People are so damn lazy you can't even watch a 9 minute video, you just scroll to the comments and hope someone out lined all the points, so you don't have to watch...
This is my favorite one in the series. I went from being completely uncomfortable with possibly making a business of this to feeling ready to give things a shot
1. Contracts: always get one 2. Not charging enough: consider lots of things such as your time, gear, gas, editing etc.. 3. Checklists: client and yourself can always refer back to checklist. 4. Meeting in person. 5. Putting yourself out there.
Peter this is one of your best videos you have made. As a fellow creator I feel like this info you gave is KEY to anyone looking to build their photo / video business. Please do more business related videos as they are few and far between. Most people want tips and tricks or short cuts but none of that is worth anything if you don't have business skills. Please post more real world worth videos such as this. 😀
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Lol yea. I’m definitely introverted, and it’s tough. I’m also a frontman, and am constantly talking to clients with my other job, so I can say it’s definitely doable. It can be a bit difficult at times, but it’s also helped me break out of my shell as well.
@@iansangala I think it is even in our time. Not having a paper portfolio is ok, but business card, this is really important I think, depending of where you live (if it's a culture or not), for exemple I've lived in South Korea and Japan and there is no way you don't carry business card with you. It's how you get myour clients when you don't have the time to show your instagram for example.
Solomon Ian-Sangala people won’t always have the time to follow you on everything in person. Business cards allow you to share your Instagram in person (for example) and then have your Facebook, portfolio, phone number, email on the card
Ok so tip five is so true!! I take my camera with me everywhere. I was at a wedding shower and the grooms mom was taking pics on her phone so I was like “hey I’ve got my camera would you like me to take pics for you?” And I ended up doing pics for the shower and on the wedding day as the bride and her girls got ready!! First time taking pics for an event and it was awesome!!!
So many solid points Peter! I've been stood up NUMEROUS times by my own family and friends for graphic design jobs that I've done, that they've gone back and forth with me about, and never got that payment, and can't ask for it. No contract, no payment! It happens too easy, and sometimes I've found those I ask to sign a contract will back out (maybe it's intent not to pay for the finished product?).. sh*t happens! I've learned the hard way, as many others have also. It's ok to work for free, but don't keep doing it! With the amount I've been paid, I could barely afford gas or lunches on freelance jobs. I'm a solid designer, and I know it now, and a decent photographer - know your worth, and keep to your guns everyone!
From my experience if someone balks at a contract they are suspect. You could argue it's intimidating but if they and you are honest people a contract is a minimal formality that once signed stays in a drawer cause both did their parts honestly. Refusals to sign for me are just a really easy way to separate the Wheat from the Chaff professionally.
I have been watching all your episodes for the last 48 hours straight.. minus sleep, you are such a great teacher. A good teacher is everything! I have had my Canon for 10 years and has collected dust, I have turned to high end androids for my photography because I couldn't understand the buttons and words, no matter what I sourced. I can absolutely say that after 48 hours of listening to you, I get it. Thank you. Your teaching qualifications are as good as the Khan Academy. So well explained, so well broken down. Thank God for you and your help, you just stepped up my entire game.
Hey man. I stared making videos around the same time as you. Pretty much the same stuff, film and photography ... but I started a full time photo gig about a year and a half ago and thus stopped making them. I watch your videos all the time and it kind of makes me jealous, but damn if they aren’t great. Every video you make and who you are... is just so damn cool. You’ve inspired me to hop back on the horse and start making videos again. So thank you and cheers buddy. You’re awesome.
Hey Peter! I’ve got two questions for you. 1. How would you deal with the work you don’t want to do? I mean how do you refuse your clients without making them feel bad? 2.What about the work that you really want to do but your client couldn’t afford the cost? How much discount do you allow? Or even free jobs? Maybe you could make a video about this. Thanks!
BoomTharis yes I like question number 1 and hopes he answers it because I never know how to turn a client down. I always say yes even if I don’t want to.
Ugh... yep, I have made every single one of these mistakes. What is even more sad, is that I've made a couple of them more than once. I'm a big advocate of doing free work to build your portfolio, build your business contacts / network and experience... Nobody will pay you to do something you've never done before. Although, being Australian, I've never had a problem Aunts from Australia... well not professionally anyway 😂
So helpful!! I actually reached out to coffee shops and have a product shoot at the end of the month and he's booking with me for his new menu items when they launch. I'm making this my year and working my way up to better gear and making it a living! Love all the videos you put out! Thanks!
dude...mic in view...mic not in view...don't really care. what you bring in your vlogs/videos/films/tutorials is what i care about. and you bring it my friend...100%. thanks
Hey Pete! Thanks for making this series. I've been shooting for about 6 years now and recently started doing it full time. A lot of these tips I've been implementing and I can definitely say that they pay off! Would love to see more videos on the business side of being a full time photographer soon!
Ive been scared to start with photography and putting myself out there. Hopefully I have enough motivation now to go out there and get it done. Thank you for your last few posts! The advice has been GREAT!
