Woodturning: Apple Jack - Turning Apple Wood
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- Woodturning: Apple Jack - Turning Apple Wood
In this video I take a piece of apple log and turn it into a natural edge bowl / vessel.
And I got my tail center stuck in the tailstock quill. Again.
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Love the apple jack bowl. Bailey is the cutest beagle ever.
Thanks Jean! He is a beautiful boy ❤️
The color on that after you added the shellac is jaw dropping. Chef’s kiss.
Thanks Rob! Apple is very pretty for sure!
Beautiful simply beautiful
Thanks Dallas! I really like it 😁
Beautiful! Miss your videos and Bailey.
Thanks Dianne, I’m glad to be back in the shop!
That turned out fabulous!!!
Bailey did too 🤗
Thanks Ginger. Bailey is a pretty good boy ❤️
Bailey is so cute! I love beagles. My Grandaddy had beagles. They have the cutest puppies!!
Thanks Nancy, they are the cutest things!
Well done Lisa! I'm definitely digging Apple Jack!
Thanks man, he’s pretty cool isn’t he!? Love those gnarly pieces 😁
I would never have thought of using leather. What a great idea along with the quills. Love watching your videos.
Thanks Lacey, I’m glad you’re enjoying the projects! I really want to make each one just a bit unique if I can 😁
Great job again Lisa. Good to see you again.
Thanks Ron!
I just want to thank you for your method of finding the position of balance prior to turning. I learned a very good lesson
Hi Wayne, I’m glad you found it useful 😁
Agreed. Learned something new today!
Wow! Thats is absolutely gorgeous!
Thanks Mike! It came out really nicely 😁
THAT IS AMAZING HOW YOU MADE THAT BOWL KEEP UP THE FANTASTIC JOB WELL TAKE CARE AND STAY SAFE AND I HOPE YOU AND YOUR FAMILY AND FRIENDS HAVE A AWESOME DAY KEEP THE WOOD CHIPS FLYING SEE YOU ON THE VIDEO LATER MY FRIEND
Thanks for stopping by Curtis!
Love this one!
Thanks Brad, me too!
Heck yeah that's beautiful have a great weekend ✌️
Thanks!
Fantastic looking bowl
Thanks Joey!
Lisa, that is so gorgeous! I just turned 2 large Cherry Burls. When I see how beautiful Apple wood is, I want to cut down my Apple tree and turn the wood.
Thanks Carol! Cool thing about apple from orchards is how funky they prune them so you get lots of wild grain patterns especially around the branches, and bark inclusions and all kinda cool stuff!
ALL HAIL APPLE JACK!
Right!? 😃
I used too love woodwork at school , really wish i followed it up . 62 now and thinking of buying a wood turning lathe .
It’s the most fun I’ve ever had, and I love all the woodworking. But turning is just the bomb!
Beautiful bowl Lisa
Thanks Glenn!
That’s one lump of punky , wrinkly, awkward bumpy piece of wood you tackled there Lisa. We don’t have trees as big as your branches here in 🇬🇧. You did a great job
Thank you Stephen!
Love that bowl, it looks awesome.
Thanks Andy!
I think Apple Jack would look fantastic with a tea light or other low watt light in it. Pretty cool though.
Indeed, Jim! Particularly around All Hollow’s Eve 😁
Wow! Beautiful!
Thanks Dick!
Different one for you....great job!
Thanks Pam!
Very nice bowl Lisa looks great!
Thanks Mikk!
Well done.
Thank you Jason
great job lisa xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Thanks Mark!
Way cool. I like that.
Thanks Ken!
Lisa I agree with you that it is the live center . I have the same issue with my 24/36 other centers eject just fine. Thanks for the content.
Well I’m sorry you’re having the same problem but I am glad it’s not just me 😂
It’s too bad cuz the live center is really nice and if I don’t apply much pressure it will come out, but it doesn’t play nice if I have to help seat the spur drive. And it’s the only cup center I have so I may have to look at getting a new one
Looking good Lisa. Apple usually is pretty wood to turn. This is no exception. Well done.
Thanks Doug! I didn’t get to turn much of it, but what I did was just lovely!
great job
Thanks Mark!
Your Apple Jack hollow form is a very appealing eye-catcher, Lisa. Ya done good!
