Jeep Gladiator Manual vs. Automatic Transmission Review
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- Welcome back to Gator Overland. In todays video we go over Pros and Cons based on a 5000 mile evaluation of the 2020 Jeep Gladiator Rubicon equipped with the 6 speed Aisin AL-6 manual transmission. This video includes an informative ride along comparing tow ratings of the manual vs. automatic, how i went about test driving to make my final decision on manual, and a brief Gladiator based manual transmission tutorial. At the price point of these Jeep trucks, deciding manual or automatic can be a difficult choice. This video could better help your final decision to go stick or auto, and/or give you the confidence to finally pull the trigger on your own Gladiator. Let us know how we are doing, please Like and Subscribe if you'd like to follow along with our overland build journey. Thanks for watching.
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It’s a bummer that there are less and less manual shift vehicles. I love the feel of shifting.
Also great video. Your channel is underrated. Great filming and great explanations.
Cooper Smith thanks for that comment, that’s great to hear! And i couldn’t agree more. We are in a world of advanced automation technology for convenience. I plan to keep this truck as long as the wheels spin, and for that, I will hold on to the manual lifestyle as long as I can to keep what’s left that era alive!
Me too.
I'm 56 and have had 12 cars, about half of them manuals. For those starting out, do not be afraid of a manual. You quickly learn it--it is not hard at all. They are made for everyone. I had a 2008 JK Unlimited Rubicon with the manual for 8 years. I loved the manual for all conditions except stop and go, as in traffic or when rock crawling. For offroading, my previous automatic XJ Cherokee in one way was better because the automatic made it easier to control momentum over obstacles. When manual shifting while rock crawling, it's easy to lose momentum.
Thanks for your valued reply! I love my manual JTR
About 20 years ago, I taught my daughter to drive in my Porsche, stick of course!
A couple of years ago she bought an suv with an AT, traded it in for a stick vehicle less than one month later.
This is the Best video of a Manual Transmission on a new Jeep I have seen.
Thanks for the reply bud! I figured it would help someone out! There wasn’t any legitimate content available when I was contemplating ordering mine, so I had to endure all the test drives. Couldn’t be happier with my manual rubicon decision.
Wow! Thanks for the reply R ELK. That exactly why I took the time to put it together. If I had those questions, I’m sure others did too, so i figured I’d shed some light on the subject. As far as the MPG @ 65mph.. that’s a great idea! I’m know there are some MPG uploads out there already, but I don’t think there are any manual specific. I get between 18-21 mpg regularly for city and highway @
If they make a manual transmission, cummins powered Gladiator in the color you have there, I would risk my wife yelling at me to buy it.
Thanks for you reply! I would risk the deaf ear for that combo too. In fact I would go diesel if that happened as well.. the fiat inspired 3.0TD is quite the mighty mite for its size.. but unfortunately it will only benefit those that want to tow with a midsize pickup and for that reason I’m happy with the gasser manual. I Haven’t regretted one day in it.
I think the bigger risk would be her driving it and letting you drive only to the gas station, or the dealership to get it serviced.😁
True😂😂
I would learn faster financially freedom to buy one out the doors , manual with Cummins diesel on jeep gladiator
@halchan7517 🤘🏼🤘🏼🤘🏼
I have a new wrangler JL with the manual. I was out of some pretty gnarly trails and steep, rocky hills. It was so cool that if I got too close to the jeep in front of me on a steep hill stopping, I push the clutch in and my rubicon just held on that steep hill. I loved it!
Absolutely!!! Love it just the same! My last wheeling trip I got “clutch thigh” the day after.. felt like it was on legged leg day at the gym soreness… feel the burn 😂🤘🏼
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@@GatorOverland I have a question, my new JL Rubicon Manual has a switch to turn of auto stop/start. I noticed that the engine does not stop when I push in the clutch at a stop light. It just idles. So why have this switch when it doesn't even function. Going on that, do the manuals even have a auxiliary battery because the main function of that battery is for the stop/start system. Do you notice this same thing?
Yes, everything functions the same as an auto with that regard and the clutch depressed is a ASS bypass.. and yes there is still and aux battery . if you release off the clutch while stick is in neutral and stopped it will turn off until you disengage the clutch.. I typically leave it in gear and depressed at a traffic light, though I’ve read depressing the clutch pedal for long periods is not good.
The another assumed reason is for legality purposes. In some states it’s law to have the vehicle in gear when at a stop and the clutch depressed rather than sitting with the stick in neutral. In the event that there was an impact from the rear the movement of the foot off the clutch would result in stalling the engine and it less likely to coast even with the brake released due to gear engagement.. in neutral it’s a possibility that that a rear impact could send the car coasting into traffic if the break released..
@@GatorOverland Thanks for the reply. I will try it again today.
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Can't wait to get me a jeep Gladiator. And definitely getting a stick shift 😁
Thanks for the reply josh! I’m confident you’ll have nothing but miles of smiles in your JT, I love mine.
great video man! Heavily considering a Manual Gladiator and it's hard to find good videos covering details on it. Thanks
You bet man.. this video is for you.. I was you this time last year.. Im now at 10k miles of smiles.. not one regret..
Just adding my feelings here Uncle Jessy. I just picked my Sport S model (I can't afford the Ruby) with the 6 speed and like he says if your not doing a lot of towing go for the manual. Shifting is smooth. I haven't driven a manual in 14 years (wow didn't think it was that long, But it was) and I got back into the flow of it with my Gladiator in 5 minutes. Like I said up above I did do a rookie move and stalled it 3 times on the lot because I forgot to disengage the parking break, but that was just me finally getting my first brand new manual transmission vehicle and getting over excited.
