Hi Strell, I am following you for quite a few time and I watch almost all of your videos. Regarding the tank bag and saddle bag I have very neutral opinion as I also thik the same way you described. And for pannier also, as it is very hard to find any pannier and its mounting assembly which will go in line with the frame of any sports touring machine unless the company itself provide an option. Not to mention that the touring set up u made in your bike looking flawless because of the neat and clean mounting of the top box. Looks wise this should be the most preferred setup for any body if anyone can manage to tour with light luggage more or less on the plane areas not much of uphill or downhill roads and of course pillion on board. Now for the top box you have mentioned one problem that is of wind interference while riding alone. As per my opinion the second problem would be of balance of the bike if you keep a bit of heavy stuff in your top box. While the pillion is on board the CG of the whole setup itself sits a bit backwards from the position where it should be. Now as the top box is attached at the furthest end of the bike and high up, keeping heavy stuff in that will again push the CG further back and pull high up. The affect of which can be felt very much while doing steep uphill/downhill. I have a R3 which is also a sports tourer and I just experienced the fact during my Darjeeling tour with my pillion. The whole thing is related to sports tourer bike only*.
Perfect enthusiast, gud review bro😊👌🏻 In 2010 I bought zmr fed up vth indian make's after sale's service network, so again I bought fz in 2011 I loved it but not satisfied vth it's performance for long rides so bought cbr250r in 2013 nd there I stopped buying bike's for past 7 years (2013-20) now my 250r clocked 1,20,000km's it's time to upgrade from 250cc beast I lived vth to 650cc categories for long rides to explore all over india nd my personal choice is cbr650r I like only sports touring bike's but little confused, so kindly make a comparison video between cb650r nd cbr650r ur review vll be useful for many of Ur viewer's ✌🏻‼️
I've the 2019 Z900 and have fitted the smaller type of hard panniers 20L in size and are just below seat height. Found them to be great and do not interfere with riding style. They are the H&B C-bow pannier racks designed for sports and naked bikes (bit expensive though). However if I want to tour, I use the larger 30L saddle bags and 35L seat bag.
CBR650 looks extremely good now with that visor upgrade! AN Akra Exhaust would be a better add-on later as it has a soft n sweet note and not too loud like Austin or Leo Vince.
Great video Strell. For single rider mode, have you tried reversing the direction of the top box? Meaning, the aerodynamic back now faces the front side (driving direction). This might help single riders reduce wind resistance.
I have a top box on cb300r, it really helps in both touring and daily commute (putting my laptop bag so that my shoulder is free). However as Strell mentioned, i too feel cross winds are more difficult (I primarily ride solo). But usually you can understand how the top box is pulling the bike and adjust your body to it in crosswind situations, as the way the topbox affects the bike is constant.
Going by aerodynamics, the lid of the top box should be in line with the taillight and a tad below the pillion seat, the stay should be designed thus. The redesigned taillight and turn indicators may be housed on the top box itself. This will minimize the drag even when riding alone
Great video, very detailed. I have a cb650f and I'm dressing out for a cross-country trip here in Thailand. This video helped me decide on which luggage pannier tank bag and top box to get. Which mic are you using to make this video and how is it connected to your camera? The sound is great. Thank you
For solo riding tail bags are also a good option. I personally feel tail bag and tank bags would be the best for sports touring. For a sports bike putting on a saddle bag is bit difficult.
I own a bullet 350. Installed a luggage career on it. Carries a simple soft bag secured to it with bunjee cords . The career also usefull to carry grocery store gooddies too😉
Just a denim backpack with 2 or 3 sections, im done.. that's more than enough for my luggage while long rides (shirts, phant, snacks & MRE'S, rain dress, 2 set of chargers, power bank, electronic gadgets and other important stuffs). i put the bag on by back with tight fit, at the same time entire weight rested on the empty space between the pillion and front seat. yamaha r3 have some nice space between two seats. important docs related to bike will always be kept under pillion seat.. that's my luggage carrying style for long rides. my pillion also comfortable with this kinda setup.
Good Video 👌....Will help bikers to realise about some aerodynamic aspects that should be taken care of, when modifying the motorcycles for touring...👍
Hi, I go for long rides twice yearly and I actually use my backpack as luggage and tank bag. I drive Dominar 400 bike and planning to either go for top box or tail bag. What do you prefer?
I don't use top box but I have this mount of top box, on which I tie up my bags but I feel when the luggage is heavy it makes an issue while cornering to like manoeuvre on its own.
I ride a CB300R. I have installed a top rack and I am uaing a Viaterra tailbag instead of a top box. While touring with pillion, I place one back pack on top of the tailbag and tie it with Grandpitstop luggage strap.
