When a car manufacturer sells faulty/dangerous vehicles they have to do a recall and remedy all those affected at their own cost. Don’t see how there can’t be legislation to force the same outcome on developers.
@@fredfredrickson5436not true. Less than 30% of us turn out to vote for it at anyone time. That means 70% know there is not a decent box to tick. It's just students with no life experience. It ain't gonna get any better. Don't blame us.. Then again. The French would have guillotined the lot ages ago.
@@paulgibbons2320 It's the over 50s that vote, not kids. But I agree there is no box to tick. The only chance we've had for a change of direction in my lifetime was under Corbyn and McDonald and you saw how they were savaged universally by the media and by their own party. If Corbyn would've had more spine and less baggage I truly believe he'd have been assassinated.
@@fredfredrickson5436 I agree about Corbyn. It's such a shame he had no balls in interview. The party were his baggage. I honestly could not envisage the bunch of harpies and back stabbers in power. Brexit has killed them. Marxism can't survive democracy.
This is so sad. I would never believe that people living in a first-world nation like the UK would have to experience the horror of losing their homes. Truly sad.
The middle class voted for these deregulating neoliberal lead governments which administered the piss on the poor policy for decade upon decade. Now they are losing THEIR roof over THEIR heads... boo hoo boo hoo. I didn't hear these people revoltinging against the neoliberalism which put poor people out on the streets over the last 40 plus years
Definitely a corruption issue, the developers must pay for it! Residents must resist and fight back... the developers are insured and owned by billionaires...
Their contract not mine. Saying the government should pay for it is the same as saying I should pay for it. NO. People voted for more dangerous buildings. They voted for neoliberal lead governments which promised deregulation.
This situation is the result of systemic failure of developers. At best incompetence at worst endemic corruption. All this in plain sight of a government that has no interest in holding corporate developers to account. Why are company executives being allowed to avoid responsibility for their deliberate actions to undermine building safety and quality. Where are local authority planning departments and building control departments, hiding under their desks? The ‘authorities’ are totally complicit in this horrendous lack of supervision.
Where was Local Authority Building Control!!!!? Where these signed off by Private Building Inspectors that will sign off anything to keep the customer/developer happy. These poor people God help them
Local authorities are so strapped for cash that I doubt any of them employ more than one or two building inspectors, and are forced then to contract out inpsections to private companies that made the lowest price bid.
I think that's the saddest thing, as the next part of the segment delved into pretty sound criticisms of landlordism that you don't often hear in our groupthink society.
I have lived in the UK for 8 years. And I am ABSOLUTELY SHOCKED by British building standards. I usually say things like... Its like America builds cars. They look like the real things from a distance. But once you get closer and actually look, you realise that it isn't. Brits pay full price for a building, but the build quality, fit & finish is absolutely terrible.
You know why? Because most buildings are being built through Design & Build procurement. If people just go back to traditional procurement + assigned clerks of works for the clients we won’t have thus problem at all.
@@Shayoyeye5223 I have lived in the... Slums of Birmingham as a student to living in a completely newly built house. The standards are shockingly bad regardless. Were talking standards like you would see in Poland and some ex soviet countries. When I was back to living in the UK for 2016-2018, I lived in the extremely expensive, super posh villages around the Thames, and its the same story all over again. British housing standards are just incredibly low. But try to tell them that... Almost impossible. They live in the idea that they are better than other countries. Probably due to being slightly better than southern countries. But they don't have to deal with the British weather, do they.
@@j.harrison6744 Hahaha no. There is nobody else to blame this on. The EU has restrictions and regulations. Far tighter than the UK has. Or... There are plenty of those in the UK too. But it doesn't look like they are followed. Or houses are built to JUST squeak by the rules. I really don't know. But the quality of life in the UK is truly amazingly low compared to countries that you would think it was safe to compare with. But I know, I know... Telling Brits this is very difficult. But Im also 100% sure I could find rot and mold in your house. And that's not normal.