PM, I find myself constantly trying to watch your videos but cannot finish them. I get inspired to go out and try and get shot of my local scene ( High Desert). Try and take tips from you and mimic things. I'm hooked. Photography was thing i picked up to take better pictures of my family, now I find myself pulling over to a ranch and taking pictures of horses or light rays coming through the joshua trees that i used ignore on my drive to work. i regret not taking better photos in the Sea to Sky Gondola in BC. Its a hobby for me but its becoming an obsession. The drive for a better shot. Thanks for taking the time making videos that inspire us. -J. Ibarra
Doing stuff for free at first is great, but I found it hard to tell those people (generally friends and family) that I had to charge them the second (or third time). Putting my foot down was difficult, but eventually, they agreed. They saw it was a passion, and that I wanted to make money doing it (or at least pay off my camera). It all works out in the end, and I think what Peter said about putting yourself out there and seeking out the work is what it ALL boils down to. If I'm the only guy in my town who is out seeking all the jobs and getting the gigs, then all the photographers who sit at home, waiting for people to call them, won't get anything. I'm taking their work. Having skill and technical know how doesn't really mean anything if you don't put in the work on the business end. Work ethic matters.
I'm subscribed to some channels that make tips, tutorials, behind the scenes. The business aspect of what we are doing is so underated and not enough talked about by those channels. You, good sir, with this single video about business have outclassed all the other channels, combined! From my point of view, you've outclassed *Film Riot* in this topic. Good Day!
I've very recently found your channel. Also very recently got into photography.. like very recently. Started in design and realized I enjoy editing other's photo's way more then doing commercial design (saying the words commercial design sucks my soul just by saying those words...) but you've quickly joined the ranks of the others I watch religiously whether it's for inspiration, techniques, or business advice like this. Thank you for sharing all that you do!
Tip number 3. Checklist. It has never ever cross my mind and i always have clients complaining about the photos and shots that ive missed. Thank u so much for sharing
Something I've discovered and could be a helpful tip for some people, if you are looking for a lot of portrait practice, and this may sound weird but, see if there are any local anime or comic conventions in your area. Again, may sound weird to a lot of people but if you're just starting our with photography and need some practice and would like to work with a broad range of different kinds of portraiture find a convention and post in their fb page that you're willing to do free shoots for cosplayers at the con. This could also be a great way to earn some money on the side if you feel you'd like to charge because there are tons of people who really want photos of their costumes and they are all in one place so you don't have to worry about scheduling seperate shoots for different days and vastly different locations. I've been getting into photography lately and I already attend conventions and cosplay so I decided to post that I was providing free shoots to build my portfolio and I had tons of people message me about booking shoots. You aren't going to be working with professional models and there may be times when you aren't shooting at the best time of day but those are all great challenges to push yourself through. Some people may not want this kind of work in their portfolio and that's totally understandable but it can still be really great throw away practice.
@@nikilaj yeah good point, my main thing though is that it makes great "throw away" practice for newer photographers or people just looking to practice with something a little different from the normal model photography you typically see. And from my own knowledge not a ton of photographers do that sort of thing at conventions a whole lot, at least where I'm from. Of course though if it is the case and you get to that level of photographer it is important to know and practice the proper legal guidelines with you're photography.
I'm 72. Your comments took me back to my younger days. I remember each of the instances where these issues arose and how their 'truth' was demonstrated by either avoiding problems or gaining opportunities. I was a shy person so some of these were hard to pull off, but they all were very rewarding to have accomplished. Great advise. Great video. I wish I still had all the energy you exhibit...
I'm a graphic designer but I'm just starting to get into photography and cinematography. I feel like a lot of these tips are applicable to all of these!
100% Agree with all of these tips. I've seen others reference this in their comments, but understanding your worth as a creative is SO vital in becoming successful. Learning to be a decent business person is also VERY important, maybe even more so. There's a reason why certain creatives that are as talented as others get projects worth significantly more, and most of the time it's based on having good business acumen and understanding how to sell the perceived value you can provide to that client. It took me getting my first project, which paid me right under $4,000 (Definitely not a flex, it was a lot of hard work but invaluable experience) that showed me that we as creatives need to fight off the "imposter" syndrome as much as possible. To understand we are worth what we want (and probably more so), but we have to first believe that ourselves before we can expect others to. Keep killin' it everyone & good luck! 🤙🏼
Sometimes you do these things that are just super adorable and I’m like omg I wanna hug you cuz you’re so cute. Lots of burly man-men lose that quality and I find it so extra endearing.
Man, l dont care what you are saying, I think your success is mainly because of your awesome energetic and funny ( without being cheesy) personality. Your energy is also off the chart... Where do you get these from.? I watched your friend casey's channel for a while and he is very similar in these aspects ( just not that funny for my taste). Are you all NYers like that? Either way, I am impressed . Keep it up!
Please people, take all that Peter is saying and tattooed it on your arm if necessary. Can't remark this enough. Those are things that you learn over time and by the hard way. It's all fun and games til you break a 1000/3000 $ gear on a gig that barely pays you for the gas, or that you spend hours and hours working on something that doesnt represent the ultimate good that you trade, which is your time (aka your life).
