eh, yeah i remember back then so.. add +100$ to get Ti (Tiny Improvement) and add another +100$ to get 16gb version and then add another +100$ to get... 12gb vram....? oh well ofcourse with huge...improvement...right?
@@nurbsivonsirup1416 Imagine Upgrading from the GTX-580, then upgrading to an RX-580, and now upgrading to an Arc B580. At the release of the newer card, was the last time the previous card was actually worthwhile. Also, you can say: "I've had a 580 as my graphics card since 2010."
Intel Arc today still depends on fucking DXVK to run the majority of games which you need to download from Github and use manually in every game you play. AMD has AFMF2 which is frame generation for ANY game at the same price point and less and doubles your frame rates in every title with low latency. Intel is bringing nothing here and anyone buying it is a moron
You gotta love more competition. Even if this doesn’t sell like hotcakes, it hopefully will encourage Nvidia and AMD to release their next gen cards at more reasonable prices. And if they don’t, I hope Intel absolutely dominates the mid range market. Looking forward to real reviews
I agree. Battlemage / Xe2 was already present as an iGPU in Lunar Lake, where it was quite good according to reviews. So this might well repeat for a dedicated GPU. Anyway, 12 GB likely makes the card more future proof than any 8 GB card, even the Intel GPU is somewhat weaker.
@@raikaru0 the 890m is a little bit ahead of the 140v, but not by much and the Strix APU needs to consume more power than the Lunar Lake APU to convincingly beat it. Tbough in fairness to AMD, the 890m isn't really intended for 15w handhelds and super thin laptops like Lunar Lake is.
@@charmingpeasant9834 according to the intel showcase they had for the b580, there's super sampling and frame gen that uses ai to increase fps 3 fold lol. but that's taking their word for it, card is launching on the 13th of december, so let's see what the actual benchmarks will be. if it's as shown in the showcase, this is definitely going to be like the good ol days where you can get decent settings, decent fps, for a relatively low price.
XeSS is already good and even better on their own cards, this is an improved version of that meaning DLSS level quality + now having framegen and antilag + 12GB of vram all for 250 seems real good in todays market getting a better 4060 with more vram for that price
I have the Intel arc A770 and overall I've been pleased with it but I still get infuriating driver update problems. I wish Intel luck with these Battlemage new cards
What I really wanna see is a card with 3090ti levels of performance and 32GB of memory for $700, no matter who makes it. And good support for AI workloads.
It won't effect the company too much, their GPU business is simply too small. Arrow Lake's flop was the big blow which got Pat fired, they needed that success more than ever.
Pat costed Intel billions just by opening his mouth about Taiwan. They gave him time to try and steer the ship after that blunder and he failed, he had to go out.
Even my RTX 3080 10GB is running out of VRAM on some games now. Playing on 1440p ultrawide and when I have multiple TH-cam tabs open and textures are pushed high I can start running out of VRAM and have to turn down settings due to massive FPS drops. Plan on getting a 5080 or 4090 depending on the prices and performance of the new Nvidia cards.
"Playing on 1440p ultrawide and when I have multiple TH-cam tabs open and textures are pushed high" Solution: close those multiple TH-cam tabs and focus on the game you are playing.
@@user-ic6xf Maybe they don't. According to the Steam hardware survey, the majority of people use 8GB or less, 47% of the people have a video card with 6GB or 8GB VRAM, and the RTX 4060 is among the more popular video cards.
So building a nice sub $600 system is now a thing. If the RT performance is near rtx 4060ti and good framerates, it'd be a nice EGpu for certain handhelds.
apparently it's better than the 4060 i think but not as good as the 4060ti. more closer towards the 4060 than the ti. not sure if it's just normal fps or with RT on.
