James Cameron reacts sub implosion: 'I'm struck by the similarity of the Titanic disaster itself'
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 28 ส.ค. 2024
- "Titanic" director James Cameron, who has explored the ship's wreckage site himself, called the implosion of a submersible that vanished on a Titanic tour Sunday "quite surreal."
All passengers are believed to be dead after a desperate dayslong search for the Titan, a 21-foot deep-sea vessel operated by OceanGate Expeditions. Coast Guard officials said during a news conference Thursday said debris found during the search for the vessel is consistent with the catastrophic loss of the pressure chamber. #titanic #jamescameron
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I'm glad James Cameron is speaking out about this because like him or not, he does know and has the experience. And he's completely right about carbon fiber; it's strong only up until a breaking point and then it completely shatters. It doesn't bend or give like steel or titanium, it just shatters.
I think I also read that the carbon fiber hull was supposed to be rated to 13600' or something... barely a smidgen above what the depth of the Titanic is... I'd want at least 30% headroom. If I'm going 12.5k feet down, then I'd like to hear it's rated to about 16k feet. This is aside from the fact that the viewport was apparently only rated for 4000' or something...
Agreed, I know that carbon-fiber is considered “cool” and all. But once James Cameron mentioned the material I knew where the failure point was.
Carbon-fiber doesn’t do it’s thing by itself. It has to be held together with something else such as a resin.
Carbon fiber is not contiguous material and it can delaminate.
And they had said is had already been damaged from a previous dive so they dive rating had been changed so they knew ahead they were earned it wouldn’t withstand that pressure
I don't understand why carbon fibre would be considered. Weight saving doesn't seem to be an option given that it's going to be in a submersible which will sink anyways. I'd be surprised if there were any other submersible in the world that uses carbon fibre for its hull.
James Cameron is the cavalier attitude done right. You cross boundaries by hard work and persistence, not by simply ignoring that they exist.
100 trillion times this. You can be daring, visionary and yet smart and safe at the same time. James Cameron is all of that.
He knows his engineering and is a creative - a rare combination.
@@phil4986it’s one thing to do these stunts on your own but what annoys me is he’s reassuring other ppl its safe to travel with him
The Simpsons even did a episode about this unbelievable
Like System76 :)
Hearing that the 19 year old was scared and didn’t really want to do it is truly heartbreaking 😢
It is heartbreaking because he knew his father was crazy at that point. In their culture, they have to listen to their parents even if it's life or death.
Where did you hear that? x
I didn’t know that
That’s sad
@@starlightrocks7 also, the father wanted his Son do something special with him on Father's Day which was Sunday...
really? where have you heard that?
James Cameron is that old guy you would meet at a bar and could just listen to him talk all night and not get bored
Right
Agree
That’s if you’re into his Rap !
@@B3B3TTER Rich man ego blabber? What a dumbo
@@B3B3TTERAgreed. Also Cameron has a reputation for being difficult to work with. At least according to Kate Winslet.
James sums it up perfectly; "I am struck by the similarity of the Titanic disaster itself, were the captain was repeatedly warned and the warnings went unheeded and for a very similar tragedy to take place at the same exact site"
Ghosts ……😔
Full of pride. Pride before the fall
Hubris and arrogance are as old as the hills. It's bound to be repeated over and over again through the ages. Almost every human being has form of it or another in their DNA.
It wasn’t fault of captain Smith, ceo of White Star Line was on board & insisted that to be fastest Atlantic crossing Titanic had to continue at full speed. Captain Smith went down with his ship & White Star man jumped on a lifeboat & survived. It’s shocking that Smith, a very popular ship’s captain who was brought out of retirement because White Star couldn’t sell enough tickets for Titanic without this charismatic man should be blamed for Titanic disaster.
@@jeanmyers1787 everything is clearer in hindsight.
James Cameron is calling the shots like he sees them here, and he's spot on. I'm sure Bob Ballard was being very gentle in his delivery given that he was friends with some of the people lost, but the fact was that this was reckless and irresponsible, and extremely poorly carried out.
Plus this sub was never meant for tourism
The sub was not sanctioned by the USA or anyone else hence why it's in international waters
Subs like this are only good for one trip and that Subs useless pretty my like a Motor bike helmet you drop it it's useless may as well throw it in the bin
The sub was basically some guys wet dream
I wouldn't of gone on it if the paid me 250k
100% correct
I don't see visiting the Titanic as "reckless" as you say. The sub designed by OceanGate surpassed the most sophisticated sub built yet when you factor in how little they cost. OceanGate is so much more cost effective and I would love to see them continue with their endeavors. Coming into this year, OceanGate had a flawless record. Oh, and carbon fibre hull is so much more cost effective than titanium. There's no comparison.
