Listen to the start of the song "Textures" by Cynic. So similar to this except made like ten years earlier. By the way his new group Bosnian Rainbows is awesome, see em live.
As much as Omar is the leader of the band, deciding what everyone plays, the Mars Volta have always been a band that use heavy amounts of improvisation, both live and on record. There were several opportunities for Jon Theodore to implant his style all over Omar's compositions, and to me it shows. Also playing is 50% what you're playing and 50% how you play it. So even two drummers playing the same beat can turn out drastically different results. I agree that Jon is the better of the two.
@@slamjackson2137for some reason i didnt get that vibe of hell from this until i realized this song is supposed to go after take the veil when cerpin taxt dies as a bonus track in the japanese released of the album.
@@chefmarv6499 you don't need drugs. Just the orginal story's Tremulants. Is the last book of the Bible Revelation or Revelations? Is it not curious so many artists and even the Simpsons' writers got this "wrong" so many times? 😆 😆 A side note for those who know: "she" is afraid of what they will do to her when they find out. If the Golden Rule pays dividends of just 1 to 50, how badly will she be treated? I would have more putty, but she has hurt so many. My only curiosity is where or not her own will pull a "Caesar/Brutus on her and turn her in, so to speak so as to avoid part of their own fees.
I dont like to compare jon and Pridgen. They are two different drummers with different backround. Personally i like Jon more for the mars volta and thats because Jon played on "de-loused" wich for me is the most complete peace of art ever. I mean it has everything....And i think he is very tasteful with his drumparts. And his style of drumming was/is very personal. Pridgen tends to "craze" out to much. And thats wonderful in its own way.
its a left hand facing you pointing to the left. Usually if someone is facing you and they put their hand out, it is pointing left. This means the hand is directly above the persons head. Subtle but weirdly noticable.
Jon Theodore is indeed GREAT. His greatness isn't in his amount of skill (of which he has plenty). His greatness is in his feel and his technique. The sound of his drumkit, and how he uses it. Pridgen is absolutely great in his own technically skilled, precise way... and he can prolly play anything Jon can play.... But it won't sound like Jon... It won't have that feel.
i just listened this song on weed, dude, gosh... this is great, it's like prophesis, this talks about the 2012 thing, about the humandkind change, WOW... there is a face in the first finger...!! it's sacry and slow, it talks to you... it's says like "beware"... have a god night ;)
Well, not really. I'd say that probably 99% of the album content is written before by Omar. Also, I've heard an interview with him, where he said that they aren't really improvising during the shows - they just "try out" music - how does it sound and what should be on the next album. Check out Citatriz from Scabdates for example - there are some parts that you can hear in Cassandra Gemini, which was composed later, as a whole.
He isn't a "composer" in the same sense of Frank Zappa tho. Composing is more then just plonking counter melodies together, that's what most guitarists do when they write and guitar is their only instrument.
@Hemsom1rojder good point, thodore brings a good feels in the drums, and i missed his style but pridgen was very good too, they are just different, and both very original. D-loused album came out in a very good time,, i can just say that album was what i needed to listen in that moment,
@Hemsom1rojder our views on TMV are identical. i like you, sir. De-loused is indeed the first masterpiece to have been created in my lifetime. (The second is the film 'The Fountain' ;))
@jmmatos23 Thats exactly why the world isnt perfect, if everyone in the world agreed with me then there would be no conflict or unhappiness, we could all just worship a giant statue of jon theodore. I do sociology and politics in college i know what I'm talking about
LpCool19 tremulant, the album before this one has the beginning and ending sing the itsy bitsy spider backwards and I'm guessing that's what they did for this one too.