Thank you Noah, I’m glad you like it😁
Hi Lisa, good to see you back in the shop, given the problems that really turned out a neat piece, worth keeping as a conversation piece!!. Bailey seems to be living his best life! Keep safe.C
Thanks Clive I’m really pleased 😁
Thanks for the shoutout! My former mechanic brain tells me to get a brass punch or brass stock Is fine and use a decent size hammer and the live center will pop right out. I wish my General had a hollow tailstock so I could use a knockout bar like you can. Where the handle screws onto the shaft, drill a hole for the set screw to sit in and it shouldn’t come loose when torquing on it. What this a green or dry piece of apple? It sure is pretty. Hope this helps. Jim
Hey Jim! This is pretty dry which contributed to me taking a bit of a beating 😂
The knockout bar that comes with the Laguna (for the headstock) has a brass tip and I used a biggish ball peen hammer. Another viewer said the knockout rod is too long and is absorbing some of the force so I’ll have to see what I can find that’s shorter and use a bigger hammer. It’s been stuck before and I’ve always been able to beat it out but this time I got it in there goooooood 🙄
@@LisaRamlowIf it’s not metal on metal your probably not going to get the right amount of shock through the rod to remove the live center. My lathe came with a knockout bar that has a plastic end on it and never use it. Give the brass rod a try, safe turning!
Heat usually helps loosen metal parts. I would try a propane torch evenly around the extended tail stock to get it to expand. Once you get that center out, coat the taper with sharpie all around and then put it in and out a few times and check if it rubs off evenly around and down the taper. If there is only a shiny ring or high spots, that could be the problem. You might be able to polish off any problem areas or just get another one. Beautiful grain on that piece - a very nice job as usual. Glad to have you back!
Thank you Art, I’m gonna try all the things!
I agree with the heat pump idea, it shouldn’t take a lot, jet get it barely too hot to you hand I bet it pops right out
Apple Jack is a beautiful piece of art. Well done and Welcome back!
Thanks Crystal! We had a blast but I’m glad to be home and back in the shop
Beautiful bowl Lisa! Sorry about your live center issues… I’m still having tool rest (post not tightening enough!) issues myself! Ha! Take care and hope it works out! ✌️❤️🍻🖖
Thanks Jack, I did finally get it! Do you have a Laguna as well?
You sure give yourself a challenge, with that weird chunk of wood, but then you problem-solve your way through it! I have an apple trunk that’s been drying for a year now, and I must say, I hope it looks as beautiful as yours when it’s finally turned into a bunch of bowls.
Do be aware that apple, like cherry, has a tendency to crack so cut it right before you plan to turn it and definitely seal the end grain of you rough out blanks. Seems like the fruit woods can be a little tricky sometimes
Hi Lisa I really like this piece I seem to like the ones that have wholes in them I did one that I won't sell, Keep it up
Thanks Ron, me too - the gnarlier the better!
For your stuck tailstock I would use a tie rod removal tool. It is designed to do exactly as you want it work on car part repairs. It is a gradual taper and will not mar your tools when used correctly. Love the vid.
Thank you Todd, I’ll look into it 👍
I was just in Bozeman! Visiting family in Great Falls Montana. Sure was nice in October there.
Oh I bet! It was crazy hot when we were there but it was amazing!
welcome back. awesome bowl and you need new jeans 😊
Thanks Chris! Yeah, this is the only pair I have at the e moment cuz I’m too fat for all the others I have 🤣
Beautiful bowl. Love the Bailey videos. She/He reminds me of our Flossie dog ( half Newfy, half German Shepherd). My first hollow form was an urn for her ashes.
Hi James! I’m glad you’re enjoying the channel and Bailey sez he appreciates that you appreciate his cameos 🐾. I have 2 urns to make for friends and family - definitely the worst part of being a pet owner but they sure do bring a lot of joy while they’re with us
Beautiful bowl Lisa! Been missing your videos!!
I’m glad to be back and I’m glad you’re enjoying the channel!
great....job!
Thanks!
Beautiful bowl!!!