11:20 Exactly, that's my main problem with most benchmarks on TH-cam. Pairing components that would never be used together in a realistic build is in my opinion pointless for the end user. The only upside is avoiding all possible bottlenecks at the time of the review, because I'm pretty sure a 1080ti would perform quite better now with a 7800x3D compared to what was available at the time of its release. I think pure performance benchmark with the best available CPU still have a place, but for budget GPUs especially, realistic budget/midrange builds should be considered. What is the point of presenting a 250$ GPU in a 1800$ rig.
I have just built a PC based on 9800x3d but I am waiting for the GPU releases. In theory, I may be the recipient of the B580 to wait for the prices of more powerful GPUs from the competition to stabilize! :)
Watching this discussion jogged something into place. I took another look at the B580 cards, finally noticing the 8 bit PCiE-4 interface on two of the ASRock cards. I'd been itching to try using all three available PCIE 5.0 SSD slots on my upcoming build, hesitant because using more than the first pcie 5 SSD slot crunched the GPU card's datapath from 16 to 8 bits. Hoping I'm not hugely misinterpreting the meaning of all this and that it's not just a misprint. So thanks!
Yea it’s something like that , I can’t even try these cards out since their dumb pcie lanes , essentially if you don’t have pcie 5.0 it runs at half it’s bandwidth unlike pcie4
They have the best media encoders on the market. You honestly shouldn't be looking at anything else for a media server. But a B580 is overkill for that, unless you have tons of 4k streams going at once. An A310, A380, or maybe an A580 would be plenty, and they're much cheaper.
@ yeah? Thank you! I have a wall of 4k discs I want to rip full isos of. I am still learning. I thought about building a small tower with a drive to do the rips and then just plunking it behind my router after that.
Is there a decent company out there assembling Intel PCs? A small gaming pc with a modern i7 and this B580 plus 16gb ram and a small ssd? Could run around $700usd retail before discounts and be a great little starter pc.
FYI, while the price on paper is very good, in reality it might be different. Sure in the US you might be able to buy this GPU at that price, but if it is like Alchemist, then the price for Intel GPU in my country will be much more expensive. A770 16GB was supposed to be $330. In my country it is like $500 at minimum. This is exceeding the typical 20%-ish tax. During that time I can buy 6700XT 12GB at a cheaper price. For Battlemage, Sparkle already announced their Battlemage lineup with 2 model, the B580 and B570. Their B580 cost $20 more than the reference Intel model. Yes, it is an OC model, but they didn't sell non OC model. Their B570 cost $10 more.
up to you, i was using a 1060 up until last month when it blew up lol. i was able to play most games on varous settings between low to high depending on the fps i was comfortable with at 1440p (non native). i was going to get a rx 7900 gre, but decided to wait and see in jan what the new amd and nvidia cards are gonna be like. apparently according to rumors, the 8800xt is supposed to be as good as the 4080 in terms of ray tracing lol. also depends what the prices are. if you are happy with your fps or if you want more fps : p also depends on your cpu and stuff. my 1060 was bottlenecked for a while when i got it cos i was using an old i3 cpu lol.
These cards are aimed at the low-to-mid range 40 Series equivalents, so you're looking at a solid three-generation jump in performance. It really comes down to what works for you. I was on the fence about waiting for the 50 Series, but after seeing the rumored prices, I went with the 7900XTX instead, and honestly, no regrets whatsoever. Intel’s pricing is super competitive right now, and AMD is about to drop their updated mid-range cards. If nothing else, I’d say hold off a bit to see what AMD brings to the table first before pulling the trigger. Don't forget to upgrade your other components accordingly.
Ray tracing killed that lower middle market. It's almost not worth having anything unless it's at least 4080 level. Even then that's not always enough.
A lot of media has emerged showing that Raytracing still isn't producing superior results in the majority of implementations - and the performance penalty just isn't worth it yet. Certainly in this performance envelope it isn't worth the bother. Not yet.
250$ to get 12gb vram with bunch of great features the only cons was only the driver.. maybe? but driver can be updated, so it won't be a huge problem, only take a while to fix by them
The driver support being bad makes me very weary of this brand.. when a hot new game drops that everyone is playing, nobody wants to wait weeks or possibly months to be able to play it..
