The Immense Fugal Finale of Bruckner's Fifth Symphony

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    Richard Atkinson analyzes the bewilderingly labyrinthine counterpoint in the immense fugal finale of Bruckner’s 5th Symphony in B flat major (WAB 105). This is a fair use educational commentary that uses excerpts from a recording/performance by the Royal Concertgebouw Orchestra conducted by Bernard Haitink.
    00:00 - Slow intro quoting prior movements
    05:54 - Exposition, first theme (fugue, green subject)
    08:17 - Exposition, second theme ("gesangsperiode" orange theme)
    13:53 - Exposition, closing (3rd) theme (green augmented variant)
    16:07 - Brass chorale theme (blue)
    18:30 - Development (fugue, blue subject)
    22:47 - Development (double fugue, blue/green subjects)
    27:52 - Recapitulation (blue/green themes)
    30:24 - Recapitulation ("gesangsperiode" orange theme)
    33:13 - Recapitulation, closing theme, return of purple theme from first movement, counterpoint involving purple/green themes
    37:01 - "Coda of all codas" with return of green/blue/purple themes in augmentation
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  • @Richard.Atkinson
    @Richard.Atkinson  5 ปีที่แล้ว +93

    If you don't want to watch this all at once:
    0:39 - Slow intro quoting prior movements
    5:54 - Exposition, first theme (fugue, green subject)
    8:17 - Exposition, second theme ("gesangsperiode" orange theme)
    13:53 - Exposition, closing (3rd) theme (green augmented variant)
    16:07 - Brass chorale theme (blue)
    18:30 - Development (fugue, blue subject)
    22:47 - Development (double fugue, blue/green subjects)
    27:52 - Recapitulation (blue/green themes)
    30:24 - Recapitulation ("gesangsperiode" orange theme)
    33:13 - Recapitulation, closing theme, return of purple theme from first movement, counterpoint involving purple/green themes
    37:01 - "Coda of all codas" with return of green/blue/purple themes in augmentation

    • @MG-fh4ed
      @MG-fh4ed 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks. I love this kind of videos

  • @seukfuhi
    @seukfuhi 3 ปีที่แล้ว +45

    It took the world 122 years after Bruckner's death to fully understand this Finale. I say "fully understand" because beforehand, this knowledge was only disseminated among musicologists and musicians. I was born in 1979 and I've read zillions of analyses of this movement pointing out as to how amazing, unbelievable, incredible & ginormously impressive it was, but always basically saying: "It would take an entire book to express how great it is". Well, Mankind can all have a summary of said book in 40+min on TH-cam thanks to Richard Atkinson.

  • @jamesvanderhoorn1117
    @jamesvanderhoorn1117 3 ปีที่แล้ว +59

    As a Bruckner fan who lacks your analytical skills and whose aural acuity is near-deafness compared to yours, I thank you for making me love Bruckner even more. A brilliant video!

  • @shantihealer
    @shantihealer 5 ปีที่แล้ว +161

    This is tremendous, an analysis that musical students, scholars and lovers will return to over and over again for years to come.

  • @peterunderhill1
    @peterunderhill1 5 ปีที่แล้ว +65

    We don't deserve this channel. I feel like crying with delight when I see one of these new videos!

    • @tm2189
      @tm2189 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Well said!

  • @musik350
    @musik350 5 ปีที่แล้ว +90

    My god, 45 minutes analysis, this is a good day

  • @HeelPower200
    @HeelPower200 5 ปีที่แล้ว +60

    unbelievable. Whats makes this so much greater than any "regular" fugal work is the form. Bruckner invented his own form and its almost impossible to predict where he's going to go next. Its much like Beethoven's Grosse Fugue in essence. Complete technical mastery breaking free of any restrictions. I was mesmerized the whole time by your video. Thanks!

  • @VisiblyJacked
    @VisiblyJacked 4 ปีที่แล้ว +33

    This symphony is like nothing else in music. A type of crudeness or naivety mixed with the most sophisticated technique. It's like a single man building Stonehenge.

    • @paulbrower4265
      @paulbrower4265 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      ...and that is Bruckner to a tee, the naïf with marvelous technique. I hear the musical expression of a builder of a great cathedral, only this time with sounds instead of masonry.

  • @brianwolle2509
    @brianwolle2509 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    pretty amazing and imagine anton over your shoulder, telling you what a great job you did!

