The OTTOMANS are just OVERPOWERED
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 22 ส.ค. 2024
- The ottomans are present in two paradox games - EU4 and Victoria 3. Now, we bring them into the third as we play as the Ottoman Empire in CK3. Even in this game, the ottomans are overpowered. We try to out conquer the ottoman caliphs by taking out the byzantine empire (or byzantium) and claiming the mantle of the Roman Empire. Let's see if the turks can best the romans!
The OTTOMANS are just OVERPOWERED
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Laith Nation will be the new British Cyprus
We could topple a Caribbean country if we got like 4k people
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Lathinians shall rule the world
@@fuadlabib703 the Laithi are supreme
The Laith Nation has found its new host.
Laith, the reason people tell you giving land to your non heir sons is a bad idea is that they all get a claim on your title. So when your king dies, at least a few of them will try to form factions to claim your land. If you give them land, they have more troops to fight you.
Also: The Land gives them the Option to either amass Wealth and or Prestige (relevancy depends on Feudal or not). So if they hold Land for Long, they can build up there Armies, were as when they just Inherit the Land, they only have so much Time to accumulate Wealth.
@@w4lshy425 Read the comment again
In theory, if the kid is content or has a few other traits, they probably wont try to press their claims, but its an unnecessary risk
Ok but after they die and die they lose claims and get their current territory and expand
Splendor from landed family members is definitely worth it, I've consistently gotten 40+ learning characters just stacking modifiers for example, handling succession is not that hard, you can also purposely lose it as well and just continue with the next character cause they're from your dynasty anyway.
I love when you go off topic and talk about the history, the history is part of the reason i love these games.
i wanna see this guy playing his own hometown
Personally i find those random historical time outs in the videos very entertaining ,they put a bit of extra spicyness. Also it raises the question in my mind , what did you study in university?Because you talk very confidently about history like you just take a page out of a mind book and read it , you dont even stutter ma man loves history!
@@Diego-og7nk i know i just assume that when you talk about it in public ,you probably have some relation to the subject
I think he mentioned he's studying business and history? At some point.
@@thegamingallosaurus7281 oh ok
Iirc he said he wrote a paper on the Merovingians and it's a subject he's heavily studied
Laith please never stop your history side tangents. It’s always intriguing to know your opinion on historical figures
England actually has TWO kings that are styled as "The Great"
First was Alfred, and the second is Canute the Great, King of Denmark, England and Norway
But because he wasn't "English" he's always excluded for some reason
@@grievuspwn4g3 Yeah Denmark is obviously better than the other 2
Is there a way to get “the great” nickname? My previous emperor was able to unite Italy, vassalize France and do spain reconquista 300 years early, while being a bastard, yet he was remembered for his learning 😑. I feel like that’s worthy of being called “the great”
@@Chadius_Thundercock Forming Portugal is the easiest way to get you that title (but you must be duke or lower).
His name was Cnut not Canute
@@mildlyinfuriatedbird2557 Canute is just the Anglicized spelling, it means the same thing. There is no right way of spelling names that existed before the English language
The random historical facts are the best parts of the vid, it makes the gameplay so much more interesting because it kinda adds more depth to the story. Also really cool seeing you talk about something that interests you like that, because I can confirm that 99% of the people watching, including myself, are also massive history nerds.
Next Video you should have the Laith Nation rise up in EU4 as a custom nation
I love how passionate this dude gets about history lol
i am praying for laith to start customizing his empire names, coats of arms and map colours. its my only wish for christmas lmao
i love the random historical facts mixed in with the content
14:50 I believe the term/a term that can be used is “black swan event”
An event that before it happens seems impossible and after seemed inevitable, completely changing history.
By far my favorite video. Absolutely LOVE hearing about historical facts in these videos!
do you know if this is a mod or an actualy in-game start date?
I always say it when you bring up the historical discussions but I really do enjoy your historical tangents. I’m not as familiar with European history of this era and it’s not a part I’m going to school to study for, nor do I research it on my own time, so I always enjoy getting glimpses into it from someone like yourself who has done a lot of research on the region and period.
