@@elmouktafihicham2252 it's possible, but not practical.. let's say it takes 15 minutes which isn't really practical when this guy didn't spray the tool with rust protect, or bleed the water lines and most times you'll have valve gates, hydraulic lines, knockout bars that will consume more time. Besides that.. you'll need the cell to be set up and the hopper drained / blown out and refilled/labeled in that same time for this to even be practical. Which material handler will be doing that in 15 minutes LOL
I work at Nova working for Mayco , and this molding is magnetic lol we do clamps , water hoses some molds are big as you some are small but most of them are huge and it isn’t not that easy but we get molds done under 1hr 20 mins sum are faster like 30min if your skilled and had sum experience I had learned all this in 1yr and I been doin mold settin position for 2 months which is amazing
Nice, I'm at the newest Mayco in Michigan and we have 43 presses ranging from 330-3500 tons and our times are very similar.. the 1500+ ton presses can take 1h if it's a sister tool but if we have to change the clamp orientation and move secondary's we're looking at like 1.5hrs doing the 500 ton presses it can be done in like 30 minutes start to finish but that's mainly due to good staging (coming prepared with every single thing we need and having the crane there ready to go)
I work as a production engineer in south korea in a big plastic injection manufacturing company.WHASUNG ENGINEERING we run highly productive and high speed machines such as ENGEL made from germany and many others.it is true that we can set up mold or change it for only 10 minutes,specially if you already mastered all technique and procedure in handling such job.
We have 1 press at my job that has an mag platen it's a van dorn 230 model and I can pull and set a new mold in about 25 min on all the other machines it takes me about 45 min to a hour to pull a mold and set a new one and I'll set anywhere between 5 and 8 molds a shift I love it
We have Mag plattens at Johnson Controls plants in holland, Michigan. Made life simple. We did a tool change on a 780 ton in 7 min flat old one to new one and start up
So you blew out your lines, changed program, disconnected your valve gates (air or hydraulic), disconnected DME's, sprayed rust preventative on current mold, put the eye bolts in, connected the crane, unmagnetized, safely operated the crane, then did that in reverse but bleeding the lines out for the water instead of blowing them out and cleaning the old rust preventative from when the new mold was removed last as well as set a die height and make sure it's level.. I call bullshit sir. I've been doing setups for 6 weeks and I can do a mold change on a 780 ton in 1.5 hrs the conventional way and that includes changing out the EOA and waiting for my DME's to reach temps as well as my therm/water.
Takes me about 1 hour 30 minutes to do a full change. Mold setting is the quick part.. have to tie in, adjust picker, clean the hopper and grinder aswell since, different tools usually=different material. Also use a sitdown forklift. Looks much easier at other places! Love my job though
We have two magnetic presses. It takes at least 40 minutes to change. With water lines and mold heats and tc's. Ten minutes would be awesome but realistically it takes like 40 minutes. From steel to steel that is. Probably depends on machine. Ours are Engels.
I think they mean just the time to swap molds not the time to unhook all the lines and etc and then hook up the new one. at my last job we had a 1500 ton press and it took all day.
@@ericschreiber1847 all day, that's crazy we have a 1100 ton w/ rotary table and sometimes we have to take out the entire rotary table to fit a few jobs that won't fit between the platen daylight with the table, when we have to do this it takes like 3 - 3.5 hours but without maybe 2.5 and one of the jobs we have to put the stationary mold in first since it almost reaches 10 tons alone and our crane only handles 10.
Specifically time the part of your change operation whwre you are putting on your clamps. Then time how long it takes to clean a platnen (which you have to do with mags) and then set your mags. The difference is the time you save. I think you'll find you won't do much better than 30 minutes for a change and that assumes everything goes right. They do save labor though.
a place we build for can change a fascia in 5 minutes. mag platens, pre-heat station and roll mold horizontally. ejection is hydraulic and main connection for water, hyd and electrical.
@@kkartal the plant had molds on roller conveyors and load horizontally. One mold would go out and new mold was ready and preheated. They also used very expensive staubli connectors for water/electriccal/hydraulics. They had to be located in the correct spot for the machine to automatically plug in. The plant spent a lot of money as they calculated how many hours they spend on mold change and decided it was an advantage to change molds quickly. All the robots change as well as its all barcoded.
