I love how she's introduced as someone who takes care of Seele because if Seele dies, she also dies but now she literally just wants to protecc her at all cost.
You might want to cover Kevin Kaslana too, he is a very well written char that really bothers your mind whether he's actually a villian or not. The dude is very relatable and have a very tragic life which eventually lead him into the way he is now, war has done him into the person he is now. And his true goal is just not only relatable but really makes you wonder if hes really the savior of humanity or not
Long story short: He's become a war veteran who developed this sort of god complex, thinking that the only way to win the war against honkai is through great sacrifice, and by sacrifice I mean committing acts of genocide comparable to that of the third Reich, Soviet Union, and Imperial Japan combined.
@@rejectrealism bland and boring? Well that's to be expected when you're a soldier and had to fight a war in your teenage years, you get disillusioned by your old mindset and become a bit more nihilistic. And as time goes by your world view becomes more negative and you develop a bit of depression.
@@gamedominatorxennongdm7956 yeah, to follow up on this, Kevin's entire premise is that he's never been personally invested in the cause he's fighting for, that the mantra of 'defeat the honkai at any cost' comes from him taking up the mantle that his friends believed in, perhaps to make sense of their loss. At this point, he's basically in a massive sunk-cost fallacy - 'I've sacrificed so much already, and deviating from this course would 'invalidate' the sacrifices of my long-gone friends, so what's one more city of strangers compared to them, etc'. I think there's also a case to be made that he can be seen as a foil to Fu Hua, who's also a PE character carrying out a mission because she simply sees it as her duty, but who's locked away the memories of her losses using Fenghuang Down to allow her to focus on her assigned mission instead of letting the pain of those losses drive her like Kevin.
what really confuses me about veliona is the fact that seele kind of. doesnt acknowledge her existence. like as far as i'm aware she never openly told anyone that there's a dark seele, and when she lets veli be in charge she also doesn't give anyone a heads up that this is the other one. why???
Yep, as Robert said it: Seele considers Veliona as an alternate version of herselfe, hence the name "other me". Not to mention Veliona later agreeing to this mentality by requesting to be called Seele alse. Classic two sides of the same coin thing.
She not only acknowledges veliona but want to introduce her friends and want that they'll be friends with her as well. Seele always says they are the same as in they are half that complete seele as a being so both of them are seele.
If she does, that would be cool. "Hey Seele, can you revive Himeko for us?" "I- I guess I can..." "Hey Seele, can you kill Otto for us?" "WITH PLEASURE."
@@joannamysluk8623 it was revealed that even with the power of HOD it can't bring someone back. Otto has many clones and can transfer his mind so even if they use HoD power he will be hard to kill Sorry for ruining your dreams
@@Dorimefasolatedo in the manga I remember that sirin revived her mother but she didn't know what is a soul so she could never revive her mom just recreated the body so i think if seele became the herrscher of death most likely it will be veliona who is posession of the power because veliona know pretty much about her own powers even could use the power of the 6th divine key and maybe resonate with the death herrscher core with the help of seele
Veliona is a tsun, refuses to acknowledge how much she cares for Seele, would protect her when Seele is too weak to. She's always worried about her, a bit obsessive actually, and I liked how she scolded Seele that giving her the full control can mean that Seele might never wake up, she thinks she's a monster and got surprised when Seele treated her as the same She's the best altered ego ever
Hey I played the new chapter and it seems veliona got defeated by the puppet then disappeared. Then the next stage you get to play as seele but her ult only activate but she cannot call upon veliona and I read the chapter story line and it seems veliona actually disappeared Plus the event called solo stage is kind of odd And the new seele valk the NYX I think is actually veliona separated from seele's body My theory is Somehow the puppet who defeated veliona found a way to separate veliona from seele and put veliona on a puppets body I mean it would be strange why herscherr of death was not seele but a look a like of seele I actually look at all the herscherr list and that's what I found out
WARNING: There are spoilers in this comment so read at your own risk of getting spoiled . . . . . . Yosh to clarify, the puppets are tempting Veliona to join their side, hence them leaving Seele alone after passing out due to using her SN powers. Second, Nyx is Veliona having full control of Seele’s body, as stated on the Nyx character interview with the people who made her battlesuit. And third, it’s probably MHY reusing assets, so the PE HoD looks like Seele lul, but that might be just me o/
Spoiler warning To clarify, Velonia was kind of having an existensial crisis after going to the theater. She thinks Seele doesn’t need her, because of what the puppets say, so she didn’t talk to seele, or even help her out. Velonia eventually got over it and start talking to Seele again.