@@francisvantuyleDitto!
He's probably less rich but much wiser
I love James Cameron. One of the only people in Hollywood that tells it like it is.
He said that testosterone is a poison that needs to be removed from men's systems. He's a fool.
The truth !!!.
Didn't he go all "woke!??"
Didn't he go all "woke!??"
He really didn't in "The Lost Tomb of Jesus". He lied there a lot.
James Cameron is a legend. No director has the technical understanding to achieve such complexity with his movies. I’ve always seen James Cameron as equal parts scientist/innovator/enthusiast as much as he is a film director.
And an activist too. I remember him saying way back that he almost stopped making movies to get into activism.
He's also a professional motorcycle rider, just look at his shirt. It's a motocross shirt, he'd only wear that if he was a motocross rider too.
No, James Cameron hired someone to build his sub because he doesn't know how to safely build one himself.
People who work in Hollywood are professionals at "acting the part," they'll make you think they're experts by dressing up and saying all the things people expect them to say.
@@SkadooHusky You must be so fun at parties, I can tell by the clown makeup you're wearing. Oh wait that's just a fursuit. I'm sure you know all about "playing a part" while yiffing. On second thought, I know exactly what kind of parties you're going to, you can stay over there with the rest of the dogs.
@@SkadooHusky uh yeah, just like anyone would. When you have money it lets you offset the personal workload onto more people to achieve your dreams. He has a technical mind though that allows the technologies he’s involved with to become fully realized designs. He’s technical and artistic which is an uncommon blend. As an engineer, I can tell. I’m not just some numbskull saying he is a robot who can do anything because I watched one video here. What an idiot take “motorcycle rider because he has a shirt” lol ok bud
Finally someone will to tell the truth about the negligence. Everyone is trying to be nice, but imagine how that makes the families feel when they hear nobody standing up for them
You make a good point. My feeling was that the people who were interviewed were trying to be kind to the families by not pointing blame, but you are correct. The passengers may have THOUGHT that they knew the dangers when they signed the waiver, but if they had access to all the expert criticism. of the technology, perhaps some of them would have not gone. Perhaps that father would not have brought his 19 yr old son.
@@macpduff2119 well, and these passengers probably thought, "well it's gotta be safe because the guy who invented the thing is coming on the ride with us so he wouldn't risk his own life too if he didn't think it was safe."
@@fs5775this is so true, and forgive me if I’m wrong, but wasn’t that also somewhat the case on the Titanic? Maybe that was just in the movie, lol….
@@macpduff2119the family of the father and son have said the 19 year old didn’t want to go and had told his aunt he didn’t want to go and was scared
Many lawsuits coming … rightly so.
I truly think Titanic should be left alone now, it’s a mass grave, it’s now taken more souls - let it Rest In Peace.
The Titanic didn't claim these people's lives, the arrogance and stupidity of the CEO of Oceangate took their lives and his.
I agree.
I think it shouldn’t be touched, but if someone wants to go back down and view it I don’t see why not
That's what people don't take into account: that it IS a mass grave. Watch TH-cam videos. Watch the stupid movie. Quit risking lives in vehicles that are put together rather crudely, without using the most talented people, without taking into account for safety,.
AMEN
Sister of the businessman Shahzada Dawood, who along with his son died in the submersible, says her nephew (the son) "did not want to go on the submarine but agreed to take part in the expedition because it was important to his father", and he was "terrified" Brutal
This is heartbreaking. He's the only one I feel sorry for.
According to experts, carbon fiber is not the right choice for repeated excursions to the bottom of the ocean. This vassal had done trips down there before this one, and with each trip, carbon fiber was getting weaker and weaker, and finally, it was not able to withstand the tremendous pressure anymore, and it just disintegrated.
Play stupid games, win stupid deaths. I feel bad for all others except the CEO on board who is on record multiple times mocking regulations
If he could only talk now the story would be different.
Yeah, I don’t care that her earned himself a Darwin Award, but he shouldn’t have taken 4 other with him!
The ceo and oceangate should be sued til bankrupt
@@katherinechatham9032 I wonder about that honestly the guy was super arrogant based on interviews where he completely disregards safety I honestly think he'd just say he'd get it right next time or something.
@@sgn9817the ceo can’t be sued
James Cameron nailed it in this interview
He nailed it
Speaking out off experience
He really raises the bar.
Right! Really good interview
James just said what ALL of us are thinking but are too cowardly to say. We have all had this thought since day one. He is stating reality and science in a time where people get angry for stating reality and science. The owner of this company is not a hero in death AT ALL. For those of you who say what he said was too soon, I disagree due to the times we are living in: Reality and science don’t care about your feelings and your feelings should never impede reality and science. James isn’t the guy to lie to you so your feeling don’t get hurt because he stated it in reality and science. The world must stop denying reality and science or we will all end up like the titan.