@@smittyvanjagermanjenson182 the cases where the game launches without driver optimization is more to do with the developer not bothering to optimize for Arc, or them not inviting Intel to send in a few people to make sure it runs decently. Or with UE5 games, it's because Alchemist has hardware inefficiencies that particularly affect UE5 and nanite, but Battlemage is supposed to fix this.
Finally! 4000 Class GPUs for the masses, I am actually quite happy about that, these $1000-2000+ dollar GPUs should NOT become the norm. AMD and Intel are taking very wise moves in this deparment.
AMD doesn't want to compete in the high-end market. Intel has next to nothing for GPU reputation, so they can't afford to scare customers. Like they did with their piss poor CPUs Nvidia is the only brand I want, because they are the furthest ahead, making their cards to support the full suite of graphical features and not just stuffing the cards with more VRAM while hoping they can ignore RT and UE5 for a long as they can get away with..
@@smittyvanjagermanjenson182ue5 sucks and most raytrace can be written into the game , Ai raytracing is lazy and is only made to benefit nvidia , if devs wanted to add raytrace with little graphical hits they would like they have before
It seems for all intents and purposes performance wise it seems like Intel created their own version of the AMD 6700 line but with way better ray tracing and ai cores for around the price of a 6750XT, at least on the rare occasion they're actually in stock somewhere anyways. That didn't sound impressive at first, but the more I think about that's actually quite the feat. It's nice just to see a budget priced 1440p card and to get some competition in the budget and mid range space. Hopefully Intel is pretty much done with their GPU teething issues since Alchemist eventually became pretty good on anything not UE5. At this rate, I might actually buy a Celestial card to upgrade when those come around. As it stands though I'm still happy with my discrete PS5 aka my 6700 10gb.
It looks like it WILL be the new best choice. 12 gb vram with a $239 price and low power consumption👍 If it's good it will shake up the market. Nvidia's stranglehold on the market NEEDS to be stopped
16GB on my 4080 is not enough for Flight Simulator 2024. Performance is enough hitting 80-100fps, but after two hours the memory is full and framerate drops to 20. I wish I haven't sold my 7900XTX. Much more futureproof card. Another game which maxed out the 16GB is Alan Wake 2. Edit. I play on 5120x3440 resolution which has 10% less pixels than 4K.
only problem with Intel video are that it misleads in several parts there so they say 24% over Arc 750 and then 25% over rx 7600 and 4060 even reality are that Arc 750 perform pretty bad vs both Nvidia and amd cards and are 15-20% behind in most of games so what will be in reality !!? probably 5-10% at best over this two cards
Can’t even try these out due to its dumb pcie interface , Unless you have a pcie gen 5 motherboard these cards won’t perform as well something like over 20% difference
people dont seem to realize inflation has effectively made ~200 dollar cards the new "under 100" category, that price point where anyone reasonable for the past 2 decades just told you to buy used instead, and soon enough that will be the 300-400 range
*Intel are you serious?* Why would we buy new gen Intel over AMD for the same price and performance of old Amd gen Gpu?? Come on ... Make it $150 for B580 we might think about it!
@xyr3s I would just get the 6750xt with better performance for a tiny bit more. And its AMD not untrustworthy Intel. And we are talking about super Old gpu. New gen Intel suppose to be better deal with better performance. Imagine if Amd release 8000 series with the same performance and same price Gpus.
@@ryanspencer6778 as I see you dont watch Hardware unboxed chanel , you would know more about Xess. You need to use worse tier upscaler to achieve the same level Fps like Fsr or Dlss. If Fsr Quality = Xess Balanced . Fsr balanced = Xess Performance. And in that case Xess looks worse almost in every game. Besides Intel B580 is not 4060ti but in the middle between 4060-4060ti.