  • @Alexagrigorieff
    @Alexagrigorieff 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    There are 5 minute videos I can't sit through.
    Sat through all 44 minutes of this without interruptions.

  • @thetimbertops7271
    @thetimbertops7271 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    The 5th and 8th are my favourite Bruckner symphonies; this survey of the final movement of the 5th is superb.

  • @bonusroundsteve
    @bonusroundsteve 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Your work here so concisely and clearly outlines everything, it makes me feel smarter than I really am.

  • @barrybernstein9049
    @barrybernstein9049 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Its about time that Bruckner should be standing on a pedestal next to Beethoven as the two greatest
    composers of symphonies

  • @mrsneaky2010
    @mrsneaky2010 5 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Daniel Barenboim likened a Bruckner symphony to an archaeological dig, exposing layer upon layer!

  • @adrianoseresi3525
    @adrianoseresi3525 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I swear to god, that coda gets better every single time I hear it.

  • @NealJackMeKC
    @NealJackMeKC 5 ปีที่แล้ว +81

    The amount of dedication you put into your videos is amazing. Great job. Thank you for your knowledge.

  • @raulkostin4243
    @raulkostin4243 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    A brilliant analysis of the complicated work of a genius. Thank you so much!

  • @IndoPersian1969
    @IndoPersian1969 4 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Thank you so much for this INCREDIBLE video. I'm going to hear Cleveland play this tomorrow night and even though I'm 50 years old and a classical musician, I've never heard a Bruckner symphony live. Your analysis has given me such a fabulous insight into this work. My experience tomorrow is going to be so much the richer for it. Thank you!

    • @seukfuhi
      @seukfuhi 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      So, how was it?

  • @FredHMusic-gr7nu
    @FredHMusic-gr7nu 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    HOLY MOTHER OF ALL SYMPHONIES! That was amazing! I went into this work expecting some impressive counterpoint but not with this level of epicness! Thank you so much for sharing. Your channel is also a huge help for any and many composers out there today looking for inspiration for their new original works. Again, huge thanks! Brilliant work!

  • @abundance6692
    @abundance6692 5 ปีที่แล้ว +71

    Extraordinary analysis of this extraordinary piece of music. This is sure to become a standard resource for the understanding of Bruckner's art for scholars, musicians, and music lovers for years to come. This is an example of musical analysis of the highest order, increasing the understanding of a complex work of art which will affect the way Bruckner's music will be listened to in the future. Thanks for all the great videos in the past and hopefully those to come in the future.

    • @Richard.Atkinson
      @Richard.Atkinson  5 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      That is a wonderful compliment and it makes me want to continue making these videos. Now if only more people would share them...

    • @paulbrower4265
      @paulbrower4265 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@Richard.Atkinson Just a reminder that the difference between smart people and dumb people is often their attention spans. This is the antithesis of Top-40 hits of pop music made for easy consumption that leaves one empty if one isn't a dullard.
      Bruckner's themes may be simple and even naive, but few could ever combine them in such a profound way. Bruckner's Fifth takes time to savor, and one does need the attention span. This is brainy music in the extreme.
      It is absolutely crazy to write a symphony that has four movements beginning with similar themes and tempos... but Bruckner pulls it off. I have my idea of what constitutes genius, and that is doing what seems crazy and making it obviously true. Bruckner is in that category!

  • @dudleymoore7555
    @dudleymoore7555 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    This is a magnificent video about one of my favourite movements in all the repertoire. Bravo!

  • @yuguangyao590
    @yuguangyao590 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I am a Chinese music lover. Many times have ich the piece heard. But this clip firstly clearly transparently shows me that how and why this piece was so fascinating. Thanks for all!!

  • @grangetowncardiff6935
    @grangetowncardiff6935 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Thank you! The finale is unbelievable. Thank you for the explanation.

  • @huskydogg7536
    @huskydogg7536 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Thank you Richard! I've been listening to Herr Bruckner's symphonies for more than 50 years and this is the best deep dive into one of his scores I've ever seen. You are wonderful at your craft!

  • @Nobilangelo
    @Nobilangelo 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Can anyone ever forget the days he first heard Beethoven, and Bruckner? For me, the first was the Emperor, played by Claudio Arrau and the Philharmonia; the second was the Third Symphony in a riveting performance by a consummate Brucknerian. A few bars was enough. It was like what Robert Frost said about poetry: 'The right reader of a good poem will know the moment it strikes him that he has taken an immortal wound--that he will never get over it.' This analysis serves to better understand the wound.