I know this video is old but I put a 56l givi top case on my CBR650F and it's the best decision i made for it. I also have the soft saddlebags from Nelson rigg but the top case is the one I use most.
Ohh.. we love u for this type of analysis and clarification from ur end, well justified needless to say! We do have a BMW 310 GS and we have always tried trips with saddle bags which obviously never created an issue in the aerodynamics of the bike but recently we were shooting at the idea of top panier box for the locking security u mentioned as those r very useful in one day rides and parking it outside! This video just gave us a good confidence and we r now left to choose a proper high capacity top box, anything u recommend wud be extremely helpful. As always, showed love in the form of likes and comments 😁 and just love to see ur machine and listen to u 🤘
Strell as always wonderful video. I have interceptor 650 and i am using saddle bags. Have plans for tank bag but not sure if it will fiddle with FI system or is it safe for tank like scratches and all.
I am a single rider and for 3 to 5 day ride I prefer a bagpack, works great for me. I do need to manage the luggage with keeping it simple no camping or other luggage. I don't have any specific biking backpack its just AT has good luggage capacity works for me. Saddles.....well never got used to them as for tankbag never needed but are better than saddles in my experience.
A tail bag works best for me. They can be fitted tightly on any bike and model and provides more luggage area and installing them doesn't require any installation of bars or plates on the back. Any good brand like viaterra is enough.
Re Himalayan te front athra valuthalla as compared to other adventure bike Appo paniers vakkanath mandatharam aano machane 🤔 I am planning to buy paniers Need suggestions bro ✌🏻
I used to use cramster saddle bags for my 2-3 days trip on my Iron 883. Even though it was utilitarian it kills the look of bike . So bought a Kuryakyn Ultra toring bag. But it cost me a bomb 😫. It was not that good either. Now a days what I really feel good is to take a 60L back pack from decathlon and use waterproof cover & tie it with bungee chod. It's good to go. It's multi-purpose too 😃. Paisa vasool
Good one , if you ride with pillion go for top box or else it's drag when you cruise around 110 above . And also the plastic top box starts to rattle and are of risk after using of 3 to 4 months of ride . The base plate and the connection top box hole gets rubbed and the bike becomes big and the connection between both becomes loose . So with aluminium top box this won't happen cause of metal plate and metal holder .
For a sports tourer, top box spoils the look :( saddlebag n tank na would have looked better'. There are saddlebags which wouldn't obstruct pillion leg position I believe
@strell Ningal parayunath onnum Sathyam paranja kelkan pattiyila because I was just admiring the beauty of the bike.... Looks awesome with the new wind screen
Could anybody let me know if it's advisable to have 3 sets of clothes and a jacket shoe and other stuff for a 3 day ride in this top box ? Upto what limit will my balance remain unaffected. I ride a classic 350...
In my bike, I use a tail bag with a top box. The tail bag fills the gap between me and the top box, also it doesn't extend more than the bike, so I don't need to be extra cautious like saddle box or bag. I don't use top box while I don't have any tail bag or pillion.
Hello there, why don't you give Dirtsack Gypsy a try, Rynox has also come up with similar hybrid luggage carrier. It sits on the rear seat and the sides of the bag line up along with rider's legs so not much of air drag. They can carry pretty good luggage for good 7 days. I think that is good enough for most seasoned riders also.
@@nandusvijayan8583 Gixxer sf 250 performance is similar to cbr250r.. i would recommend this bike for long touring for starters as cbr250r sales stopped by Honda.
Before you ask, BS6 Himalayan, Classic 350 reviews on the way 😊
i'm expecting adventure 390
Adventure 390 ???
I am waiting 😂😍😍😍
Where rr310 at.?
We are waiting for KTM Adventure 390❤️
I was so engrossed in the beauty of this machine that I didn't even hear what strell was saying. Had to re-watch it. 😅
Clearly explained....super bro🥰🥰🥰
Love from TAMILNADU
Me: 😘
Strell: aerodynamics aanu sare ivante main😜
அட்ரா அட்ரா மாப்ள ஸ்ட்ரெல்லு.. ஊ ஊ..