@@yaboyreege7158 man at my plant we still tie in the bars with the bolts on the back plate , we got Mitsubishi machines here I think this plant been around since the 1980 it’s called NYX
Agree, with Adam... There are much more to changing molds. Unless it it's a small machine(25 tnnoes or so). Help with raw material, you don't nake kt in 10 minutes. Niw I'm a project leader but I have been changing tools for ammost 13 years before that... No pressure on the people who are doing this...
3hrs ha ha ha..same 30 ton hpdc die we changed in 60 mins.no tool required nly crane and one person enough..total 11 core cly and 75 cooling lines there..
No way, thats not possible. I, ve been working almost15 years in the plastic molding injection industries in Sweden. No way you could change a mold in 10 minutes with out pre set program and pre-heating the mold, ready to go program and some one helping you with the raw material, masterbach e.tc. Like the effort though....
I do change molds for 3 years now i take around 20 too 35 mins 2 man job my boss says that with 1 more person we could do it in 10 in some rare cases (i work with 30+tons bumpers molds )
A place we do work for can do a fascia in 5 or 10 minutes. The plant spent a lot of money on equipment to make it happen. Magnetic plates, preheating stations and automated multi couplings for all the hookups. If they are not not making good parts in 20 minutes, the mold maker gets called in to see what can be done to speed it up.
I've been a setter/process tech for 20 years and I've changed tools slone in less than 10 minutes without magnetic plattens. 8 clamps, positive return ejection, two TCU'S and a pick and place robot. Last shot to first shot in just over 9 minutes, 15 minutes between last-off submittion and first off submittion to QA. Back in the early 00's my mate and I could do a 6000Kn machine with 4000Kg tools in 15 minutes (him at the op door, me at the back door). It can be done but I'll never say it's easy.
are you sure😂???? ten minutes for only change mould ,,how about water line air line and fixing injector ,?? 😂😂😂😂😂😂you think ten minutes ,,,your liar 😂😂😂
alright mold change is over, where's my material? you didn't even start blowing out the hopper yet? why'd we spend millions on this press if I have to wait for my material
@@estebanmoreno1636 somos. 3 cambiadores... uno conexiones de agua e hidraulicos. Y otro puente grua y camara caliente... y el otro pantalla de operador. En 10 minutos bajamos y subimos moldes de 50tn...
Wish it was that easy at my plant
Er hat ja nur das Werkzeug reingeschraubt.
I think you could unmag a mold better than that so it don't swing as bad don't open your clamp up so far after rummaged then open the rest of the way
At my factory we have big machines.. KM-2300 Engel 1500 KM- 1600 etc... Moulds are around 10- 25 ton 😂
@@numericvortex7818 60 ton here to 1 up ya lol
Right 🤣😂 this is fancy.
This is just a selling point to corporate bosses who have never set a mold in their life and expect the impossible out of their employees.
it's not possible ?
@@elmouktafihicham2252 it's possible, but not practical.. let's say it takes 15 minutes which isn't really practical when this guy didn't spray the tool with rust protect, or bleed the water lines and most times you'll have valve gates, hydraulic lines, knockout bars that will consume more time. Besides that.. you'll need the cell to be set up and the hopper drained / blown out and refilled/labeled in that same time for this to even be practical. Which material handler will be doing that in 15 minutes LOL
I work at Nova working for Mayco , and this molding is magnetic lol we do clamps , water hoses some molds are big as you some are small but most of them are huge and it isn’t not that easy but we get molds done under 1hr 20 mins sum are faster like 30min if your skilled and had sum experience I had learned all this in 1yr and I been doin mold settin position for 2 months which is amazing
I too am a new die setter and I love it been doing it for like 3 months myself now! I work at Lincoln industries in boonville indiana
Nice, I'm at the newest Mayco in Michigan and we have 43 presses ranging from 330-3500 tons and our times are very similar.. the 1500+ ton presses can take 1h if it's a sister tool but if we have to change the clamp orientation and move secondary's we're looking at like 1.5hrs doing the 500 ton presses it can be done in like 30 minutes start to finish but that's mainly due to good staging (coming prepared with every single thing we need and having the crane there ready to go)
@@ph00n0 damm yall hiring or wah that sounds like a clean facility
I work as a production engineer in south korea in a big plastic injection manufacturing company.WHASUNG ENGINEERING we run highly productive and high speed machines such as ENGEL made from germany and many others.it is true that we can set up mold or change it for only 10 minutes,specially if you already mastered all technique and procedure in handling such job.