@@genasgenas and I see you're someone that hasn't used an Arc card. What you said is true, sort of, for when you use XeSS on AMD or Nvidia. However, when you use XeSS on Intel hardware, it runs much faster and there's no significant performance hit compared to DLSS or FSR, while the image quality is very comparable to DLSS.
Big shame on Nvidia for making the 4060 and 4060TI 8GB VRAM , if they hadn't receive any pushback the 4060TI 16GB version wouldn't exist .
eh, yeah i remember back then
so.. add +100$ to get Ti (Tiny Improvement)
and add another +100$ to get 16gb version
and then add another +100$ to get... 12gb vram....? oh well ofcourse with huge...improvement...right?
people still buy them like crazy, so why would they give them more vram...
They almost assuredly released it as a budget AI GPU that just happens to game better
and even that is a horrendous value.
@@roki977pc masst er consumers
Odd timing for a leak video when we all knew they were officially getting announced today.
don't forget those sweet sweet video encode/decode abilities, their strongest point
if thats strongest point they wont sell well for sure..
I'm still amazed at how fast my videos encode with my A750. Most only focus on fps in games but these there are great creator cards for the price.
@@roki977 a310 is getting hard to find. Everyone is snapping them up for the AV1 and HEVC transcoding abilities
It's not the tier of card I want, but I REALLY hope these are good so I can actually recommend them and we get some better competition.
I fucking know
The Arc A750 was a noticeable upgrade over the Geforce GTX-750-Ti.
The Arc B580 looks like a noticeable upgrade over the Radeon RX-580.
Not to mention the GTX580
@@nurbsivonsirup1416 Imagine Upgrading from the GTX-580, then upgrading to an RX-580, and now upgrading to an Arc B580. At the release of the newer card, was the last time the previous card was actually worthwhile. Also, you can say:
"I've had a 580 as my graphics card since 2010."
@@mraltoid19 lol good one. Your graphics cards will be recieving updates instead of upgrades
Indeed. That's exactly the gpu level I'm upgrading from. Lots of folks still on 1060s and 580s, and that's who Intel are going for I think.
here's the joke - what's the difference between Xess2 and FSR4? Xess2 is out before 2026 :).
If it brings playable framrates for 1080p ray tracing at 250 dollars I consider that a win.
Intel Arc today still depends on fucking DXVK to run the majority of games which you need to download from Github and use manually in every game you play. AMD has AFMF2 which is frame generation for ANY game at the same price point and less and doubles your frame rates in every title with low latency. Intel is bringing nothing here and anyone buying it is a moron
They promised 1440p rt for $250 today at their presentation
That’s not happening tbh. Also who actually cares about ray tracing? Seems like something for normies/casuals who care about muh realistic graphics.
@@gorillagroddgamingmy guy, go watch the presentation from Intel, no need to speculate anything
@@gorillagroddgaming Sadly for you that's where the industry is heading. RT is here to stay and becoming the norm in titles nowadays.
You gotta love more competition. Even if this doesn’t sell like hotcakes, it hopefully will encourage Nvidia and AMD to release their next gen cards at more reasonable prices. And if they don’t, I hope Intel absolutely dominates the mid range market. Looking forward to real reviews
I agree. Battlemage / Xe2 was already present as an iGPU in Lunar Lake, where it was quite good according to reviews. So this might well repeat for a dedicated GPU. Anyway, 12 GB likely makes the card more future proof than any 8 GB card, even the Intel GPU is somewhat weaker.
AMD have better intergrated graphics
@@zerosam5541With Arrow Lake, that's more of a "barely" than a "thoroughly" like with past Intel iGPUs. TechPowerUp has them neck and neck at times.
@@zerosam5541Strix Point vs Xe2 definitely doesn’t have AMD winning from what I saw. They were pretty much equal
@@raikaru0 the 890m is a little bit ahead of the 140v, but not by much and the Strix APU needs to consume more power than the Lunar Lake APU to convincingly beat it.
Tbough in fairness to AMD, the 890m isn't really intended for 15w handhelds and super thin laptops like Lunar Lake is.