@@PotatoAlmanac its only skill name. Not character. And only on global server. In Chinese skill use alter ego or dark form. In story never use name Veliona. Only Seele and "Seele". Not Saule or Veliona.
@@CanCanbI4 At the end of the day "Veliona" is still from an official source, and is used to refer to the character, example is Stygian Nymph's information. "...her inner persona Veliona excels in mauling tougher enemies..." I'm aware that this isn't the case for CN, and it's a possibility that "Veliona" was created to be used as localization for EN considering the meaning behind the world itself.
@@PotatoAlmanac Its source only skill's name. I never see when Seele call Saule. Because its only skill. In new chapter Dark Seele want use her name as Seele.
Why do I think cocolia's orphanage make a lot of super human First broya, she can be controlled and stop Herscher's movements, other things prob you already know. Then we have seele which has a special stigma and is very similar to the herscher of dead logo and the stigma has its own persona. Then in elysian realms we know that humans combined with honkai cells will have the same strength as herscher and we know that the twins have the same tail and horns as honkai which should have the possibility of modified cells. But still this is just teory, some of them might be wrong. CMIIW
@ՇԼყ Seelecon so we can speculate that seele will become a herrscher in the future somehow The most likely way is k423 giving her the gem of serenity Or the stigma turned into a core
Additional spoilers below read at your own risk: Yes, Veliona is a Herrscher, but not in the way you think, she's the Herrscher of Death from the Previous Era iirc Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong
Veliona is just a fan name when global players don’t know what to call her (in game she is called “Seele?”). That is why they decided to take a skill name and name it to Seele. Check you fact, Veliona will never be a official name!
It's true the name "Veliona" isn't found anywhere but on global, provided it's very unlikely the players thought of that name before Mihoyo did considering the meaning behind the word itself, still I'm not sure why that name found on global translation that is from Mihoyo is considered a "fan-name", if a "fan-name" is put into the game by the devs, doesn't that make the name "official"? Regardless of what status the name is, it's still widely used to easily distinguish between the two personas. Whether the name is considered "official" or not doesn't really matter as long as it's used as an efficient means of communications.
I love how she's introduced as someone who takes care of Seele because if Seele dies, she also dies but now she literally just wants to protecc her at all cost.
Yeah... she has Seele dakimakuras on her bed
Veliona best elter ego ever, she don't want hurt seele, she's kind and adorable, a possible tsundere yandere 😂
I think it is explained, why Veliona doesn't hurt Seele. If Seele's body hurt, so also Veliona's or even death.
Hmm I think yandere doesn't suit her at all. She just understands *violence.* (not that I hate her or anything)
@@teriri727 Still very yandere though.
best evil posessing thing ever
True
You might want to cover Kevin Kaslana too, he is a very well written char that really bothers your mind whether he's actually a villian or not.
The dude is very relatable and have a very tragic life which eventually lead him into the way he is now, war has done him into the person he is now. And his true goal is just not only relatable but really makes you wonder if hes really the savior of humanity or not
Right! Thanks for the suggestion,.
Long story short: He's become a war veteran who developed this sort of god complex, thinking that the only way to win the war against honkai is through great sacrifice, and by sacrifice I mean committing acts of genocide comparable to that of the third Reich, Soviet Union, and Imperial Japan combined.
No I think plotting to blow up a whole city makes you a villain. Also am I the only one who thinks that he's really bland and boring character?
@@rejectrealism bland and boring? Well that's to be expected when you're a soldier and had to fight a war in your teenage years, you get disillusioned by your old mindset and become a bit more nihilistic. And as time goes by your world view becomes more negative and you develop a bit of depression.
@@gamedominatorxennongdm7956 yeah, to follow up on this, Kevin's entire premise is that he's never been personally invested in the cause he's fighting for, that the mantra of 'defeat the honkai at any cost' comes from him taking up the mantle that his friends believed in, perhaps to make sense of their loss.
At this point, he's basically in a massive sunk-cost fallacy - 'I've sacrificed so much already, and deviating from this course would 'invalidate' the sacrifices of my long-gone friends, so what's one more city of strangers compared to them, etc'.