Jay Walker thanks for the added info! Haha I’m also about 15+ years without manual.
If you're not familure the very soft clutch makes it really easy to control
Once you drive a manual trans you really don’t want to drive anything else. Owned 4 cars all manual trans. Great vid !!!
57k miles of smile on this JT and I’ve loved every one of them
My daily driver is a 2000 Jeep Wrangler that I bought in 2001 with the 4 liter and 5 speed. My goal is to get into a Gladiator Mojave with a 6 speed, it just seems natural after so many years.
I love every mile in my manual
This truck brah...sooo the traditionally styled less-than-fullsize pickup we needed.
My old 97 ford contour had that same safety feature for reverse. I do miss that little car. That thing had some punch to it xD
Test drove a 2020 JL in July with the automatic fighting me for 15 minutes, hesitation under power, downshifting when not needed, downshifting then immediately upshifting. They didn't like me 25yr ago in my parents' cars and I still don't like them.
Order placed a few weeks ago. Manual of course.
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I’m a millennial who learned how to drive manual on a 92 Cherokee that was only about 2 years younger than me. This also became my brothers car when he got his license. He was born just after my dad purchased our Jeep. God I miss that Jeep. Can’t wait to order my Manual Gladiator in Gator to replace my ‘07 Frontier (a great truck in many ways except for having to replace the transmission).
You won’t go wrong with any JT you choose… I just rolled 12,000 miles of smiles in mine..
I LOVE LOVE LOVE my six speed manual
Thanks for the reply!! I couldn’t agree more! Enjoy your JT!
Just got a fully loaded sport in Gator Green...I like the classic look of the five spoke wheels... but damn that color just speaks to me
If towing at all go auto.. I love my manual
Loaded = auto. I love my manual cars on the weekend's. Daily commute I work too many hours to commute with a manual
you are the first one to explain the standard....when I started to drive a standard when general Custer was driving it was 3 on the tree...as you said 10 20 30 40 50 was how I was taught to shift downshifting is also a great way to save the breaks great video poss thanks for serving cheers
Thanks for the reply! I enjoy the hell out of this truck!
10 to 20 years from now these jeeps will be worth so much more $$$. Manufacturers are slowly killing of manual trans, naturally aspirated gasoline engines, & physical controls. People need to hold on to them & should take care of them.
Exactly… That’s the plan
Good job brother. Worth the wait. And you nailed the opening lol. It was clutch!
Thanks for the reply! I’m sure it will help someone like you and I with the same questions before pulling the trigger. Hope you’re enjoying your JT as much as I enjoy mine!
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I traded in my 23 gmc denali dually for the basic sport. It was a massive drop is amenities and luxury but what i really like is the manual, customizable options, softer ride, better gas, and of course my payments. The truck was the price of an apartment per month. This is so much better. I grew up with ford but never liked them. Im a gmc chevy guy too but i agree. The jeep is growing on me.
I’m a Chevy man at heart, but the Jeep has grown on me for sure. Brought us to a lot of cool places
Spot on transmission review. For a daily driver first gear does seem low but you get used to it. Clutch is almost too smooth if wearing heavy boots. 3rd and 4th are money.
If you enjoyed that review, then you will probably enjoy the upgrade I did with the ACT clutch and pro mass flywheel… Absolutely no comparison to stock… This thing is so awesome… I now have 30,000 miles on this clutch with offloading, lots of highway… And towing… This is the way the clutch should’ve come
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A manual transmission is the only way to go.
If you want a explosive transmission that is.
melvin5818 learn how to drive.
why doesn't the jeep have a dead pedal? would make driving more comfortable.
The problem with the manual is first....they messed up. LOTs of problems with it. Second, the towing ability is significantly reduced.
I agree they missed the bar on strength of design going with Aisin AL-6, but the only problem being had at this time with the transmission is the clutch integrity. Design wise the clutch is the only limiting factor for the vehicles towing capacity, And that’s mainly to avoid premature clutch wear. I would venture to say that anyone focused on buying a manual JT isn’t planing on towing over the 4000-4500lbs it’s rated for anyway. A lot of folks see the 7650lb max tow rating as this great ability for towing... it’s still a mid size truck, capable of midsize truck duties. Towing more than 5000lbs in manual or automatic is going to be a less than desirable venture anyway. The diesel on the other hand would be my choice overall if I were towing.. yes it has has tow rating slightly less than the gas, but it’s because the weight of the Diesel engine engine and components are 500lbs more than the gas, Which in turn deducts from the tow rating, but that 442 ft/lb of torque is going to launch you where ever you need to go. If needing to comfortably tow over 5000lbs often, a 1/2 or 3/4 ton should be considered. Other than that, I have 18k miles of smiles in my manual JT and no problems.
Really solid video my man, restoring my faith that there are genuinely good car reviews out there
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Bought my Rubicon Unlimited today, out of 20 or so only stick on the lot. Sarge Green, think yours is a little more olive green which I like a bit more. Unless it is Sarge and is just lighting or something.
Yessir, mine is gator clear. It’s more of an dull tan/green than the sarge green. I love it, but I would have bought the JT 10 times over if it came in sarge green. That color looks fantastic.
Manual transmission is cool!!!! Good job, nice Jeep.
Thanks for the reply! I’m love it
I got a 2021 jeep gladiator sport with the manual I love it
🤘🏼🤘🏼🤘🏼🤘🏼 57k miles of smiles over here and no issues…
My last 3 jeeps have been manuals. My Corvette Z06 is a manual. When I went in to test drive a Gladiator, I started with a manual, as I assumed that is what I'd be purchasing. I couldn't believe how soft the clutch was. No feel at all. Then I drove the auto. It is good. In Canada it's a $1700 dollar option, and as much as it pains me to say, it's totally worth it.