I've been pulled off several projects because I held builders to the specifications that they were to be paid for. I was deemed "a troublemaker", "difficult to work with", and anything else to deflect from best practice. As a consequence, my career and financial well-being suffered when all I wanted to do was act with integrity and see that the end user got the best possible dwelling for their money. Towards the end of the 1990's, I was aware that the pending changes to the 'Landlord & Tenants Act' was going to lean towards the Landlord's interest. I left the city in which I was born and raised to avoid becoming a leaseholder. Grenfell tower fire hit me hard because when I was studying "means of escape", I had sleepless nights for the fear of fire hung heavy on my mind. It's all so sad, especially as the industry would consider my views as naive. As far as I can remember ('70s) only Lord McAlpine came from a construction background into government. Many more are required, but they would need to have integrity. I won't hold my breath.
The Freeholder of the building should pay for fixing any design flaws, they own the building after all. Looks like this will be something that needs legislating on.
Deregulation.... these buildings are legally dangerous... And dangerous buildings were voted for by the electorate because they voted for neoliberal lead parties which promoted deregulation and as promised delivered it.
The govt did legislate new building standards this year, directly as a result of Grenfell. But they stopped short of requiring any retroactive repair of dangerous cladding on existing buildings. They took developers off the hook completely.
Deregulation.... these buildings are legally dangerous... And dangerous buildings were voted for by the electorate because they voted for neoliberal lead parties which promoted deregulation and as promised delivered it.
Failing to meet safety standards needs to be met with criminal charges. Removing someone from the job/letting them stand down is not at all good enough. None of our political party's are strong enough to stand upto people with wealth. Capitism is a failure.
Heres the thing, they dont build buildings like they used to, its worldwide, the frames are built offsite, the stairs, etc and no one is accountable for anything, everything is rushed and there are no proper builders anymore, your better of buting something 60 years old when builders were skillful
Used to live in a 400yr old pub, 2ft granite walls, its still going strong, it'll be around in another 400yrs when all the new builds around it have collapsed in to their footings.
Developers: "Aaah, all this red tape is stopping me from building!" People: "You mean things like minimum standards of fire safety and structural integrity?" Developers: "Yes! Red taaape!" People: "But what about the risk of people getting hurt? Another Grenfell?" Developers: "Gren what? Oh right, yeah - well, who cares? They didn't have any money anyway. Saved us a lot of paperwork to get redevelopment for luxury flats approved. Red taaaape!"
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Abolish the leasehold system. Give every leaseholder the property they live in outright so every owner is the de facto freeholder. Then they can deal with the problem. Wheher they want to fix the cladding, or keep it as is, it will be up to them. That is the solution.
We're now stuck here. With them. And the dawning realisation, of a potentially huge cognitive failure, is only making them more angry. Save a prayer for those who also serve (by being left behind).
So how do you explain the fact that all these dodgy new builds were constructed within the last 20 years, when we were within the EU? And of course, were built by those supposedly superior and "much harder working" Eastern European builders?
@@j.harrison6744 these discussed here are less than 10 years old - so built by unskilled British labour force and some Europeans as per British building code, builders who were already on their way out of the Country not giving a continental..
I saw one video on the cladding scandal where they said many of the flat owners bought flats because they couldn't afford houses. One person paid 230k for a flat! That's city living for you. I live in a small town where the jobs are rubbish and wages poor but I bought my 3bed 50s built semi detached house with the freehold for 70k. So in some areas houses are a lot cheaper than flats. I managed to get a single person mortgage where my monthly payment is only 1/7th of my monthly net wage though my wage is only the UK average. So there's plenty of good deals out there. You just have to be savvy and have property knowledge, never ever (as I was taught by my parents when I was a teenager some 30 years ago), have anything to do with the scam that is leasehold property. What you see in this video is the consequences of that scam which are totally unfair to the leaseholder but under archaic laws, the leaseholder can be made to pay.
Last september I was working on a listed Manor house rebuild, they only went and boarded the entire ground floor before putting the roof on, two weeks they had heaters blaring trying to dry it out before they ripped it all down. The average child could do better
I’m not sure how much this would help, but maybe England should scrap the whole leasehold system. Sounds like everyone effected are leasehold. That’s what we did in Scotland.