Intel after core ultra: call an ambulance
Intel after this: but not for me
At least wait for actual benchmarks for battlemages...
I remember when you could get a mid-range GPU for 250 bucks...
This is a mid range GPU for $250
@@General_M They said it's entry level.
@ it’s a card that targets 1440p ultra. Sounds pretty midrange to me.
@@charmingpeasant9834 according to the intel showcase they had for the b580, there's super sampling and frame gen that uses ai to increase fps 3 fold lol. but that's taking their word for it, card is launching on the 13th of december, so let's see what the actual benchmarks will be. if it's as shown in the showcase, this is definitely going to be like the good ol days where you can get decent settings, decent fps, for a relatively low price.
XeSS is already good and even better on their own cards, this is an improved version of that meaning DLSS level quality + now having framegen and antilag + 12GB of vram all for 250 seems real good in todays market getting a better 4060 with more vram for that price
I have the Intel arc A770 and overall I've been pleased with it but I still get infuriating driver update problems.
I wish Intel luck with these Battlemage new cards
The drivers are why I returned an A770 when they first came out. I was hoping they’d figure it out by now but it sounds like it’s still rough.
@@General_Mstill a much better experience now than at release. They have done some good work.
pretty sound for me on AM5.
anythiong that can break nvidia arrogance is good
I watched the Intel thingie. Every time they said ‘Battlemage’ I heard it in my mind in that deep, resonating, booming DF pronunciation 😅
Intel Drivers: What's between Fine Wine and Glass of Milk ?
Ordinary water
Barrel of beer
Rich channeling his Tony the Tiger, "that's Gggggrrr--eat!"
What I really wanna see is a card with 3090ti levels of performance and 32GB of memory for $700, no matter who makes it. And good support for AI workloads.
I just want 24gb 5080
lol
I wish Pat could have lasted another year to see this launch through.
Totally. They kicked him out just as his changes were starting to bear fruit.
It won't effect the company too much, their GPU business is simply too small. Arrow Lake's flop was the big blow which got Pat fired, they needed that success more than ever.
@@lharsay Yup. As far as their GPUs go it's not going to give them any big short term gains. It's something that's going bear fruit in the long run.
Pat costed Intel billions just by opening his mouth about Taiwan. They gave him time to try and steer the ship after that blunder and he failed, he had to go out.
Even my RTX 3080 10GB is running out of VRAM on some games now. Playing on 1440p ultrawide and when I have multiple TH-cam tabs open and textures are pushed high I can start running out of VRAM and have to turn down settings due to massive FPS drops. Plan on getting a 5080 or 4090 depending on the prices and performance of the new Nvidia cards.
"Playing on 1440p ultrawide and when I have multiple TH-cam tabs open and textures are pushed high" Solution: close those multiple TH-cam tabs and focus on the game you are playing.
@@AjayBlanco I prefer to just buy a GPU with more VRAM.
@@user-ic6xf Maybe they don't. According to the Steam hardware survey, the majority of people use 8GB or less, 47% of the people have a video card with 6GB or 8GB VRAM, and the RTX 4060 is among the more popular video cards.
@@AjayBlanco My comment was about me, not other people...
@@user-ic6xf Do you have other preferences? How do you feel about RGB? How much do you want? Is 200 Lumen of RBG enough?
So building a nice sub $600 system is now a thing. If the RT performance is near rtx 4060ti and good framerates, it'd be a nice EGpu for certain handhelds.
Handhelds need iGPUs with low TDP.
@@cube2foxlies, I have a handheld with a 4090.
FYI. He said egpu. You plug it in via USB c to upgrade the graphics of rog ally or legion go
apparently it's better than the 4060 i think but not as good as the 4060ti. more closer towards the 4060 than the ti. not sure if it's just normal fps or with RT on.