I agree the clutch is a bit soft and takes getting used to. I went in for a clutch recall and part of the procedure was bleeding the clutch line, and that made incredible difference on feel. When this clutch life is up, I’m going centerforce.
I bought a manual JL and absolutely hated the clutch. It was way too soft and was crunchy. The flex plate was replaced twice and they just could not get the crunchy feeling out of the clutch. I also felt the manual was just the wrong transmission for the 3.6. The 3.6 has almost no torque below 1800 rpm. I sold it and bought the automatic. This is the first auto i have ever owned (at age 55) and IMO i believe it is a much better match for the 3.6. To each is own though. I'm glad your manual is working for you as I normally would prefer the manual.
You’re right about everything said. Auto is the “all do it” ..
Never liked mine from day 1. Planned on replacing it after 2 yrs. but it didn't even make it pass 25000 km. Now, it's a beast.
I found 1 & 2nd quick, hold 3rd to gain speed, go into 4th to continue then put it in OD
I have a 2 door JL Rubicon 6sps which was extremely hard to find on a lot. I installed the b&m shifter in my JL, it helped make the shifts even tighter and gave it a more gated feel. I'm really interested in the Mojave Gladiator but really want them to build a 2 door version.
Hey! Thanks for the reply! You definitely have a rare jewel. I’ve seen B&M’s shifter! Its outstanding!! I’ll definitely be considering that upgrade in the future. I absolutely love my JT, especially since installing the “ultimate” MOPAR kit. I thought the rubicon package was great, but this combo has it beat. I like the Mojoave platform, they definitely need an in between from sport and rubicon that wasn’t crawl orientated. Just wished it still came with the locking front diff and sway bar disconnect, but then I guess that would make it a rubicon with a stronger frame and a 2.7 crawl ratio. No doubt you will love it for what it is.
@@GatorOverland I heard a lot of negative things about the Mopar kit so I went with the Teraflex 2.5" kit for the same price. I did the Teraflex track bar and falcon steering stabilizer too, so we'll see how I like it. Should be done the installation tomorrow. I definitely agree on the front locker, I wish they'd more power in the Mojave, so it could be a real desert runner. A V8 or a supercharger would make it awesome.
Best video on manual transmission for jeep jl &jt.
I love your build.
I owned 4 manual Jeep’s in the last 50 years and now waiting for my 2021 jl manual sport s ordered 10 weeks ago.
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Traded in my Jk Rubicon Recon last weekend for a JT Rubicon. Of course I went with 🐊clear coat, that was a must as soon as I saw the color was available. I hope I love this Jeep as much as my last Wrangler.
Awesome! Thanks for the reply Brian! I have no doubt in my mind that your JT will match out stand the capabilities of your JK. The benefit of the bed alone will probably take the cake on your decision. Enjoy your JT!
Gator_Overland thank you kindly! I’m enjoying your channel, keep up the good content! 🐊🐊🐊🐊🐊🐊
At around 21:15, you mention a magnet in the key fob. When I had a Ram Rebel, before buying my new Gladiator, I had asked about batteries in the key fob. At the time, it was explained to me that the buttons require batteries to operate, but that when starting, it was just an RFID tag, separate from the battery. So just the presence of the RFID (unpowered) was enough to enable the ignition.
That’s correct, but it has to be in close proximity of the start button and/or to press the start button with the key. When the battery is functioning properly as long as the key is in the proximity of the cab you can start the vehicle. Generally there is a dash notification that says “key fob battery low”
I have a 6-speed manual JL Rubicon and the 8-speed auto JT Rubicon. The reason I ordered the JT with the 8-speed is I’ve had issues with the wrangler and the 6-speed manual where thanks to the ESS. If I forget to shut the system off and try to take off too soon before the engine gets a chance to restart sufficiently, I can stall the motor and sometimes I will have to wait until the PCM powers down and then I can restart the car. When this happens I am literally disabled wherever this happens for about 2-3 minutes until the PCM resets. The clutch grabs high on the Jeep and definitely takes some getting used to if you transitioned from manual sports cars such as Porsche, BMW or even Vipers etc. The 6-speed shifts smooth enough for typical jeep driving, but if you try to shift like you were still driving a 911 / Z06 you will definitely feel your blood pressure go up. The 8-speed auto is great in the Wrangler but good in the Gladiator, this might be because the Gladiator is about 400 lbs porkier than its Wrangler counterpart and in so is a little more hesitant to upshift during similar driving conditions. In the end I think if anyone lives in more rural or suburban areas the 6-speed is great, but if you live in more heavily populated areas like I do in NYC (or plan on towing with the jeep), you are going to be better off with the 8-speed auto granted you do lose the millennial anti-theft feature with the 6-speed.
Great reply, I couldn’t agree more…
I sold my Challenger 575 Hemi for a manual Gladiator Sport. Mainly because I didn’t like the way the Dodge window does a little jog when closing the door. On super cold days, it would stick until warm. Whereas a Jeep is usable winter and summer
Smart move.. I still love my manual gladiator
I bought a new 97 manual TJ and drove it for 7 years, loving every minute of it. Fast forward to now, a few vehicles later. 3 weeks ago I ordered a Gladiator with an automatic. I wanted a manual, but the practical side of me said these old legs might not like the shifting in a few years, so I opted for the automatic. The next day I saw your video and watching you shifting made me wish I had ordered the manual. After a couple weeks of coulda, woulda, shoulda's, the impulsive side of me sold my 06 Mustang convertible (automatic) and yesterday I walked in and ordered my new Wrangler Willys 2 door soft top MANUAL!! I can't wait till it gets here and have some driving fun again! I think your video kind of pushed me over the edge - ha!!! I really enjoyed your vid.