The biggest piece of advice in this world I know is to be confident in your ability and the price that you put forward! 💵💵 Back yourself, at least infront of the client. You can freak out when your walking away not believing you were able to pull it off!
You are my inspiration! I have followed you from Italy already 1 year and I think you are a perfect example that if you be someone you could be! I see all of your videos and every time I can say to me that I will be like you, that I can improve my work and my competence, doing my work better! Thank you so much Peter!! A big greeting from Treviso, near Venezia in Italy!!!
I absolutely loved this series. I've been freelancing for 8+ years and still learned some awesome things from all of these videos. I would love to see more!
SO much great advice and info here. I think we all learn soooo much through the process of building our businesses so sometimes when looking back it is a little painful like... man... why didn't I know that sooner?? haha
Great video Peter! I really appreciate you sharing your years of knowledge with us and assisting in teaching the next generation of photographers/videographers
Hey Peter, loved this video! I want to dive a bit deeper with #4: Meeting in person. When you do set up that meeting, what are some typical things you would prepare for your client (besides showcasing your previous work)? Would you include a mood board, examples of photog styles, ideal shots (tying into checklist point), etc..?
This video helped me step up my hobby and earn. I started small from $50 to making $200-$300. It was fun and exciting, making money out of your hobby, I was just 18, now I'm 25. I worked full time now in a call center company. Never been around a camera for 3 years. It was a very nice chapter of my life. You're name will always be in my mind. Thanks for getting me moving and actually do good at something. Too bad I have to stop. Life is hard.
Your enthusiasm and passion in photography makes me motivated to continue! Thank you for sharing those essentials, I always made contracts, even for family and friends to sign that they are ok with posting their photos on my website etc. Thankyou!
Peter, when will you introduce your editor? :) I can feel your stuff is edited a bit differently and these motion graphics in your latest videos are something you could not find time for I suppose :) Just curious ;)
You're not saying anything that crazy, but the energy and the way it sounds so simple said that way just gives me the energy to go for it. Thanks for that mate
Im not a photographer. I own a business and things have been pretty rough lately but tip number 5 really encouraged me. It’s something I really needed to hear. Thanks peter! Oh and i do my own product photography too and your tips really helped me a lot!
Peter, so far you don't talk much about gears (I use Canon as well), and I LIKE it! you nailed your content with more experience and tips, that made your channel different from others!
Thanks Pete for this video! I've been just recently moving into photography and videography. And I love learning as much as I possibly can. Anyway, Much appreciated, as always! Keep on dropping them knowledge nuggets on us! 😁
You should be glad to start so early! I only literally started yesterday and I'm almost 19😭😭😭 Take advantage of the fact that you have a head start on people like me and your photos will look semi-professional by the time you're my age
@@tiaan7183 From my perspective, you're starting young too. I just got a rebel t7i as a gift for myself 2days ago on my 27th bday. Dunno where to start, might just do it as a hobby tho.
Boom! This is it! Pete, you nailed it. All of these points are mistakes every new pro photographer has made, is making, keeps making. Thanks for reminding me of these! Keep up the great work
Duuuuuuuude!!! You killed it spot on! I needed this clip cause just last week I wished I had a checklist, my last client pulled that aunt from Australia line and I was dumbfounded. Appreciate the vid Pete!!! Cheers
I charged $150 for a 45 second promo, (my first one) it took around 4-5 hours. Shot with a $1500 rig, is that about right or should I have charged more
In 1990s, I was asked to do the wedding photography on the cheap as a 'favour'. No contract, no fees negotiated, no check list. I brought the Kodak disposable cameras, and they were incredulous to see me using them. I explained that they only wanted to pay me peanuts so peanut-level equipment. The wedding was delayed while they made a mad rush to locate another photographer at the last minute. While their search for another photographer was fruitness, I pointed out that I brought the professional-grade camera and equipment. That brought them to the collective knees, begging me. I told them: first, the contract that they hired me as their wedding photographer on this and that date and location (I brought the pre-printed contracts with me), that I was using the professional-grade camera and equipment; second, the non-negotiable fee for last minute booking (I made them write a cheque for x-amount upfront); third, a list of what they wanted me to take; fourth, any additional prints would cost separately. Of course, being arsehole has advantages sometimes.
You geniunely inspired me !!! Thank you. I'm struggling to keep with my photography job and I have many financial problems and your story really opened my eyes to help me see things and make them different. Thank you really thank you
Peter, I know this is a old video, but I wanted to say you videos are always informative and this one especially. I think it's a good reminder of things as we are getting started with our businesses.
Peter, I don't know if you'll ever read this, but if you do, I started watching your videos a couple years ago and lately I've noticed a lot of other people opening their videos with the "WHATS UP EVERYBODY" thingy that you do. I am inclined to believe that everybody on earth is copying you., because nobody is cooler than you. You are completely original and unique in every way. Right? Of course right! Love ya man! By the way, they all suck at it! lol.