Whos too scared to say? Maybe you are mate... dont generalise with me champ...
Very well put and a very important lesson for all of us to learn.
I agreed the guy responsible isn't remotely a hero. He disregarded people with vastly greater experience, apparently believing Silicon Valley's mantra "move fast and break things" would somehow disprove his critics and detractors. Well, he broke it. Too bad he didn't bother to study the Scorpion, Thresher and Kursk sub disasters, experienced by two naval powers with vast resources. Going deep in the ocean is considerably more dangerous than going into space, because the pressure differential is orders of magnitude greater. 15K ft of water exerts more than 450 atmospheres of pressure (6,600 psi) trying to get in, while a vessel in space is required to contain only one atmosphere (14.7psi) trying to get out.
The Titanic tragedy was a message for humanity not to repeat the mistakes of how hubris and arrogance which can kill people. These people did exactly that, risking their lives for extreme tourism and the CEO being overconfident with his design. The moral story and message of the Titanic wreck flew all over their heads.
The fact that they were exploring the Titanic and spending big money to do so makes it even more ironic.
@@dsbmgrey9504Not to mention they named it 'Titan'...!! 😟
Maybe it's Divine retribution for the rubber-neckers who think that the sunken Titanic is there to provide a tourist "stop of interest". On every deep sea diver's "to see" list. And those that can't dive, well for just a quarter of a million dollars you can be transported to the bottom of the ocean to ogle the wreckage. Does it not occur to ANYONE that the Titanic resting site is a GRAVEYARD? It is not there to be visited by onlookers who want to see the clothing and bones that litter the ship and the seabed. That site should be treated with the highest respect. It is the graveyard of 1500 unfortunate souls who lost their lives that day in 1912. Stop treating this like a tourist attraction!
Well, future tourist dive expeditions to see Titanic can view the remains of Titan, too. They're the latest additions to this ocean graveyard site.
@dsbmgrey9504 None of those on board were "explorers." They were tourists. People who go on dangerous carnival rides aren't explorers, they're thrill seekers.
Hubris claimed the Titanic. Hubris claimed the Titan. Same spot, years later. Such a weird life we have!
agree. I feel so awful for that kid, I'm sure he would still love to be around.
What is even more creepy is that "Titan" was a novel made back in the late 1800's that had creepy similarities to the Titanic disaster. And now the "Titan" submersible, that was on a mission to the Titanic, suffered a terrible fate at the same spot, because of the same reasons behind it. It is 3x creepy. Eerie eerie eerie...
@@-_deploy_- very meta
@@-_deploy_-ghosts 😮😞
Cameron was absolutely right on with his analysis! The hull was the weak point on that vehicle, and like he said, carbon fiber, depending on how it's layered, will delaminate under repeated high stress situations. Fortunately, the occupants of this vehicle probably never knew what hit them in the few milliseconds that hull decided to fail.😳
Fortunately?😮
@@starlightrocks7if they had been aware, they would’ve had to deal with the terrifying reality that they were about to drown 2 miles into frigid saltwater.
He does mention that he and the community believe they had dropped ballast and were ascending when it imploded, meaning they knew something was wrong. But I’m sure their deaths were mercifully quick. Still horrifying
@@KBizzy do we, as humans, completely flatten under that pressure? Are we squished to nothing but bones and our flesh turned to liquid? Im sure they knew to worry, but have no idea they are dead.
@@snypa-ck7hnyes. Every pocket of air in your body will want to rapidly escape you no matter what it needs to do to achieve that. You’ll also turn into a pressure cooker and boil if you aren’t ripped apart first by your shattering bones that would act as shrapnel.
James Cameron isn't just a Hollywood guy spouting off, he actually knows something about this and had real practical experience. Listen to him.
After James made his descent to the Challenger Deep, he made a documentary film about the development and experience w/his submersible. He test debuted his film w/some audiences, one of which was the International Championship of the Destination Imagination problem solving & science kids while our school was participating. James gave a great talk before the large international crowd, gave further explanations about how he did what he did and why. He really wowed us all, and amazed and inspired the kids .A very bright, able, as well as imaginative man who knows.
What’s the documentary called?
@@B3B3TTER exactly. I also find it funny that people think James Cameron is an expert with submersibles but the CEO of a submersible company? What does he know?
If I remember, someone nearly drowned during filming of the titanic. They weren't even sinking and someone nearly died.
Never knew CAMERON was this technical and knowledgeable about submersible vessels. Amazing. And totally honest and logical.