Thanks so much for the reply!! There weren’t enough evaluations out for the manual at the time of my ordering so I made one myself. This ones for you. Enjoy your JL bud. I’ll have some new content out soon. Currently camping 1100 miles away from home in the San Juan mountains of Colorado. 🤙🏼
A really great video for anyone that is thinking that an automatic trans is the only choice. And your "training" for millennials on shifting was perfect. Owned manual XJ and JK (30yrs) and they were great. but clearly, the 2020 manuals are far, far better shifting than my old 2010 JK. Maybe you will find someone that lets you drive an old JK, and you will appreciate your Gladiator even more. Sadly, only two trucks left that can come with manual transmissions, the JT and the Tacoma. But with the need for a 6.5ft bed, I just bought a 2022 F150 with the 400HP V6 with a 10 speed automatic. But I think the Ford's 23mpg will save me $1000 a year......
😂 I appreciate that!! Yes I had a 79 CJ5 w/ AMC 304 and borg-Warner T150 3spd.. I know all about how nice these new models are by comparison.. my 285hp can’t touch 400 unless i hemi-up.. I still manage 18-20mpg with 400-500lbs of gear and 37’s, so it’s not too bad for a brick
I had a JK m/t and now a Gladiator Mohave m/t. Big difference in the manual transmission on the JL/JTs. And I don't miss the heavily vibrating shift stick in JK. JL/JT m/t feels like a car's m/t instead of a truck's transmission.
It’s actually a cable operated shifter much like modern sports cars, that’s why it’s so smooth..
My ideal Gladiator would be the Overland model with the I6 Hurricane engine and a manual transmission.
Jeep, I hope you're listening.
Absolutely! As soon as I saw the hurricane stats I immediately thought the same.. unfortunately it’s only slated for ram 1500 and wagoneer at this time 400 and 500hp sounds really nice .
I just purchased 2021 Wrangler JLU a couple of weeks ago. I have had the old Cherokees before, but decided to get my first Wrangler. The JLU is a great vehicle so far. I have the manual as well (grew up with them), and my average is 21.7 mpg right now. I haven't been on the Interstate yet, this is just country roads.
That’s awesome to hear! I’m 32k miles of smiles and no regrets. I was about that fuel eco before the 37’s and then it went down to 16-18mpg between 65-70mpg. I recently regeared to 5.13 gears and have regained use of 6th gear, low end torque and now getting 20-22mpg at 65-70mph. 🤘🏼
@@GatorOverland Holy crap! 16-18mpg with 37's is what I was getting in my Silverado with 34" Nittos. I thought it would be worse than that. Good to know.
Yes, the trick is to keep it under 72mph.. The arrow dynamics when resistance starts to impede the performance of the engine to maintain fuel efficiency after that
Great video bro! Still getting used to this transmission!
Awesome!! 56k miles of smile over here.. loved every one of them.. I’ll probably go with centerforce or ACT clutch upgrade.. it’s supposed to increase grip and clutch sensitivity.. it was designed light so that when auto start stop didn’t have to work as hard with a heavier clutch/flex plate
Normally would say the manual, but the 8-speed auto is so good, and has a manual shift application, so have to lean that way.
I totally agree with you. I went manual out of preference, and trying to hold on to what nostalgia of the jeep heritage is left… Plus I want any children I may have to learn manual… Other than that, automatic is the way to go for sure, especially if you are towing… Enjoy your JT
But if doesn’t have the “fun pedal” doesn’t work for me. Jeep is a car for the people that likes to drive...
@@arthurstoys7981 totally agree
Think of it this way having the 6 speed is an anti theft device that you basically get paid $2000 to have installed. I'm not that young (mid 30's) and the number of people I know who can actually drive a stick can be counted on my fingers and I saved that $2000 when I ordered mine.
Picked up my manual sting gray jtr about two weeks ago love it!
Hell yea!! That’s what I’m talking about!! 🤘🏼
Bud, I appreciate your enthusiasm and charisma and your last tip about the key fob is priceless. The only issue I've had with my JL is the key battery doesn't seem to last very long and that is a lifesaver tip! God I miss driving my manual TJ but got my JL with Auto so my (now soon to be ex-wife) could also drive it. Love a manual transmission although if you are doing rock crawling, auto is the way to go.
Awesome… Thanks for reaching out and taking the time to comment… I agree rock crawling in an auto is easier… But I love doing it in my manual…
I'm ready for a new one, but diesel & manual gearbox is a must for me.
I wish I could sneak a Toyota Series 70 into the country.
You’re speaking my language! I’d love a yota 70!!!
@@GatorOverland available in just about every country on the planet, but not USA :>(
I want a manual Mojave Gladiator in Gator green with beige leather seats. Always enjoyed manual transmissions. Took my driving test at 16 with a “three on the tree” column shift on a Dodge truck.
Thanks for the reply!! Go get one! Even if you have to order it and wait 8 weeks like I did, atleast you get what you want! They are bad ass!!
I can drive with it on the floor. Only ever got to try it once on the tree, I could do it just didn't like the feel of it. I was so excited to finally get another manual that i stalled it 3 times on the lot because i pulled the biggest rookie mistake and forgot to disengage the parking break.
Jay Walker 😂
Nice video, I too have a jt gladiator manual and love it. Traded in my 16 Silverado and wouldn’t have got the gladiator if it was an automatic!
