Hi Dan, sorry I can't help on this one I know when we had a pond in the back garden we had a pump in that and I had to prime it first. But like you said you have already try that, so sorry. But I wish you & your family all the best for Christmas & New Year. Regards George...
Hi George, thanks for that, I'll keep experimenting with it. Wishing you and yours all the best for a great Christmas and New Year too, and thanks for your support during 2018! Cheers :)
Some pumps can be primed by having the intake submerged (held vertically) while pouring water down the other tube until it starts to spit. It needs to have no air inside it or it won't pump. I hope this helps....Tom
Thanks Tom I'll give that a shot. I also have a sneaking suspicion it may be the power supply for some reason? Not sure, will keep experimenting though, cheers
Hi Dan Kevin here, thanks for your reply, but one thing I forgot to mention is I don't use regulated 12 volt supply for my accessories, and if required then used. To me your reply sounds like not enough juice - try the windscreen washer motors, and if to fast reduce power or use a rheostat to give you the speed for the pump - or try 9-6 volts? Anyway, I love what you have done with your layout.
Hi Kevin, I thought that too maybe re: not enough juice. I have an old Tri-ang controller and thought I could give the 15v AC output a shot, but as I'm crap with electronics I don't really know the difference that AC versus DC would give you? Are you able to advise? I've ordered a windscreen washer motor so will try that one and will put a vid up. Glad you are liking the layout, thanks for the kind words! Cheers
Hi Dan, and thanks for your reply. I use 16vDC for all my points etc and also for some accessories. But for lights, pumps etc it is just a transformer that i had that is 12 to 18 volts DC. I also get a lot of my water pumps from a car wrecker to keep cost down, as sometimes new is expensive. Just watch AC as too much can cause trouble, but just test and if ok good. Also did Faller kit say anything about what power to use as most faller kits use either Marklin or Flyshmin controllers and they are 15/16 volts AC. I am no Electronics expert but like you just trial and error, or if really concern talk to Laurie McLean MMR, (this is his youtube site) who is Australia and is an electronic expert. His site is amazing as to what he does. Hope this helps.
It is important to prime the pump, using the tubes and forcing water through. The other point does the pump make any noise, or if it is put close to your check can you feel air coming out or air going in. If no noise then it is possible for the new pump to be faulty. I use 12-volt windscreen washer motors as I have access to them through the trade. Hope this helps.
SF-RATON-NZ Thanks for the advice, that’s great. What I’m finding is on regulated 12 volts the pump revs for a second when the wires touch, but with constant power it does nothing? Fantastic tip re: the windshield wiper! I’ll have to look into that, thanks for your help! Cheers, Dan
csxmad Hi Robert, no I hadn’t actually done that mate, as the diagrams show it not fully submerged, but some show it partially submerged? Do you reckon that may be the go to try that? I was worried about the wiring etc?
@@TheMisterdan01 Dan not saying it's right or wrong, but with a real water pump it's has to have water in it to try and pump, and sometimes it takes a while to pump. But if no one else knows and you have a spare one well do you try or not? And i will leave you on that note cheers Robert
csxmad Yep I’ve done that, I reckon I may have got a faulty one, although I’m thinking of trying another power pack tomorrow to see how that goes, fingers crossed! Thanks for your advice 👍🏻
That's what I found: www.faller.de/xs_db/DOKUMENT_DB/www/anleitungen/180627_anl_01.pdf and Once I had a similiar one from POLA LGB and it was not placed in the water. Perhaps try it outside the layout connect the Pump to the hoses and to an AC source and mark the direction on the Pump. Cheers Andy PS.: one side seams to be thicker, that should be the entry side.
Wish I could help, but I am sure it is not self priming. The Faller car magnets are 22 volt dc or ac. Not sure if that would carry through to this. Rob
Rob McCrain Thanks Rob, yeah it’s a strange one, the pump doesn’t seem to stay on when connected to the power, but if keep touching the wires together on and off it revs up briefly and then stops again, but nothing with constant power? Think I may have received a dud perhaps? Cheers, Dan
As much as I would love to help, I have no experience with that product. Would contacting your local swimming pool maintenance people help. Cheers GregMerry Christmas Dan and thanks for all your videos during 2018
David Howarth Thanks Dave, yeah it’s a strange one. I’ll keep having a play, otherwise I may try a cheap windshield wiper motor as has been suggested 👍🏻
Hi Dan, sorry I can't help on this one I know when we had a pond in the back garden we had a pump in that and I had to prime it first. But like you said you have already try that, so sorry. But I wish you & your family all the best for Christmas & New Year. Regards George...
Hi George, thanks for that, I'll keep experimenting with it. Wishing you and yours all the best for a great Christmas and New Year too, and thanks for your support during 2018! Cheers :)
Use a car windscreen washer pump from the scrappy...