James Cameron sure is an accomplished man. I have garnered more from this interview than I have from all other interviews combined.
Cameron and McCartney,
Both left handed vegans.
Photos of them are of interest.
I don't want to make light of a tragedy. But there's a certain poetic justice in watching a company that scoffed at safety measures and filled a vessel with crazy-rich people, getting into trouble while trying to go gawk at the remains from a company that scoffed at safety measures and filled a vessel with crazy-rich people
That is wild.
The irony!
You win.
There's an irony but it's not poetic justice. Saying that is truly vile.
It is exactly what I thought. Way too many similarities that resulted in the same fate, at the same place. Nothing was learned.
Cameron has given the most intelligent and thoughtful analysis of this tragic event. The only way I’d do this dive to Titanic is if he were on board. He does his homework. Research everything, from structure, communications, operating systems, training of crew, weather, and how profits are spent.
You would still do a dive with Cameron after witnessing this, I don’t care who it is. I’ll never dive 13,000 feet in the ocean. Humans aren’t meant to go down there.
@@TheMelman55 humans are also not meant to fly, yet u prolly go on an airplane veryone once and then.
@@ashketchum2205 not even close to the same thing
@@chairmanofthebored8684 what is it a Prison Sentence ? Be sensible Buddy !
I just don't think it's worth the effort, time, money. If anything I'd rather go to space. Seems safer - though with all them things, spaceship, sub(mersible), plane, if it goes down, it tends to take all passengers along with it. You can go there with a remotely operated submersible. Being there physically has very little value - at least in my eyes. Space we might colonise. If we ever need to go under water, things are beyond desperate...
The first planes also lost wings due to fatigue (aluminium didn't work out well, even though it was light). At any rate, planes are heavily regulated. Going to the abyss is no where near the kind of innovation both flight and spacetravel went through. That's why it's so horrendous that this rush dude took 'tourists'. I'm still baffled it was possible to do this to begin with. It seems negligent, criminal, bonkers.
Man this is a smart man. I was never a fan of his movies but he knew how to make things other people enjoyed which I appreciate. And it is indeed comforting to hear him speak on this tragedy.
Just like Mr. Everest, people keep going there and dying.
People are still missing/haven't been found on Mt. Everest
Noone has died diving to the Titanic...until now..
More idiots. No tax money should of been spent finding these fools. They went commercially into international waters. On a commercial craft. Signed waivers to do it.
If other worldwide commercial companies wanted to aid from their own dollar an donations. Good on them
@@Cruz474 Death happens when you are using a rinky dink kitchen sink submersible.
@@Cruz474
Because the others had sufficient common sense and were not doing it for greed.
The first question that you ask yourself to dive on Titanic, or climb Everest is, would you still go if you couldn’t tell anybody? If the answer is yes, then go, if it’s no, stay home
Great point.
Good point
Good one! Add space to that as well.
can't agree more
Would you do it if you couldn't post it on Instagram is what should be asked. And that includes taking pics of a meal, new hair do, trip. Sadly most people do anything for validation from others. Total waste of time and experience
Only thing I'd kinda argue with James on is that the loss of Titanic was shocking precisely because she was thought by everyone in the industry to be incredibly safe, whereas it seems like practically everyone thought Titan was this disaster waiting to happen.
James clearly understands all of this. Good communicator.
I wish they’d leave that ship alone and let those souls rest in peace. At the end of the day, it’s a burial site so send your condolences and move on. Show some respect for the deceased. 🙄
Thank you! Finally, someone gets it.
Titanic is an infamous disaster where many people died. Living want to see the wreck which is understandable. Dead don’t mind because they are no longer here or there at the bottom. There are many places on earth where people lost their lives, living have visited, are visiting and will be visiting these sites. So stop whining about it.
the issue is vessel is poorly built and designed, everything wouldve been fine if that was the case so visiting the titanic is actually not a bad idea
Don't ever go to a cemetery...
I ain't gonna lie I was thinking of this. They wanted to see the dead so the dead had them join them 👻👻👻
The lack of backup was my first concern
Yes what happened of not using cameras tied to long rope to put down there!!!..
It wasn't entangled they sad...sooo sad!!!
I’m I missing something here? How could a back up have helped
Not in this situation but it speaks to a completely callous disregard for implementing safety measures, especially when this was established best practice. I don’t understand how you could be intelligent,, motivated and well resourced enough to put this operation together but then get the basics so wrong? Disregard warnings? Unless it was motivated by cash grab, trying to innovate by cutting corners to make it more cost effective than competitors, in which case why did the ceo get on board?
Cameron is pretty scathing here about the inherent design flaw of the Titan.
If only Stockton Rush had had the humility to listen to others when it came to their advice.
Those who do not learn from the past are doomed to repeat it....