Kyle and the crew we have alot I common, mine was a ‘14 and if it wasn’t for the great resale I’d still be in it.. this gladiator was quite the price tag, but totally worth it!
you said it. A manual in stop and go traffic. A deal breaker straight away if you live in the city. Auto the way to go regardless of brand
most people don't understand the level of control you gain with a manual gearbox, over an automatic that always seems to shift at the wrong time, or doesn't respond the way you want it to... love those tan seats
I just bought a brand new soft top Gladiator Rubicon in gunmetal gray with LED’s, a leather interior, a 8 inch display screen, and last but not least, a 6 speed manual ! I traded in my bare bones 2017 2 door JK Wrangler Sport (which was also a manual), mainly because I wanted to get a new vehicle as my warranty was coming to an end, and because I needed something with just a bit more tow capacity. I recently bought a 2200 pound 17 foot boat with a 500 pound trailer, and my JK could only safely tow up to 2,000 pounds so I definitely couldn’t tow with it.
My brother has the automatic Sport S Gladiator with the max tow package. Although his is rated for 7650 pounds and my manual Rubicon is rated for 4500, I’m a diehard manual enthusiast, especially when it comes to sports cars and off-road vehicles. I don’t like driving automatic and 4500 is more than plenty for me. I have actually borrowed my brother’s gladiator a few times when I needed to pull my boat and I found that despite the higher tow rating, the automatic 8 speed transmission was constantly hunting for gears when it was pulling the boat, and my total load was only around 2700 pounds. I had to put it into manual mode and shift it so that it would stop annoyingly hunting for gears but even then it would sometimes still automatically downshift or upshift... Also with the automatic Gladiator, there was no engine braking whatsoever like there would be in a manual when downshifting as you’re coming to a stop. I had to constantly ride the brakes which was annoying.
I have done my research and found that the manual Gladiators are only rated lower than the automatics to ensure maximum clutch life. That means if the occasional need to tow over my capacity ever arose, I could safely do so as I wouldn’t be unstable and unable to safely come to a stop. It would just slightly affect my clutch life which wouldn’t matter because there would only be a handful of times where I’d ever need to tow over capacity, if at all. For smaller loads under a maximum of 5,000 pounds, I’m pretty sure the manual Gladiator will actually do a better job of towing than the automatic since you can choose exactly what gear you want it to be in and keep it there, and because you can engine brake when coming to a stop and driving down a hill.
I had to wait a few months to even test drive a manual Gladiator, because of the recall for the clutch pressure plates on the manual JT’s, as well as JL’s and JLU’s. It was well worth it, despite having to drive 250 miles to find the one I wanted as there were no manuals near me locally, especially the Rubicons. I fell in love instantly when I test drove it and ended up driving home with it. The clutch was so light that it made my JK’s clutch feel like a tractor’s clutch in comparison (and I’ve always considered my JK’s clutch to be pretty light before I tried this one).The shift throws were also nice and short, about half as long as the JK’s, and the shifter was so light that I could actually shift it with just my thumb instead of fully grabbing onto it with my hand.
Some people may find that the gearing is too tall but I personally love it. It’s great for off-roading and I never need to shift above 4th gear unless I’m on the highway. The ride is also a lot smoother compared to the JK being that it’s a truck with a much longer wheelbase, as well as Jeep overall improving the ride quality of the 2018+ models. I also love all the off road features I get on the Rubicon like the 4.10 gears, front and rear electronic locking diffs, electronic sway bar disconnect that also automatically reconnects, fox shocks, trail cam, pitch angle display, etc etc.
All in all, I’m super happy with my purchase and super glad I waited out the recall so that I could test drive the manual and make the long 250 mile drive home with one ! Thanks for the video and I hope you continue having many happy miles with your Gladiator :)
i have a JT Sport and you can not release the clutch from a stop without giving it some gas. I do have slightly larger than stock tires and wheels, approx 33 x 12 on 20" wheels
Yes, with a sport I can imagine it takes a little more umph to get going. The 4.10s are no problem. When I went to 37’s the undergearing was very apparent, much like it would be for you with 373’s and larger tire size. I have sense regear’d to 513 and have no regrets. Best decision, especially if wheeling at high elevation
I'm looking for a 2 door wrangler but this video is still very helpful
Absolutely… Every bit the same, just shorter😂
This is one of the BEST Gladiator vids I've ever seen. Thank you for this content!!
(my first car was a manual, and that's all I drive. I can't wait for my new Gladiator!
Thanks for taking the time to watch and comment. I figured it would be helpful for like minded souls that want a manual JT. I just rolled 25k miles of smiles and love it every day.
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What a fun truck. Thank you for review.
61k miles of smiles.. I’ve love every mile, every shift, every day.. 🤘🏼
Great video I should have my 2021 JL rubicon in a couple weeks. I had to special order seeing no dealers had a Manuel shift. My 2012 JK is auto and I just feel like it would shift too much trying to find the right gear. Can’t wait I also got the saddle interior so sharp.
I went the same route for the same reasons and it saved me about $10k, and the peace of mind knowing I didn’t have to settle for more or less. I just rounded 26k miles of smiles and no issues or regrets going manual rubicon.
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Great video! Thanks for the hands on look. Reminded me of some things I have forgotten about when driving a manual transmission. It’s been about 16 years!
You bet dale! This one is for you bud! I have 13k miles of smiles now in the JT and not one regret!
This is one of the few vehicles where the automatic is thoroughly better mechanically than the manual. I still went with a manual because I prefer driving stick, but the 8 speed zf is one of the best “slush box” autos ever made
Totally agree!! My 6spd is incredible now that I’ve upgraded the clutch to the ACT JP6 and promass flywheel.. wheels the 37’s way better than the stock clutch
Great video. I'll put it on my shopping list when I'm ready for my next vehicle.