I don't understand how there seems to be no responsible party for the checking of the compliance but it's not unique to the UK exactly the same system was instigated in Australia funny how these tricky scheme sometimes run parallel in different countries
This should not happen to people. Those who built and sold these properties should be held responsible. Who inspects these buildings.?? A roof over your head is a basic need for everyone and no one should be in an insecure position in this regard.
Probably the same people who voted for neoliberal lead governments which promised to deregulate. neoliberal lead governments deregulated thus legalised the building practice which is considered dangerous. People voted for more dangerous buildings.
@@public.public this is also a problem of overregulation, these peoples homes are not unsafe, medium rise buildings are not tower blocks like Grenfell and the hysteria this has produced has lead to some building owners removing cladding that was fine and has given insurance companies like the pensioner's in the video the excuse to charge 10x the premiums..
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It is an injustice in a monumental scale expecting victims to foot the bill for lax building regulations and shoddy building work. Another issue touched on here is the astronomical 'service charges' lease- holders are having to pay management companies such as Savills - almost doubling over the last 5 years. Issues such as this can literally ruin people's lives and worse. My heart goes out to these, hard working decent people who are caught out on something they could never have anticipated. Government minister Robert Jenrick MP - you are HEARTLESS - address this gross injustice. As a Scot looking at this from afar, it emphasises how harsh life can be in England where it seems money and big business ride rough shot over the little people in such a crude way ( worsened by the fact that £1,000,000,000 was paid out to residents of the original fire building.
"It is an injustice in a monumental scale expecting victims to foot the bill for lax building regulations and shoddy building work." No it isn't. Their contract their business not mine. These people likely voted for the neoliberal lead governments which deregulated thus legalised the building practice which is considered dangerous. If you don't like neoliberalism stop voting for it or have a revolution.
The developers are the ones that should be held responsible. The government should intervene in this and change the laws or create a fund to help these people. They can't make people go bankrupt for something the haven't done. How can a person that is leasing and isn't even an owner be responsible for this?
I understand that combustible, flammable materials around the building would be risky.... however, please remember that if nothing is lit towards it, if occupants, who are aware of these, are sensible, no need to be excessively anxious. There won't be a fire. You can live in a non combustible building, and occupants aren't sensible, e.g.having BBQ open fire inside the building, there will be still fire.
The UK government is already bankrupt. The debts are truly MASSIVE. Hence exactly why interested rates are deliberately being kept at ZERO %. And have been for over 10 YEARS. A situation which punishes those who are responsible, those who are savers.
Haven't you heard of modern monetary theory? Go and check out Richard J Murphy, he lays down the way the financial system functions clearly, concisely and objectively.
The government isn’t bankrupt yet. The debt is high like it has been since 1812; literally nothing new. As far as I can see the only people being punished by current government policies is the poor in our society (so nothing new there either). Its just sad.
This is why you never buy a flat, or one part of a larger building, because this is what happens - something goes wrong and you're up shit creek without a paddle. I think the only way out of this is that councils should be required to buy these properties at equivalent market value, and then once they are safe they can be used as social housing to remedy the shocking number of families living in 'temporary' B&B and hotel 'housing'.
Why can’t those developers and politicians who helped make this mistake have their home taken & given an unsafe cladding home instead & ask those whose lives they’ve ruined for help, and see for themselves what the word “sorry” feels like.
Thank you Emily and Lewis and all the contributors. This is a living nightmare for my children, we will be on the March on 16 September. This is not a failure of governments who de regulated the building regulations, which allowed greedy developers and builders to get away with literal murder. Government should pay for this.
No the government must not pay for this. So making everyone pay for your purchase of legally dangerous buildings is immoral. Your contract, your business, not mine. People voted for the neoliberal lead governments which proposed deregulation. People voted for more dangerous buildings. It was the will of the people to have dangerous buildings. So either stop voting for neoliberal lead governments or have a revolution.