Hubris is just no less a threat today than it was 111 years ago. It's an unfortunate quirk of human nature. We cut corners -- whether in aviation, mountaineering, undersea exploration or any other risky venture -- because we think it will never happen to us. Sadly, it's a part of who we are as a species -- a part that will never change.
It's who "men" are more like. Sorry, but no women would have been insane enough to go down there in that thing given the experimental nature of the thing. This was a truly risk-taking male act.
I think you nailed it. It's human nature to want something so badly that throwing caution to the wind over any issue that arises feels right. We've seen it before, in folks who wouldn't get out of the path of erupting volcanos, who stood rooted as a dam breaks, and endangering the lives of others by refusing to turn back before submitting the world's
most inhospitable mountaintops. Sometimes we will just not look in a mirror and say no.
Someone needs to write a book about this tendency.
It’s still kind of eerie how the same fate has happened to these 5 people. Feels like a curse but it’s more like a reminder of why you must follow all protocols.
@@fs5775I don’t think that is true. Look At Elizabeth Holmes. As one example.
James Cameron is a Canadian (Previously said: an American; thank you for the corrections) and Global Film Legend. The standards that Mr. Cameron discussed is the difference between success and failure and in this case he was absolutely right. We hope the Oceanic standards will require exactly what Mr. Cameron and better so this tragedy is never repeated. Condolences to the respective families for their devastating loss.
Actually he's Canadian.
really impressed with his knowledge.
James Cameron is not an American, he is from Canada.
@@jamessiddle7389 Yup. Funny too since he doesn't even have a hint of a Canadian accent since he's lived in the US for so long.
He is very experienced, but he holds no science degrees, nor is he an engineer. He calls himself an engineer multiple times in this piece which is incorrect.
He avoided safety protocols . End of story..even james cameron knows it . I love what he said about safety. And he could do it bc he had money
Fantastic to have Cameron talk about this issue. The man is the best , no question. He is full of information that is priceless.
Were they brave and courageous? Yes. Were they risk takers? Yes. Is it a tragedy? Yes. Were they reckless in ignoring all documented warnings from experts? Yes. This could have been avoided.
They were no different from those who attempted to climb Mt. Everest or jumped from a high cliff in a wing suit and died.
@@edgardovillacorte7012 sorry to disagree, but there are many differences. Primarily the vessel they used was substandard. Experts had warned them. Even if they did reach the surface they'd still be low on oxygen because it only opened from the outside. Imagine that! The material they used were not certified either. So, unlike Everest or wing suits these guys had the technology available. There are vessels there that go 3 times deeper with no issues. Of course there are risks but this was reckless.
@@nimascolari1508 Based on your questions checklist, it's all a yes for Mt. Everest climbers and wingsuit flyers. They have been warned and are aware of the hazards and significant probability of death and serious injury in such extreme sports.
There too are documented cases of oxygen equipment and wingsuit failures.
Regarding the unsoundness of Titan's design, Stockton Rush was no different from the CEOs of aircraft and vehicle manufacturers who were aware of and ignored flaws in their products that eventually led to the deaths of thousands.
I don't call them brave! To many red flags, and many warnings! More $$$ in the bank than brains in the head! Dreamers... Like all dreamers, they mistook disenchantment for truth.
And this is where cutting corners get you. And breaking rules. At the bottom of the ocean. Devastating!
The sub owner was very irresponsible. He was warned but still took four others to their death as well as himself. I’m impressed by Cameron’s knowledge of everything and the safety measure they took when he was diving to the Titanic. It really shows how negligent the sub owner was. I’m sure the people on board signed wavers but who really thinks something will happen to them.
"The rich like to think they can bye their way to fame, but it back fired. 🤑
@@snow_tacknives2024 It’s really sad that the young man didn’t want to go on the dive but did so for a bonding moment with his dad. He literally gave up his life for good ‘ole dad. Personally I think a good bonding moment would be over coffee or better yet a nice dinner but definitely not in a submersible where you have to acknowledge you might die.
Oceangate choose to dive the Titanic site because its in international waters and they could loophole their way out of getting it certified. Just a blatant attempt to save money. Titan had off the shelf components, basically the bargin bin of submarines..The porthole was only certified to go to 1,300 meters and yet Titanic is at 4,000. I saw the documentary on James Cameron's sub and that thing is the pinnacle of engineering and unlike Titan he had things built from the ground up from scratch, not a controller off the gaming section at your local best buy. The CEO of Oceangate says he wants to be remembered as a rule breaker...Well congrats, you'll be remembered for that.
*starts writing Titanic 2*
More debris to look for... and, "same site"... wow
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Given the short trip, one minute is enough:
Splash, pop, my heart will go on.