I think there's also a case to be made that he can be seen as a foil to Fu Hua, who's also a PE character carrying out a mission because she simply sees it as her duty, but who's locked away the memories of her losses using Fenghuang Down to allow her to focus on her assigned mission instead of letting the pain of those losses drive her like Kevin.
what really confuses me about veliona is the fact that seele kind of. doesnt acknowledge her existence. like as far as i'm aware she never openly told anyone that there's a dark seele, and when she lets veli be in charge she also doesn't give anyone a heads up that this is the other one. why???
Yep, as Robert said it: Seele considers Veliona as an alternate version of herselfe, hence the name "other me". Not to mention Veliona later agreeing to this mentality by requesting to be called Seele alse.
Classic two sides of the same coin thing.
She not only acknowledges veliona but want to introduce her friends and want that they'll be friends with her as well. Seele always says they are the same as in they are half that complete seele as a being so both of them are seele.
Basically, veliona is just a self defense mechanism like most separate personalities. also a tsundere.
Still waiting and wondering if Seele will ever become the Herrscher of Death, cause if so - that'd be really cool.
If she does, that would be cool.
"Hey Seele, can you revive Himeko for us?"
"I- I guess I can..."
"Hey Seele, can you kill Otto for us?"
"WITH PLEASURE."
@@joannamysluk8623 it was revealed that even with the power of HOD it can't bring someone back.
Otto has many clones and can transfer his mind so even if they use HoD power he will be hard to kill
Sorry for ruining your dreams
@@Dorimefasolatedo in the manga I remember that sirin revived her mother but she didn't know what is a soul so she could never revive her mom just recreated the body so i think if seele became the herrscher of death most likely it will be veliona who is posession of the power because veliona know pretty much about her own powers even could use the power of the 6th divine key and maybe resonate with the death herrscher core with the help of seele
@@joannamysluk8623 HoD means that Veliona would get a body. Hod creates bodies, not souls.
Announcement: Seele is now Herrscher of Rebirth
Veliona is a tsun, refuses to acknowledge how much she cares for Seele, would protect her when Seele is too weak to. She's always worried about her, a bit obsessive actually, and I liked how she scolded Seele that giving her the full control can mean that Seele might never wake up, she thinks she's a monster and got surprised when Seele treated her as the same
She's the best altered ego ever
This channel is underrated
if i were to describe seele’s other her, she is a tsuntsun and a bit of a yandere.
never know stigmata could make another personality
depending on what type of stigma a person has, legendary stigmas can store personalities and memories
I think It's because She has been left alone in The Sea of Quanta for a long time
@@MoskusMoskiferus1611 veliona appeared before them getting trapped in the sea
PE HoD, HoC and Kaslana stigmatas all have their own consciousness
Nice video, it’s short, straightforward and not that opinionated and focuses more on facts based on a reliable source ☺️
i might start saving bc its most likely seele will become the herrecher of death plus seele is one of my favorite characters so im just going to wait
Veliona is more of Seele's guardian devil I'd say
Seele soon to be Herrscher of Death of Current Era.
veliona is simping for seele
Its very funny when you think about the fact that her name is also the german word for Soul
Hey I played the new chapter and it seems veliona got defeated by the puppet then disappeared.
Then the next stage you get to play as seele but her ult only activate but she cannot call upon veliona and I read the chapter story line and it seems veliona actually disappeared
Plus the event
called solo stage is kind of odd
And the new seele valk the NYX I think is actually veliona separated from seele's body
My theory is
Somehow the puppet who defeated veliona found a way to separate veliona from seele and put veliona on a puppets body
I mean it would be strange why herscherr of death was not seele but a look a like of seele
I actually look at all the herscherr list and that's what I found out
That's very interesting. Can't wait the find out more.
WARNING: There are spoilers in this comment so read at your own risk of getting spoiled
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Yosh to clarify, the puppets are tempting Veliona to join their side, hence them leaving Seele alone after passing out due to using her SN powers.
Second, Nyx is Veliona having full control of Seele’s body, as stated on the Nyx character interview with the people who made her battlesuit.
And third, it’s probably MHY reusing assets, so the PE HoD looks like Seele lul, but that might be just me o/
Spoiler warning
To clarify, Velonia was kind of having an existensial crisis after going to the theater. She thinks Seele doesn’t need her, because of what the puppets say, so she didn’t talk to seele, or even help her out. Velonia eventually got over it and start talking to Seele again.