To be honest with you, if I were landed a 100,000 bill. I would probably put my home up for some type of shares sell. See if 9 people would invest $10,000 each to part own the home. This would include dividing the mortgage into 10 too. Once Mortgage is paid, put home up instantly for sale (maybe even before), and divide profits into 10 and just get the heck out of there. Could be a chance to help someone make money in the future who would never be able to buy a home too. 3 months of missed mortgage payments, means they would only be entitled to 10,000 back and 2% of profit when house is sold.
Government should pay simple as that, why thy give out permits to developers to build unsafe buildings and put it on the market in the first place is a joke
People voted for neoliberal lead parties which promised to deregulate building practice. neoliberal lead governments deregulated thus legalised the building practice which is considered dangerous. These buildings are legally dangerous. If you don't like it have a revolution. Who was the last leader of a main party to oppose neoliberalism in over 35 years? oh yes Jeremy Corbyn.
They should consider it as an excellent government spending opportunity for them to go through repair the buildings would pump a lot of very valuable money into the economy
This government isn’t interested in spending. They will do everything they can to ensure issues that get enough noise look like they are resolved, while doing the bare minimum and pocketing the rest.
Many people don't want "big government," nor a lot of government regulations on businesses, but with the rampant corporate greed of business leaders set on cutting corners to bring in mountains of cash for themselves and/or shareholders, safety regulations go out the window. Now, people who had NOTHING to do with the unsafe development of buildings and other things are told THEY'RE responsible for the costs of fixing things?? That's completely F*¢ked up. What makes things even more problematic is that many elected government officials are also driven by greed more than the desire to consciously, morally serve in good faith, the people who they've sworn to serve. Greed is the root of much evil in this world.
neoliberal lead governments deregulated thus legalised the building practice which is considered dangerous. People VOTED for this. Their contracts thus their business not mine.
I lived in a victorian house 10 years ago which my mom rented from the council. Using the "right to buy scheme" she managed to get a mortgage and the ownership transfer to her. So we thought anyway, because shortly after the council said we couldn't live in it without paying them 40k to conduct repairs. So we ended up losing the house and back to renting. The funny thing is, we would still be living in it and the council would have footed the 40k repair bill if the right to buy scheme didn't exist. In our case, it was more like the my mom was given the right to lose our family home.
Surely this should be paid for by the developers who profited from putting families at risk. Where's the oversight? Where's the justice? We truly are living in an unfair excuse of a society.
Property developers and shareholders work on the following.... doing it right cost money. Advice, Avoid all new builds until the construction companies stop the pat on the back mentality and look other way to planning and quality checks ethos, not only for safety, but for lack of genuine quality built homes. Also, this could become a money making scheme for all construction companies who will look to make more profit from their errors and will aim to increase the dangerous materials list ever more to get people and the government/Tax payers to pay for the removel of these poor materials. The number one thing to get in a new build is a quality fire alarm and have regular services and maintenance in flats.
@@123TeeMee There are buildings in cities that are older that were built PROPERLY - still standing. It's the loss of life, both in horrific circumstances, that should never happen again.
Shameful of the government is avoiding responsibility they created the system and should therefore accept responsibility for the failure of governance I truly find it staggering
So much for building inspectors , they all must have got backhanders and all must have been aware of problems on this scale . Typical of this country’s standards
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@@saikoujikan It's heartbroken to see families that work all their lives being neglected like this. You are 100% right, it's just the uncertainty of messy times for all of us the one way or the other.
Boo hoo my tower block which I rent to 100s of people pay £5k a month is built out of rubbish. How will I ever afford my 4th holiday home is Spain now???
It is all madness. Who let these buildings be built with these materials? Where was the health and safety oversight in the planning and construction of all these buildings? Grenfell was one oversight but it has highlighted how government and business have just allowed the construction of unsafe housing. And now they expect the victims to pay the costs???? Where are the MPs speaking up for the consumer in all of this? They seem more bothered about being seen at their local gay parade. They love tiny minorities to the complete neglect of the normal people.
Distressing. While this is commonplace in my third-world country, I didn't know it is the same over there in England. The effects of capitalism reduce us all to third-world standards. With wealth and properity for those who benefit enormously from it.
either the owners pay it to put it right or all of us, inc grannies buying milk or children buying sweets via vat, pay it. nobody said it was going to be easy, on balance i think it's the owner's problem (however harsh that may sound).