Thanks Diane, I appreciate it 😃
Nice bowl Lisa. Your pup sure was intent on his squirrel studies. About the stuck live center, steel knockout bar and a big enough hammer will take it out. I do not know what you have available for a shop table set-up but ...... I'd take the tail stock off the lathe and try punching it out in the vertical. Pour a little bit of Kroil or another penetrating oil in there and let is sit a spell. Let gravity help you and the hammer knock it out. Thanks for posting! Take Care!
Thanks Mike! Bailey does like to watch the rodents, that’s for sure! I have lots of things to try on the love center - hopefully I’ll have a chance next week.
Gorgeous bowl and I believe I would get rid of that live center if it gives you that much trouble! Or you could leave it in there permanently & get a second tailstock for everything else! Good luck either way.
Thanks Leigh! I’ve got a new one on my wish list. It’s too bad cuz this is a nice center but that’s just ridiculous!
Very nice applejack. Apple is difficult to work with and beautiful. For removing your live center, check with an auto mechanic, a ball joint separator fork may be the answer. Clean and polish both members when you do get them separated.
Thanks Bill, I’ll look into that 👍
That is an absolutely gorgeous piece!
Thank you!
Beautiful apple jack bowl Lisa. I have a similar problem with my live centre on my 50 year old delta lathe. I use a square shank screwdriver between the live centre and my tail stock quill and back it in as far as it will go, then give a sharp push on the screwdriver handle toward the head stock. The live centre always comes out with this method although yours seems to be in there much more solid. Good luck solving your problem.
Thanks Jack! Imma try all the things cuz this has to come out of there!
One of your best pieces, Lisa. I love it.
Thanks Louis, i really like it too 😁
Our tail stock has the same issue. I lay the 1 1/4" scraper on the top just like you had the wood. It works well
Is it a Laguna live center? Another viewer with a Laguna 24/36 said he had the same issue with his and I wonder if it’s a manufacturing issue. I don’t think I have a scraper that big but I did try the flat part of a big pry bar and it still wouldn’t budge. Got it stuck good I guess 😬
@@LisaRamlow No we have a Power Matic
@@LisaRamlow Have you tried a bag of ice? It will shrink the steel? Maybe enough to loosen it
It's awesome. I like the natural holes and knots that you left. Turned out very nice.
Thanks Michael!
That bowl turned out stunning. I really like every thing about it. I always enjoy the Bailey bits. I look forward to seeing how you manage to get the tail stock loose.
Winners never quit and Quitters never win. Keep moving forward.
Thanks Dale. I haven’t had a chance to work on the tailstock yet but I’ll let you guys know how it goes
nice piece! I just turned my first piece of apple burl from a farm in Poland Springs Maine and it came out nice. Lots of grain variation and some branch inclusion.
Hi Edward! Yes, the pieces from an orchard are pruned so funky that you get lots of weird grain patterns and bark inclusions. Good stuff!
Like the bowl, looked hard work but really nice end result. Sorry not got any suggestion for tail stock issue. 😊
Thanks Ann, I did end up getting out eventually!
That turned out awesome Lisa! 👏 I think your Dog would like to have that squirrel 🐿 😂 Thank you for sharing!
Bailey definitely wouldn’t liked for him to come down and play. We have red squirrels and chipmunks at home and he watches them run past the sliding glass doors all day. I think they’ve figured out they are safe from him and will like stop right in front and stand up on their hind legs, taunting him 😂
No way! I was in the Sawtooth range at the same time! I was starting out on various trail heads in the Boulder River valley, doing some survey work for the forest service
We were camped in the Murdock campground. I freaking love it out there-might be one of my all time favorite places. And we only saw a tiny bit of the area around Ketchum since we were tied up Fri-Sun at the Sun Valley Art Show
She’s back and what a return. I love these types of pieces. Way to go Lisa.
Hey Gerry! Agreed - the gnarlier it looks in the beginning, the better I like it in the end. Usually 😂
I think if you put a soft light in it, it’s then called a luminary.
And they are on my list to light several paths in my private forest.
Beautiful bowl, Lisa! Great to have you back in your shop. Hope you report back how you got the tail center out. Thanks!
Thanks Greg!
Nice to see you back Lisa. Very nicely done. I like the project a lot. However boy was there a lot of hangout with that block Maybe that contributed to the chatter. Wow that taper must be off on that live center or nicked or burrs? Just a thought. Thanks again!