OMG this has sooo many meanings XD
Seele and Seele are already fused, they are one and the same, simply with a different personalities... It's very difrent from Mei situation
kinda hate knowing that she'll be gone soon
Dark Seele has one name. Seele.
Veliona fan name. Not official.
The name "Veliona" is official and can be found on skill descriptions of Swallowtail Phantasm and Stygian Nymph.
Though the name itself hasn't actually been acknowledged by characters in the story.
@@PotatoAlmanac its only skill name. Not character.
And only on global server.
In Chinese skill use alter ego or dark form.
In story never use name Veliona.
Only Seele and "Seele". Not Saule or Veliona.
@@CanCanbI4 At the end of the day "Veliona" is still from an official source, and is used to refer to the character, example is Stygian Nymph's information.
"...her inner persona Veliona excels in mauling tougher enemies..."
I'm aware that this isn't the case for CN, and it's a possibility that "Veliona" was created to be used as localization for EN considering the meaning behind the world itself.
@@PotatoAlmanac Its source only skill's name.
I never see when Seele call Saule.
Because its only skill.
In new chapter Dark Seele want use her name as Seele.
Why do I think cocolia's orphanage make a lot of super human
First broya, she can be controlled and stop Herscher's movements, other things prob you already know.
Then we have seele which has a special stigma and is very similar to the herscher of dead logo and the stigma has its own persona.
Then in elysian realms we know that humans combined with honkai cells will have the same strength as herscher and we know that the twins have the same tail and horns as honkai which should have the possibility of modified cells.
But still this is just teory, some of them might be wrong. CMIIW
i just realized that the vodka twins are basically like mantis soldiers, superhumans with honkai beast genes infused
seele want to call "her", seele. so i will call her "seele" too
"Guardian Reaper" 🤣🤣🤣
Veliona is love , veliona y life
Honkai star rail is possibly the closest alternate universe to hi3 they even have cocolia
It Literally has Honkai In the Name.
r u a new hsr player
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im not the unique people that ask "who is veliona?" and i have much teorys
this info is good
i need more help
'friendship'
seele kinda looks like sailor saturn
I think veliona is a herrscher
Spoiler:
In the starchasm nyx trailer one of the herrscher of dominance clones said " you are one of our kind "
@ՇԼყ Seelecon so we can speculate that seele will become a herrscher in the future somehow
The most likely way is k423 giving her the gem of serenity Or the stigma turned into a core
I kinda dont understand the spoil but form what i get seele and veliona used the abyss flower to save bronya
Additional spoilers below read at your own risk:
Yes, Veliona is a Herrscher, but not in the way you think, she's the Herrscher of Death from the Previous Era iirc
Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong
@ՇԼყ Seelecon if what you says is true, then how did she ended up being Seele’s sort of herself?
@ՇԼყ Seelecon and?
Veliona, aka cooler Seele
Can you do all characters explained I want to know their abilities and powers.
can you do one as mei
Currently working on Kevin right now, will consider after finishing him
Guided Rita? I don’t understand.
Who's Veliona?
My wife of course!😁
*OUR*
bruh she’s like 12
It's not the same veliona or selee
It's Spelled Seele (German Pronouncation)
Who is captain
We the players.
The guy who goes broke every update.
@@joannamysluk8623 KEKW
She is my wife
เสียงเพลียเหมือนเดิม -_- XD
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Seeeleeee~
Why everywhere I go, Seele is called Veliona? She is just another Seele inside Seele, global is giving her a wrong identity!
Veliona is just a fan name when global players don’t know what to call her (in game she is called “Seele?”). That is why they decided to take a skill name and name it to Seele. Check you fact, Veliona will never be a official name!
In her skill name, Saule and Veliona are two goddess, Saule is the sun goddess and Veliona is the goddess of death.
It's true the name "Veliona" isn't found anywhere but on global, provided it's very unlikely the players thought of that name before Mihoyo did considering the meaning behind the word itself, still I'm not sure why that name found on global translation that is from Mihoyo is considered a "fan-name", if a "fan-name" is put into the game by the devs, doesn't that make the name "official"? Regardless of what status the name is, it's still widely used to easily distinguish between the two personas. Whether the name is considered "official" or not doesn't really matter as long as it's used as an efficient means of communications.
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Close friendship... Yeah sure