If the government hadn't massively overapplied these new regulations these people wouldn't have to pay for overzealous inefficient legislation, this is supposed to be why we left the EU. Most of these peoples houses are safe, mid rise buildings are not tower blocks like Grenfell.
@@Jay_Johnson look son, either the owners pay it or we all subsidise private homeowners. how -king hard is it to wrap your tiny brain around that ? stop blaming other people, never mind the -king eu.
This should not have been put on the leaseholders but on the builders and developers. Perhaps the builders and developers made a donation to the conservative party.
Most are Brits, and developers will hold out until each resident gives up and moves on or sells back the properties back to the developers for 10% of what they paid for. The developers will have the liberty to find overseas home buyers and charge them 60% more than what the Brits paid for.
i'm a baby of the building industry, if you think developers or government can impose quality control measures on the industry you are mistaken, the developer will send inspectors who will be outwitted , aggressively approached by : lazy English gammons who prey and intimidate to charge more and pay less for materials , Irish greedy opportunism and rule breaking destructive attitude and last not least the barbaric hoards of the east who are just that , crude truth i'm sorry , to end the tragedy , you need to legislate and prosecute, impose sanctions on pay deductions, and regulate like fuck ! developers have money so force them to pay ! and force contractors to behave and pay better wages, and get rid of ir35 ffs , workers are paid less now by 30% to give a fuck about quality
The people who developed the building should be forced to pay And it doesn't surprise me england is a joke and city's are a joke I'd rather live in the forest at this point
Deregulation.... what is considered dangerous was legalised and people VOTED for the neoliberal lead parties which deregulated. People VOTED FOR more dangerous buildings.
Torries also english people build crap houses all the new builds are badly designed and made and all the old houses are draughty English houses not the best .
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I don't know what they're talking about (because they don't so haven't explained themselves). The Building Regs are thousands of pages long. I've read much of them. They haven't scrapped any of it so something else has gone on. It's a shame the BBC are so shite at journalism.
Pretty real issue for lots of people living in this kind of accomodation. How would you like to be landed with a bill of 100K or more because some moron built the flat to absolutely shite standards.
£70000 to replace some balconies. Get into DIY. That's a piss take. Health an safety alway was just a cash in. Putting your self in a massive debt spiral an depression is not keeping you safe. In alot of country's, country ravaged by our foreign policies for an example your lucky if you live in a tent. This is a disgrace. Someone please inject some realism for these people.
A private buyer, buys from a private developer , taking advise from private legal representation … all done privately , with free will, and their own money …. Nothing to do with gov or tax payer . And tax payer have no responsibly to bail these people out
@@joannekelly5132 nonsense … the regs are the regs … all eventualities can never be taken into account . That is simply not possible. That’s like blaming building regs on the twin towers collapsing , when in fact it was loons in planes that caused their demise
@@jimcourt9164 when the process is corrupt between Kingspan and lack of qualified inspector staff the government has part in liability. Normally I would agree with you but grenfell has highlighted catastrophic deficiencies in the system.
To be sincerely speaking in my humble opinion without being sentimental and of course without offending anyone who thinks differently from my opinion but rather looking into this serious matter with perspective distinction and without condemning anyone's point of view, i honestly think and believe that i have nothing to say. Thank you.......
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When a car manufacturer sells faulty/dangerous vehicles they have to do a recall and remedy all those affected at their own cost. Don’t see how there can’t be legislation to force the same outcome on developers.
Deregulated
Yes,I confirm.
How these developers sleep at night is a mystery to me.
It's a dog eat dog world out there and we keep voting for it.
@@fredfredrickson5436not true. Less than 30% of us turn out to vote for it at anyone time.
That means 70% know there is not a decent box to tick.
It's just students with no life experience.
It ain't gonna get any better.
Don't blame us..
Then again.
The French would have guillotined the lot ages ago.