Tutorial of how to watch a Peter McKinnon video:step 1 hit the the notification on your phone (you should have this turned on, obviously it's Peter McKinnon) Step 2 smash that like button because its going to be an awesome video (obviously it's Peter McKinnon) Step 3 enjoy the advice, motivation, amazing b-roll and so on... (Remember this is a Peter McKinnon video) Step 4 add a comment cause u awesome ( obviously so is Peter McKinnon and his videos) Step 5 go out and we the motivation, tutorials,tips and tricks you learnt, to be awesome ( just like Peter McKinnon)
I unexpectedly received a Canon rebel T6 the other day and I just wanted to say I'm enjoying your videos a lot and learning what I need. keep bringing that fire content My friend!
To be honest. I've watched all your videos and this is by far the most intriguing. I'd really be interested in learning more of the business aspects from you just because you started from nothing and made it so far into the game. Best wishes man
1:08 - #1 Contracts
2:20 - #2 Not Charging Enough
4:20 - #3 Checklists
5:29 - #4 Meeting in Person
6:31 - #5 Putting Yourself Out There
this is so HELPFUL!!!
lol
Bradly Franco, thank you for the summary! I’m going to go write these down.
People are so damn lazy you can't even watch a 9 minute video, you just scroll to the comments and hope someone out lined all the points, so you don't have to watch...
We need more TH-cam commenters like this
This is my favorite one in the series. I went from being completely uncomfortable with possibly making a business of this to feeling ready to give things a shot
HA...give it a "shot" XDDDDDDD
Agreed
1. Contracts: always get one
2. Not charging enough: consider lots of things such as your time, gear, gas, editing etc..
3. Checklists: client and yourself can always refer back to checklist.
4. Meeting in person.
5. Putting yourself out there.
So my youtube is set on night mode and I love how the vignette in Peters videos blends in with the rest of my screen
I didn't know YT had a dark theme, thanks for that!! :)
Agreed
Same here haha
U made me switch to dark mode rn
@@PreshOnTheGoPH Awesome. Keep it in Dark mode. Switching back to normal mode will hurt your eyes lol.
This “pro bono” explanation is gorgeous😂😂😂
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Peter, I don't know what creative juices you've been on (other than coffee) lately but you're killing it!
I agree, I'm enjoying his vids so much lately 😁
Definitely some Red Bull ;)
Absolutely!
Well now you need to market an energy drink called "Creative Juice".
I agree, the colour slider and the dictionary search was a sweet move 👌🏽👌🏽
Peter this is one of your best videos you have made. As a fellow creator I feel like this info you gave is KEY to anyone looking to build their photo / video business. Please do more business related videos as they are few and far between. Most people want tips and tricks or short cuts but none of that is worth anything if you don't have business skills. Please post more real world worth videos such as this. 😀
When you say business videos, do you mean business in general? Or creative business insights specifically?
@@MarkCuda I mean business as a creative.
I agree. More videos like this. I learned a lot.
After 33 years in the creative industry, everything you just said is exactly right. Great advice
I liked this. I like them all the most.
When you see someone you like on TH-cam liking someone that you like on TH-cams content! 😍🤩
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Contracts are so important. So many issues have popped up with clients because expectations are different. Thanks for making that point so important!
That sweater looks so damned cozy.
yes! I want it! :)
First thing first: get a so damned cozy sweater and then do the contract.
Hey dunna!
So warm and fuzzy...
E P - Hey! What's going on!
Imagine being an introvert photographer looking for work
Imagine being in the wrong job...
Lol yea. I’m definitely introverted, and it’s tough. I’m also a frontman, and am constantly talking to clients with my other job, so I can say it’s definitely doable. It can be a bit difficult at times, but it’s also helped me break out of my shell as well.
Don’t need to imagine it, living it
I feel you :(
This 👏
You forgot TIP #6: Always carry business cards
This!!
Not necessary in 2019 or 2020
@@iansangala I think it is even in our time. Not having a paper portfolio is ok, but business card, this is really important I think, depending of where you live (if it's a culture or not), for exemple I've lived in South Korea and Japan and there is no way you don't carry business card with you. It's how you get myour clients when you don't have the time to show your instagram for example.
Solomon Ian-Sangala people won’t always have the time to follow you on everything in person. Business cards allow you to share your Instagram in person (for example) and then have your Facebook, portfolio, phone number, email on the card
Solomon Ian-Sangala necessary..professional and good impression to the clients
Dear Peter,
Altough i am a doctor, not a film maker, i am learning how to make videos for my patient from you.
you are great.
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Ok so tip five is so true!! I take my camera with me everywhere. I was at a wedding shower and the grooms mom was taking pics on her phone so I was like “hey I’ve got my camera would you like me to take pics for you?” And I ended up doing pics for the shower and on the wedding day as the bride and her girls got ready!! First time taking pics for an event and it was awesome!!!