Regardless of any personal opinion of Mr Cameron, his expertise in this matter must be respected. He is calling it as he sees it, and his open honesty makes perfect sense to me.
Cameron was a physics student before he got interested in film making. He knew enough to realize what he did not know, and then put in the work to do it right. There are no short cuts when lives are on the line.
@@shooter7a Thank you for the info on his scientific background. Well said.
thank you for letting him talk
I knew this was going to be the outcome just from hearing what it was made from. Yeah, you may get a pass one or two times just by sheer luck, but this was inevitable. It is unfortunate that these people lived through this horror and probably knew what was going to happen to them right before it happened.
Same here, as soon as I heard it was missing and made from carbon fiber, my mind went right to implosion. Everyone thinks carbon fiber is some miracle material, but it is not and should not be used for every application. It has flaws and weaknesses, which are evident under pressure and cold, as it becomes brittle.
Why would anyone travel in a uncertified vehicle let alone be able to take passengers for a price..What agency, country oversees being certified..Like the Titanic, the captain and now the CEO went down with the ship..
GREAT QUESTION 👀
Facts
Not to defend them but to play devil's advocate....International Waters?
SpaceX and many other private space companies are offering the same thing. Also its easy to say why this and that but also why would you pay to get into a rollercoaster, terrible accidents can happen there too.
@@Alan-cl2ixrollercoasters are tried and tested and have millions of case studies of being run while this sub has only been run with a full crew twice.
In the 1898 novel that was about the largest ship in the world, that stuck an iceberg in the Alantic on her maiden voyage in April with too few lifeboats was named the Titan.
Thats so eerie i heard about it
That was the kiss of death to name it the Titan.
Ironically the titanic actually had sufficient lifeboats, but they launched them way to quickly without waiting to fill them
@@sci-fyguy7767 💯
That is all too eerie. Way too eerie...
“I spent more time on the ship than the captain”
“Ok”
I know right? What an overblown egomaniac.....
It makes me wonder if shortly before the implosion those on board could hear scary, sort of cracking and crunching noises as the pressure began to build, and the vessel was beginning to fail. You would think that the passengers on board would turn to the CEO and say: is that normal? Is it supposed to be making those noises? At which point the CEO would probably tell a white lie and say: yes, that’s perfectly natural as we go deeper. All the while, knowing that it is not normal, as he desperately tried to hide his own fear.
That thought is terrifying to me
James said in the interview the weight was drop to come back up but sound as it was already to late I would think they all had the moment of fear before it impoled
"They had dropped their ascent weights & were coming back up." That sheds a whole new light on the incident. I'm wondering why this information hasn't been relased by official channels?
Lol Cameron thinking that him looking at the titanic is the same as being on this titanic is so delusional. "Ive spent more time on the titanic than the captain did" lol
Unfortunately the only reassuring aspect of this whole situation is that death was more than likely instantaneous with very little pain if it was indeed implosion
My gosh James Cameron is more than just an acclaimed director. I thought he was pompous when he said he was king of the world, but now I see a side of him I totally agree with - he believes in safety, sound engineering, testing, backup systems. I really agree with what he said
Yes and a man of knowledge of respecting history. He didn’t take shortcuts in his movies and didn’t take shortcuts in diving to see the titanic 33 times
James Cameron raising the bar again!
33 dives mr cameron has made. That astonishing. Incrediable he is alive. Lucky man.
He didn't cut corners or ignore safety concerns
He also had a crew above water just in case something went wrong..
He went down the the deepest part of the ocean also. Over 7 miles down
Luck was not a factor.
Safety isn't luck, it's preparedness. As he said he only made the trip in safety approved and tested equipment. This should be a lesson to everyone on dangers of cutting corners on safety.
With Paul-Henry being such a experienced deep sea diver and submersible pilot/passenger, I wonder why he went in this experimental submersible?
Sounds like that CEO is pretty convincing 🤷♀️
Hearing him speak its such an honour im happy he's still around ..
2:19...
Refreshing to hear what needs to be said.
I was thinking the same thing. The buddy system would have been somewhat safer even if it did not prevent what ultimately happened.
As to your point, at least an ROV to shadow the ship through out the duration of the dive. Another set of eyes hovering above and out of the way could and should have been employed. In another life, I spent 15 years as part of the technical support on an Geological research vessel. If the mission required it, we would hire ROV teams. At times the currents were prohibitive but as we know here, the maximum speed was 3 mph. In this case unless the currents were still, the mission was cancelled anyway.
In all risky scenarios you have a back up. You don’t jump out of a plane without a back up parachute.
Guys I swear I learned more form James Cameron on this subject then any other expert lol
Cameron never ceases to amaze.
