Kraken 50 outshines all of these 6. Exposed rudders in ocean cruisers is a risk not worth taking! For these prices, having a double unprotected rudder is like throwing good money after bad.
Not a completely fair comparison - the Amel 60 is a big step in size. For me, it's a choice between the HR 50 and a Kraken 50 (not even in the video). Similarly priced and both suited to global blue water ventures.
I really think going off shore in a boat with twin unprotected spade rudders is a bad idea . Its just a risk that you don't have to take . Not crazy about bolt on keels either. Also im a little tired of only seeing the interiors of boats. whats beneath the water line and its construction is truly what makes a bluewater boat.
Agree with you here. My dream boat for bluewater cruising is a Kraken 50. Zero Keel, Reinforced Skeg Rudder. V-shaped hull, Single Helm Center Cockpit... Krakens are purpose built for world cruising. Dunno why it isn't on this list.
Will not dispute that Kraken is a good boat but the very (overly?) Concervative take on bluewater boating is ... close-minded? If we were going by previously-proven solutions we would not have strayed much from 15-century caravels- yes, those safe and solid floating tubs of vessels with speeds up to solid 3-4 knots at heavy breeze... If I planned to sail antarctica and Oatagonia, my dream boat would be Garcia 60, but since it is so unlikely I will ever do that, for island hopping - be it Martha's vineyard or just enjoying a day out on the water, something like jewel-like Saffier would be great too! Its like - can you cross US driving a Porsche 911? Of course! You will be much less comfortable than an RV Motorhome but you'll do it in third of time. Same with boats- do you need an RV motorhome on water or will a Porsche on water suffice? (Saffier are certainly much more fun to sail if you are into sailing as opoosed to using boat as a cheap mode of transport)...
@@yoryteperman429 I think the dispute with blue-water comes from the lack of solid definition. The article is about "world cruising" which involves ocean crossings. Many of which take longer than any weather forecast go to (if you can even trust a forecast). As such you are eventually going to get caught in bad weather which puts a lot of stresses on a boat. Stresses that most production boats today are not designed to handle repeatedly. The last thing you want is for a catastrophic failure to happen when you are 1,000+ nm from land. (Especially if you have your family on board) Can you cross the ocean in a production boat.. yes, but there are greater than necessary risk involved. There have been too many stories in the last few years of demastings, keels falling off, or loss of steering (either rudder falling off, breaking, or getting ripped of by an orca) .. Even the very renown Don Kretmar recently suffered a demasting. For your 911 vs RV comparison. Yes, you could use a Porsche to cross the United States, but where are you going to sleep in a 911? Cook food for your family? Store all your gear for activities? ..There aren't any Hotels or McDonalds just out floating in the middle of the ocean. And yes the Garcia is nice for high latitude sailing. However there are drawbacks to using aluminum hulls. Such as having to be extra cautious of stray currents.
For world cruising.. a couple of these are good.. but some of them are questionable.. Remember when sailing around the world, its not a matter of 'if' you get caught in a storm. Its a matter of 'when' you get caught in a storm. I can only imagine sitting at twin rears in 2 or 3 meter seas. Why is the Kraken 50 not on this list? To my knowledge, Krakens are literally the only boat built today that is designed specifically for world cruising.
Your mic is making very difficult to hear you with the eco and music. But great information cheers. My father spent 20+ years building a 54ft trimaran best of the best.
Certainly Krakens are beautiful boats. Right in the middle of making a video on the Kraken 50. Should be out in the next few days. Keep an eye out for it.
Yes, I agree it was a bit of an oversight but I tried to rectify this by doing a video just on the Kraken 50. Here's the link. Excuse the Pirate voice , I was experimenting with different ideas at the time. th-cam.com/video/0sNVOWOdGf0/w-d-xo.html
The vid should have been named - top 6 ... boats YOU were aware of, as there are so many superior blue watee boats out there in these lengths that frankly every and each one of these can be replaced with a better boat... These are more common, more WV-gens of boating, not customs or even semi-customs... Cheers!