Hey John! The long glue block could have contributed but it was singing between centers too so I think the worst of it was just from the cracks and voids. I really think the issue is just this tail center, and another Laguna owner (24/36) said he has the same issue. All the other centers eject properly, but this one just doesn’t reach to engage or something though I didn’t think about the taper being off 🤔. I’ve checked for nicks and burrs but everything feels smooth. Unfortunately this is the only cup center I have so I guess I’m gonna have to look for a new one. The OneWay centers are supposed to be really nice, though they are pricey 😬
Glad your back! I hope you both had an amazing time.
Apple Jack is a pretty handsome bowl. The finish turned out beautifully.
Absolutely beautiful work!
Thanks Tanya! Imma take the sweet smelling apple shavings over what you turned earlier 🤣
@@LisaRamlow I think I'd prefer the sweet smelling apple as well🤣🤪
Incredible piece, Lisa! Really glad to see you back.
My last slave had a finicky tail stalk and it was not designed to eject the factory live center but it did conveniently did eject the Jacob's chuck and I think that's because it had a longer Morse 2 taper on it. Now, my 12 16 has been great but the quill gets very stiff when retracting or extending, when mostly retracted. The demo I was sold 1st had a whole bunch of problems because it was treated very roughly. It has the same issues but others and with it, it was the threads of the set screw on the handwheel that stripped out. The same thing as you found, I was cranking it as hard as I could to get it to retract and it was the aluminum that failed and there was obviously noticeable wear on the flat spot of the actuator. Either way, I learned not to force anything because I'm more likely to jam it up or damage something than to free it up. That said, I've had to beat a Jacob's Chuck out of the tail stock of my old lathe with a knockout bar and a mallet so I know what you were going through. :)
Hi Jay! Yes, I agree about forcing it. I put a reasonable amount of pressure on the handwheel but I feel for the set screw slipping and then stop. Don’t want to actually break it, it’s out of warranty now! I’m hesitant to beat on it too hard but not much choice at the moment. I’m using the brass-tipped knockout bar that came with the lathe but some have said it’s too long and isn’t transferring all of the blow from the ball peen hammer 🤷♀️. Frustrating as hell but I’ll get it out one way or another 😁
@@LisaRamlow I understand. Applying just enough pressure in just the right way to just the right spot. I hope you find a consistent solution.
Wow, that bowl is amazing! I love the open spots and the grain is beautiful. I had a live center stick in my tailstock once, I ended up clamping a pair of vice grips on the center and beat them with a mallet until the center broke free. Not the best solution I'm sure, but it did work. Good luck with yours!
Thanks John! I haven’t had a chance to get back to it yet but I’ll let you guys know how it gors
Gorgeous bowl have care of Voice
Thank you!
@@LisaRamlow you welcome
Beautiful Bowl, love the color and grain patterns, as far as your tail stock I think some heat applied evenly around the tail stock should help loosen it and then I would quit using it and get another one! Well done and thanks
Cheers Al
Hi Al! Yes, a bummer cuz this is a nice live center and the only one I have that is a cup center, but this is ridiculous. And not the first time it’s happened.
My friend has the same issue on her One Way lathe with just one piece. She puts a tool between the handle crank and the tail stock slide that is wide enough to back up on so the crank never reaches its “bottom out” position, giving you extra space to loosen your live center. Give it a shot.
Hi Michael! I did try that, among a lot of other things😂 but it didn’t work either. Ended up getting it out by heating it with a torch and then cooling it off quickly with an ice pack.
Apple Jack is a fine specimen. Nice work!
On the stuck centre, try a shorter knockout bar - that one will be flexing a lot when you hit it. A heat gun might be useful too. Is there another flat on the other side of the screw for another set screw? Try getting a long spanner/wrench to get some leverage.
After you get it out, inspect the inside of the tailstock taper as well as the live centre taper - if there's any scoring or damage that might be what's causing it to stick.
Scritches for Bailey!
Thank you! Haven’t had time to mess with the live center again yet but I have lots of things to try. And Bailey sez he appreciates the fact that you recognize beagles need many, many scritches. 🐾
The pressure from the wood block, and a tap with the bar might work, and a new live Center if that is the only one giving you a problem. If you switched, and put it in the headstock, does it still stick? Love the piece
Thanks Scott! It doesn’t always stick in the tailstock, only when I crank on it. I think the shaft is just a hair too short. Haven’t had a chance to work on it anymore yet but I’ll get it out and then won’t do that again!