Absolutely heartbreaking my condolences to the families of the people aboard that vessel
Five votes for Biden less
My heart felt condolences to the families of those that perished in this horrific tragedy.
@@rogerfournier3284 mine didn't
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Come on now be nice ....
They could help some homeless people in Los Angeles with that amount of money spent for "having fun"
@@AHammock we could help so many with the money for the high tech rescue alone but no, some rich woke slobs keep it for themselves
The employee that was taken to court saying the viewing part was designed to only 1300 feet deep
"I spent more time on the ship than the Captain did" - I love his no- holds-barred arrogance, brilliant.
amazing that he was able to engineer submarine that could withstand such deep pressure in mariana trench, honored to be living in the same time as him. what a legend
Mr Cameron was born in Canada, don't forget. That explains his genius.♥♥♥
I've been obsessed with The Titanic my entire life ever since I was a small kid. I'm also a huge super-fanboy of Aliens and Predator. Jim Cameron directed Aliens, designed the queen Alien for the film, helped design the Predator for the first film, shares my fascination with the Titanic and the ocean, and he also brought us Jessica Alba who I crushed on. My life would literally not be the same without James Cameron.
I wonder if every potential passenger had had full disclosure, including the lack of certification of the vehicle. If not, it needs to be LAW.
Just like how people don't read the apple agreement when they get an iPhone, im sure they didn't read the waiver
They didn't according to an ex-employee.
@@innocentrage1 😂😂😂😂
@@innocentrage1 🤣🤣That's why I don't purchase iPhones.
well this is in international waters… The vessel was not launched near the beach. it is far onto the middle of the ocean, so.. the rules do not apply there.
We know that those certification things for vessel like this is just merely for self assurance NOT the law.
Not the ending we all hoped for. My thoughts and prayers are with the family and friends of those who perished. James Cameron is a class act.
speak for yourself...
@@nachoamigo wow, so edgy...
@@nachoamigo Grow up
@@JulieR73 I did, and this is what I became. If you want me to sympathize with some wealthy people who have no regard on how the rest of the world works, tell the government to stop education all together so I can be a good little downtrodden boy.
When cameron said, ( the guy who just died in that implosion, ) had a censor built in to let him know if the structure of his sub was cracking ; that was tragically comical. Then what do you do, at that point ? pray ? it is too late. Cameron was right by saying, it was giving him a false sense of security. The poor dude did not seem to have his priorities in the right order. It cost him his life and the life of his passengers. I wonder if that censor told him, the sub was in fact, falling apart ? so he would have been coming back up ? O well, we know what happened. The structure failed !
I just cant see spending 250 thousand dollars a peace 5 people just to go see a grave site its stupid and now there dead all that money could have went to a poor person that needed it. what a wast of money to die for just saying
The main stupid thing was no ability to track it
The satellite got destroyed as it went further into the water.
@@starlightrocks7James Cameron sub doesn't have that issue.
By who ? Shark 🦈
Someone asked about bodies being recovered. There sadly isnt anything left..
Well first thing I would check if they recover it is where the titanium door bolted to the composite hull.
Creepy that the submarine was named after the sunken ship and now has met the same fate.
The carbon fiber cone design was the failure point on this submersible. Any intelligent engineer, familiar with pressures, would agree.
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yeap, that corn for the unicorn.
The lack of successful testing and reaching milestones were major failure points.
Yeah I remember seeing pictures of it months ago when they announced they would be taking it down to the titanic. Very curious as to why they didn’t go the capsule shape route
I didn’t know you were an authority in forensic engineering. Please share the facts you have.
@@sammyday3341ommon sense which is not as fashionable today, may have whispered to him that a spherical construction is more stable at such depth
It's safer to travel to low earth orbit than it is to travel to the ocean floor.
This is so surreal that James Cameron himself is talking about the Titan disaster tied to the Titanic. This is both epic and tragic! Salute to you Mr Cameron.🇬🇾
2023 and the Titanic is still claiming lives due to negligence
Condolences to the families of all the occupants on this submersible. Tragic irony! They came to see a historic wreckage. But, they became part of a historic wreckage.
It's a pleasure listening to someone that knows. He explained what we all wanted to know.
the titanic is at a depth of 13,000 feet , Ocean gates Titan Sub is designed at a max depth of 13,125 and is several years old and in 2018 a person who worked for ocean gate that was a expert said the sub is unsafe and has pressure cracks in the carbon fiber that could grow bigger and cause catastrophic failer...the fact is the Sub itself was old and was barely designed too reach that depth in the first place !!!
James Cameron, I appreciate his perfectionist opinion.
Also, the captain went down with the ship with many rich people and made headline news around the world.