Garcia make great boats. I cover the Garcia Exploration 45 in my video On Explorer Sailboats. Here's the link: th-cam.com/video/O5oIFq8Dzwo/w-d-xo.html
A Bavaria 57 in standard trim is not really a blue water yacht. If you equip it with optional generator, watermaker, airco and a true ocean going sailplan. Price will quickly come close to that of blue water cruisers that comes standard equiped with all of that.
None of these boats are suirable for high latitude sailing. No heaters are visible and its not fun being outside when the temp is -15C 25 knots of wind and its snowing.. Where is the inside helm station?
Exactly. Where's is the Boreal, Garcia, Allures and Ovni in this overview. Or look at the Dutch shipbuilders likes KM-Yachtbuilders with their Bestevaers. Those are serious ocean going yachts.
Bénéteau !!! Are serious no please Jeanneau he is much good . Hallberg for Cruise the world is the best ! but in an aluminum hull, not to mention exploration, the Bestevaer as a boat for easy and safe navigation
These are indead very nice boats BUT they are all coastal sailing boats!!!! Unless you want to gamble... For real bluewater world cruising yachts take a look at boats like Kraken which are actuallyt specced for bluewater and everything that comes with that from a safety perspective.
A beautiful boat. It's just been named European Yacht of the Year for 2023. I feature it in my latest video on boat releases for 2023. Here's the Link:th-cam.com/video/SqNCV2sD8wI/w-d-xo.html
Dude you got some serious work to do if you want to make this work. you say your top 6 world cruising monos, yet you only show 5 and of those, two would be classed more as a coastal cruiser rather than a serious world cruising contender. Leave the music out, it adds nothing to the viewing experience. I wish you well. Good luck.
There are 6 boats shown in the video: 0:38 - Hanse 460 2:04: - Hallberg Rassy 50 3:30 - Oyster 495 5:11 - Dufour 530 6:51 - Bavaria C57 8;37 - Amel 60 It seems the TH-cam Ai is not infallible the chapter breakdowns have missed the Dufour 530 after the Oyster 495 and miss named a couple of other boats as well. The Hallberg Rassy, Oyster and Amel all have significant blue water pedigrees and the Dufour 530 and Bavaria C57 are pretty big to be considered coastal cruisers. The Hanse 460 was named the European Yacht of the Year for 2022 which suggest it has more ability than just coastal sailing and so I guess we are going to disagree. The idea of reviewing boats is to identify which suits your type of sailing and needs and so if you think a boat isn't suitable to cross oceans then you should buy a different boat. Thanks for the comment.
Also as the editor I get to see the content without the music and to leave it out would make for a very dry and uninteresting video in which you would get very sick of the drone of my voice very quickly. Maybe I need to do a better job of selection?
I think the ideal size for world cruising is between 45 and 50 feet. Gives good speed and enough room for comfort. The Amel 60 has great sailing systems to enable short handed sailing and it size would make it very comfortable at anchor and this would make it attractive to some.
@@crazyaboutboats6901 Yes they would make for some nice cruising. Spacious, longer hull providing more hull speed, etc. But they are also more costly. Initial purchase cost, maintenance and upkeep, dockside, etc and one simply does not need all that space and cost for a couple cruising around. But everyone opinion will vary. And this is kind of my main point, you appealed to only one portion. Attractive to some, not attractive to all. FYI: Amel 60 is not even in your own specified ideal size :/
@@kevinfisher1345 “too expensive” and “one does need so much room” are terribly subjective, in fact, I cannot think of anything more subjective than cost and size requirements. There are pros and cons to larger yachts, just as there are with monos vs multi, hull material, furling options and everything else yacht related. Whether you doing this at age 30 or 55 makes a huge difference in both factors. Point is one man’s westsail 32 is another’s amel 60. My wife and I are shoving off long term shortly after the conclusion of next school year, we are still going back and forth on yacht choice but it will be much more like the Amel 60. Why? Because I would not be going if I tried the westsail, or even a 40 footer… or anything that did not allow for certain guest and comfort (both volume and motion) requirements. Point is- best yacht is the one that gets you out there, and after that it’s all just gravy (I personally prefer gravy with 10kt hull speeds)
@@sstroh32 I agree with everything you said. And you just illustrated my point as well. One persons 32 is another persons 60 ... and yet these are all just large (and rather nice) boats. For a real top / best of list, it should be more inclusive of a majority and attempting to appeal to as many as you can. This list only appeals to one portion of the market.