    • @charlie7531
      @charlie7531 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I do not like bruckner. I thought I would enjoy it after hearing about it but it didn’t happen
      Eons worse then Beethoven

    • @Emerald_City_
      @Emerald_City_ 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@charlie7531 that's why I like it even more!

  • @andreagriseri7656
    @andreagriseri7656 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Simply....thank you!!!!!!

  • @emilianocorradi4079
    @emilianocorradi4079 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Awesome analysis of this monstrous piece. To be watched several times.

  • @JMcdon1627
    @JMcdon1627 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Amazing amount of work. Excellent presentation. Thank you.

  • @bmgBlackpool
    @bmgBlackpool 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I just love your presentation of the scores using different colours and brief verbal indications. This helps to grasp quickly what otherwise only a long and arduous study of the score would reveal. Maybe Bruckner's or Beethoven's contemporaries would have been able to simply hear all these details, but we live in such a visual world now that the use of colours does the trick best! Looking forward to more great videos like this.

  • @jerryhuang9674
    @jerryhuang9674 5 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    WOW!!!!! I LOVE BRUCKNER!! I'M SO HAPPY THAT YOU'VE ACTUALLY DONE A BRUCKNER ANALYSIS VIDEO!! THANK YOU SO MUCH!!! I HOPE MORE BRUCKNER SYMPHONIES WILL BE UPLOADED IN THE FUTURE!!! THANKS!!

  • @bernardohanlon3498
    @bernardohanlon3498 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Richard - thank you for this wonderful exposition of the Symphony of Symphonies. Best wishes, B

  • @carlooliverolayta1552
    @carlooliverolayta1552 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Thank you so much for posting! As a Bruckner fan and non-music major, this helped a lot in understanding Bruckner’s music. Thank you so much!

  • @RickGraham
    @RickGraham 5 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    Superb work!

  • @Jivanmuktishu
    @Jivanmuktishu 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Thank you so much, Richard Atkinson.
    Youre as good as Leonard Bernstein in analysis,
    AND youre master od a system of video display that is dazzling
    as the different themes go thru a color dance to the music.
    This is a magnificent exercise in close.attention.

  • @NoiseOverMusic
    @NoiseOverMusic 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I first discovered Bruckner's genius in his motet Os Iusti. Having heard nothing else from him, I didn't know what to expect, the motet itself was rather "out there" for being in the Lydian mode and yet itself was very subdued (extremely simple harmony, very little 'oomph'). Hearing his other choral pieces, I was taken aback by how radical the harmonies were in comparison.
    Every piece I discover by Bruckner is a further surprise. I have never seen anybody combine traditional musical structures with radical harmonies as well as him.

  • @wehwalte
    @wehwalte 5 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    No fugue fatigue man, i was rocking with my feet and headbanging, don't apologize for this amazing work of yours (for sure not for Bruckner's :P), this is gold content on youtube!

    • @paulbrower4265
      @paulbrower4265 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Counterpoint -- the only addiction that elevates its addict!

  • @tm2189
    @tm2189 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    This is the single most monumental TH-cam video ever!

    • @Richard.Atkinson
      @Richard.Atkinson  5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      It took me about 10 times longer than any of my other videos to make, so I appreciate the comment!

  • @pawdaw
    @pawdaw 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Started watching, had to watch it all.

  • @banjocracy
    @banjocracy 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Well done for tackling this, the greatest of symphonic fugues.

  • @jeroenbons3475
    @jeroenbons3475 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    As an avid listener to Bruckner's 5th since many years, and as an amateur-orchestral score student, I would like to convey my thanks for your cristal-clear and perceptive analysis of the fugal techniques in the unique and amazing 4th Movement. This music never fails to move me deeply, and your video allows me to understand more of the genius composer Bruckner. It has deepened the emotional impact of the music as I experience it while listening. An enrichment of the part of my life that is dedicated to great music such as this!

  • @AnthonyOTooleMusic
    @AnthonyOTooleMusic 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Bravo, Richard -- this must have taken so much time to create. One of my favorite Bruckner movements. His level of craft was astounding and one could get lost for years in a Bruckner or Brahms Symphony. Thanks for making these for all to enjoy!