Lisa, I have the same problem with a few of my tailstock pieces. The problem is that the shaft on the piece is just a bit too short. The wood is in the right direction but just not sturdy enough. I have a 2" wide homemade parting tool that I lay on top of the piece as you did with the wood and turn the wheel and the pressure will cause the piece to eject. I wish I could draw you a picture. This was very frustrating to me but this is a simple solution.
Hi Willie! I know what you’re saying - I tried to use the flat shaft of a big pry bar as a wedge and I was still moving the set screw back on the shaft flat. I think I’m gonna have to beat it out and then get a different cup center. This one is ok as long as I don’t put too much pressure on it - it must be just a hair too short to engage and while it seems the further in the shaft goes, the more likely it is that it *would* self eject, but I think the taper is so tight it can’t punch it out. Very frustrating indeed but we shall persevere! 😁
@@LisaRamlow Hi Lisa, PLEASE be careful beating that center out, if you mushroom the end you will really have a problem getting it out. I have been saving my nickels and dimes to buy your same lathe but then 16 days in the hospital and three surgeries, which included an amputation, I'm back to saving. Please let me/us know when you find a solution.
A wonderful bowl Lisa, I love it. You could try heating the outer shaft with a gas torch while using the knock out bar and hammer? Perhaps a little anti-seize compound can help avoid the problem happening again? Thank you for the live centre balancing tip, that's a brilliant idea. It's always good to see what Bailey is up to, please give him a neck rub for me.
Thank you John, and a Bailey sez he appreciates the fact that you realize beagles need many, many neck rubs and belly scritches 🐾
🙂 I also meant to mention that apple wood is wonderful for smoking chicken and pork so save the shavings or maybe sell them?
Great decorative bowl. I bought the 1836 in March and it’s a huge improvement but the tail stock live center seems to “wiggle”. Maybe it is me and I’m doing something wrong. Hope you get it out.
How old is your lathe? Laguna has been great about warranty replacements
@@LisaRamlow March 2022. Thanks for the reminder, I’ll test it out some more and if no change contact them.
Advice on the tail stock issue. Get a shorter, and if possible, fatter knock out bar because the long factory one absorbs too much of the hammer blow. Use a 4lb sledge to hit the knock out bar. When you do get the cone out, make sure it’s tapered shaft is smooth and polish if necessary to reduce friction. Or just trash it and get another. Hope this helps.
Stuart
PS. Nice… apple Jack 😁
Thanks Stuart! I’ve had this problem before and have checked the center and quill for burrs or nicks but it all feels fine. Will see what I can find that is shorter and will use a bigger hammer. I hate to beat on the thing too hard but it’s gotta come out of there!
@@LisaRamlow after almost 20 years in the autobody trade, my motto is if at first you don't succeed, get a bigger hammer! LOL!
You might have to shop around for a short piece of steel rod and look for COLD ROLLED as it will be harder. Make the length no more than two inches over whatever length you need. Good luck!
Driving bearing races out when replacing wheel bearings taught me a couple of lessons about this. First you need steel on steel contact. A straight steel knock out bar without the polymer ball/handle on it, and some heat would be a plus. The steel on steel contact doesnt allow for rebound/dead blow effect.
I'm wondering if your Morris taper on the live center is worn down to the point of chronic jamming. Or maybe some sand paper to rough up the finish on the taper might help the jamming? Btw, howdy young lady! 👍🤝
Hey Mel! I did finally get it out. I dented the end of the knockout bar with the small sledge and the center didn’t even think about coming out. I ended up heating it with a torch and cooking it with a soft ice pack and then I got it to pop loose. It was a struggle! And oh, Hi! 😁
Nice piece. I tend to think that most dogs are part rodent. My daughter's Corgi and my best friend's Pit will scour my shop, even after I cleaned it, and find pieces of wood to chew on, leaving the doggy chew toys alone.....