@@sstroh32 Have you tried maintaining a typical production 60 footer just the two of you? Even just keeping it in half presentable condition? Of course, if you hire most of it out, take crews for longer passages, and have a service agreement with someone, that's all moot. But otherwise, $2.5million, in a typical "more is better" production boat; buys you an absolutely insane amount of stuff which needs inspection, maintenance, upkeep, cleaning and keeping on top of. Living at anchor in the outer back-of-beyonds indefinitely, is not going to be easy. While at the same time, the explosion in boat sizes over the past decade, means Marinas are still mostly left far behind, wrt available slip sizes. So then you have an additional full time job lined up, arranging for slip space wherever you go..... Big boats are best left for those travelling with a crew. Or for short term charters. Let someone else, who gets paid to do so, deal with all the futz and logistics. A fair share of the The "Amel market": Dedicated, specific-time-set-aside, route planned, circumnavigators, is arguably where some extra size makes the most sense. Those guys live on the boat for two to three years full-time; make long, open ocean passages one after the other; and tend to be extremely well prepared. But that's a rather specific niche. For most, it's honestly not much different from camping: You CAN go far into the wilderness while bringing all the amenities of a luxury condo. It's just an insane amount of work schlepping it all there. To the point where, for most of those who have tried, it's preferable to instead get used to just a tent, mat and sleeping bag.
Everybody is entitled to their opinion. I actually didn't include a Beneteau in this video. Do mean the Bavaria? I do try to include a range of boats at different price points and sizes otherwise it would just be the most expensive boats all the time. Thanks for you comment.
It's a pity the background music is mixed so high, drowning out & distracting the narration ... 🇬🇧
Kraken 50 outshines all of these 6. Exposed rudders in ocean cruisers is a risk not worth taking! For these prices, having a double unprotected rudder is like throwing good money after bad.
Not a completely fair comparison - the Amel 60 is a big step in size. For me, it's a choice between the HR 50 and a Kraken 50 (not even in the video). Similarly priced and both suited to global blue water ventures.
I really think going off shore in a boat with twin unprotected spade rudders is a bad idea . Its just a risk that you don't have to take . Not crazy about bolt on keels either. Also im a little tired of only seeing the interiors of boats. whats beneath the water line and its construction is truly what makes a bluewater boat.
Agree with you here. My dream boat for bluewater cruising is a Kraken 50. Zero Keel, Reinforced Skeg Rudder. V-shaped hull, Single Helm Center Cockpit... Krakens are purpose built for world cruising. Dunno why it isn't on this list.
@@rebelwolves Krakens are probably the best new bluewater semi production boats being built today , They should be number one on the list !
Will not dispute that Kraken is a good boat but the very (overly?) Concervative take on bluewater boating is ... close-minded? If we were going by previously-proven solutions we would not have strayed much from 15-century caravels- yes, those safe and solid floating tubs of vessels with speeds up to solid 3-4 knots at heavy breeze... If I planned to sail antarctica and Oatagonia, my dream boat would be Garcia 60, but since it is so unlikely I will ever do that, for island hopping - be it Martha's vineyard or just enjoying a day out on the water, something like jewel-like Saffier would be great too! Its like - can you cross US driving a Porsche 911? Of course! You will be much less comfortable than an RV Motorhome but you'll do it in third of time. Same with boats- do you need an RV motorhome on water or will a Porsche on water suffice? (Saffier are certainly much more fun to sail if you are into sailing as opoosed to using boat as a cheap mode of transport)...
@@yoryteperman429 I think the dispute with blue-water comes from the lack of solid definition.