  • @billtubehart
    @billtubehart 5 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Dood! Thanx!! That was a whole college course in composition, arranging, orchestration, counterpoint, harmony and everything else. You did an amazing job explaining this. I could study this for years and not come close to what Bruk did.

  • @bt8257
    @bt8257 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    When I first heard you say "Various other combinations that will make your head spin" in reference to the many contrapuntal combinations in this brilliant movement at 25:15, the first thought that popped into my head was "why didn't I know about this amazing composer earlier?"

    • @Richard.Atkinson
      @Richard.Atkinson  5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Well now you know about him, which is one of the main goals of my channel!

  • @henriquebocardo-crespo5735
    @henriquebocardo-crespo5735 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thanks so much for your insightful musical analysis.

  • @mjrbruckner9539
    @mjrbruckner9539 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I think this is your magnum opus. Bruckner is simply the best. THANKS

  • @afischer8327
    @afischer8327 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    A magnificent analysis of the most knotty and overwhelming Bruckner finale. There is so much here that I did not appreciate. Many thanks for all your work that went into this. I am a lifelong Bruckner listener, and occasionally performer. This is an incredibly valuable resource and learning video, of a substance comparable to its subject. I applaud you.

  • @michaelsieger9133
    @michaelsieger9133 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Thank you. Sometimes we are simply swept away by the beauty of the music and we forget how much meticulous planning went into the composition of these symphonies. But as opposed to other subjects, where working through the details can become a tedious slog, this sort of analysis only increases my appreciation for the music of Bruckner.

    • @Emerald_City_
      @Emerald_City_ 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yet the meticulous planning you mention somehow sum up in a gloriously organic whole, with nothing contrived in it!

  • @1spitfirepilot
    @1spitfirepilot 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Wow. I really appreciate this effort that went into this video, and it's a fitting tribute to the great last movement. I can't say I followed everything ( fugue fatigue) but I enjoyed trying. Many thanks.

  • @lanonyme
    @lanonyme 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Époustouflant. Le grand Anton Bruckner s'est surpassé. J'ai maintes fois écouté cette 5ème Symphonie et 'est l'une de mes préférées avec la monumentale 8ème. Un immense merci pour votre analyse . . . .

  • @ferguscullen8451
    @ferguscullen8451 5 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Three-quarter-hour Atkinson video? This week is turning out great.

  • @bernardohanlon3498
    @bernardohanlon3498 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Richard, greetings. I love returning to this video - it is one of your Pyramids and TH-cam is going to be around for a long, long, time. Given the opulence of the B5 - the Symphony of Symphonies - you could probably make a new video on it every year and still have something wonderful and original to say. Mozart's Prague Symphony is on the agenda today,. Best wishes to your good self - B

  • @billdomb
    @billdomb 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Can'timagine the work it took to produce this, and, of course, the underlying erudition. Thanks.

  • @FougarouBe
    @FougarouBe 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Wonderful ! And right in time for me as I listened to this 5th symphony like once every week since 6 months ago ! Thank you so much for this great analysis revealing again the genius of those composers and bringing to conscience what we can feel by our heart when listening to the music !

  • @davidrothstein765
    @davidrothstein765 5 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    Many Many Thanks for this.I have been listening to this tremendous symphony for 40 years and regard it as one of the pinnacles of western art. To see an excellent analysis of the finale has been immensely gratifying. Isn’t the reappearance of the chorale (blue) in the coda one of the great moments in all music?

    • @Richard.Atkinson
      @Richard.Atkinson  5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      It certainly is one of the great moments!

    • @stephenjones6746
      @stephenjones6746 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Yes, I agree, it is one of the finest moments in all music.

    • @banjocracy
      @banjocracy 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yes it is.

    • @Emerald_City_
      @Emerald_City_ 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      One of the great moments in all music? Thé one, thé greatest symphonic moment in a way, the whole coda, and yes, one of the pinnacles of modern art! I very much admire Richard for his feat here, all of what he has done, the complexity & means deployed along with his rightfully and properly restrained voice and the remarks that hit the nail on the head and suit this titanic achievement 1000 % . Unlike Bruckner himself, I once attended (a spectacularly good) performance of this symphony, and with the start of "coda of all codas", a just couldn't remain seated any more. I had to stand up to deal with the burst of accumulated adrenaline. Luckily, it was in the last back row of the rear stalls... 😊

    • @ddrothste
      @ddrothste 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Emerald_City_ Totally agree! I recall many years ago when I first attended a concert performance of the 5th (Israel Philharmonic- do not remember the conductor) . I was so excited to finally "see and listen in the flesh" after so many listenings on tapes. I was totally immersed for the whole performance but with a smile I remember the person who always sat in front of me (subscription series) get up after the final cords, turn to me and said " Ah that was difficult". Not everyone's taste.