Gud morning sir I completed diploma in plastics technology from Cipet imphal . I have two years 6 month experianc in plastics injection moulding
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We have 1 press at my job that has an mag platen it's a van dorn 230 model and I can pull and set a new mold in about 25 min on all the other machines it takes me about 45 min to a hour to pull a mold and set a new one and I'll set anywhere between 5 and 8 molds a shift I love it
We have Mag plattens at Johnson Controls plants in holland, Michigan. Made life simple. We did a tool change on a 780 ton in 7 min flat old one to new one and start up
So you blew out your lines, changed program, disconnected your valve gates (air or hydraulic), disconnected DME's, sprayed rust preventative on current mold, put the eye bolts in, connected the crane, unmagnetized, safely operated the crane, then did that in reverse but bleeding the lines out for the water instead of blowing them out and cleaning the old rust preventative from when the new mold was removed last as well as set a die height and make sure it's level.. I call bullshit sir. I've been doing setups for 6 weeks and I can do a mold change on a 780 ton in 1.5 hrs the conventional way and that includes changing out the EOA and waiting for my DME's to reach temps as well as my therm/water.
Forgot to mention doing your safety straps and undoing them on the next job... yes it all takes time
Takes me about 1 hour 30 minutes to do a full change. Mold setting is the quick part.. have to tie in, adjust picker, clean the hopper and grinder aswell since, different tools usually=different material. Also use a sitdown forklift. Looks much easier at other places! Love my job though
We have two magnetic presses. It takes at least 40 minutes to change. With water lines and mold heats and tc's. Ten minutes would be awesome but realistically it takes like 40 minutes. From steel to steel that is. Probably depends on machine. Ours are Engels.
I think they mean just the time to swap molds not the time to unhook all the lines and etc and then hook up the new one. at my last job we had a 1500 ton press and it took all day.
@@ericschreiber1847 all day, that's crazy we have a 1100 ton w/ rotary table and sometimes we have to take out the entire rotary table to fit a few jobs that won't fit between the platen daylight with the table, when we have to do this it takes like 3 - 3.5 hours but without maybe 2.5 and one of the jobs we have to put the stationary mold in first since it almost reaches 10 tons alone and our crane only handles 10.
Specifically time the part of your change operation whwre you are putting on your clamps. Then time how long it takes to clean a platnen (which you have to do with mags) and then set your mags. The difference is the time you save. I think you'll find you won't do much better than 30 minutes for a change and that assumes everything goes right. They do save labor though.
a place we build for can change a fascia in 5 minutes. mag platens, pre-heat station and roll mold horizontally. ejection is hydraulic and main connection for water, hyd and electrical.
How did you do that, can we discuss that?
@@kkartal the plant had molds on roller conveyors and load horizontally. One mold would go out and new mold was ready and preheated. They also used very expensive staubli connectors for water/electriccal/hydraulics. They had to be located in the correct spot for the machine to automatically plug in. The plant spent a lot of money as they calculated how many hours they spend on mold change and decided it was an advantage to change molds quickly. All the robots change as well as its all barcoded.
It seems that no one in this field never has any idea what the fuck they are doing.
There's a very big difference between changing a mold and making a new mold producing..
so blowing out water and disconnecting the lines, along with valve gate lines, and hot runner lines don't count twords a mold change?