Nvidia:
4060 about the same as 3060 but more expensive.🐢
Intel:
Low-end card beats their top previous-gen card and costs less!🎉
Hey look, here come AMD ... Ready to miss their opportinity !
AMD is about to release 8800XT with RTX 4080 performance in ray tracing and -25% low power consumption of RX 7900XTX
You really released this video after the official reveal? Why?
11:20 Exactly, that's my main problem with most benchmarks on TH-cam. Pairing components that would never be used together in a realistic build is in my opinion pointless for the end user.
The only upside is avoiding all possible bottlenecks at the time of the review, because I'm pretty sure a 1080ti would perform quite better now with a 7800x3D compared to what was available at the time of its release.
I think pure performance benchmark with the best available CPU still have a place, but for budget GPUs especially, realistic budget/midrange builds should be considered.
What is the point of presenting a 250$ GPU in a 1800$ rig.
I have just built a PC based on 9800x3d but I am waiting for the GPU releases. In theory, I may be the recipient of the B580 to wait for the prices of more powerful GPUs from the competition to stabilize! :)
Why not waiting for AMD 8800 XT in January 2025 ?
Watching this discussion jogged something into place. I took another look at the B580 cards, finally noticing the 8 bit PCiE-4 interface on two of the ASRock cards. I'd been itching to try using all three available PCIE 5.0 SSD slots on my upcoming build, hesitant because using more than the first pcie 5 SSD slot crunched the GPU card's datapath from 16 to 8 bits. Hoping I'm not hugely misinterpreting the meaning of all this and that it's not just a misprint. So thanks!
Yea it’s something like that , I can’t even try these cards out since their dumb pcie lanes , essentially if you don’t have pcie 5.0 it runs at half it’s bandwidth unlike pcie4
Please don't mess this up.🤞
While I'm at it dear Digital Foundry, whenever you get the chance, please pester Intel engineers about L4 cache for CPUs.
NVIDIA : Oh .. anyway .. say hello to our RTX 5060 ti for only 349.99 $
You wish, it'll be 400 if not more.
Calling it MSRP: $600, and third party: $700.
The RTX 5060 still gonna be a 1080p gimped card. It literally never fails with Nvidia. Meanwhile the 5070ti/super is a set to be a gimped 4090.
Would this work well for a media server?
Intel's GPUs are supposedly excellent at video transcoding, so probably
@ Thank you. This stuff just moves too fast for this old man to keep up anymore.
They have the best media encoders on the market. You honestly shouldn't be looking at anything else for a media server. But a B580 is overkill for that, unless you have tons of 4k streams going at once. An A310, A380, or maybe an A580 would be plenty, and they're much cheaper.
@ yeah? Thank you! I have a wall of 4k discs I want to rip full isos of. I am still learning. I thought about building a small tower with a drive to do the rips and then just plunking it behind my router after that.
How is that possible? Do routers support harddisk or what@@hong_kong_phooey
Is there a decent company out there assembling Intel PCs? A small gaming pc with a modern i7 and this B580 plus 16gb ram and a small ssd? Could run around $700usd retail before discounts and be a great little starter pc.
FYI, while the price on paper is very good, in reality it might be different. Sure in the US you might be able to buy this GPU at that price, but if it is like Alchemist, then the price for Intel GPU in my country will be much more expensive. A770 16GB was supposed to be $330. In my country it is like $500 at minimum. This is exceeding the typical 20%-ish tax. During that time I can buy 6700XT 12GB at a cheaper price.
For Battlemage, Sparkle already announced their Battlemage lineup with 2 model, the B580 and B570. Their B580 cost $20 more than the reference Intel model. Yes, it is an OC model, but they didn't sell non OC model. Their B570 cost $10 more.
Not a bad move going to the tier where the competitors are not anymore.
Beast of a buget gpu... If it is what they said then i gonna purchase it for sure...
