocks you can see on both the monitors I have.
would it be stupid for me to use my tn panel monitor (144hz 1ms) for primary gaming and the panel you're using for browsing?
Not at all; TNs generally get the best response times.
@@TotallydubbedHD thanks for the quick response!
@@xthedronx no worries
Does freesync premium work between 40 to 60 hz? Also, will ghosting be less of an issue during desktop usage at higher refresh rates like 120 and above?
That's all dependent on the monitor you're looking at.
@@TotallydubbedHD it's the 32GN650 by LG
@@diysai no idea about that monitor, best looking up reviews.
would you recommend a Viewsonic XG2431 or LG Ultragear - 27Gp750-B (LG is 30 dollars cheaper in my country) - I like the looks of LG way more + the size, no one has complains for it but viwsonic is being considered the best for ghosting, I dont think i will notice too much with the LG, what do you think ?
Not tried the LG nor will do, so can't comment!
0:21 this issue I am seeing this in clouding effect in my VA monitor too. This weird clouding effect which much worse the IPS bleed. Is this some defect in the panel or inherent limitation of VA? I was thinking of getting an Odyssey G7, I heard those don't have this clouding effect.
Limitations of VA, but some have it worse than others - that's down to technology and implementation.
@@TotallydubbedHD Switched to IPS monitor. IDK! whats the reason even with low contrast IPS just look right. It preserves the details and brings photorealism to any scene. VA just makes everything cartoonish and neonish.
@@Richdadful fair enough, glad you're enjoying the IPS experience!
Thanks for sharing such useful info) great usefull video
Pleasure, glad you liked it!
And if I require it for programming? With my code editor always in dark mode, which would be the most recommended?
Likely a VA.
IPS for its clarity while gaming and overall longevity.
I prefer VA, love my Samsung G7.
How's the curve?
@@TotallydubbedHD great, love it can't go back to a flat panel.
@@s1gnex glad you're liking it that much!
Ya I have it it's the best monitor on the market, it still the best for gaming and its VA.
@@cvkiller1978 can't agree, but it's a good monitor!
AOC 24.5" 25G3ZM (Va - 240Hz) would you please examine
You'll be pleased to know that it's now coming in for review!
Review is now live: th-cam.com/video/ihNqHxhSRrQ/w-d-xo.html
Hi,
BenQ EX2710S 27 inch LED IPS Monitor
Any idea about this monitor??
Yeah like the EX2510S that I've already reviewed, feel free to watch my review of it: th-cam.com/video/bvePNYGXKh4/w-d-xo.html
I have a 27 inch AoC 240 hz gaming monitor and haven’t noticed any ghosting
They're not all similar :)
was the IPS on the right or left side of your desk ?
@@BlackThistleTattoo from memory left, but check the video should have been mentioned
I'm waiting for my new ASUS ROG Swift PG27UQR - 27 inch 4K UHD Gaming Monitor - 160 Hz, 1ms! 10-bit IPS panel, hardware: 7800X3D, RTX 4070, 32GB DDR5, 2TB Samsung 990 Pro!
@@myravied7965 enjoy!
So please for competitive gamer should buy
Tn 240hz like benq
Or
Ips 360hz like asus
I'd never recommend a TN in this day and age, but if you want the absolute fastest response times, then it would be a TN.
Which type would you recommend for office work?
IPS
TN
@@aquamanxhighlight5723 IPS and VA monitors are so cheap nowadays, that the only reason for buying a TN monitor would be ultra-fast response times for gaming.
VA
VA is fine with its deep blacks...until you move. Once you start moving the image falls apart and is just a mess. IPS ONLY.
Depends on the VA panel, some are better than IPS
@@TotallydubbedHD Absolutely no.
@@TeamGun I can tell you they are, I've tested over 260 monitors.
Thanks for sharing! Based on the ufo test for the one with va panel, even with fastest overdrive there's still no inverse ghosting?
But there's smearing which in many ways is even more noticeable than inverse ghosting. Glad you liked the video!
My friend! can u help me to choose the best price/quality IPS 1080p 240hz monitor? You will help me a lot! im located in Belgium. ( playing mostly csgo, supreme with my old 75 hz :) )
My favourites: th-cam.com/video/tGH3SJpoOAQ/w-d-xo.html
@@TotallydubbedHD from that list only AOC 24G2ZU is IPS 1080 240 but it looks really too gaming and bright for me with that red colors :( maybe something more classic ? and not so aggressive?
@@user-j9ki7r those are my suggestions, and no the Asus is too.
Can i calibrate the contrast on an ips panel to match that of a va one?
Nope!
I want more Streaming like Netflix and Amazon with good black colour if i watch dark movies and i don't play much gaming, what monitor should i choose? VA or IPS Panel?
VA
For the casual gaming, the ips is more suitable right?
This was covered in the video!
I'm going with ips on my next monitor because of the brightness flicker on my Asus TUF 27Wq1b monitor. I love freesync but that flicker is disgusting.
That's got nothing to do with the panel
@@TotallydubbedHD I bought a new graphics card and DP cable, same issue. And there are a lot of threads in the internet that proof that it's the VA Panels fault.
@@daidalos1508 it's likely to do with G-Sync or Freesync being on...
@@TotallydubbedHD yeah its the panel that works bad with freesync. That's why i will buy ips
@@daidalos1508 not to do with VAs, rather the implementation from the manufacturer.
Can you get the 27 & 32 inch ones from philips to test too (same design)
Unlikely buddy, sorry! But you should be able to use the figures in this video for those sizes
thanks for the in-depth comparison, and thanks Philips! Eindhoven de gekste
Pleasure, glad you found it useful!