Thanks Gavin I'm going to give that a go, cheers
Some pumps can be primed by having the intake submerged (held vertically) while pouring water down the other tube until it starts to spit. It needs to have no air inside it or it won't pump. I hope this helps....Tom
Thanks Tom I'll give that a shot. I also have a sneaking suspicion it may be the power supply for some reason? Not sure, will keep experimenting though, cheers
Hi Dan Kevin here, thanks for your reply, but one thing I forgot to mention is I don't use regulated 12 volt supply for my accessories, and if required then used. To me your reply sounds like not enough juice - try the windscreen washer motors, and if to fast reduce power or use a rheostat to give you the speed for the pump - or try 9-6 volts? Anyway, I love what you have done with your layout.
Hi Kevin, I thought that too maybe re: not enough juice. I have an old Tri-ang controller and thought I could give the 15v AC output a shot, but as I'm crap with electronics I don't really know the difference that AC versus DC would give you? Are you able to advise? I've ordered a windscreen washer motor so will try that one and will put a vid up. Glad you are liking the layout, thanks for the kind words! Cheers
Hi Dan, and thanks for your reply. I use 16vDC for all my points etc and also for some accessories. But for lights, pumps etc it is just a transformer that i had that is 12 to 18 volts DC. I also get a lot of my water pumps from a car wrecker to keep cost down, as sometimes new is expensive. Just watch AC as too much can cause trouble, but just test and if ok good. Also did Faller kit say anything about what power to use as most faller kits use either Marklin or Flyshmin controllers and they are 15/16 volts AC. I am no Electronics expert but like you just trial and error, or if really concern talk to Laurie McLean MMR, (this is his youtube site) who is Australia and is an electronic expert. His site is amazing as to what he does. Hope this helps.
Thanks for the advice Kevin, that's awesome! I'll check out Laurie also, cheers :)
It is important to prime the pump, using the tubes and forcing water through. The other point does the pump make any noise, or if it is put close to your check can you feel air coming out or air going in. If no noise then it is possible for the new pump to be faulty. I use 12-volt windscreen washer motors as I have access to them through the trade. Hope this helps.
SF-RATON-NZ Thanks for the advice, that’s great. What I’m finding is on regulated 12 volts the pump revs for a second when the wires touch, but with constant power it does nothing? Fantastic tip re: the windshield wiper! I’ll have to look into that, thanks for your help! Cheers, Dan
Dan the only thing i would say is the pump should be completely submerge in water.
But i'm guessing you have already done that cheers Robert
csxmad Hi Robert, no I hadn’t actually done that mate, as the diagrams show it not fully submerged, but some show it partially submerged? Do you reckon that may be the go to try that? I was worried about the wiring etc?
@@TheMisterdan01 Dan not saying it's right or wrong, but with a real water pump it's has to have water in it to try and pump,
and sometimes it takes a while to pump. But if no one else knows and you have a spare one well do you try or not?
And i will leave you on that note cheers Robert
Or a safe option is to put water in the hose first, have you done that cheers
csxmad Yep I’ve done that, I reckon I may have got a faulty one, although I’m thinking of trying another power pack tomorrow to see how that goes, fingers crossed! Thanks for your advice 👍🏻
That's what I found: www.faller.de/xs_db/DOKUMENT_DB/www/anleitungen/180627_anl_01.pdf and Once I had a similiar one from POLA LGB and it was not placed in the water. Perhaps try it outside the layout connect the Pump to the hoses and to an AC source and mark the direction on the Pump. Cheers Andy
PS.: one side seams to be thicker, that should be the entry side.
Wish I could help, but I am sure it is not self priming. The Faller car magnets are 22 volt dc or ac. Not sure if that would carry through to this. Rob
Rob McCrain Thanks Rob, yeah it’s a strange one, the pump doesn’t seem to stay on when connected to the power, but if keep touching the wires together on and off it revs up briefly and then stops again, but nothing with constant power? Think I may have received a dud perhaps? Cheers, Dan
I can’t help sorry
I’m a noob at modeling
Austinplayz765 No worries, may have to keep experimenting, fingers crossed!
The Suction pipe must remain constantly submerged in water cheers Robert
Sorry Dan, all my thoughts have been suggested already. Be sure to let us know when you get it sorted out. David.
Hi David, no worries at all, will do. It'll be great to finally get the water going in the model, cheers :)
some pumps need to be primed first . submerge it in water , i am sure you did that. so make sure the pump is full of water also.
sparky107107 Thanks Sparky, Yep gave it a go but no luck. May be faulty? I’ll try a different power pack on it tomorrow also. Thanks for the help 👍🏻
As much as I would love to help, I have no experience with that product. Would contacting your local swimming pool maintenance people help. Cheers GregMerry Christmas Dan and thanks for all your videos during 2018
Greg Hale Thanks Greg, I may have to keep having a play around with it. Merry Christmas to you and yours also, and thanks for your support this year 😃
Sorry Dan carnt help ..
David Howarth Thanks Dave, yeah it’s a strange one. I’ll keep having a play, otherwise I may try a cheap windshield wiper motor as has been suggested 👍🏻