Just rolled 62k miles of smiles! No regrets! It’s brought us a lot of cool places. 🤘🏼🤘🏼
Great reveiw! I have a 2-door JL Manual Sport. The transmission was the selling point for me, smooth with short throws. I have about 6k on the 3.6 with an average of 28mpg. Gears due run fairly long, but the engine feels great at lower RPMs. My old Subaru hated anything below 2.5k RPM. The short wheelbase can get a little sketchy on the interstate past 55mph, but I understand my brick with 4 wheels isnt made for speed lol.
Thanks for the reply! You’re exactly right!!
Only manual stick ! Thank you for sharing !
Absolutely! 50k miles strong!! 🤘🏼
Manual in everything for me!
That’s what I’m talking about!!!
Top shelf channel. Appreciate you taking the time in giving us a great tutorial. Your video is very rare in giving us true detail for the manual option. Thank you!
Wow! Thanks for the kind reply! This video is for you! I just rolled 13k miles of smile and no issues. I passed the clutch recall stress test too.. the current models already have the upgrade clutch provisions installed. Enjoy your JT!
@@GatorOverland working on getting a gladiator at the moment. As of right now they've got me with a demo for a week with the sport s. But manuals here in the great Northwest are hard to get because they're gobbled up in matter of moments.
No doubt!! I’d love to have my manual up that way in the next year or so. If i didn’t get the trade in value i did for my Z71, I would definitely have gone sport s auto (can’t get the 4.10 axle D44 with manual in sport/s) so manual rubicon it was.. I have not one regret. I see the LED’s are offered on sports now, if you can manage it, I would highly recommend over the std halogen option. I ordered mine and it took about 10 weeks to arrive.. I saw the next colors to be available are sarge green, gecko, and nacho... if the sarge came in a hemi option I’m afraid I’d be headed to the dealership to trade up, but I’m more than happy with my current configuration. Check out my insta, @gator_overland I gave some off-road clips loaded
@@GatorOverland will do. Thanks again and during these times take good care of yourself and your family, cheers!
C. M. Same to you and yours, sláinte!
Wanted a manual so bad but got a sport s with the 8 speed because I want to tow my drift car across country, wanted the extra insurance that I could tow for 2-3000 miles at a time. Girlfriend now wants one now and I am definitely making sure it’s a manual so I can have best of both worlds 😂
I have no doubt you will love them both. 🤘🏼
You need to put in a Gator coloured dash
😂I miss my 6 speed manual 2 door jk, but the auto gladiator is nice during the commute home. Maybe I’ll find a used 2 door JL with manual in the next few years.
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I have a JK manual, so same engine. I’ve found that premium 91 octane makes it way easier to start moving with very little rpm and clutch and casually driving. You gain a lot of power below 2000 rpm due to engine not pulling timing for anti knock. It’s probably not noticeable with an automatic but it makes it much easier in a manual, so much so that my wife even noticed it when she put regular in it, not realizing I had been putting premium in for the last two years.
That is great info! Thanks for the heads up!
Great video bro, been out of the manual game for ten years and just bought a 2020 jl manual a month ago (my mid life crisis rig). Thought I was doing something wrong, but you're right. 3000 seems to be the sweet spot, big difference from the ford's and tacoma's I had back in the day. 1st is a really short shift, Thanks for taking the time to shoot this. Appreciate it👍
You bet man!! This ones for you!! Enjoy your JL bud.. what color and where from?
@@GatorOverland Granite crystal metallic, 2 door sport S. 3.6 From Kamaaina motors Hilo Hi, dealerships don't bring in many manuals. Had to wait for this one, don't ask what I paid for it....being a jeep guy, you already know they ain't cheap
Oh i know.. it’s a don’t ask, don’t tell.. always.. and dont dare tell what you have in one as far as upgrades either. 😂😂
Great Video....big fan of your Gator Green color and manual transmission.
Thanks for the reply!! 13k miles of smiles and I like it more everyday!
Gator_Overland ....subscribed...looking forward to future videos
Damn these things look cool.
As an owner of a manual 392 challenger, I'd love one of these with a manual transmission and v8.
That would be awesome! And no questions would I trade up.. unfortunately the aisin transmission in these trucks are only rated for 375hp& torque…
Great video, thank you and subbed because of it. Best review of manual I've found
Thanks i appreciate that, this video is for you. I was you before I made the video.
Love having a stick and so true that most young thieves can’t drive them, but my Gladiator is an auto. Worn out knees and ankles keep me from owning another one unless I can buy a classic muscle car then I’ll deal with the pain.
Defiantly worth the pain in an old classic
Want the manual. Been looking for this review for some time. Thanks.
47k miles of smiles and still love it !
I often shift from 4th to OD 6th when Im carrying good momentum but it will not accel outta that gear at 1000-1500 rpm
You’re an awesome teacher. Glad I found this video. Would you ever consider making a video of why and when to lock sways and 4h 4l that sort of thing?
That’s actually a great idea, at least to provide my subscribers with info. In the mean time, there are many videos out there about this. Check out Bubba Ryan with @exodusjeeps he’s got some excellent info about similar stuff. Thanks for the suggestion
thanks for the review. I seriously am leaning toward a manual
I just rolled 20k miles of smiles and no regrets or issues.. some will say it’s a sacrifice of modern abilities... so be it.. you want a manual, get a manual!😂.. i test drove sport s, overland and rubicon manuals as well as autos before making the decision on ordering.. no regrets going hard top either. If you tow more than 4000lb more often than not, you may consider the auto.