  • @2905sid
    @2905sid ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Thank you for ending only on the music, Richard. My goosebumps lasted over a minute. Incredible work. I keep coming back to this video over and over.

  • @ragingboson4201
    @ragingboson4201 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Sublime analysis, sublime Bruckner 5! Thank you so much for bringing this experience to me: I never thought of its hypercomplex structure when I listened to this mvt before. Makes me appreciate it much much more now!

  • @JoelLeBras
    @JoelLeBras 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Where Bruckner's genius explodes and makes his "enemies" speechless. So much science of counterpoint for a so musical, lyrical, romantical result !

  • @currawong2011
    @currawong2011 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Oh dear...this is what TH-cam could be/should be. Magnificent achievement....I thank you for helping me to better understand the complexity of Bruckner's near unimaginable architectural achievement. I will now wipe away the tears. Thank you again.

  • @caiofabiomachadomaiadasilv4190
    @caiofabiomachadomaiadasilv4190 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Fantastic Video, Ms Atkinson!! Thanks!

  • @60bui
    @60bui 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    GREAT WORK, THANK YOU!!!

  • @terryz935
    @terryz935 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    watching this i had a memory that i thought might be a mandela-effect: that some conductors included extra brass (the so called "eleven apostles") for this movement. thankfully, google is my friend.
    "The Fifth was a particular favorite of Jochum. TAHRA's notes include many detailed comments by the conductor on interpreting the entire symphony and how he uses 11 additional brass instruments in the finale: 4 horns, 3 trumpets, 3 trombones and 1 bass tuba, jokingly called "the 11 Apostles - Judas, the Twelfth, is not among them." Franz Schalk found when he conducted the work that when it came to the majestic last-movement chorale brass players were so tired they were unable to present this music in its full glory, so he introduced the 11 extra players in a raised position behind the orchestra, a concept supported by Jochum except that he has the extra players mixed in with the regular brass section. From bar 583 onward in this performance all of the brass, regular and added, join in the chorale, producing a grandiose effect indeed. "
    from classicalcdreview.com/bruckner5ej.htm

  • @montana6041
    @montana6041 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thank you!

  • @annakimborahpa
    @annakimborahpa 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Astute analysis of a monumental, but joyfully exuberant finale. Anton was having some pedagogical fun composing this one. Haitink well conveys the hijinks.

  • @brendanward2991
    @brendanward2991 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    This video must have been a nightmare to make. Your hard work is much appreciated. The John Williams theme was always one of my favourite moments in the symphony!

    • @Emerald_City_
      @Emerald_City_ 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Absolutely...

  • @ob4161
    @ob4161 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Absolutely fantastic work! Cannot thank you enough for your time. Wow Bruckner really is a disciple of Bach!

  •  5 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Beautiful! I hear so much more now when I listen to it. A casual listener does not notice all these details, but once they are pointed out, it's impossible not to notice.

  • @jasperiscool
    @jasperiscool 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I ate this video like I eat my pancakes. All of them at once and left with a great, happy, saturated feeling. Great work!

  • @StefanSchmalhaus
    @StefanSchmalhaus 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This is my favorite video of yours!

  • @imsafresnarus
    @imsafresnarus 5 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Fantastic, super thematic analysis of a great symphony. Almost all analyses such as Simpson, Tovey, and Brown of Bruckner tend to be harmonic. Now I can only hope for rhythmic and dynamic analyses of Bruckner. I hope you will do the rest of the symphonies.

  • @enriquesanchez2001
    @enriquesanchez2001 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Richard - you make this all sound so EASY! :) Thank you!

  • @Richard.Atkinson
    @Richard.Atkinson  5 ปีที่แล้ว +30

    If you use a color filter on your computer or phone in the evening, you should disable it before watching this video, since it might make the green and blue themes look indistinguishable.

  • @flaggerify
    @flaggerify 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    That coda is magnificent.