So many solid points Peter! I've been stood up NUMEROUS times by my own family and friends for graphic design jobs that I've done, that they've gone back and forth with me about, and never got that payment, and can't ask for it. No contract, no payment! It happens too easy, and sometimes I've found those I ask to sign a contract will back out (maybe it's intent not to pay for the finished product?).. sh*t happens! I've learned the hard way, as many others have also. It's ok to work for free, but don't keep doing it! With the amount I've been paid, I could barely afford gas or lunches on freelance jobs. I'm a solid designer, and I know it now, and a decent photographer - know your worth, and keep to your guns everyone!
From my experience if someone balks at a contract they are suspect. You could argue it's intimidating but if they and you are honest people a contract is a minimal formality that once signed stays in a drawer cause both did their parts honestly. Refusals to sign for me are just a really easy way to separate the Wheat from the Chaff professionally.
Wow Peter, I can’t get over how good these edits are! Such an inspiration to put the time in while editing
I remember when you taped that gopro to your foot; I miss when you put the camera in really unique places.. could you do more of that?
Phil Sim this needs more likes to get him to notice
"Show them that charming personality"... where the hell am I supposed to get one of those?
Can you talk about this please and how to do the business
I have been watching all your episodes for the last 48 hours straight.. minus sleep, you are such a great teacher. A good teacher is everything! I have had my Canon for 10 years and has collected dust, I have turned to high end androids for my photography because I couldn't understand the buttons and words, no matter what I sourced. I can absolutely say that after 48 hours of listening to you, I get it. Thank you. Your teaching qualifications are as good as the Khan Academy. So well explained, so well broken down. Thank God for you and your help, you just stepped up my entire game.
Hey man. I stared making videos around the same time as you. Pretty much the same stuff, film and photography ... but I started a full time photo gig about a year and a half ago and thus stopped making them. I watch your videos all the time and it kind of makes me jealous, but damn if they aren’t great. Every video you make and who you are... is just so damn cool. You’ve inspired me to hop back on the horse and start making videos again. So thank you and cheers buddy. You’re awesome.
Hey Peter! I’ve got two questions for you.
1. How would you deal with the work you don’t want to do? I mean how do you refuse your clients without making them feel bad?
2.What about the work that you really want to do but your client couldn’t afford the cost? How much discount do you allow? Or even free jobs?
Maybe you could make a video about this. Thanks!
BoomTharis yes I like question number 1 and hopes he answers it because I never know how to turn a client down. I always say yes even if I don’t want to.
I read somewhere that if you don't want to shoot for a client than tell them that you have another shoot on same day
@@mahekdesai7596 never lie, if u don't want to do it then just tell them
@@TheRunawayCreeper I am not a professional photographer (I wish I was) but sure I will keep this in mind👍
Maybe charge a really high price to where it’s likely they’ll turn it down and if they don’t then you made a lot of money
Ugh... yep, I have made every single one of these mistakes. What is even more sad, is that I've made a couple of them more than once. I'm a big advocate of doing free work to build your portfolio, build your business contacts / network and experience... Nobody will pay you to do something you've never done before. Although, being Australian, I've never had a problem Aunts from Australia... well not professionally anyway 😂
Do you live in Perth, we should collaborate?
I actually live in the South West, but would be happy to collaborate, I'm in Perth for some meetings next week.
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So helpful!! I actually reached out to coffee shops and have a product shoot at the end of the month and he's booking with me for his new menu items when they launch. I'm making this my year and working my way up to better gear and making it a living! Love all the videos you put out! Thanks!
WOW! It takes a lot to go knocking on doors! That's bad ass
@@NatalieKeeton 3 years later, how is your photography career going now?
@@jonathanlarsen6348 i was about to ask the same
Waiting
“Meeting in person”
Coronavirus: *No*
America: Yes
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Lol
@@Home_Rich lol😂
dude...mic in view...mic not in view...don't really care. what you bring in your vlogs/videos/films/tutorials is what i care about. and you bring it my friend...100%. thanks
Hey Pete! Thanks for making this series. I've been shooting for about 6 years now and recently started doing it full time. A lot of these tips I've been implementing and I can definitely say that they pay off! Would love to see more videos on the business side of being a full time photographer soon!
Ive been scared to start with photography and putting myself out there. Hopefully I have enough motivation now to go out there and get it done. Thank you for your last few posts! The advice has been GREAT!
PM, I find myself constantly trying to watch your videos but cannot finish them. I get inspired to go out and try and get shot of my local scene ( High Desert). Try and take tips from you and mimic things. I'm hooked. Photography was thing i picked up to take better pictures of my family, now I find myself pulling over to a ranch and taking pictures of horses or light rays coming through the joshua trees that i used ignore on my drive to work. i regret not taking better photos in the Sea to Sky Gondola in BC. Its a hobby for me but its becoming an obsession. The drive for a better shot. Thanks for taking the time making videos that inspire us. -J. Ibarra
Doing stuff for free at first is great, but I found it hard to tell those people (generally friends and family) that I had to charge them the second (or third time). Putting my foot down was difficult, but eventually, they agreed. They saw it was a passion, and that I wanted to make money doing it (or at least pay off my camera). It all works out in the end, and I think what Peter said about putting yourself out there and seeking out the work is what it ALL boils down to. If I'm the only guy in my town who is out seeking all the jobs and getting the gigs, then all the photographers who sit at home, waiting for people to call them, won't get anything. I'm taking their work. Having skill and technical know how doesn't really mean anything if you don't put in the work on the business end. Work ethic matters.