The article is about "world cruising" which involves ocean crossings. Many of which take longer than any weather forecast go to (if you can even trust a forecast). As such you are eventually going to get caught in bad weather which puts a lot of stresses on a boat. Stresses that most production boats today are not designed to handle repeatedly. The last thing you want is for a catastrophic failure to happen when you are 1,000+ nm from land. (Especially if you have your family on board)
Can you cross the ocean in a production boat.. yes, but there are greater than necessary risk involved. There have been too many stories in the last few years of demastings, keels falling off, or loss of steering (either rudder falling off, breaking, or getting ripped of by an orca) .. Even the very renown Don Kretmar recently suffered a demasting.
For your 911 vs RV comparison. Yes, you could use a Porsche to cross the United States, but where are you going to sleep in a 911? Cook food for your family? Store all your gear for activities? ..There aren't any Hotels or McDonalds just out floating in the middle of the ocean.
And yes the Garcia is nice for high latitude sailing. However there are drawbacks to using aluminum hulls. Such as having to be extra cautious of stray currents.
Yep I can not stand looking at boats and it showing and saying nothing about the keel type and only showing a nice interior
For world cruising.. a couple of these are good.. but some of them are questionable.. Remember when sailing around the world, its not a matter of 'if' you get caught in a storm. Its a matter of 'when' you get caught in a storm.
I can only imagine sitting at twin rears in 2 or 3 meter seas.
Why is the Kraken 50 not on this list? To my knowledge, Krakens are literally the only boat built today that is designed specifically for world cruising.
I believe Pegasus 50 is as well, though pretty small company
“The only”??? Can’t be serious!
@@andream.464 tel us another lone then
Seascape windows of an Oyster and aft owner cabin. So sweet!
What a boat ,Rustler and island packet ❤🎉real cruiser boats al your ship's are good in a harbor save en dry😂
The Dufour seems the best bang for dollars.
Just wondering where the Dutch aluminium monohulls should be classified. They are pretty capable boats for everything.
Your mic is making very difficult to hear you with the eco and music. But great information cheers. My father spent 20+ years building a 54ft trimaran best of the best.
THIS VIDEO IS MADE FOR RICH YANKEES, I GOT A KAYAK . GREAT VIDEO . SALUDOS
Kraken all the way!
Certainly Krakens are beautiful boats. Right in the middle of making a video on the Kraken 50. Should be out in the next few days. Keep an eye out for it.
Ditto
The Amel 60 for me ! ❤
Great boats!
Kraken? How you can miss Kraken Yachts from a list of best blue water boats is concerning.
Yes, I agree it was a bit of an oversight but I tried to rectify this by doing a video just on the Kraken 50. Here's the link. Excuse the Pirate voice , I was experimenting with different ideas at the time.
th-cam.com/video/0sNVOWOdGf0/w-d-xo.html
And Garcia!
Kraken is really the only GRP Bluewater sailboat being built out there today.
Not including a Kraken sailboat in this list is ridiculous. They are probably the safest ocean crossing luxury boat out there
What about Ocean star 51.2 or 56? Any opinions?
The vid should have been named - top 6 ... boats YOU were aware of, as there are so many superior blue watee boats out there in these lengths that frankly every and each one of these can be replaced with a better boat... These are more common, more WV-gens of boating, not customs or even semi-customs... Cheers!
Hylas 48 or 56 would be my pick.
I'll make a note to do a review on Hylas. thanks for watching.
Garcia Exploration 60... 😎🌍🌎🌏🌴
Garcia make great boats. I cover the Garcia Exploration 45 in my video On Explorer Sailboats. Here's the link: th-cam.com/video/O5oIFq8Dzwo/w-d-xo.html
@@crazyaboutboats6901 Garcia exploration 60, Garcia exploration 52, Allures 51.9...
Garcia 45 👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼🇺🇸
Certainly a nice boat. Good for exploring.
came here to add this. of course it's taken care of by some ol' salt
thanks
Why is the babaria 57 far less costly than other boats pf the same size?
A Bavaria 57 in standard trim is not really a blue water yacht. If you equip it with optional generator, watermaker, airco and a true ocean going sailplan. Price will quickly come close to that of blue water cruisers that comes standard equiped with all of that.