I have 1080 ti. Should I upgrade?
up to you, i was using a 1060 up until last month when it blew up lol. i was able to play most games on varous settings between low to high depending on the fps i was comfortable with at 1440p (non native). i was going to get a rx 7900 gre, but decided to wait and see in jan what the new amd and nvidia cards are gonna be like. apparently according to rumors, the 8800xt is supposed to be as good as the 4080 in terms of ray tracing lol. also depends what the prices are.
if you are happy with your fps or if you want more fps : p also depends on your cpu and stuff. my 1060 was bottlenecked for a while when i got it cos i was using an old i3 cpu lol.
These cards are aimed at the low-to-mid range 40 Series equivalents, so you're looking at a solid three-generation jump in performance. It really comes down to what works for you. I was on the fence about waiting for the 50 Series, but after seeing the rumored prices, I went with the 7900XTX instead, and honestly, no regrets whatsoever. Intel’s pricing is super competitive right now, and AMD is about to drop their updated mid-range cards. If nothing else, I’d say hold off a bit to see what AMD brings to the table first before pulling the trigger. Don't forget to upgrade your other components accordingly.
LICHDOM BATTLEMAGE
Ray tracing killed that lower middle market. It's almost not worth having anything unless it's at least 4080 level. Even then that's not always enough.
A lot of media has emerged showing that Raytracing still isn't producing superior results in the majority of implementations - and the performance penalty just isn't worth it yet.
Certainly in this performance envelope it isn't worth the bother. Not yet.
@@mcmurder8835 Yep and games like Forbidden West proves that you can look better and still not use it.
250$ to get 12gb vram with bunch of great features
the only cons was only the driver.. maybe?
but driver can be updated, so it won't be a huge problem, only take a while to fix by them
The driver support being bad makes me very weary of this brand.. when a hot new game drops that everyone is playing, nobody wants to wait weeks or possibly months to be able to play it..
@@smittyvanjagermanjenson182 the cases where the game launches without driver optimization is more to do with the developer not bothering to optimize for Arc, or them not inviting Intel to send in a few people to make sure it runs decently. Or with UE5 games, it's because Alchemist has hardware inefficiencies that particularly affect UE5 and nanite, but Battlemage is supposed to fix this.
Finally! 4000 Class GPUs for the masses, I am actually quite happy about that, these $1000-2000+ dollar GPUs should NOT become the norm. AMD and Intel are taking very wise moves in this deparment.
AMD doesn't want to compete in the high-end market. Intel has next to nothing for GPU reputation, so they can't afford to scare customers. Like they did with their piss poor CPUs
Nvidia is the only brand I want, because they are the furthest ahead, making their cards to support the full suite of graphical features and not just stuffing the cards with more VRAM while hoping they can ignore RT and UE5 for a long as they can get away with..
@@smittyvanjagermanjenson182ue5 sucks and most raytrace can be written into the game , Ai raytracing is lazy and is only made to benefit nvidia , if devs wanted to add raytrace with little graphical hits they would like they have before
Nvidia Amd and Intel already agreed on how much they gonna charge for Gpus , in such a way that they will get their best profits.
Don't rush it, Intel isn't in the cartel yet
It seems for all intents and purposes performance wise it seems like Intel created their own version of the AMD 6700 line but with way better ray tracing and ai cores for around the price of a 6750XT, at least on the rare occasion they're actually in stock somewhere anyways. That didn't sound impressive at first, but the more I think about that's actually quite the feat.
It's nice just to see a budget priced 1440p card and to get some competition in the budget and mid range space. Hopefully Intel is pretty much done with their GPU teething issues since Alchemist eventually became pretty good on anything not UE5. At this rate, I might actually buy a Celestial card to upgrade when those come around. As it stands though I'm still happy with my discrete PS5 aka my 6700 10gb.
Intel I740
You are showing your age there John! 😅
It looks like it WILL be the new best choice. 12 gb vram with a $239 price and low power consumption👍 If it's good it will shake up the market. Nvidia's stranglehold on the market NEEDS to be stopped
we need gpus with upgradable vram
The thing is, the 6750 XT is better price per performance
The 4060 is cheaper and uses less power, only drawback is less VRAM, but I would go for the 4060, since you know the drivers will work.