Can we just appreciate the energy that Peter has - he’s so helpful and his personality is amazing - yes!! ☺️👍🏻
You look like Jon Snow if he wasn’t always depressed.
I agree
lol he really does
LMAO best comment ever
I can’t unsee this now. 😂
This Jon Snow knows something..
I'm subscribed to some channels that make tips, tutorials, behind the scenes. The business aspect of what we are doing is so underated and not enough talked about by those channels. You, good sir, with this single video about business have outclassed all the other channels, combined! From my point of view, you've outclassed *Film Riot* in this topic. Good Day!
Very good to know! What other photography business topics would you like covered?
I've very recently found your channel. Also very recently got into photography.. like very recently. Started in design and realized I enjoy editing other's photo's way more then doing commercial design (saying the words commercial design sucks my soul just by saying those words...) but you've quickly joined the ranks of the others I watch religiously whether it's for inspiration, techniques, or business advice like this. Thank you for sharing all that you do!
Tip number 3. Checklist.
It has never ever cross my mind and i always have clients complaining about the photos and shots that ive missed.
Thank u so much for sharing
I'm shooting my first wedding on Saturday so this video really relieved some stress! Thanks Pete!
good luck bro u can check out my first wedding video on my channel i was mad stressed about it.
Good Luck bro
Thank you!!
Thanks a lot! Much appreciated!
Peter, thanks for these tips. They inspire me and let me know that creating my own business with photography and cinematography is very possible.
It is totally possible! Don't give up grind until you make it! Hope you're running a successful company 9 month later...!
Something I've discovered and could be a helpful tip for some people, if you are looking for a lot of portrait practice, and this may sound weird but, see if there are any local anime or comic conventions in your area. Again, may sound weird to a lot of people but if you're just starting our with photography and need some practice and would like to work with a broad range of different kinds of portraiture find a convention and post in their fb page that you're willing to do free shoots for cosplayers at the con. This could also be a great way to earn some money on the side if you feel you'd like to charge because there are tons of people who really want photos of their costumes and they are all in one place so you don't have to worry about scheduling seperate shoots for different days and vastly different locations. I've been getting into photography lately and I already attend conventions and cosplay so I decided to post that I was providing free shoots to build my portfolio and I had tons of people message me about booking shoots. You aren't going to be working with professional models and there may be times when you aren't shooting at the best time of day but those are all great challenges to push yourself through.
Some people may not want this kind of work in their portfolio and that's totally understandable but it can still be really great throw away practice.
@@nikilaj yeah good point, my main thing though is that it makes great "throw away" practice for newer photographers or people just looking to practice with something a little different from the normal model photography you typically see. And from my own knowledge not a ton of photographers do that sort of thing at conventions a whole lot, at least where I'm from. Of course though if it is the case and you get to that level of photographer it is important to know and practice the proper legal guidelines with you're photography.
I'm 72. Your comments took me back to my younger days. I remember each of the instances where these issues arose and how their 'truth' was demonstrated by either avoiding problems or gaining opportunities. I was a shy person so some of these were hard to pull off, but they all were very rewarding to have accomplished. Great advise. Great video. I wish I still had all the energy you exhibit...
Huh! This video was made 5 years ago & it still shines,looks fresh!
4:01 can't stop laughing 😂😂😂
lol same here! 😂 That was literally me when my first client told me how much they were willing to pay!
It's so funny! Love him!
Definitely the same reaction here when I get any business or money from someone! Hilariously relatable!
😂😂😂
Josiah Minks I keep repeating that part 😂😂😂😂
I'm just disturbed by how Peter just opened the red bull and let out all the gas...
lol
Huuuuuuuuuugh??????
Kevin Start I imagined Matti taking it from him on the side..
Peter mckinnon makes me inspire me to go out and shoot again. Thank you!
Energy, graphics, lighting, editing, information... geezus man, you're frackin awesome! Seriously PM, thank you so much.
I'm a graphic designer but I'm just starting to get into photography and cinematography. I feel like a lot of these tips are applicable to all of these!
WHOOOO Pete is back with a new viddy!
This video was really timely. Thanks for the tips! Liked this series!
Excellent advice! And so applicable to so many industries even beyond photography 👍🏽
100% Agree with all of these tips. I've seen others reference this in their comments, but understanding your worth as a creative is SO vital in becoming successful. Learning to be a decent business person is also VERY important, maybe even more so. There's a reason why certain creatives that are as talented as others get projects worth significantly more, and most of the time it's based on having good business acumen and understanding how to sell the perceived value you can provide to that client. It took me getting my first project, which paid me right under $4,000 (Definitely not a flex, it was a lot of hard work but invaluable experience) that showed me that we as creatives need to fight off the "imposter" syndrome as much as possible. To understand we are worth what we want (and probably more so), but we have to first believe that ourselves before we can expect others to. Keep killin' it everyone & good luck! 🤙🏼
His videos are one of those that I don't skip any part(s). Good job Mister!!