Shall I spit some wisdom? No. That would have a connotation I think is unfitting for form. There are so many things I could say. 😆 The atom. It vibrates so well. And the frequencies and their interations make shapes that would be easier to understand if you were blind from birth. That is, there is a gift and a curse -- two edges to everything. You see, so yes, you can interpret the world around you well, but only within certain bands. Everything else is limited to you and your mind, through operant conditioning is pleased to interpret things as they do. But had you been blind from birth, you would see a different world completely. Our eyes, because of our sight, have made our brains good at interpreting things in 3D and things flat. But to the lesson in alchemy and how it relates to the double edge. You could teach anyone how to make gold, but there are two very broad groups you would want to avoid teaching this art to. The first and obvious one is the greedy -- from just a little greedy to the upper bounds. The second is those who would give wealth to just any. The former would create issues in easliy undersood ways, while the latter, that "do gooder," that is a well meaning but misguided creature, would damage order which helps maintain upward progress. Mansa Musa as an example created more issues than e solved. As when something holds value and them is made common place, it skews the interpretation of the masses. They then lose control, whether they realize it or not and act more foul. So, a master of that art teaches seldom few and after strict study of them. Otherwise, nothing good is actually accomplished. Judas said to Jesus about the ointment that it should have been sold so that the money could do work for the poor. But if you do not maintain those things from which good is done, they gradually fail, or alternatively, they disappear. A theif will benefit by stealing anything from an item, to words, to ideas, and claiming them as their own. But they see neither the damage they do, nor the payment they've made in exchange for their theft. If they did, they would choose a different path. But then, it's like a security camera facing a would-be stolen object. If it's there, most theives will choose to steal something else. The more cunning will evade detection and steal it anyway, not knowing the consequences of having been seen doing it. Because whether we speak of a hidden camera they did not see, or their thoughts and eyes incriminating them without them knowing the better, the results are the same. And so, limited information meets their mind prior to them commiting to being thief. And so, they choose, out of ignorance, a path that is perhaps tempting, though so long as no one forces them, that free will is complicit in their being binded. What you don't see that "sees" you (really, seeing is just interpretation of one wave form, while touch is interpretation of another wave form, and smell is interpretation of yet another, and hearing, interpretation of another, and the radio, a means of interpretation of yet another wave form, and so on and on) is an impetus for some. Unfortunately, while it keeps them on the straight and narrow, it also shows them as incomplete if say the only reason they do not do certain things is because they know they are being sensed or read like a book. They have value, sure, and much more than a theif, but they are still not tested through themselves to a higher level. They are incomplete. The next level would be in the understanding of why seen or unseen theft is an issue. The difference between, "I dont steal because there is a camera," and, "I don't steal because I understand the waves (this time not sensory, so much) and ripples that the theft will create in damage and slowing of improvement; of impairment of the one stolen from and the subsequent waves and ripples to the secondary, and many tertiary levels. That's all for now, as I've need to imitate Rick from Rick and Morty now.
@pablobostero1280 not knowing nothing is a double negative. You basically just told him/her that they know everything about drumming. Didn't everyone take English in 1st grade???
@LordOfThePracticePad thats cuz you dont luv the mars volta.... its simple the mars volta was omar cedric jon juan adrian marcel and ikey thats it.... tmv died when jon was fired and tp joined the band... i hope deantoni understand omars brain and set the volta again cuz we really need it
There was a time when a rock band tried to make non-rock music, and one scream was heard by all the world... the next comes in a residual noise...just echoes... ... what disappointment...Goliath...
Wow the drum solo isn't even that great; Thomas plays stuff like that in his sleep people. Love Mars Volta, but not a huge fan of Jon. Sorry guys, I know it makes me some kind of Nazi or something, but whatever....
I don't think Jon is "great", he wont go beyond spreading single stroke rolls all over the drum set without even using his feet. He has only impressed me a bit in their concert at he Electric Ballroom, with his performance of Cicatriz ESP. I think anyone could play like Jon.
Thomas Pridgen was real good at flashy, fast playing but Jon Theodore could play in the confinements of a song so much better. He was the better drummer.
@@Goctagon thomas was an interesting change for mars volta's sound they became more chaotic sounding but jon was the backbone of mars volta's earlier albums. Jon played to fit the ambience of the song and sometimes the drums became an ambient noise in sections of songs which is the opposite to thomas flashy style. jon had a deeper sense of the role he played in his drumming where as thomas just wanted to show off for the sake of sounding cool
I set the first 30 seconds of this song as my ringtone alarm clock
8)
injektileur have fun waking up in a panic attack.
@@goodapolloimburningstariv7539 Hell yeahh nice name and pfp
Esta fue la primer canción que escuché de ellos, en preparatoria, fumando marihuana en las afueras del edificio. Aquellos tiempos fueron buenos...
Oh Lord, Oh lord you've made it....
vermin we need to loathe
誰？！どこ？！Who?!Where?! The ambulence! "no pain this time."