I hate Chrysler, but gladiator and wrangler are awesome (when they don't catch on fire). 5 speed is the way to go
Very good review and very detailed. Now I want a manual Gladiator lol
Thanks for the reply! I just rolled 10k miles of smiles.. no regrets
It sounds like the Gladiator is a clutch upgrade away from being able to tow the same as the auto. Similar to the G56 Ram. Throw a dual disk clutch and tune at it and let her eat.
😂😂 thats right!! It’ll void the warranty, but I’ll probably go centerforce when it’s clutch change time... mine passed the recall clutch health test, so we should be good....for now
Just bought a manual Gladiator Rubicon with a hardtop this past weekend. That saved me $3500! No one wanted it. I paid $44600, plus taxes and fees.
Hell yes!! You won’t regret it bud.. I can say I don’t like traffic in a manual, but that’s about the only thing. 32k miles of smiles and no regrets, just regear’d to 5.13’s after a year on 37’s and 4.10’s.. I was still managing 16-18mpg between 65-70mph.. but lost low end torque and use of 6th gear.. now I’m at 20-22mpg between 65-70mph🤘🏼.. driving faster than 72mph will drastically decrease your fuel eco.. with the manual, shift at 3k between gears 1-3 and all will be good.. I paid 49k for mine, you got a great deal, you won’t regret going rubicon, ever! 🤘🏼.
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Own two manual Jeeps, wouldn't change to an automatic. Nice choice on the manual Rubicon JT and thanks for the video!
You bet! Just rolled 25k miles of smiles! Love it everyday!
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I TRIED TO GET A MANUAL ONE they wouldn't sell it to me because of the recall on them had to settle with an automatic still bummed about it but on the + side if i do decide to sell it i can actually get buyers since most people now days cant even drive manual vehicles
Very true.. I have days where an auto would have been the better choice (towing, traffic, city driving) but at the end of the day I still love the stick.
I have a question, I heard that some older wrangler jeeps with manual transmissions could be damage if you press down the clutch during a river passing or deep mud; something about the transmission was open to the elements. Does anyone know if the gladiator has the same issue?
I have not heard of this, but anything is possible when you involve high water and/or mud..
Just an incredible video especially detailing the Manual drive.
Thanks for taking the time to watch and comment… Just roll 26,000 miles of smiles… I love it every day
@@GatorOverland for sure found yourself a new subscriber.
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John great looking Gladiator, I really like the interior color choice as it’s not the common black color...
Little known fact that a manual transmission can be more fun than the 99.9% auto boxes sold now a days. Yes you’ll have those situations that you wish you’d purchased an automatic, but once you learn to watch the traffic ahead of you that’s a wash also...
Nice video and I subscribed.
Thanks Hugh! I believe we’re actually friends on Facebook. Yes, manuals definitely make you more aware of your driving environment, especially when navigating through town. How to negotiate lights, traffic, speed vs. gear.. it’s all the fun!
My friend it's a nice jeep I love it you really need to invest in a good microphone I can hardly hear anything with my Bluetooth speaker
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Wish more new trucks had stick-shift. I prefer stick and old trucks but it’d be nice if new trucks had it too.
Save the manuals! Unfortunately in the United States manual transmissions are a dying breed and will eventually be obsolete… As we move closer to a world of electric vehicles and automated vehicles there is no need for the manual transmission… People can’t drive them, car manufactures save money by not having the extra tooling. However, in other parts of the world it’s 80 to 90% manual because it’s less expensive and cheaper to maintain
Dude I’m sold I’m gunna pick one up for the business tomorrow I think
Bad ass !!! Just rounding 66k in mine and have loved every one..
@@GatorOverland 66k miles? That’s great to hear the one I’m eyeing has about 9k and is about to get sent to auction… didn’t pull trigger this weekend. Going to try and get a deal on it before they send it off if not going to be patient for the right one to come along for the right price
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Late to it but the tow rating get its butt hammered plus any kind of lease or residual. They should have used a real truck clutch.
Yes, unfortunately they had to have down the weight of flywheel to work with auto start stop starter. When the clutch fails I will go with Centerforce clutch upgrade
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Venture4wd? I’ve learned a lot from him. I’d buy him a pizza and a beer if I ever met him..
Thank you for this video. Very informative!
That’s what it’s therefore bud… There wasn’t one when I was looking and trying to make my decision… I don’t regret going with a manual or with the Rubicon, but I definitely think it’s worth going with the Rubicon in the manual for the 410 gears if you plan to upgrade to 35 or bigger tires. I have no doubt you will enjoy your jt.
I test drove a Manual Gladiator and really didn't like it, but I think it was because that Hill stop assist was on! Definitely need to test drive another with that off. It felt really weird.
Yes I believe the hill assist had a lot to do with your driving experience… But I can’t say directly whether it is in your best interest to tow 3500 pounds or not… If you’re planning on towing at all with a manual transmission you should probably look into the Rubicon because it offers a 4500 pound tow capacity and the 4.10 gears.. if you go with any less model you are only optioned with 4000lb tow rating and 3.73 gears.. that said I know 3 rubicon manuals that tow 5th wheels often.. the issue lies with where you intend to tow.. if your flat land, no problem, if you’re in the mountains or hills it’s a lot to consider ..
Thanks for this vid! I’m about to trade in or sell my 2020 High Country w/6.2 for a manual gladiator. I’ll miss the heads up display and the POWER!, but I’ll welcome a stick shift back in my life, and not trying to park my beast at the mall!