3:24 "software that you're paying for"
me: _hehe_
lmao
🤣🤣🤣
This one had a lot of passion! Loved the energy!
It is fake energy like in every video he makes. To make him appear "super cool" dude you want to listen to.
Sometimes you do these things that are just super adorable and I’m like omg I wanna hug you cuz you’re so cute. Lots of burly man-men lose that quality and I find it so extra endearing.
Peter! You’re on FIRE! 🔥 this new style of videos and tips are awesome! Keep it up and thanks!
Man, l dont care what you are saying, I think your success is mainly because of your awesome energetic and funny ( without being cheesy) personality. Your energy is also off the chart... Where do you get these from.? I watched your friend casey's channel for a while and he is very similar in these aspects ( just not that funny for my taste). Are you all NYers like that? Either way, I am impressed . Keep it up!
Bro you freaking BROUGHT it in this vid!! SO GOOD
Please people, take all that Peter is saying and tattooed it on your arm if necessary. Can't remark this enough. Those are things that you learn over time and by the hard way. It's all fun and games til you break a 1000/3000 $ gear on a gig that barely pays you for the gas, or that you spend hours and hours working on something that doesnt represent the ultimate good that you trade, which is your time (aka your life).
The biggest piece of advice in this world I know is to be confident in your ability and the price that you put forward! 💵💵 Back yourself, at least infront of the client. You can freak out when your walking away not believing you were able to pull it off!
You are my inspiration! I have followed you from Italy already 1 year and I think you are a perfect example that if you be someone you could be! I see all of your videos and every time I can say to me that I will be like you, that I can improve my work and my competence, doing my work better! Thank you so much Peter!! A big greeting from Treviso, near Venezia in Italy!!!
I absolutely loved this series. I've been freelancing for 8+ years and still learned some awesome things from all of these videos. I would love to see more!
SO much great advice and info here. I think we all learn soooo much through the process of building our businesses so sometimes when looking back it is a little painful like... man... why didn't I know that sooner?? haha
Another awesome video peter! I am currently moving into offering video services to clients so this is helpful
Great video Peter! I really appreciate you sharing your years of knowledge with us and assisting in teaching the next generation of photographers/videographers
Hey Peter, loved this video! I want to dive a bit deeper with #4: Meeting in person. When you do set up that meeting, what are some typical things you would prepare for your client (besides showcasing your previous work)? Would you include a mood board, examples of photog styles, ideal shots (tying into checklist point), etc..?
This video helped me step up my hobby and earn. I started small from $50 to making $200-$300. It was fun and exciting, making money out of your hobby, I was just 18, now I'm 25. I worked full time now in a call center company. Never been around a camera for 3 years. It was a very nice chapter of my life. You're name will always be in my mind. Thanks for getting me moving and actually do good at something. Too bad I have to stop. Life is hard.
Mistakes you want to avoid when shooting video: Clap before you record, so you can synch audio and video well.
Very helpful tips!
4:01 he just seems the squirrel from the ice age 😁😁😁
omg, just saw that part and fell out laughing at your comment. I can't unsee it now!
@@safiyyahraedellinger1992 same same hahaha
Lmaooooo!!!!
I can't express the level of motivation and inspiration I find from watching your videos. You, my man, are very much appreciated!
Your enthusiasm and passion in photography makes me motivated to continue! Thank you for sharing those essentials, I always made contracts, even for family and friends to sign that they are ok with posting their photos on my website etc. Thankyou!
Peter, when will you introduce your editor? :) I can feel your stuff is edited a bit differently and these motion graphics in your latest videos are something you could not find time for I suppose :) Just curious ;)
Cut To The Point yeaaa! Noticed that, too!
Good spot!
I am 100% sure that he edited it.
Pretty sure he uses templates
Nah... these are custom tailored. Peter is having an editor which is good considering how busy the man must be.
Do you think everyone is over doing the blue or teal and orange tone?
Anthony WoWv YES. Hahah
Sir,Inspired by your speech
I am 16 yrs old and I also want to go ahead in this PROFESION 😍CAUSE this is what I love
LOVE FROM INDIA😊🇮🇳🇮🇳
You're not saying anything that crazy, but the energy and the way it sounds so simple said that way just gives me the energy to go for it. Thanks for that mate
Im not a photographer. I own a business and things have been pretty rough lately but tip number 5 really encouraged me. It’s something I really needed to hear. Thanks peter! Oh and i do my own product photography too and your tips really helped me a lot!
4:05 made me laugh. Great video, thanks Pete! Definitely gonna use these tips going out into the photography world
PETER I LOVE THESE VIDEOS ON BEGINNER MISTAKES AND THESE TUTORIALS!!!
😂 sorry for all caps I just had to make my point!
Was literally just looking for a video like this! Thank you!!!