Hi Strell, I am following you for quite a few time and I watch almost all of your videos. Regarding the tank bag and saddle bag I have very neutral opinion as I also thik the same way you described. And for pannier also, as it is very hard to find any pannier and its mounting assembly which will go in line with the frame of any sports touring machine unless the company itself provide an option. Not to mention that the touring set up u made in your bike looking flawless because of the neat and clean mounting of the top box. Looks wise this should be the most preferred setup for any body if anyone can manage to tour with light luggage more or less on the plane areas not much of uphill or downhill roads and of course pillion on board. Now for the top box you have mentioned one problem that is of wind interference while riding alone. As per my opinion the second problem would be of balance of the bike if you keep a bit of heavy stuff in your top box. While the pillion is on board the CG of the whole setup itself sits a bit backwards from the position where it should be. Now as the top box is attached at the furthest end of the bike and high up, keeping heavy stuff in that will again push the CG further back and pull high up. The affect of which can be felt very much while doing steep uphill/downhill. I have a R3 which is also a sports tourer and I just experienced the fact during my Darjeeling tour with my pillion.
The whole thing is related to sports tourer bike only*.
Thanks for sharing your experience :)
Thank you! I was deciding between using a top box and saddle bag when riding alone and this answered it 😊
Perfect enthusiast, gud review bro😊👌🏻
In 2010 I bought zmr fed up vth indian make's after sale's service network, so again I bought fz in 2011 I loved it but not satisfied vth it's performance for long rides so bought cbr250r in 2013 nd there I stopped buying bike's for past 7 years (2013-20) now my 250r clocked 1,20,000km's it's time to upgrade from 250cc beast I lived vth to 650cc categories for long rides to explore all over india nd my personal choice is cbr650r I like only sports touring bike's but little confused, so kindly make a comparison video between cb650r nd cbr650r ur review vll be useful for many of Ur viewer's ✌🏻‼️
Thank you very much for the review. Decided to go with only the rear rack
Strell ,Lotz of love from Kerala , you are doing great job
I've the 2019 Z900 and have fitted the smaller type of hard panniers 20L in size and are just below seat height. Found them to be great and do not interfere with riding style. They are the H&B C-bow pannier racks designed for sports and naked bikes (bit expensive though). However if I want to tour, I use the larger 30L saddle bags and 35L seat bag.
Amazing Man! Simply amazing. Very useful resource.
സുലൈമാന് : ഓഹോ engek englishilum endallo pidi
English aanu sir ivante main😜
CBR650 looks extremely good now with that visor upgrade! AN Akra Exhaust would be a better add-on later as it has a soft n sweet note and not too loud like Austin or Leo Vince.
Damn, I was looking for this topic🔥🔥🔥
Strell ve like : "Njan maanath kandeda mwonoosee" 😂😂
Wonderful......as always...
Great video Strell.
For single rider mode, have you tried reversing the direction of the top box? Meaning, the aerodynamic back now faces the front side (driving direction).
This might help single riders reduce wind resistance.
I have a top box on cb300r, it really helps in both touring and daily commute (putting my laptop bag so that my shoulder is free). However as Strell mentioned, i too feel cross winds are more difficult (I primarily ride solo). But usually you can understand how the top box is pulling the bike and adjust your body to it in crosswind situations, as the way the topbox affects the bike is constant.
bro , does it affect the top speed, and is having TOP BOX affects your solo riding like a lot? or is it manageble?
@@tahapathann61 I have a givi v56 on my cbr650f and I can't really tell its there to be honest.
Can u tell the top box model that u r using on ur cb300r ? Will b really helpful thank you 🙂
Thank You so much for telling your top box experience especially with a CB300R ❤
Awesome thanks for making this video
Going by aerodynamics, the lid of the top box should be in line with the taillight and a tad below the pillion seat, the stay should be designed thus. The redesigned taillight and turn indicators may be housed on the top box itself. This will minimize the drag even when riding alone
I bought a side box of studds for my avenger 220 street & did a Thrissur to Ooty yesterday. I really loved the trip with my pillion
Friend: what's in this video??
Me: it's Strell
I really would've never watched this video if it wasn't Strell's
Great video, very detailed. I have a cb650f and I'm dressing out for a cross-country trip here in Thailand. This video helped me decide on which luggage pannier tank bag and top box to get. Which mic are you using to make this video and how is it connected to your camera? The sound is great. Thank you
Keep going bro
Very good content
Thanks for the info man 👍🏻
For solo riding tail bags are also a good option. I personally feel tail bag and tank bags would be the best for sports touring. For a sports bike putting on a saddle bag is bit difficult.
I'm in love with your 650
Ur video quality is awesome....
I own a bullet 350. Installed a luggage career on it. Carries a simple soft bag secured to it with bunjee cords . The career also usefull to carry grocery store gooddies too😉
Just a denim backpack with 2 or 3 sections, im done.. that's more than enough for my luggage while long rides (shirts, phant, snacks & MRE'S, rain dress, 2 set of chargers, power bank, electronic gadgets and other important stuffs). i put the bag on by back with tight fit, at the same time entire weight rested on the empty space between the pillion and front seat. yamaha r3 have some nice space between two seats.
important docs related to bike will always be kept under pillion seat..
that's my luggage carrying style for long rides. my pillion also comfortable with this kinda setup.