As for the tail stock quill, I hope you have it out by now. I think there are 2 different lengths of quills on the live centers. Some self eject, and some have to be knocked out. GRRR!!! If you have a mechanic friend, they may have a 'pickle fork' which you can drive between the tailstock and the live center, if it fits. I used some thing similar, and most of the time it works, but once I pushed the cone off of the live center. I have used router wrenches which are thin enough to put between the end of the quill and the live center cone and pry it out that way. Most of the time this works as long as I haven't put it in with a lot of brute strength.... Some will use a torch to heat the quill up a bit, but I have no torch skills, other than for setting off fireworks....Hope it is not rusted into place.
Hey Reed! I did finally get it out, I heated it up with a torch and then cooled it off with a soft ice pack. PITA for sure. Gotta order another one that I can use with a little pressure.
Bailey doesn’t come in the shop - I’ve tried to get him to hang oil it with me but he just can’t settle down. Plus, there’s no cushy sofa in the shop 🤣
Beautiful bowl Lisa! I know nothing about Laguna's, unfortunately.
I have been looking at upgrading my lathe, and have been thinking about a Laguna. But now, I'm not so sure!
What kind of customer service do they have?
Their customer service is fantastic. Only issues I’ve had were with the tailstock and they took care of it quickly and easily. This is just the shaft on the live center is a tiny bit shorter and it won’t hit the stop inside the quill that self-ejects it. Only this live center does that so I need to either get a new one or figure out if there’s a way to use some sort of spacer or something. Don’t let that scare you away - all the lathe manufacturers have issues of one kind of another, and I’m very happy with this lathe especially at the price point, which granted was a little less when I bought mine in 2020, but they have all gone up.
@@LisaRamlow My first lathe, an ancient Rockwell, wouldn't eject anything from the quill. I turned a dowel that would snug up inside the quill at about the depth of live centers. The snug fit kept it from falling out. I pressed a half-inch length of that into the quill and had no more trouble ejecting anything.
Your problem is obviously the live center and not the lathe. I'd just stick a loose scrap of dowel inside the quill every time I used that live center.
This bowl is fantastic and the wood is awesome its got some lovely grain and lovely colour, I all so like the nooks and grannies it's got in it. The finish is gorgeous. What was it like to turn hun as it looked hard? I like the way you explain everything you are doing its really useful thank you for a great video. Glad to see you back. Baily looked likehe had a lot of fun. Amanda from Scotland UK x
Thanks Amanda! It really wasn’t much harder than anything else I turn, once I got then branches out of the way 😂
Is that Jack of Nightmare Before fame ? His features sure fit the scale of the piece. Loving it Lisa !! The only thought I have for the tailstock sticky is a tie-rod spreader. Or some sort of gear puller perhaps ? Keep 'em coming. Take care. -Mike p.s. was Bailey's surname Tucker ? as in tuckerd out !!
Hello my friend! It kinda turned out that way, didn’t it!? I’m really happy with this one - want sure it was gonna be viable at all and to come away with a gorgeous piece makes all the fussing around with it! Ended up hearing the live center with a torch and then cooling it off with a soft ice pack and it came out. What a pain though! Bailey is definitely starting to slow down - he’s just now 5 and a year ago he would still be bouncing off the walls after our adventures. Now he has a little spurt of energy once he’s inside in the bed and then WHAM! He’s out. Just like a little kid 😂
@@LisaRamlow Ha ha, keep up the good work Mom ! Lol !
Very beautiful job , it would be helpful if you could include links to channels you recommend. Thanks
Hi Brad! I actually did put cards in the video at the point I’m talking about Lyle and Jim’s channel, and I think I put them in the description as well…the cards should show up in the top right corner of the screen and will take you to either the video or channel I’ve linked.
Apple Jack turned out to be a nice piece of applethree after all. Very nice and spectacular bowl you made. I like it.
You dont understand tha Baily is preactising picking up wood for you to turn ? Soon he will come with the big threes like walnut logs and so on. He is such a nice dog. :)
Greetings from
Hans Olav
Thanks Hans Olav! Bailey can carry some good sized branches - I need to make him a yoke and he could drag the trunks out of the woods! 😂
Lisa, I had to make a metal handle to remove one of my live centers, my favorite of course. Not sure how to describe it. A U shape with handle welded at bottom of the swoop?
A short tuning fork? Anyway when it stuck I would put the u shape behind the live center around the Morris tapered prying sidway or hitting with a hammer if need be.