Still goes hard.
i havent listened to this song in forever ! it reminds me of good times i have had with my friends and drugs :)
I couldn’t think the name of this song. It had been stuck in my head for a minute. I’m glad I was able to find it. Brings back so many memories.
Jon Theodore is supernaturial musician!
Is this what a sleep paralysis demon's nightmare sounds like? Cos I like it!
this song brings back good memories...set me down a crazy path
Oh lord.. oh lord... you've made it...
You took the veil.
Listen to the start of the song "Textures" by Cynic. So similar to this except made like ten years earlier. By the way his new group Bosnian Rainbows is awesome, see em live.
Thought this immediately upon hearing
both mars volta and cynic have masterful bassists too.
the very best dude...from Mazatlán with love xD
The young seed of Noctourniquet... I guess
yep
I love both drummers, but DAMN. I gotta admit. That actually made me laugh my ass off. Good job.
Makes me sad, brings memories
This song apparently represents Hell.
As much as Omar is the leader of the band, deciding what everyone plays, the Mars Volta have always been a band that use heavy amounts of improvisation, both live and on record. There were several opportunities for Jon Theodore to implant his style all over Omar's compositions, and to me it shows.
Also playing is 50% what you're playing and 50% how you play it. So even two drummers playing the same beat can turn out drastically different results.
I agree that Jon is the better of the two.
I swear, this song makes me imagine how Hell looks like, especially the intro
I get that a lot with The Mars Volta in general, not quite sure how I feel about it honestly lol
When you enter hell after an overdose of some god awful substance
@@slamjackson2137for some reason i didnt get that vibe of hell from this until i realized this song is supposed to go after take the veil when cerpin taxt dies as a bonus track in the japanese released of the album.
@@chefmarv6499 you don't need drugs. Just the orginal story's Tremulants.
Is the last book of the Bible Revelation or Revelations? Is it not curious so many artists and even the Simpsons' writers got this "wrong" so many times? 😆 😆
A side note for those who know: "she" is afraid of what they will do to her when they find out. If the Golden Rule pays dividends of just 1 to 50, how badly will she be treated? I would have more putty, but she has hurt so many.
My only curiosity is where or not her own will pull a "Caesar/Brutus on her and turn her in, so to speak so as to avoid part of their own fees.
strange feeling while listening
drummer is great !
I dont like to compare jon and Pridgen. They are two different drummers with different backround. Personally i like Jon more for the mars volta and thats because Jon played on "de-loused" wich for me is the most complete peace of art ever. I mean it has everything....And i think he is very tasteful with his drumparts. And his style of drumming was/is very personal. Pridgen tends to "craze" out to much. And thats wonderful in its own way.
its a left hand facing you pointing to the left. Usually if someone is facing you and they put their hand out, it is pointing left. This means the hand is directly above the persons head. Subtle but weirdly noticable.
Wtf are you talking about
Jon Theodore is indeed GREAT. His greatness isn't in his amount of skill (of which he has plenty). His greatness is in his feel and his technique. The sound of his drumkit, and how he uses it. Pridgen is absolutely great in his own technically skilled, precise way... and he can prolly play anything Jon can play.... But it won't sound like Jon... It won't have that feel.
nice. never heard this one till now.
i like much moooooreeeee...!!!!! john theorore is amazing.
i just listened this song on weed, dude, gosh... this is great, it's like prophesis, this talks about the 2012 thing, about the humandkind change, WOW... there is a face in the first finger...!! it's sacry and slow, it talks to you... it's says like "beware"... have a god night ;)
Well, not really. I'd say that probably 99% of the album content is written before by Omar.
Also, I've heard an interview with him, where he said that they aren't really improvising during the shows - they just "try out" music - how does it sound and what should be on the next album. Check out Citatriz from Scabdates for example - there are some parts that you can hear in Cassandra Gemini, which was composed later, as a whole.
He isn't a "composer" in the same sense of Frank Zappa tho. Composing is more then just plonking counter melodies together, that's what most guitarists do when they write and guitar is their only instrument.
@Hemsom1rojder good point, thodore brings a good feels in the drums, and i missed his style but pridgen was very good too, they are just different, and both very original. D-loused album came out in a very good time,, i can just say that album was what i needed to listen in that moment,
Omar sounds just like Robert Fripp on this.
I hear it.
Yes, it's true.
omar DEFINITELY took huge inspiration from fripp during the frances the mute era
Listen to At the Drive-in's "Autorelocator"... Cedric does the same Random Muttering at 3:36 in that song...
esa guitarra suena en extremo desoladora!
revihs revihs!! awesome!!