Kind of unfair...spending several lacs on imported machine but being uncle scrooge when buying from Indian MSME made luggage bags 😏
@@Delta3068 ur comment sounds weird
The idea is good. I have tried it for a few rides too. But having no luggage tied to rider or pillion is the most relaxing and safest way of riding :)
Ajith Kumar a pillon on r3🤢
@@blesonthomas i would say pillion comfort is good enough compared to r15v3 and ktm's.
Video aside. Thats one gorgeous looking bike!
As always Great Content
Me:- Activa 110
Good Video 👌....Will help bikers to realise about some aerodynamic aspects that should be taken care of, when modifying the motorcycles for touring...👍
Very useful video bro...😀
Thanks for the information. Strell bro, തങ്ങളുടെ വിഡിയോയിൽ എന്തെങ്കിലും ഒരു ടിപ്സ് കിട്ടും. 👍👍👍
Strell bro what about luggage management in an r15 v3. As it is not a tourer bike this top tank helps ?
The only reason I'll buy CBR 650R is because whenever I watch Strell, it just rejuvenates my love for it
Hi, I go for long rides twice yearly and I actually use my backpack as luggage and tank bag. I drive Dominar 400 bike and planning to either go for top box or tail bag. What do you prefer?
Very informative.
I don't use top box but I have this mount of top box, on which I tie up my bags but I feel when the luggage is heavy it makes an issue while cornering to like manoeuvre on its own.
please do a review about the riding gears . branded unbranded its safety quality
I think he had done a vlog on that
I ride a CB300R. I have installed a top rack and I am uaing a Viaterra tailbag instead of a top box. While touring with pillion, I place one back pack on top of the tailbag and tie it with Grandpitstop luggage strap.
ತುಂಬಾ ಒಳ್ಳೆ ವಿಡಿಯೋ ಬ್ರದರ್.. Continue ಮಾಡಿ 👍
Hey Strell, are there any twin cylinders in India that come close to the refinement levels of an inline four like your 650r?
I know this video is old but I put a 56l givi top case on my CBR650F and it's the best decision i made for it. I also have the soft saddlebags from Nelson rigg but the top case is the one I use most.
Ohh.. we love u for this type of analysis and clarification from ur end, well justified needless to say! We do have a BMW 310 GS and we have always tried trips with saddle bags which obviously never created an issue in the aerodynamics of the bike but recently we were shooting at the idea of top panier box for the locking security u mentioned as those r very useful in one day rides and parking it outside! This video just gave us a good confidence and we r now left to choose a proper high capacity top box, anything u recommend wud be extremely helpful.
As always, showed love in the form of likes and comments 😁 and just love to see ur machine and listen to u 🤘
Strell as always wonderful video. I have interceptor 650 and i am using saddle bags. Have plans for tank bag but not sure if it will fiddle with FI system or is it safe for tank like scratches and all.
I had the FI problem with GT650, didn't occur with interceptor. You can place a soft cloth under the tank bag to prevent the scratches.
I am a single rider and for 3 to 5 day ride I prefer a bagpack, works great for me. I do need to manage the luggage with keeping it simple no camping or other luggage. I don't have any specific biking backpack its just AT has good luggage capacity works for me. Saddles.....well never got used to them as for tankbag never needed but are better than saddles in my experience.
Any suggestions for magnetic tank bag
Broooo Love You♥️
Cool video! where can I find that luggage setup?
Nice
Hey, do you think the saddlebags are uncomfortable for the passenger?
Brother,Which engine is best for normal bikes. Semi/synthetic... For example:- unicorn
Strell 1:What about the extra fuelcan on a motorcycle
2:which place the airodinamic check?
Answer please
Strell machane, Himalayan or mojo ethinte pillion seat aanu comfortable. Bcz , ente pillion_u back pain ullathaanu
Bro, am awaiting for your review on the Givi Top Box. You have been using it from past year or more.
Which tank bag do you use bro?
What kind of lugage system suits for ns 200
Any suspensn modification u can suggest for making offroad compatible
390 adv pls
Bro.... Waiting for your take on 390 adventure. Do it ASAP plzzz
I want a video on this bike
A tail bag works best for me. They can be fitted tightly on any bike and model and provides more luggage area and installing them doesn't require any installation of bars or plates on the back. Any good brand like viaterra is enough.
Bro, best tank bag for honda CBR 250R...
my personal suggestion is using saddle, bunje cords along with tank bag.