Thanks Buddy. I think I’m gonna try that in conjunction with the knockout bar and see if I can persuade it. I tried just a piece of metal on top of the shaft but it just moved the set screw again. Both things together might get it
@@LisaRamlow I made the U shape to fit snugly around the Morris taper with a 10 inch handle. It's made of 1/4 inch stock and doesn't bend even with a good whack of a hammer. I think you won't have to use the knock out. Good luck.
Beautiful Vessel. I would try spraying the live center shaft with either WD40 or penetrating oil through the hole where the knockout bar goes and as best as I could on the shaft were the live center head spins on the front and letting it sit for a few hours or even overnight then give it another try. I have a similar problem with my Laguna spur drive in the head stock. with that I have been able to lock the headstock and grab the spur drive with a pipe wrench and give it like a 1/2 turn and it comes out after that . Did that twice and I just don't use that spur drive anymore. I have another spur drive and no issues getting that one to pop right out. Possibly you could take the handle off the tail stack and the head off the live center and grab both ends with two different pipe wrenches and give it a spin to free up the live center shaft. Also another trick ? might be to take a large adjustable wrench or pipe wrench and place it behind the live center instead of the wood you were trying to use . Or some kind of metal that is flat to try that trick of prying you were trying with the wood. I dont know if any of that helps but it is a few ideas anyways.
Thanks John! I did try a piece of metal between the quill & center and it just moved the set screw on the flat so I think I’m gonna have to beat it out. I’ll probably try some lube of some sort and see about a shorter knockout bar and a bigger hammer 😬
Always a pleasure to see your videos! Welcome back!
As far as the tail stock goes, "Cant be tight if it's liquid" haha, no but, some heat may allow you enough space to remove it! What live center is that anyway?
I'm always jealous of your abilities to carve out bowls, I have a horrible time with catching my gouge, guess there's some technique I need to learn. Out of curiosity, why did you use a bowl gouge to rough out and not a roughing gouge?
Hey Chris! Very important point - I turned this bowl in cross-grain orientation (grain runs perpendicular to the bed ways) rather than spindle orientation (grain runs parallel with the bed ways). You never want to use a spindle roughing gouge when you are turning something in cross-grain orientation because the tool isn’t strong enough to handle the end grain coming at it. The spindle roughing gouge is a flat piece of metal with the edges rolled up and a flat, rectangular and mounted in the handle. And that tang can snap, especially if you’ve got crazy branches and stuff. So always a bike gouge or carbide tool on cross-grain pieces.
The live center is the Laguna that came with the lathe. It’s a great center aside from the sticking problem but that’s a big enough problem that I’m gonna have to do something else
@@LisaRamlow oh great thanks for the info! I missed the orientation when you were setting up! Best of luck with your jam!
try a ball joint separator. Nice work too.
Good suggestion, thanks!
Lisa that was awesome turning lesson on that Apple Wood. Lisa do you still use the Wood turning tool that I sent you and did you make a Longer Handle for it? Also Lisa have you try a little hair Dryer to get the Wax into the Wood Bowl? Thanks. Please we need more Wood turning. Greg of Ohio
Nice (Very Nice) bowl. PROBLEM: Stuck device in the tail stock-SOLUTION: (Should work) Take your knock-out to the grinder, ever so slightly ,grind in a bevel. This should allow the Knock-out to travel over the obstruction. The obstruction is that the two mating surfaces are starting to wear and have shifted, or one has dropped a fraction. I'm not sure if this is the solution, or the fix, but either way it should work.
Thanks James! I haven’t had a chance to work on the tailstock yet but I’ll let you guys know how it goes 👍
Beautiful Bowl Lisa . I have a question , in one of your past video's you told us about a colored powder to mix with your resin and where you bought it . Could you please let me know ? Thanks in advance .
Hi Jon! I’m not sure which video but I usually use mica powder in resin. You can get it pretty much everywhere - Amazon, Alumilite, Let’s Resin, Woodcraft etc. Just Google mica powder for resin and you’ll have a eleventy-billion options to pick from 😁
@@LisaRamlow Thank you so much . I haven't done resin yet but I have a maple bowl that I started that sill be a good candidate . Thanks again and happy turning .