It was at a point and is apparent that The Mars Volta figured out what happened to their suicidal friend they based an album on.
its on UK one =]
sounds kinda like it was sung backwards then played forward, or theres just some crazy effects.
does anyone knows how to get this incredible snare sound ? I look for it since i bought the same snare but i need some help ! Thks, Fabrice.
There both sick ass drummers. Jon has a very unique style and Thomas has a gospel feel to him but yet experimental.
that GSL DVD menu brought me here
Theodore is so much better. And the albums prove that.
very interesting and fresh
Ooh! I likes it!
what album was this released on?
this is the bonus track on deloused in the comatorium
It was a radio only album for any one asking (Correct me if I'm wrong)
@Hemsom1rojder our views on TMV are identical. i like you, sir. De-loused is indeed the first masterpiece to have been created in my lifetime. (The second is the film 'The Fountain' ;))
Tool - Lateralus was produced just a couple of years prior, and whether you like it or not, it's an undisputed masterpiece
@jmmatos23 Thats exactly why the world isnt perfect, if everyone in the world agreed with me then there would be no conflict or unhappiness, we could all just worship a giant statue of jon theodore. I do sociology and politics in college i know what I'm talking about
Amen lol
Master of all that is good and evil
@LpCool19 Listen to the whole album, Frances the Mute.
Making slaves, making slaves... From angels, to dust. It is amusing to me because of how easy it would have been to avoid that fate.
if you look at the bottom of those fingers besides the index finger, they have a weird marking under them. they look like stitches.
more than they'd like to let on
Pull my thread as i walk away.
is this a bonus track on deloused?
Yes, it was. A bonus track on the japanese version :]
i maybe spent 30 seconds looking and it and i hate itunes for not having alot of mars volta
This song scares me
@helloaphant holy shit i thought the exact same thing when i first heard it....
its very similar to Textures.
this reminds me of De Facto
dubby
Does anyone know if Pridgen and TMV really separated.
This is just a De Facto song disguised as a Volta track!
Seriously you have to listen to this smoked on! light a joint play TMV and listen carefully... honest.
Even the way both songs "fade in"
Do they play this live ever????
haha. I wouldnt know, but i got myself one =D
hahahaha hell yeah!!!
I haven't heard or seen anyone play the way Theodore played with TMV even if Omar is still telling everyone what to play. Weird.
lol wat kind weed is that?
@etmadness1 true that. I still think pridgen's got talent.
isnt it just a mic very off center in front of the snare amp?
mijubo no it's actually an entire song full of instruments
...What is the whole song about? O.e...is he even singing? Seriously I can't understand what the guy is saying? Has a nice beat to it.
LpCool19 tremulant, the album before this one has the beginning and ending sing the itsy bitsy spider backwards and I'm guessing that's what they did for this one too.
Antonio Armendariz makes sense considering Tira Me A Las Arañas.
its very cryptic
Shall I spit some wisdom? No. That would have a connotation I think is unfitting for form.
There are so many things I could say. 😆
The atom. It vibrates so well. And the frequencies and their interations make shapes that would be easier to understand if you were blind from birth. That is, there is a gift and a curse -- two edges to everything. You see, so yes, you can interpret the world around you well, but only within certain bands. Everything else is limited to you and your mind, through operant conditioning is pleased to interpret things as they do. But had you been blind from birth, you would see a different world completely. Our eyes, because of our sight, have made our brains good at interpreting things in 3D and things flat.
But to the lesson in alchemy and how it relates to the double edge. You could teach anyone how to make gold, but there are two very broad groups you would want to avoid teaching this art to. The first and obvious one is the greedy -- from just a little greedy to the upper bounds. The second is those who would give wealth to just any. The former would create issues in easliy undersood ways, while the latter, that "do gooder," that is a well meaning but misguided creature, would damage order which helps maintain upward progress. Mansa Musa as an example created more issues than e solved. As when something holds value and them is made common place, it skews the interpretation of the masses. They then lose control, whether they realize it or not and act more foul. So, a master of that art teaches seldom few and after strict study of them. Otherwise, nothing good is actually accomplished.
Judas said to Jesus about the ointment that it should have been sold so that the money could do work for the poor. But if you do not maintain those things from which good is done, they gradually fail, or alternatively, they disappear.