  • @richardwashington620
    @richardwashington620 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Wow! Thank you for your wonderful video and talk. I have known this symphony since my late teens when Gunter Wand conducted a promenade concert of it at the Royal Albert Hall in 1990 (I think) with the BBC Symphony Orchestra. Up until that moment I had hated Bruckner and found his symphonies impossible (I was a Mahler fan). I can’t say that I fell in love with it right away. Rather, I found it utterly compelling, a feeling augmented by Wand’s autocratic command of the music and stoical conducting. It was one of those “event” concerts, when you know that this is a piece of music that you must learn to know, that in time you will unlock its secrets. Over the years I have come back to it again and again and I am deeply in love with it now…..the entry of the chorale at the Coda usually brings tears to my eyes and electricity flows through my body, just as it did as I watched your film. I have slowly realised that it is perhaps the purest expression of Bruckner’s musical genius. Your film has helped explain to me why this is so. I cannot listen to Bruckner’s music too often. It’s too powerful. Too cosmic, too moving. He is capable of unlocking a particular and overwhelming vision of the divine in a unique way. Thank you for explaining the tools and mastery by which he achieved this.

  • @HotRatsAndTheStooges
    @HotRatsAndTheStooges 5 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Wow. This must have taken a long time to put together. I'm 10 minutes in but I have to say that this is one of your strongest and most interesting videos yet!

    • @Richard.Atkinson
      @Richard.Atkinson  5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Let's just say it gave me carpal tunnel syndrome...

  • @dqvissmyph2968
    @dqvissmyph2968 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Brilliant video. What joy the composer must have felt on completing this mighty symphonic journey. The clarinet tune at bar 11 reminds me of a little coiled spring, gaining strength through this movement until it rears up in unrecognisable splendour to drive the fugue to its conclusion.

    • @chrisflushy
      @chrisflushy ปีที่แล้ว

      Actually he said he wouldn’t compose it again even if they pay him 500 gulden.

  • @marsaeolus9248
    @marsaeolus9248 5 ปีที่แล้ว +30

    Bruckner was a genius

    • @huskydogg7536
      @huskydogg7536 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Hard to believe but in his life more people called him a simpleton than a genius!

    • @Jivanmuktishu
      @Jivanmuktishu 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@huskydogg7536 True; on the other hand, Richard Wagner described him as Beethoven's successor.

  • @canman5060
    @canman5060 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    My best love symphony. Thanks very much for this very indepth analysis to give me a much deeper appreciation of this masterpiece.

  • @raymond.clarke
    @raymond.clarke 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thank you for taking the time to produce this rewarding video. The 1971 Haitink recording that you have used was the first vinyl issue of the work that I heard (in 1980) and the symphony made an immediate impression on me; having a score to follow helped. But despite having bought over 50 more CD recordings of this symphony for my library since then, it seems that more than 40 years later I don't know the work as well as I assumed I did, because your analysis/commentary has drawn my attention to many features that I have either previously overlooked or of which I have been merely vaguely semi-conscious. I need to listen to your analysis a second time to assimilate all of your points, and I'd certainly urge anyone remotely interested in this astonishing music to watch the video in its entirety at least once.

  • @wiekvanvenetie3797
    @wiekvanvenetie3797 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    An analysis like this for the first movement of mahlers 7th symphony would be incredible!

  • @jamesmccullough3267
    @jamesmccullough3267 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Richard, your commentary and score illustrations are very good. Excellent choice of subjects and examples. You make this former music major recall the harmony lessons he endureed so long ago with great enjoyment.

  • @Person4976
    @Person4976 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Amazing work Richard - getting thousands of people to sit through (and enjoy!) a symphonic movement analysis that is longer than many entire symphonies is no mean feat!
    Regarding the John Williams theme (42:26): you may well have already noticed and not been able to fit it into this video, but for fellow viewers, I just wanted to offer the observation that it derives from the theme of the slow movement quoted at 3:30 (specifically, the first bar stitched to an inversion of the fourth bar and transposed into a triumphant Bb major). I agree it sounds slightly out of place when it appears, but hopefully it seems less "banal" when heard as a reworking of an earlier theme in the symphony

    • @Emerald_City_
      @Emerald_City_ 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I get the point, both yours and Richard's, but to me this always sounded typically Brucknerian in its "shifted" placing and effect, just like all the other melodic and harmonic shifts elsewhere. He as if "mocked" himself by refusing to be overly rigid and played with both tonality and melody to achieve something original. Yet after just a few auditions it gets to sound perfectly logical, doesn't it? Well, obviously not to Richard and his older brother...