Peter, so far you don't talk much about gears (I use Canon as well), and I LIKE it! you nailed your content with more experience and tips, that made your channel different from others!
Thanks Pete for this video!
I've been just recently moving into photography and videography. And I love learning as much as I possibly can.
Anyway,
Much appreciated, as always!
Keep on dropping them knowledge nuggets on us!
😁
I love the "I'm learning how to use After Effects" Peter McKinnon!
I’m 14 and wanted to get into photography. Lucky enough my parents decided to let me use their Nikon D3100!
I’m turning 14 and I’m saving for the Nikon d3500
You should be glad to start so early! I only literally started yesterday and I'm almost 19😭😭😭 Take advantage of the fact that you have a head start on people like me and your photos will look semi-professional by the time you're my age
@@tiaan7183 From my perspective, you're starting young too. I just got a rebel t7i as a gift for myself 2days ago on my 27th bday. Dunno where to start, might just do it as a hobby tho.
@@kaizerjohn9685 Damn man, congrats, yeah I think photogtaphy is a really great hobby so enjoy it to its fullest.
the last tip pumped more energy in me than a redbull can ever inject ⚡man! you're just amazing ❤️
Boom! This is it! Pete, you nailed it. All of these points are mistakes every new pro photographer has made, is making, keeps making. Thanks for reminding me of these! Keep up the great work
Duuuuuuuude!!! You killed it spot on! I needed this clip cause just last week I wished I had a checklist, my last client pulled that aunt from Australia line and I was dumbfounded. Appreciate the vid Pete!!! Cheers
I charged $150 for a 45 second promo, (my first one) it took around 4-5 hours. Shot with a $1500 rig, is that about right or should I have charged more
Austin Schrock More for sure!
More
charge more
Should have charged more like $250 - You only charged $30 an hour, you can get that for teaching someone to play guitar...
More!
Peter what are your thoughts on EOS R? Can we expect a video?
In 1990s, I was asked to do the wedding photography on the cheap as a 'favour'. No contract, no fees negotiated, no check list. I brought the Kodak disposable cameras, and they were incredulous to see me using them. I explained that they only wanted to pay me peanuts so peanut-level equipment.
The wedding was delayed while they made a mad rush to locate another photographer at the last minute. While their search for another photographer was fruitness, I pointed out that I brought the professional-grade camera and equipment. That brought them to the collective knees, begging me.
I told them: first, the contract that they hired me as their wedding photographer on this and that date and location (I brought the pre-printed contracts with me), that I was using the professional-grade camera and equipment; second, the non-negotiable fee for last minute booking (I made them write a cheque for x-amount upfront); third, a list of what they wanted me to take; fourth, any additional prints would cost separately.
Of course, being arsehole has advantages sometimes.
Such a savage way to make someone pay you. I like it lol.
You flat out extorted someone on their wedding day. Well done you.
This is how you have to deal with people a majority of the time though and it sucks absolutely sucks so much. Good on you for standing your ground.
InTeCredo i really dont believe this happened like that
@Hijackerz Graphix Sure!
You geniunely inspired me !!! Thank you. I'm struggling to keep with my photography job and I have many financial problems and your story really opened my eyes to help me see things and make them different.
Thank you really thank you
Peter, I know this is a old video, but I wanted to say you videos are always informative and this one especially. I think it's a good reminder of things as we are getting started with our businesses.
am here watching this 2020
i have watched my 5th time now i need all this to sink deep in my vains thankss Mr P
Thanks for this. I love #5. I'm going to start taking my camera everywhere.
Thank you for tutorials!
Peter, I don't know if you'll ever read this, but if you do, I started watching your videos a couple years ago and lately I've noticed a lot of other people opening their videos with the "WHATS UP EVERYBODY" thingy that you do. I am inclined to believe that everybody on earth is copying you., because nobody is cooler than you. You are completely original and unique in every way. Right? Of course right! Love ya man! By the way, they all suck at it! lol.
You were born to be in front of the camera!!! I love your videos, not only are they informative, but clear and easy to follow.
Tutorial of how to watch a Peter McKinnon video:step 1 hit the the notification on your phone (you should have this turned on, obviously it's Peter McKinnon)
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Step 3 enjoy the advice, motivation, amazing b-roll and so on... (Remember this is a Peter McKinnon video)
Step 4 add a comment cause u awesome ( obviously so is Peter McKinnon and his videos)
Step 5 go out and we the motivation, tutorials,tips and tricks you learnt, to be awesome ( just like Peter McKinnon)
Great video! Especially the part with the "$$" :D You really made me laugh! Love your channel, you give such great tips!
2:37 I actually paused the video and searched "pro bono", then resume, and you edited it in the video :P
I unexpectedly received a Canon rebel T6 the other day and I just wanted to say I'm enjoying your videos a lot and learning what I need. keep bringing that fire content My friend!
To be honest. I've watched all your videos and this is by far the most intriguing. I'd really be interested in learning more of the business aspects from you just because you started from nothing and made it so far into the game. Best wishes man