@@TotallydubbedHD you covered just the relevant topics for me, and illustrated them well.
@@zbnmth thank you!
i'm a ps5 story game player, a video editor and a coder/programmer. I also enjoy many many movies and i still can't decide what should i get. ips or va? (edit: i really hope you reply in less than a week because my birthday is coming :) )
Plenty of info shared in the video, watch it and make your own informed decision!
@@TotallydubbedHD i watched it 2 times already and i still can't decide 😭😭
@@kwstas_.diam24I've heard that va panels cause gamma shifts which may affect you if you use it for video editing but for gaming casually it's better
What about mini-Led, quantum-Dots, and all other new technologies?
Maybe for another video!
Is MSI mp223 good ? (Display and durability)
No idea
What better to watch?
also it would be nice if you reviewed the curved monitors that always use VA panels
I've done many of them on the channel!
@@TotallydubbedHD you have lots of videos and TH-cam doesn't have a search function inside channels to find any of the related videos
@@lucutes2936 yeah that's true, TH-cam doesn't have such a function.
Which one do you think is better for watching movies?
I believe VA would be better cause it has better contrast ratio
Definitely VA for that purpose.
Im thinking about Philips 27M1F5500P00 But there arent so much review about color accuracy etc.. for gaming and doing youtube videos. But good review about differents betwee ips and va!
Glad you enjoyed the video!
Lg 32inch 1440p 165hz b600 good?
No idea, but won't ever recommend an LG product on this channel.
@ using it rn, looks really good for me so I’m happy
What about i you're just a gamer and not into competitive gaming or pvp? I'm primarily into mmos and open world games. What panel will you recommend?
Probably a VA
Curved screens are cost more $ to make. IPS has better colors but low contrast...
Would you prefer a 75hz IPS or a 144hz VA Panel? Great video!
That's a hard one, but I'd opt for 144hz as a gamer. But equally refresh rate isn't everything - input lag and response time are equally if not more important
Both are cheaper get anything doesn't matter except if you have an option of getting OLED
straight away the VA looks washed out and less vibrant than the IPS. IPS for me all day long. Great review 🙂
Thanks!
sir ,, i always play story type games..so which panel is best for better visual quality..thanks😍
go VA bruh... the downside only the smearing problem but everything else beat ips....
1080p 24" link
My question is does turning on mprt increase input lag or does it have no effect on input lag
It shouldn't affect it!
fun fact:
Philips are pretty good monitor, my 10-year old 24" 1080p IPS 60hz panel is running strong!
While my AOC 24" 1080p 144hz 1ms IPS Gaming monitor had problem with the panel after only 2 years WTF?? lucky me it had warranty for 3 years so I got a coupon for my €219 (euro) to buy a new monitor!
my new monitor will be: LG ULTRA GEAR 27GN600 for €265 (euro) hopefully it will be good!
Best of luck!
I like that your VA monitor is flat. Most VA monitors are curved. Its kind of rare to see a flat one. Not that it matters much but I thought it was interesting
Yup, absolutely!
If I purchase a monitor with a VA panel and a 4ms response time, and a refresh rate of only 75Hz, will ghosting and black smearing be minimal? Or are these factors not interrelated?
It's all dependent on the monitor implementation. Specs mean nothing.
video saved, im considering Philips ZA monitor, for 310€.
Glad it's helpful!
MSI G24C4 E2 23.6" 180Hz FHD Gaming Monitor With Va panel is better or
ViewSonic VX2405-P-MHD 24 inch 144Hz Full HD IPS Gaming Monitor ips panel or
Acer Nitro VG240Y Sbmiipx 23.8 inch 165Hz FHD IPS Gaming Monitor
which should I pick for competitive gaming + anime watching
Excellent review, definitely going for VA for all rounded use, office/videos/photo editing/gaming. On a side note what game is that you were playing at the start?
Thanks, glad you liked it! And that's CSGO :)
Does VA have any noticeable ghosting or smearing when watching movies?
good video ips is the best now ips vs oled
Glad you liked the video!
And that would be cool to do at some point.
Im in the rabbit hole
haha oh look it's mr. "I don't think that i know everything, I know that I know everything'.
Sorry what?
@@TotallydubbedHD just a careful observation that i've made about you mr dubbed
@@JohnBog great - so you know not to question it ;)
Fast VA > ALL IPS panel.
Fast va better, no low contrast no ips glow.
What about smearing...? Lol
Depends on the use case. VA may be better for gaming and watching movies in a dark room, while IPS is better for color critical work.
IPS ALL THE WAY! AMAZING VIDEO! 🔥
Thanks buddy!
g7, va, best 1440p monitor price for performance on the market just ignore the simpletons
@@PuppetMasterdaath144 lol
@@PuppetMasterdaath144 Yep. Low contrast display is just awful to look at. It's not just bad looking, it's actually uncomfortable. I can describe how much I regret "upgrading" from VA to IPS. Unless you play only "hardcore competetive" games you shouldn't listen to people who recommend IPS over VA. At the very least you should try to evaluate how both technologies perform with your own eyes before making a choice.
@@juanblanco7898 G7 if bough underpriced is well known to be considered most bang for the buck in terms of what you get for your money. Fact is that TH-cam video owners are all borderline psychotic and only care about clickbait
review samsung new 1080p 240hz monitor …
Samsung are horrible to work with, so it's unlikely I'll be reviewing anything from them!
VA 🎉
I want to like ur video but it's perfectly at 69 likes atm 😂
Do it! Haha
Ips is so bad
Lol why
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Hero!
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