@@paulgibbons2320 It's the over 50s that vote, not kids. But I agree there is no box to tick. The only chance we've had for a change of direction in my lifetime was under Corbyn and McDonald and you saw how they were savaged universally by the media and by their own party. If Corbyn would've had more spine and less baggage I truly believe he'd have been assassinated.
@@fredfredrickson5436 I agree about Corbyn. It's such a shame he had no balls in interview.
The party were his baggage.
I honestly could not envisage the bunch of harpies and back stabbers in power.
Brexit has killed them.
Marxism can't survive democracy.
Contractors are just as bad, alot of them seem to believe that paying invoices is discretionary
This is so sad. I would never believe that people living in a first-world nation like the UK would have to experience the horror of losing their homes. Truly sad.
Right
@Ranking Royals why you send me that link?
This is what biden is doing now th-cam.com/video/Z0CksHHcUJE/w-d-xo.html
The middle class voted for these deregulating neoliberal lead governments which administered the piss on the poor policy for decade upon decade.
Now they are losing THEIR roof over THEIR heads... boo hoo boo hoo.
I didn't hear these people revoltinging against the neoliberalism which put poor people out on the streets over the last 40 plus years
Yes,I confirm.
Definitely a corruption issue, the developers must pay for it! Residents must resist and fight back... the developers are insured and owned by billionaires...
correction; corruption state..
Their contract not mine. Saying the government should pay for it is the same as saying I should pay for it. NO.
People voted for more dangerous buildings.
They voted for neoliberal lead governments which promised deregulation.
Well, we have insurance companies who can easily foot the bill if the developers dont exist anymore... either way.. not the property buyer
This situation is the result of systemic failure of developers. At best incompetence at worst endemic corruption. All this in plain sight of a government that has no interest in holding corporate developers to account. Why are company executives being allowed to avoid responsibility for their deliberate actions to undermine building safety and quality. Where are local authority planning departments and building control departments, hiding under their desks? The ‘authorities’ are totally complicit in this horrendous lack of supervision.
If the building the developers built was legal, then its the fault of the government for passing thise regulations.
Where was Local Authority Building Control!!!!? Where these signed off by Private Building Inspectors that will sign off anything to keep the customer/developer happy. These poor people God help them
Local authorities are so strapped for cash that I doubt any of them employ more than one or two building inspectors, and are forced then to contract out inpsections to private companies that made the lowest price bid.
A decade of tory leadership, a half century of government more interested in corporate profits than liveable society
I think that's the saddest thing, as the next part of the segment delved into pretty sound criticisms of landlordism that you don't often hear in our groupthink society.
neoliberal lead governments of all colour and stripe legallised dangerous building practice.
People voted for more damgerous buildings.
Labour doesn’t have to be any better
@@123TeeMee labour and conservatives are both big parts of the problem. Rot of empire
Labour started it, listed to the video!!!!
As with all things, labour is normally the start of the problem.
If you pay off the right people, anything will get signed off.
Deregulation. People voted for THAT.
@@public.public nothing to do with deregulation.
@NowisEvollertion spot on!
I have lived in the UK for 8 years. And I am ABSOLUTELY SHOCKED by British building standards. I usually say things like... Its like America builds cars. They look like the real things from a distance. But once you get closer and actually look, you realise that it isn't. Brits pay full price for a building, but the build quality, fit & finish is absolutely terrible.
You know why? Because most buildings are being built through Design & Build procurement. If people just go back to traditional procurement + assigned clerks of works for the clients we won’t have thus problem at all.
Most of the newly built houses are the worst ones in my opinion.
@@Shayoyeye5223
I have lived in the... Slums of Birmingham as a student to living in a completely newly built house. The standards are shockingly bad regardless. Were talking standards like you would see in Poland and some ex soviet countries.
When I was back to living in the UK for 2016-2018, I lived in the extremely expensive, super posh villages around the Thames, and its the same story all over again. British housing standards are just incredibly low. But try to tell them that... Almost impossible. They live in the idea that they are better than other countries.
Probably due to being slightly better than southern countries. But they don't have to deal with the British weather, do they.