More explaining of history jokes please, really enjoying the content
The little factoids give this channel a unique character. I really like them 😁
Actually it was a common practice for ottoman sultans to grant a province to their children. These provinces were called sanjaks. The sultan would grant the closest sanjak to his favourite child so that he'd make it to the capital first become the next sultan. That's how ottoman succession actually worked. He would not verbally declare his heir.
Love the side tangents, keep doing them
I already love it every time you talk about history but between Ottoman and English history this video was just an absolute delight, they're literally my 2 favorite things to research and talk about
The act of union and the jacobite uprising are things nobody makes alt history about that would change the world
You're not exactly wrong with saying people undertake hajj to gain piety. From where I came from, the titls of Hajj is usually added in front of the names of the person. And if they're running for an election it's considered as an advantage for the majority of old people because it means the person is pious and able (have enough wealth, so is considered is able to manage business and people). But it doesn't prevent them from corruption, just like how some people can undertake Hajj without following the queue (which now is years from signing up until you're notified that you can go that year). Kinda ironic in my opinion
Hey, this intro is something to desire.
Merry Christmas! Have a good holiday, I hope you get to take the day off to spend time with family
I agree with the vassel managment of breaking up duchys. It keeps them weaker and if you need to remove the duchy title you can grant it to another vassel and bury the previous one under him
First off- love when you explain your history jokes
Second- the reason why you don’t want to have your vassal dukes have decentralized vassal counties is because you get less money and troops from them because it’s based off of percentages. And they will be able to build more buildings as they will be richer getting you more money as well
From my experience I always try to give land to family members. It helps keep your realm more stable because family members like you more. I'm not sure why people are saying it's a bad move, I haven't heard that before.
It's mostly because in succession theres a chance of your family members getting claims to your titles and then being able to rebel against you with the land you gave them. Not usually a big deal if you plan out succession though
@@Night-xn1ks I mean I do it as a roleplaying kind of thing myself. It's kind of realistic historically that your children fight for your inheritance
@@Night-xn1ks i never used to give my family land, but now i do. I find woth the 'claim title' and other house head perks you can control a family vassel better then others
The one bad move is to give them to your heir, as you can end up losing some of your Man-at-Arms on succession as they'll make their own, and the ones you previously had are added to that. So if you have 6 max level ones and your heir had 2 low level ones, you are going to lose 2 of your max level ones for nothing.
It also doubles all renown gain you get from vassals bending their knee to you, letting you get even more lifestyle traits for your family to be better vassals and like you more. It's most certainly the best strategy for stability and snowballing.
I never realize how wild the counties are in Anatolia. some are huge and then a super tiny on next to them...
Welcome to Turkic beyliks era
Laith thinking like a true Sultan. Breaking up territory, giving land to his sons, and expanding at the cost of his heirs. That’s a win for the Laith Nation.
Laith should play a custom nation called “Laith nation”
He's literally sticking with Laith-Nation xD Will Greenscreen-Laith stand for this? (0_0)
Me personally, theoretically if I was (in a purely fictional scenario) in a situation like that, I wouldn’t take that
Thank God. During your intro I was like "What, what's happening?". Lol
Love love love love the historical stuff. Makes the videos better, and makes me watch them more and longer because you clearly know your stuff!!
Laith I’m doing an MA in history and shooting for a PhD, hearing other people be passionate about history is the best, keep it up!
Its awesome how passionate you get when you start talking history!
more Elder Kings!!!!
I really liked this video more than usual... you being sincerely interested in researching stuff up on camera, and going off-topic just to explain a joke... I personally find it very nice so... KEEP IT UP LAITH!
I love the jokes that are tied with history. I am all about history. I'd actually really love a side channel of yours dedicated to History during CK3 all the way up to Victoria 3 (867-1940's? I don't know Vic 3's end date) or is HOI4's end date later than Vic3? Idk lol I don't really watch those that much, nor with EU4... too much complexity compared to CK3. BUT I do enjoy your Vic 3 videos ALOT!