Lisa I had the same problem with the supplied lice center. The shaft actually jammed because of the force required to break the taper loose. I finally had to disassemble the tailstock to free things up. I buffed the surface coating on a wire wheel, and removed it. Had very little problems since. I have also modified the banjo post clamp to reduce the interference when moving the post in close to the work. How can I send you a picture of the modification? I'm waiting for a relay replacement as my machine will not always start or will stop or shut down.
Dennis Ferguson
Hi Dennis! You can email me at Lisa (at) lisaramlow (dot) com. I have the relay replacement but haven’t installed it yet because it has been behaving itself and I just haven’t had time yet - my air compressor regulator assembly is leaking and I need to replace that too but I never seem to make it very far down my ToDo list 🙄
Lisa ,you could drill a de tent in the shaft,had that trouble with my first lathe,China, thinking your taper is off,so kill it and use a bigger hammer,nice bowl,loved it,be well
Hi Fran! Yes I’m probably going to drill a spot for the set screw, though I don’t plan to use this live center if I need to use the spur drive
I checked on my Laguna using a 2x 4 scrap cut a slot out of the wide side that will just clear the quill but not wide enough to clear the rear of the live center about 1.35 inches slip this over the tail stock then just turn the tail stock just like you would eject the live center it should just pop out
Thanks Don I’ll give it a go!
I love the apple wood video. but I have had better luck getting the live center to eject if you support the center around the shaft Think of a "u" shape so the center has an even support a around If the support is just on one side you are more bending the morse taper (shoving the side wall against the tail stock ) I hope this makes sense.
Hi Don! It does make sense and it tried a couple of big open-end wrenches but didn’t have quite the right size. Lots more things to try though so I’ll get it out of there one way or another!
Pine is soft and will do no damage metat and force might try my way first then plastic then brass
work your way up
Only thing I can think of is if you can find some way to make the parts cold and shrink a touch.
Yeah, heating it easy but how to make it cold it a hurry is not. I haven’t had a chance to work on the tailstock yet but I’ll let you guys know when I get it
@@LisaRamlow you could put the whole tailstock in the freezer 😁
Excellent! And if you ever get tired of Bailey... I'm just sayin'...
Ha! I have to be honest, we almost killed him on several occasions when he was young. We adopted him at 4.5 months old - nobody “loses” a puppy and doesn’t go looking for it! He was quite a monster, but mostly because he has so much energy. He’s 5 now and has matured into an amazingly good dog and we did not see that coming! 😂
Oops, I meant between the live center and the front of the tail stock, but she uses a flat metal piece, not wood.
I knew what you meant 😉
i have the same issue with my live center i broke the plastic ball off my knock out bar with a deadblow hammer getting it out but i got it with applied knowledge i plan to oil it with not wd40 see if it helps (wd40 is not good to use long term for rust protection or lubrication on machined surfaces )
My knockout bar has a brass tip but I think it’s too long. Gonna see about a shorter one and possibly hearing it up and then cooling to see if it’ll go. Super frustrating!
@@LisaRamlow you could try air but if you do please be careful because it will fly out like a bullet out of a gun when it comes out
Use the knockout bar.
Yeah, have been but it seems like it might be too long so I’m gonna try to find a shorter piece of brass stock or something and use an even bigger hammer 😬
@@LisaRamlow @PatCarroll talks about this and I think he had a small insert made to screw into the back of the shaft so the automatic eject will work on it.
Do you ever come to the art show here in Ludington?
Hey Cyndy! Marie used to do the Ludington show but hasn’t in a few years. I don’t do shows with my work cuz I can’t make a big enough inventory to make that an option. Plus I am my own worst salesman 🙄🤣
@@LisaRamlow I can relate!
I think you need a larger knockout bar. That just looks way too skinny.
It’s the only one I have, and the one that came with the lathe. But some have suggested finding a shorter one so I’ll see what I can do. The hole isn’t a ton bigger than that one, but if it’s only just longer than the quill and hand wheel, maybe it’ll be ok
8 pound sledge hammer.
Hi Ronnie! Yeah, gonna have to use a bigger hammer. Haven’t had a chance to get back to it yet but I’ll keep you guys posted
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If I hear a loud explosion I will know where it came from.