A theif will benefit by stealing anything from an item, to words, to ideas, and claiming them as their own. But they see neither the damage they do, nor the payment they've made in exchange for their theft. If they did, they would choose a different path. But then, it's like a security camera facing a would-be stolen object. If it's there, most theives will choose to steal something else. The more cunning will evade detection and steal it anyway, not knowing the consequences of having been seen doing it. Because whether we speak of a hidden camera they did not see, or their thoughts and eyes incriminating them without them knowing the better, the results are the same. And so, limited information meets their mind prior to them commiting to being thief. And so, they choose, out of ignorance, a path that is perhaps tempting, though so long as no one forces them, that free will is complicit in their being binded.
What you don't see that "sees" you (really, seeing is just interpretation of one wave form, while touch is interpretation of another wave form, and smell is interpretation of yet another, and hearing, interpretation of another, and the radio, a means of interpretation of yet another wave form, and so on and on) is an impetus for some. Unfortunately, while it keeps them on the straight and narrow, it also shows them as incomplete if say the only reason they do not do certain things is because they know they are being sensed or read like a book. They have value, sure, and much more than a theif, but they are still not tested through themselves to a higher level. They are incomplete. The next level would be in the understanding of why seen or unseen theft is an issue. The difference between, "I dont steal because there is a camera," and, "I don't steal because I understand the waves (this time not sensory, so much) and ripples that the theft will create in damage and slowing of improvement; of impairment of the one stolen from and the subsequent waves and ripples to the secondary, and many tertiary levels. That's all for now, as I've need to imitate Rick from Rick and Morty now.
What's the cover from?
I don't hear a drum solo in this song. Also, I guess nobody was ready for Deantoni :)
i got a missing chromosome on Utorrent its the best place to find it
this picture is inaccurate right?
I don't understand
Do you refer to the album cover or what?
@PearlJamm Cynic fucking rock btw!!!
If your here, you like MARS, then I tell you. Go to venius.
@pablobostero1280 not knowing nothing is a double negative. You basically just told him/her that they know everything about drumming. Didn't everyone take English in 1st grade???
did you just learn how to play drums about a week ago?
@RorySinn Yeah whatever, just don't interact with me stranger, please.
Why don't the ghoulies drag their vessels this time? :-)
@LordOfThePracticePad thats cuz you dont luv the mars volta.... its simple the mars volta was omar cedric jon juan adrian marcel and ikey thats it.... tmv died when jon was fired and tp joined the band... i hope deantoni understand omars brain and set the volta again cuz we really need it
hahahaha that's true
I can tell where you're coming from, but it's not that similar.
eunuch provocateur.
A missing chromosome. Are we talking 2n = 24, 2n = 26, or 2n = 28 as a reference point?
仏の事あれば、。。。邪魔達が面倒臭い。
jon theodores style is better than thomas pridgens. who cares whos technically better because theyre both great.
nah thats just what you say because you don't know how to play. and you think you do. Where is that video of you drumming btw?
There was a time when a rock band tried to make non-rock music, and one scream was heard by all the world... the next comes in a residual noise...just echoes... ... what disappointment...Goliath...
They should call this album down syndrom.
noeh thats an EXTRA cromosome:D
i get the joke. i laughed
Wow the drum solo isn't even that great; Thomas plays stuff like that in his sleep people. Love Mars Volta, but not a huge fan of Jon. Sorry guys, I know it makes me some kind of Nazi or something, but whatever....
I don't think Jon is "great", he wont go beyond spreading single stroke rolls all over the drum set without even using his feet. He has only impressed me a bit in their concert at he Electric Ballroom, with his performance of Cicatriz ESP. I think anyone could play like Jon.
drum solo aint shit from theodore. thomas pridgen is way better.
5 years ago you made a comment. That comment was incorrect.
Thomas Pridgen was real good at flashy, fast playing but Jon Theodore could play in the confinements of a song so much better. He was the better drummer.
@@Goctagon thomas was an interesting change for mars volta's sound
they became more chaotic sounding
but jon was the backbone of mars volta's earlier albums. Jon played to fit the ambience of the song and sometimes the drums became an ambient noise in sections of songs which is the opposite to thomas flashy style.
jon had a deeper sense of the role he played in his drumming where as thomas just wanted to show off for the sake of sounding cool