16GB on my 4080 is not enough for Flight Simulator 2024. Performance is enough hitting 80-100fps, but after two hours the memory is full and framerate drops to 20. I wish I haven't sold my 7900XTX. Much more futureproof card.
Another game which maxed out the 16GB is Alan Wake 2.
Edit. I play on 5120x3440 resolution which has 10% less pixels than 4K.
10 percent less? How is that ? It's more than 4k
If amds rdna 4 8000 gpus and nvidias 5000 are 2x more then intels battlemage gpus its over for them.
Intel is setting the gpu market on fire.
But does it do Ray Tracing? Hurr durr.
i need to see these cards benchmarked on linux
the only reason i'd buy one was for a consolized bazzite pc
we are finally past the 8gb vram bs
Can it run Hades 2? I could careless about puddles
only problem with Intel video are that it misleads in several parts there so they say 24% over Arc 750 and then 25% over rx 7600 and 4060 even reality are that Arc 750 perform pretty bad vs both Nvidia and amd cards and are 15-20% behind in most of games so what will be in reality !!? probably 5-10% at best over this two cards
Well..........atleast it's competition
This video is a day late
still worse than my 1080 ti lol
the absolute state of pc gaming
8 lanes of pcie connection?Thanks but no...I am on a b450 motherboard
Womp womp. So what cards can you run ?
it's a shame their drivers are terrible
Can’t even try these out due to its dumb pcie interface , Unless you have a pcie gen 5 motherboard these cards won’t perform as well something like over 20% difference
people dont seem to realize inflation has effectively made ~200 dollar cards the new "under 100" category, that price point where anyone reasonable for the past 2 decades just told you to buy used instead, and soon enough that will be the 300-400 range
This old news with earlier intel press release showing some performance numbers
5050 victim
I think intel and AMD would be better off if they focused on laptop GPUs more.
This is hilarious because these low end gpus run out of horsepower well well before they ever get to use all this vram ffs!
First for once. What a day.
You shouldn’t be proud of yourself
you win first prize… nothing
Pro > anything PC
*Intel are you serious?*
Why would we buy new gen Intel over AMD for the same price and performance of old Amd gen Gpu?? Come on ...
Make it $150 for B580 we might think about it!
250 for 4060 performance? i think that's quite good actually. atleast according to intel lol. still need to wait for actual benchmarks to see :D
@xyr3s I would just get the 6750xt with better performance for a tiny bit more. And its AMD not untrustworthy Intel. And we are talking about super Old gpu. New gen Intel suppose to be better deal with better performance.
Imagine if Amd release 8000 series with the same performance and same price Gpus.
Because Intel has upscaling that's actually usable, and that can extend the lifespan and performance envelope of the card.
@@ryanspencer6778 as I see you dont watch Hardware unboxed chanel , you would know more about Xess.
You need to use worse tier upscaler to achieve the same level Fps like Fsr or Dlss. If Fsr Quality = Xess Balanced .
Fsr balanced = Xess Performance. And in that case Xess looks worse almost in every game.
Besides Intel B580 is not 4060ti but in the middle between 4060-4060ti.
@@genasgenas and I see you're someone that hasn't used an Arc card. What you said is true, sort of, for when you use XeSS on AMD or Nvidia. However, when you use XeSS on Intel hardware, it runs much faster and there's no significant performance hit compared to DLSS or FSR, while the image quality is very comparable to DLSS.
PLAYS BEST ON PS5 PRO!!!! MEGA L FOR THE GAYBOX SERIES X FANQUEERS!!!!
what a sad life you live
Typing furiously to drown out the sound of your mom's bedsprings I take it.
Ryan Miller is a reggiN 👍
@NotParticularlyWitty if that was the case, I would have joined in. But that isn't the case.
Thoughts on sreggin?