I personally love the off topic bits. It teaches me more obscure history, adds to the experience, and keeps me interested.
that american impression was great i saw the american coming inside of laith
best intro youve ever done
Islamic roman empire time
Next up is Jewish roman empire
I absolutely love to listen to Laith history podcasts with some CK3 in the background!
(By the way, small detail: the way you're placed on the screen, we can't actually see the in-game date unfortunately :/)
Personally, if I wanted pure gameplay I'd watch Red Hawk or someone like him, the historical facts are really interesting and are part of the identity of this channel.
I can't begin to expres the amount of joy your CK3 videos bring me. Please never stop.
It may look weird but actually I love when you talk about irl history sometimes I know some new stuff keep doing it
Bad King John, just covered the bills of Richard the Lion Heart. Elanor of Aquitane was the real bawler
Finally someone who shares my hate for Richard Lionheart
The whole landing-sons thing has upsides and downsides. Really up to personal decision. Also OH MY GOD JUST MAKE CUSTOM BANNERS AND COAs
I don't give my heir land. Once I played in France and my enemy sieged my sons castle (he was not in the war) and war instantly ended. The other time is I give my heir county in one of my vassals control. My vassal made him court jester.
Giving land to your heir means he'll start getting stress and take bad stress related perks. He'll also build enemies, possibly cheat on his wife, do ill advised assasination plots, and other subpar decisions. After 10 years he'll be able to chose his own wife and will make a bad alliance. He'll also start wars, or get stuck in rebellions and possibly get wounded/killed.
Please dont stop with your random historical facts or Stories. I Love IT!!
As soon as you started talking about Richard I. I was like, YES! EXACTLY THAT! But John was also a pretty shitty guy because he completely ignored the magna carta which he was forced to sign because of him and Richard.
I love random historical facts you give in the middle of doing something entirely different :DDD
I always just give the whole duchy to a noble of my religion and culture
I love these historical anecdotes/lessons, please continue to do them! They’re so interesting!
the more vassals the more direct tax and levies from vassals and less powerful vassals in factions(maybe)
love your content love from Algeria ❤
"Henry II created the Angevine Empire, bsically by himself"
Eleanor of Aquitaine very much begs to differ, good Sir!
Temur the Lame is called "The Lame" because, well, one of his legs were scarred and got crippled in battle and made him a gimp, and caused him to be called as "Timur-i Leng" in Persian language, roughly translates as Timur the lame, and it is what he was called.
Hey you keep saying on how it’s bad your bringing up so much history, i personally love the history and am trying to learn more about the 900-1500AD years
1:30 you can filter only possible spouses with inheritable traits
That sudden rant of Richard the lion heart is gold
I love the historic stuff in your videos. This is truly a great one ! Thank you.
Laith Nation is unironically all I can think of when I see you now . Meme’d yourself
handing land over to your children who have a claim on the throne will always make vassals rise up to push their claim on succession. best
way around that is disinheriting them before handing over anything.
The brother murder thing wasn't made legal until Mehmed the Conqueror
Dont ever chance man, your videos is amazing! Love the game play AND the random history lessons, keep them coming
I like how you upgrade Hagia sophia to a mosque. Based paradox.
As a history major, I love hearing all the little tidbits lol
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You should give lands to your non-heir children, but not your heir. Land given to heirs before death counts towards there inheritance on realm succession, so you can ensure your heir gets everything they should by setting up second and third sons with backwater duchies on the edge of your realm
it's a bad move to give land to sons if you dont manage their marriages. They can marry if they rule for 10 years. I saw someone explaining this better on a previous video.
i hurt my back once just picking up a tea towel - its weird how some people can survive after their parachute didnt open and some people can die from tripping over their own feet
I like richard the lionheart, his ransom paid for my homecities walls lol
If you give lands to your sons it will be more harder to disinherit them and if you don’t disinherit them they will take parts of your realm on succesion if you don’t have a law that gives it to a single person and even if you do have such a law they will still have claims and be able to form a faction to take those claims from you, there is people that say normal vassals will do the same but this is not true because for one that is not your relative to get a claim on your kingdom they would have to have The Meritocracy perk from stewardship ideas, or to inherit a claim through a marriage, or through the descision that requires them to own most of your lands and a few other ways, all of these non relative claimants are more easily dealt with and in general will happen way less then relatives.