I own duke390, and this set up has no issues so far.
Strell! Go for the rr310 review bs6 version. I would like to see your views.
Re Himalayan te front athra valuthalla as compared to other adventure bike
Appo paniers vakkanath mandatharam aano machane 🤔
I am planning to buy paniers
Need suggestions bro ✌🏻
I used to use cramster saddle bags for my 2-3 days trip on my Iron 883. Even though it was utilitarian it kills the look of bike . So bought a Kuryakyn Ultra toring bag. But it cost me a bomb 😫. It was not that good either. Now a days what I really feel good is to take a 60L back pack from decathlon and use waterproof cover & tie it with bungee chod. It's good to go. It's multi-purpose too 😃. Paisa vasool
chetta do uk any good second hand retailers for bikes in bangalore
Good one , if you ride with pillion go for top box or else it's drag when you cruise around 110 above . And also the plastic top box starts to rattle and are of risk after using of 3 to 4 months of ride . The base plate and the connection top box hole gets rubbed and the bike becomes big and the connection between both becomes loose . So with aluminium top box this won't happen cause of metal plate and metal holder .
so I hve a Duke 390 shud I go for top box or saddle bags ,I don't tour a lot . @strell
Please make a vedeo on how to ride, posture and tips for riding a sport bike for beginers
For a sports tourer, top box spoils the look :( saddlebag n tank na would have looked better'. There are saddlebags which wouldn't obstruct pillion leg position I believe
Which tank r u using bro..?
Bro, is the cross wind problem with the top box only during high speeds? I mean over 90 kmph?
For me, the motorcycle shows a slight pull to one side when there are huge cross winds. Otherwise 120kmph is smooth with this setup.
@strell Ningal parayunath onnum Sathyam paranja kelkan pattiyila because I was just admiring the beauty of the bike.... Looks awesome with the new wind screen
How do you store your helmet on tour?
Could anybody let me know if it's advisable to have 3 sets of clothes and a jacket shoe and other stuff for a 3 day ride in this top box ? Upto what limit will my balance remain unaffected.
I ride a classic 350...
In my bike, I use a tail bag with a top box. The tail bag fills the gap between me and the top box, also it doesn't extend more than the bike, so I don't need to be extra cautious like saddle box or bag. I don't use top box while I don't have any tail bag or pillion.
Bro..Gt650il edu vekkanam ennu onnu parayamo...pls
Yeppa strell.. When are you gonna review rr310 bs6??
What do you do with top box in your day to day office drives is it removable or permanently fixed
I dont use it daily. Its only for my touring purpose. Its removable.
@@iamstrell 😇✌️
Bro have seen you cruising on the Bangalore chikmangalore highway today😍 destination?
Hey what bike is this?
How to carry laptop bro ?
@Strell please do a review of bs6 Duke 250
where to buy it?
Hello there, why don't you give Dirtsack Gypsy a try, Rynox has also come up with similar hybrid luggage carrier. It sits on the rear seat and the sides of the bag line up along with rider's legs so not much of air drag. They can carry pretty good luggage for good 7 days. I think that is good enough for most seasoned riders also.
I am 5'7" without shoe.... is my height sufficient to ride cbr650r?
i use a dio for riding and no worry about luggage
Can there be a Malayalam version of this?
Bro the company has stopped cbr 650r model.i want the bike bro and y they stopped the production bro
Poli sathanum 👌
Strell macha instell njn question ittin. Ash33k ann id oru cheriya doubt ann oru reply pls.
Bro njan rc 200 il with chunk machan eth engane luggage carry cheyyam please reply tharane🙏🙏🙏🙏
Bro any launch update about aprilia rs 150
I have heard side boxes might ruin your subframe in case of fall.
In case of a fall, that can happen. And there is chance that the rider's or pillion's leg getting stuck with the boxes during a fall.
@@iamstrell thanks alot for reply 👏🎉
You havnt mentioned tail bags
Bro Malayalathil cheyy bro pinna top box inteyum Tank bag inteyum link
Strell machaaa😍😘
Strell bro I'm confused bw RS 200 nd Gixxer sf250
What's ur opinion
rs
Gixxer 250 ofcourse... Better engine with more comfortable cruise speeds
Consider SF250 if you want to tour a lot. Otherwise both are good for city use. It's just a matter of choosing the one based on liking.
@@iamstrell I'll be doing a lot of tours
And was more inclined towards Gixxer
Thanks STRELL bro
@@nandusvijayan8583 Gixxer sf 250 performance is similar to cbr250r.. i would recommend this bike for long touring for starters as cbr250r sales stopped by Honda.