Build quality...
Bavaria C57 👏👏👏👏🏆
Nice choice!
Top motosailer?😊
None of these boats are suirable for high latitude sailing. No heaters are visible and its not fun being outside when the temp is -15C 25 knots of wind and its snowing.. Where is the inside helm station?
Exactly. Where's is the Boreal, Garcia, Allures and Ovni in this overview. Or look at the Dutch shipbuilders likes KM-Yachtbuilders with their Bestevaers. Those are serious ocean going yachts.
What no Kraken 50/60?
They look like beautiful boats. I was unaware of them but probably should've been.
Kraken 50 is at the top of my list😍😍😍😍
Really like the outbound 48 , but I sell jeannueas the 410 is fun
Outbounds look like very nice boats.
Bénéteau !!! Are serious no please Jeanneau he is much good . Hallberg for Cruise the world is the best ! but in an aluminum hull, not to mention exploration, the Bestevaer as a boat for easy and safe navigation
I had to leave something out and so unfortunately it was Beneteau but they make great boats.
Best video ever
These are indead very nice boats BUT they are all coastal sailing boats!!!! Unless you want to gamble... For real bluewater world cruising yachts take a look at boats like Kraken which are actuallyt specced for bluewater and everything that comes with that from a safety perspective.
can u please put less reverb on your recorded voice 😅
This is a fairly old video and I have issues which I hope I've fixed but audio is a tricky thing.
I dream about a Yyachts Y7 ;)
I can see why. They look amazing!
Too much music. Words can hardly be heard.
3:46 that’s a bit over lol
oyster495 ！my dream boat！
A beautiful boat. It's just been named European Yacht of the Year for 2023. I feature it in my latest video on boat releases for 2023.
Here's the Link:th-cam.com/video/SqNCV2sD8wI/w-d-xo.html
Dude you got some serious work to do if you want to make this work.
you say your top 6 world cruising monos, yet you only show 5 and of those, two would be classed more as a coastal cruiser rather than a serious world cruising contender.
Leave the music out, it adds nothing to the viewing experience.
I wish you well. Good luck.
There are 6 boats shown in the video:
0:38 - Hanse 460
2:04: - Hallberg Rassy 50
3:30 - Oyster 495
5:11 - Dufour 530
6:51 - Bavaria C57
8;37 - Amel 60
It seems the TH-cam Ai is not infallible the chapter breakdowns have missed the Dufour 530 after the Oyster 495 and miss named a couple of other boats as well.
The Hallberg Rassy, Oyster and Amel all have significant blue water pedigrees and the Dufour 530 and Bavaria C57 are pretty big to be considered coastal cruisers. The Hanse 460 was named the European Yacht of the Year for 2022 which suggest it has more ability than just coastal sailing and so I guess we are going to disagree. The idea of reviewing boats is to identify which suits your type of sailing and needs and so if you think a boat isn't suitable to cross oceans then you should buy a different boat.
Thanks for the comment.
Also as the editor I get to see the content without the music and to leave it out would make for a very dry and uninteresting video in which you would get very sick of the drone of my voice very quickly. Maybe I need to do a better job of selection?
@@crazyaboutboats6901turn down the volume a bit
Bro can you tell which one is real sailor boats and which is coastal in this video? Because now I'm confused about the credibility of this video
I wouldn't pick any of them over a Kraken
Each one,… in a fleet
Minute 9:37. Wait...wait? That''s not an Amel 60!
😂😂🤣 Nearly 12K viewers including me and the you're the first to pick it! Yes that's a Bavaria C57! Apologies for that little editing glitch.
🤦🏻😂
Marina queens.
If you want a more robust sailboat then maybe you should watch this video. th-cam.com/video/O5oIFq8Dzwo/w-d-xo.html
No Kraken, and especially no Garcia? not to talk about no Swan or moody. or Hylas.......mhhh
Oyster 885 SII every time.
Amazing boat, though needs a crew and is about 5 times as expensive as the ones named here.
Nice video but man, lose the annoying music.