You have special soldiers because that time, there were a lot of turkish nomad who want to settle new land in Anatolia so all of them joined ottoman empire againt christian countries. Thus when you look ottoman expansion you can see that they expanded firstly in Europe(balkans) but after that there were not enough Turkish people as a setteler so they turn Anatolia part for Turkish muslim man power bro
18:14 quick/intelligent/genius traits mean better educators, and half of learning is added to the relevant skill to determine how good they are
You want to give land to your like top ~2 heirs in succession, so they start to build up prestige - 2 in case the top one dies. Apart from that they get claims on your kingdom so if there's tonnes of them with power kicking around that's fast track to civil war after succession.
Plus side is with some family dynasties it will make your land and realm stronger because all the renown compounds with greater effect I think, and included in that would be bonuses to opinion, and as house head you can more easily subdue them. And if they are powerful they have more kids, therefore you get some more renown for a large family and / or can marry off more family members to diplomatically take thrones, or can more easily genetically engineer your dynasty.
I.e. I believe if they were disinherited and then given land then it would be pretty much all upsides, it's mainly because they get claims on main title that it becomes a problem.
Also when it comes to giving out titles, it does weaken the vassals and also weakens you because you get a percentage of the troops they get, which is filtered through their vassals, and also them being more divided means they can develop their lands less which again over time means you could end up weaker. I don't believe it's significant though either way.
Just so you know, absolutely love the historical stuff, its very much stimulating to me history brain
It is fun when we read wikipedia together. I agree, Richard was terrible for the economy. I also hand out duchies piecemeal so Dukes don't instantly have a massive personal powerbase. Personally? No strong opinions on Bucephalus. Thank you for the cursed religious map. Merry Christmas.
We are here because we like history so don't change
I looked it up, there seems to have been a ‘The Conqueror’ in Portugal, the HRE, Aragon, Brittany, the Ottoman Empire, Russia, England and Denmark.
Don't worry Laith, I actually appreciate the tid bits of English history.
The problem with giving land to your heir is Domain Limit.
One you die and you heir inherits your land, you will again have to give the plan away to someone new. And every time you do that it resets the power accumulation.
When a land is held for generation it can amass wealth and power.
you can use royal court to make the banner of your kingdom title be the ottoman banner
15:30 ngl I love it. More random historical shtttttt.
The reason not to give stuff to your heirs past the claims and factions they'll make is that they'll get embroiled in all the politics that having them just chill in your court spares them from. A lot of time if you do that you'll have your heir do stupid things while the AI was controlling him and you'll be stuck fixing them for most of his remaining life.
This was one of the most enjoyable campaigns I've seen.
the name timurlane come from iranian Timur-i leng which means "timur the Limping" usen by ottomans to moch his injurie on his leg. probably europian records taken this nickname as actual name.
loved the history lesson, please do these more!
Timur was from Central Asia and conquered Iran, he wasn't an Ottoman.
I think you're thinking of Mehmed or Suleiman
the one time Laith goes down guile he doesn't focus intrigue,
I’d say to be a conqueror you’d have to fundamentally change the areas you conquered, like after taking North Africa, making it so they see themselves as Tunisians for at least the next half millennia.
Laith Nation historical documentaries when? 🙌🙌🙌
Omg a TH-camr who actually cares about history and literally steps out of his way to check with history. Don't care about the gameplay, I play historic games because I love history. You just got a new sub
Purple Ottoman is low key cursed
We are all history nerds, we don’t matter extra history facts at all. I also stop in the middle of my games to search about random facts
The reason I dont gave title to son because if they become ruler,they will get bonus modifier to fertility, thus they usually breed faster,hence making succession a bit annoying. Plus their grandson tend to marry random people.
anyone noticed he didn't ransom the emperor? that gave me cramps in my heart
Did needs an insert from Ernest P. World about the Ottomans.