And what about the bolts that go on the back of the knock outs?lol
Aaron Vest yea I guess with this mold/platen tying in the ejectors is just a thing of the past lol
@@yaboyreege7158 man at my plant we still tie in the bars with the bolts on the back plate , we got Mitsubishi machines here I think this plant been around since the 1980 it’s called NYX
Agree, with Adam... There are much more to changing molds. Unless it it's a small machine(25 tnnoes or so). Help with raw material, you don't nake kt in 10 minutes. Niw I'm a project leader but I have been changing tools for ammost 13 years before that... No pressure on the
people who are doing this...
How bout changing resin and draining dryers that's all part of my job
magnetic platters are more stress than they are worth all it takes if for someone to forget to active them boom the tools in the bed of the machine
dude, good point
If you forget to magnetize you would forget to tighten screws as well.
Any requirement for mechanical engineer in plastic industry
I use mag plates manual clamps and lenzsky clamps and I cane change either of them part to part in less than 30 minutes
What kind of mold is this that dont run water lines lol
It does, they're on the opposite side of the mould to the operator/control panel (the black pipes, you'll see them).
I change 30tons molds in 3hour. They have more than 80 connections
3hrs ha ha ha..same 30 ton hpdc die we changed in 60 mins.no tool required nly crane and one person enough..total 11 core cly and 75 cooling lines there..
I can do a mold change in 25 min tops but it’s a baby tool only 5,000 pound no impact only torque wrench for 250 ft pound
for the love of god i just want the sauce on that song
Kaha kaha Hawa pani la paip set karte hai mold me jankari
No way, thats not possible. I, ve been working almost15 years in the plastic molding injection industries in Sweden. No way you could change a mold in 10 minutes with out pre set program and pre-heating the mold, ready to go program and some one helping you with the raw material, masterbach e.tc. Like the effort though....
I do change molds for 3 years now i take around 20 too 35 mins 2 man job my boss says that with 1 more person we could do it in 10 in some rare cases (i work with 30+tons bumpers molds )
A place we do work for can do a fascia in 5 or 10 minutes. The plant spent a lot of money on equipment to make it happen. Magnetic plates, preheating stations and automated multi couplings for all the hookups. If they are not not making good parts in 20 minutes, the mold maker gets called in to see what can be done to speed it up.
I've been a setter/process tech for 20 years and I've changed tools slone in less than 10 minutes without magnetic plattens. 8 clamps, positive return ejection, two TCU'S and a pick and place robot. Last shot to first shot in just over 9 minutes, 15 minutes between last-off submittion and first off submittion to QA.
Back in the early 00's my mate and I could do a 6000Kn machine with 4000Kg tools in 15 minutes (him at the op door, me at the back door).
It can be done but I'll never say it's easy.
Operator from Bangladesh
are you sure😂???? ten minutes for only change mould ,,how about water line air line and fixing injector ,?? 😂😂😂😂😂😂you think ten minutes ,,,your liar 😂😂😂
Wiso,schrauben die alle die Auswerfer Stange raus?
Bist du dumm?
alright mold change is over, where's my material? you didn't even start blowing out the hopper yet? why'd we spend millions on this press if I have to wait for my material
very big mould
Just seems like a bolster change
Without elmate unsafety. Tool setting work instructions not followed. danger Brother pls remove the video
Installation calibration molding machine operating systems
Safety halemt
too slow i would do that change in 8 mins 1oo% fast mold setter in canada right here ...
Auto clamp
Change tooks about 3min with hand lifted crane from automotive industry, so 6 min you are doing nothing 😆
마그네틱이네... 비추천... 열림방지핀있는상태에서 문열면 금형 떠러짐. 윗단에 안전고리도안걸고..
그냥하네... 생각보다는 아직 기술력이.... 위험함.
비추
Oh god, so bad way
Yo Te hago los cambios en 10 minutos con todas las conexiones. de refrigeracion y camara caliente y barra expulsora...
Solamente lo has de hacer con un mud base y dos mangueras de agua los demas es imposible
@@estebanmoreno1636 somos. 3 cambiadores... uno conexiones de agua e hidraulicos. Y otro puente grua y camara caliente... y el otro pantalla de operador. En 10 minutos bajamos y subimos moldes de 50tn...
Whear