Again….🤦🏾♀️
It’s sad that the warning system probably alerted them that they were about to die by implosion. Arguably better than running out of air. RIP. Prayers for the families and friends.
The most expensive game ever played: the Titanic tourist submarine that went missing was controlled by a Logitech gaming controller from 2010 😬
A missing submarine, called Titan, charged 5 people $250,000 per seat yet had a very unusual choice for its steering mechanism.
Instead of a traditional control system, the experimental vessel used a gaming controller that costs only $29.99. The Logitech F710 wireless PC game controller from 2010 was employed to navigate the submarine.
But that's not even the crazy part.
On top of that, a homemade submarine had bolted panels instead of doors, no safety cable to the mothership, and no tracking system in place. It lost communication 1 hour and 45 minutes after they submerged.
It's not AI we should fear - it's our stupidity.
'The Convergence of the twain'. For anyone who doesn't know Thomas Hardy's poem about the titanic and the iceberg please read the poem. It's wonderful and says it all.
Cameron knows what he's talkibg about, man. Very sad. Tragic. Very ironic and kinda poetic. They joined the legacy of the titanic grave site. They even brought their own tomb...😔
This shows again, more than a century later, that richness, hubris and stupidity can always be good friends, and travel together, with the Titanic...or the Vasa Fleet before, so science, discipline and knowledge seem to be placed in another foreign dimension...
Apparently according to a family member, the 19 year old kid was terrified to come on board but was pressured by his father and agreed to come because it's Father's day.
Maybe after this catastrophe it will put a end to all these ridiculous sideshow circus trips to the Titanic. Hopefully billionaires can come up with new ways to spend there money a little bit more safer than this.
Yep! Knowing the rich peoples arrogance they’ll go into outer space next and this same tragedy will happen again.
Nope. keep "exploring" otherwise they get into politics.
They should just give it to me and in exchange I'll give them an Xbox controller that works and that they can play deep sea video games on a TV and keep their lives
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Yeah like Soros & son
I pray people will now leave the titanic alone and let them souls rest in peace 🙏🏽. Stop disrespecting them... there were signs things were going to end like this..that underwater sardine can death trap didn't look safe at all.
Amen ☁️🎺👼💒🙏🌹✨
Thank you engineers
And Condolences 🙏🏿 to all families
In this horrible grief
Gosh, I don't know why, but for me, fun is not climbing into a sealed pipe and dropping like lead into the depths of the ocean to see a rusty ship that killed a bunch of people.
AND Rush's wife was the billionaire, inheritance from her great, great grandparents who were Strauss (founders of Macy's) and they died on the Titanic! In the movie she would not leave him. SOO in a round about way, their money paid for the Titan. And now Titanic has claimed some more billionaires !
This whole story is so freaking eerie man. Titan was also the name of a late 1800's novel that had a lot of similaties to the Titanic disaster. And they decided to name the submersible "Titan". Bruh, at this point this is almost like a mockery.
@@-_deploy_- oh my gosh, I know of that book and I forgot the name was Titan! Man, who would name their vessel after THaT DISASTROUS ship?! Well, Stockton I guess. Very weird.
Whatever James Cameron says about deep water diving you can take it as straight facts. The guy dove to the deepest part of the ocean, over three times the depth of the Titanic. Wokeness is a sickness that not only makes you go broke but in this case it cost lives. This is what happens when you stop listening to experienced deep water divers simply because “they’re a bunch of veteran 50 year old white guys.” And when your main goal when hiring or implementing safety standards is being diverse over simply hiring the most qualified and experienced candidates for the job. When will people learn?
Uh...what does "wokeness" have to do with any of this?
Are you confused?
"wokeness"?? More like greed.
Do you know what is involved in making a low alloy high yield steel pressure vessel? Machining. Pre-heating. Welding. Heat treatment. Quenching. Tempering. -XRay and UT NDE examination. More machining. All that costs money. A lot of money.
They thought they were smart and figured out a way to get around that with materials that were totally unsuited to long term usage in this application, but were cheaper. It was all about $. It has nothing to do with being "woke".
Wokeness?? No, GREED AND RECKLESSNESS. “Woke” term is old and used one to many times for too many yrs.
The CEO of this company who built the sub was some 50 year old white guy, so it had nothing to do with wokeness. Pushing your agenda here a little too hard…
James Cameron: “my man” representing motocross with his Thor jersey! 👊🏽
The world is a better place because of you James. Thanks for weighing in on this sad event.
Wow, it took 111 yrs for more people to die down there, right there where pieces of the Titanic still sits to this day. Doomed from the start both voyages. Warnings sounded and no one paid heed. They took no NOTE!
I could listen to Cameron all day, so fascinating.
It's time for a sequel, James