  • @hansachs
    @hansachs 5 ปีที่แล้ว +58

    All of Bruckner 8 next!!

  • @muhchung
    @muhchung 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Thank you very much for this detailed analysis of the stunning movement!! I sure would like to watch this over and over again.

  • @davidwright8432
    @davidwright8432 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Very many thanks! I've been a Bruckner fan since age 15, too many decades ago. I read music, as a five yr old reads text; but the explantations, score, and playing are very helpful to extending understanding. It's like seeing a vast, comples and beautiful machine disassembled, the parts played with to see how they mesh or interact.
    when i come to revisit the whole 5th (tomorrow!) I'll be listening carefully. I look forward to more videos - and have of course subscribed and requested updates.

    • @Emerald_City_
      @Emerald_City_ 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I first heard Bruckner when I was 15 too :) It was the 9th in a 1973 concert, followed by the LP's of the 4th, the 7th, and the 3rd, then by the 6th, then by the 8th in a radio broadcast... the addiction was definitive and locked after hearing the first bars of 4th and the 7th's Adagio. When some years later I heard the 1st, I didn't expect much but was still impressed. I think it's been underrated, though the real fun begins indeed with the 3rd... and the 4th is such a masterpiece, it's hard to fathom how Wagner could make such a mistake by choosing the 3rd instead of 4th.

  • @Emerald_City_
    @Emerald_City_ 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I've been coming to Yt platform almost since the beginning (somewhere in 2006). Since 2008 my favorite video has been an amateur creation of a French lady, now hitting 1M views, but she seems to be gone. Full of poetry and free from any pretension, she has formed my taste and aspirations and has remained my favorite video maker... up until a few days ago. Then I saw this one. I have never remotely seen such a feat within what is closest to my life-long fascination by AB - now approaching half a century. I would not dream to think the insight like this will even be accessible to me in my lifetime. You however have revealed to us who are not professionals the layered formula of Bruckner magic that we could only hear but not clarify and see. Please do more of this, like 8th, 9th or 4th. The 7th you merely touched! Your try on the 6th is commendable.

    • @Richard.Atkinson
      @Richard.Atkinson  7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      More Bruckner is definitely coming soon on this channel! I have some major videos planned for Symphonies 7, 8, and 9!

    • @Emerald_City_
      @Emerald_City_ 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Richard.Atkinson that's great news! Looking forward... keep up your fantastic work

  • @canman5060
    @canman5060 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Symphony of the majestic nature with mountains and river streams just like holiday in Baff National Park Canada.

  • @boyisun
    @boyisun 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Great analysis!

  • @gretchenmenn
    @gretchenmenn 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Just discovering your videos. Just amazing stuff! Thank you!!

  • @HAEngel-cr5gp
    @HAEngel-cr5gp 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Thank you, Richard, for this wondrous labor of love, intellect, musicianship, and spirit. I have more to say, but I must recover from this journey and labyrinth of mindblowing counterpoint and construction. I must and will say more as the profound work that you have so kindly shared with all of us merits so much more. But most importantly, for now, I once again bow to you with ever sincere gratitude, admiration, and respect......I shall return...Thanks again, Richard.

    • @Emerald_City_
      @Emerald_City_ 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I stand behind each and every word of yours...

  • @d.bruckner2876
    @d.bruckner2876 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Bravissiomo! Very helpful to me as I am going to hear Bruckners Nr. 5 this afternoon played by the Symphonny Orchestra of the Bavarian Broadcasting Association conducted by Christian Thieleman. Thank You so much for this awsome introduction!

  • @mr-wx3lv
    @mr-wx3lv 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I remember hearing this work for the first time live when I was a child.(I can't remember the artists, certainly a British Orchestra, maybe Halle orchestra). You can imagine what the impact of the incredible loudness of that final coda had on me. Never forgotten!. Bruckner just an incredible, unique man. Hooked on him ever since.

    • @banjocracy
      @banjocracy 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Might have been the BBC Philharmonic, was it very early 80s?

    • @mr-wx3lv
      @mr-wx3lv ปีที่แล้ว

      @@banjocracy I honestly can't remember. All I remember was the first half of the concert was a first time hearing of the conductors own composition. And it went down like a lead balloon.....!