All nice boats, but half of them are way to large to be cruising the world.
I think the ideal size for world cruising is between 45 and 50 feet. Gives good speed and enough room for comfort. The Amel 60 has great sailing systems to enable short handed sailing and it size would make it very comfortable at anchor and this would make it attractive to some.
@@crazyaboutboats6901 Yes they would make for some nice cruising. Spacious, longer hull providing more hull speed, etc. But they are also more costly. Initial purchase cost, maintenance and upkeep, dockside, etc and one simply does not need all that space and cost for a couple cruising around. But everyone opinion will vary. And this is kind of my main point, you appealed to only one portion. Attractive to some, not attractive to all.
FYI: Amel 60 is not even in your own specified ideal size :/
@@kevinfisher1345 “too expensive” and “one does need so much room” are terribly subjective, in fact, I cannot think of anything more subjective than cost and size requirements.
There are pros and cons to larger yachts, just as there are with monos vs multi, hull material, furling options and everything else yacht related. Whether you doing this at age 30 or 55 makes a huge difference in both factors.
Point is one man’s westsail 32 is another’s amel 60. My wife and I are shoving off long term shortly after the conclusion of next school year, we are still going back and forth on yacht choice but it will be much more like the Amel 60. Why? Because I would not be going if I tried the westsail, or even a 40 footer… or anything that did not allow for certain guest and comfort (both volume and motion) requirements. Point is- best yacht is the one that gets you out there, and after that it’s all just gravy (I personally prefer gravy with 10kt hull speeds)
@@sstroh32 I agree with everything you said. And you just illustrated my point as well. One persons 32 is another persons 60 ... and yet these are all just large (and rather nice) boats. For a real top / best of list, it should be more inclusive of a majority and attempting to appeal to as many as you can. This list only appeals to one portion of the market.
@@sstroh32 Have you tried maintaining a typical production 60 footer just the two of you? Even just keeping it in half presentable condition?
Of course, if you hire most of it out, take crews for longer passages, and have a service agreement with someone, that's all moot.
But otherwise, $2.5million, in a typical "more is better" production boat; buys you an absolutely insane amount of stuff which needs inspection, maintenance, upkeep, cleaning and keeping on top of. Living at anchor in the outer back-of-beyonds indefinitely, is not going to be easy. While at the same time, the explosion in boat sizes over the past decade, means Marinas are still mostly left far behind, wrt available slip sizes. So then you have an additional full time job lined up, arranging for slip space wherever you go.....
Big boats are best left for those travelling with a crew. Or for short term charters. Let someone else, who gets paid to do so, deal with all the futz and logistics. A fair share of the The "Amel market": Dedicated, specific-time-set-aside, route planned, circumnavigators, is arguably where some extra size makes the most sense. Those guys live on the boat for two to three years full-time; make long, open ocean passages one after the other; and tend to be extremely well prepared. But that's a rather specific niche.
For most, it's honestly not much different from camping: You CAN go far into the wilderness while bringing all the amenities of a luxury condo. It's just an insane amount of work schlepping it all there. To the point where, for most of those who have tried, it's preferable to instead get used to just a tent, mat and sleeping bag.
if beneteau is good everything is... are you serious? dislike for the wrong info and poor reasearch and clickbait...
Everybody is entitled to their opinion. I actually didn't include a Beneteau in this video. Do mean the Bavaria? I do try to include a range of boats at different price points and sizes otherwise it would just be the most expensive boats all the time. Thanks for you comment.
Amel 60
Garcia 52
It is a great boat
Amel 50
They are beautiful.
Any
Me too!
Boars too big for single handed world cruising
Get rid of the Bavaria ! It seriously does not belong in this list! Throw in a grand Solei or Solaris instead hell and Elan is way better than Bavaria
Get rid of the stupid annoying background music, would probably get a lot more views,likes,and subs. Could only make it half way
Weird voice, not for me. Is this an infomecial?
oyster495 well built to take you anywhere in the world solid yachts
Oyster 495 are beautiful sailboats and are certainly one of my favourites.
Garcia 52