Thanks for taking the time to watch and comment! About to roll 60k miles of a mile. I came from a 2014 Z71 and yes, there is a power decrease, but I never really used the Silverado for the power any way. No regrets going JT.. I love it every mile, every day. Let me know if you have any other questions.. happy to help!🤘🏼🤝
I wanted to know if the auto will perform better or manual? Because of Auto's 2.0 L engine. But the manual 3.0L + engine. So considering the fuel cost I think 2.0? Or 2 models are the same. However, the manual is always the best.
thanks for taking the time to comment.
It all will vary in your environmental conditions, and elevations.
The wrangler is offered in
2.0 gas (auto only)
2.0 gas hybrid 4xE (auto only)
3.6 gas (manual/auto)
3.0 diesel (auto only)
The gladiator is offered in
3.6 gas (manual/auto)
3.0 diesel (auto only)
I would say these days Manuel is more for the enthusiast and purist. In the United States manual is a dying breed. Everything is going auto or electric, Because it is easier to monitor and more convenient for most folks. The 2.0 engine is surprisingly powerful but if you plan on doing any lift kit or tires you will probably suffer on the fuel economy.
The 3.6 gas is a bulletproof engine and continues to be a reliable and mostly efficient engine for nearly all conditions.
The 3.0 diesel is extremely powerful but comes with the added maintenance of diesels which can be costly not to mention diesel being extremely expensive to buy these days… You will get the most fuel economy out of the diesel for distance, but cost will probably equal out to the same that gas vehicles, though less economic, the fuel is cheaper.
So decide where the rubber meets the road what would most benefit you for all around convenience… If you want power go diesel but I understand there are cons… if you want middle of the road go with 3.6… If you want the best of both worlds go with 4XE
Differences in performance between models is negligible… The main difference would be your equipment… If you’re mostly Highway and don’t off-road, go with anything but a Rubicon.
Great video my friend!! Thanks for mentioning my channel too. My build is definitely worth looking at.......one of a kind. I will be at Overland Expo West this May in Flagstaff Arizona 🤘🏼
SnoopyJeep you bet man! Thanks for the reply! That’s what it’s all about.. people gotta know.. they have questions, we have answers! Keep it up bud!
LIKED AND SUSCRIBED.... I'm in LA and having a super hard time fining a manual... don't care that I'm in LA!
Thanks for the reply! I love my manual. Just lessen the odds of not finding one and do like I did and order it.. took 8 weeks but I got all that I wanted and no extras that dealers typically order. Dealers around my area are either base model or the cream of the crop.. no model area. I ordered a middle area
Thanks. Good to know. Looks like I’ll be purchasing some skinny jeans soon.
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Wish you had covered 6th gear highway driving. RPM AT 70 MPH? How that compares to automatic cruising RPM?
Message me on gator_overland Instagram, and I will send you that video…
Thanks for the video! I myself own a 2020 Manual JLR (2 door) and did not know about hill-start assist... I am so turning that off. As I thought the stalling at stoplights was being caused by the auto engine shut off. I guess I need to test now with that off, thanks for letting me know about something I was not aware of. I also find the clutch engages late on this transmission compared to my Toyota FJ's manual trans, so it does have a different feel.
Hey! Thanks for the reply! You bet! You are probably correct about the auto start stop having something to do with it. I just hit the button with my pinky the same time I start the engine to disable it. I to have noticed the clutch engagement is a bit late, almost comparable to be being binary.. it’s either engaged or not, there’s not really an in between “riding the clutch” feel.. over the miles i have become more accustomed to the clutch operation and seems more second nature now. Enjoy your JLR 🤘🏼
i had a manual transmission TJ, and a manual transmission JK. absolutely LOVE LOVE LOVE shifting my own gears. but i stepped up to a JL and wanted to try out that 2.0 I4, which is automatic only. I'm kinda torn cause that automatic is SOOOO good... it gives you such a slow ability to crawl through obstacles that are more technical. where the manual you let the clutch out and just GO. no left foot braking to inch your way though. the auto definitely makes it much easier to navigate the really technical stuff.
I totally agree. I like the performance of the auto, but the raw technical skill it takes to work the manual
Clutch intro my dude
Thanks! Ive recently swapped the clutch to the act aftermarket clutch and promass flywheel.. such an incredible difference!! 🤘🏼
@@GatorOverland I’m looking at a gladiator sport. The price is marked down big time and it has the 6spd. After new tires, I think the ACT clutch kit would be upgrade #2
I watched that vid of yours as well…this thing only having stock 260ft-lbs of torque and 4000lbs tow is lousy
You ain’t kidding! Yes, currently the clutch failure rate is only about 1%, which is under 1000 JL/JT’s (not that many, but the failure potential is still there)
I absolute love my manual, and even Moreso with the new clutch system. I Absolutely recommend the ACT system, and you’d be smart for the upgrade even as stock for peace of mind. 🤝
Didnt the manual for the gladiator get recalled recently? Good ole FCA does it again!!!
The recall for the manual gladiator was from the folks who provide their clutches… There were fractures and some of the clutch plates during manufacturing… So by default FCA eats crow for a mfg defect by the supplier.. is affected less than 1% of the way it was made… At the time of the recall it was only about 35,000 manuals produced both Jl and JT
@@GatorOverland good to know! I have a manual JK and am getting the manual JL when I upgrade this winter!
I have 32k of smiles and no regrets. It wheels great! I recently went 5.13 gears after 20k miles on 37’s with the 4.10’s.. incredible difference!! Low end performance is back, 6th gear is back and and getting 20+ mpg between 65-70mph, up from 16-18mpg.. ..
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Very informational bro, appreciate you taking the time🤙🏼
You bet! Thanks for taking the time to watch and comment!