  • @nphlelps
    @nphlelps 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Admirable dedication to a worthy project, and excellently executed. Congratulations on your hard work and I’m sure now deeper understanding of this remarkable movement! Thank you for sharing your hard work and knowledge with us.

  • @jakobelias9783
    @jakobelias9783 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thank you very much for the great effort you put into making this analysis and video! I'm going to hear the 5th next week in the Wiener Konzerthaus by the Wiener Philharmoniker conducted by Welser-Möst and am now more than ever looking forward to hearing this great symphony (and this great movement) for the first time live :)

  • @TheApostleofRock
    @TheApostleofRock 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Wow. Thank you for this. There is no way I'd be brave enough to listen to this on my own. I tried his seventh after your other bruckner video and was overwhlemed by how long it was. But I was completely engaged as you dissected this movement. Maybe i can take on this symphony afterall.
    In general, your vids have encouraged me to tackle music that I would have otherwise been unaware of.

    • @Jivanmuktishu
      @Jivanmuktishu 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      bRUCKNER TAKES TIME!

    • @Emerald_City_
      @Emerald_City_ 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Matterhorn is a beautiful sheer daring mountain peak. But it takes more time to climb K2 or Everest.

  • @chopincookies
    @chopincookies 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Indeed a coda of all codas... brave us watched all at once (and became quite disfunctioned near the end). Bravo!

  • @NN-df7hl
    @NN-df7hl ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Thanks so much for this! I'm not a musician, but even as a lay listener it's helped me immensely to make my way through this formidable work. I can't say it's my fave Bruckner, but goodness it must be the most technically complex! It's like celestial mechanics in sonic form. ;) It's amazing that a "country bumpkin" had the intellectual prowess to order music at this insanely high level. His mind was obviously not like other mortals. Had he gone into medicine he may have cured cancer, or come close.
    PS: Would you consider giving timings of where specific sections begin? It would definitely makes things easier to follow! Like I believe the transition to the crescendo that becomes the double-fugue starts @ 10 mins 50 secs on the recording by Lorin Maazel. Would you say that's about right? Thnx!!!

    • @NN-df7hl
      @NN-df7hl ปีที่แล้ว +1

      "Blue" seems to be the predominant aim of this symphony, I mean the exposition seems to lay out the map of a person's journey towards enlightenment: conflict ("Green"), relaxation ("Orange"), bombast (closing theme), soulful ("Blue" the Chorale). Then the development is the ACTUAL moving through the fray of life, you and your soul ("Blue") getting confronted, meeting challenges, enduring. Then the coda is Conflict (Green) transfigured and leading toward Paradise (the Chorale/Blue). Of course, I'm just a lay listener! Not a musician. Just throwing this out based on my ears alone. :) Cheers!

  • @diegoparra8178
    @diegoparra8178 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Thank you so much for the amount of work you put into this videos

  • @JeanPaul-Hol65
    @JeanPaul-Hol65 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I only have one thing to say: thank you for this wonderful effort... or to say it better: for this "Counterpoint fatigue"!! 😁😉
    By a grateful italian brucknerian.

  • @1yonjae
    @1yonjae 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Die 5. Symphonie von Anton Bruckner wurde vom 2. Satz zuerst komponiert. Die Konzeption des "Wiederausbruchs" - im Sinne von Ernst Kurth, was das symphonische Schaffen Bruckners charakterisiert, erst ab der 5. Symphonie erkennbar. Die kontrapunktische Doppelaktion (zum Beispiel Umkehrungsaugmentation = Umkehrung zugliech augmentiert (doppelt verlängert) und die 3 fache Themenmischung sowie der Einsatz des Orgelpunkt am Ende der kontrapunktischen Arbeit plus mehrmalige 5 Klänge Einsätze sind ein für Bruckner eine musikalische Waffe, mit der der Zuhörer sein Verfassungsvermögen verliert. So kommt am Ende ein Moment des musikalischen Erhabenen, in der das Subjekt gegenüber dem Werk dominiert wurde - im Sinne von Kant.
    Analyse Literatur: Die Analyse und die Ästhetik der Steigerungsprozesse in der Symphonik Anton Bruckners, 3 Bde, Diss. Univ. Frankfurt 2003.

  • @brianbernstein3826
    @brianbernstein3826 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    15:20 this part is awesome wow. this piece reminds me a LOT of Mozart's 24th piano concerto movement 1, not just the rhythms but the octave leaps placed on downbeats