Indeed. Standards dropped after we joined the EU and most housing construction was done by Eastern Europeans. Pay peanuts, etc....
@@j.harrison6744
Hahaha no. There is nobody else to blame this on. The EU has restrictions and regulations. Far tighter than the UK has. Or... There are plenty of those in the UK too. But it doesn't look like they are followed.
Or houses are built to JUST squeak by the rules. I really don't know. But the quality of life in the UK is truly amazingly low compared to countries that you would think it was safe to compare with.
But I know, I know... Telling Brits this is very difficult. But Im also 100% sure I could find rot and mold in your house. And that's not normal.
Did the UK not have a building code with inspectors? I haven't seen anything like this where I am.
I've been pulled off several projects because I held builders to the specifications that they were to be paid for. I was deemed "a troublemaker", "difficult to work with", and anything else to deflect from best practice. As a consequence, my career and financial well-being suffered when all I wanted to do was act with integrity and see that the end user got the best possible dwelling for their money.
Towards the end of the 1990's, I was aware that the pending changes to the 'Landlord & Tenants Act' was going to lean towards the Landlord's interest. I left the city in which I was born and raised to avoid becoming a leaseholder.
Grenfell tower fire hit me hard because when I was studying "means of escape", I had sleepless nights for the fear of fire hung heavy on my mind.
It's all so sad, especially as the industry would consider my views as naive.
As far as I can remember ('70s) only Lord McAlpine came from a construction background into government. Many more are required, but they would need to have integrity. I won't hold my breath.
I’ve never seen anything like this either!
Bobs the building degree 📜 license
@@ttran1168 is this a bob the builder joke reference?
these regulations make no sense. It's like a car buyer paying penalties for manufacturing defects?
People voted for more dangerous buildings. Does voting for neoliberal lead governments make sense?
@@public.public I don't remember any party with a manifesto policy of "make buildings more dangerous".
The Freeholder of the building should pay for fixing any design flaws, they own the building after all.
Looks like this will be something that needs legislating on.
Correct
Deregulation.... these buildings are legally dangerous...
And dangerous buildings were voted for by the electorate
because they voted for neoliberal lead parties
which promoted deregulation and as promised delivered it.
It is the will of the people that there be more dangerous buildings.
The govt did legislate new building standards this year, directly as a result of Grenfell. But they stopped short of requiring any retroactive repair of dangerous cladding on existing buildings. They took developers off the hook completely.
Why do you think the construction industry funds the Tory party?
Grenfell got flammable cladding to save a couple of hundred thousand pounds when Kensington and Chelsea council have a surplus of over £200 million.
typical to put failures of the state on to ordinary folks who are no way to blame.
It is the will of the people that there be more dangerous buildings.
Deregulation.... these buildings are legally dangerous...
And dangerous buildings were voted for by the electorate
because they voted for neoliberal lead parties
which promoted deregulation and as promised delivered it.
Failing to meet safety standards needs to be met with criminal charges. Removing someone from the job/letting them stand down is not at all good enough.
None of our political party's are strong enough to stand upto people with wealth.
Capitism is a failure.
Heres the thing, they dont build buildings like they used to, its worldwide, the frames are built offsite, the stairs, etc and no one is accountable for anything, everything is rushed and there are no proper builders anymore, your better of buting something 60 years old when builders were skillful
Used to live in a 400yr old pub, 2ft granite walls, its still going strong, it'll be around in another 400yrs when all the new builds around it have collapsed in to their footings.
Developers: "Aaah, all this red tape is stopping me from building!"
People: "You mean things like minimum standards of fire safety and structural integrity?"
Developers: "Yes! Red taaape!"
People: "But what about the risk of people getting hurt? Another Grenfell?"
Developers: "Gren what? Oh right, yeah - well, who cares? They didn't have any money anyway. Saved us a lot of paperwork to get redevelopment for luxury flats approved. Red taaaape!"
Isn’t Brexit beautiful? No more regulation! Hurray!
I said this thirty years ago and I still say it today: Who in their right mind BUYS an apartment?
People who can't afford standalone houses...
Thirty years ago it might have been a more sensible comment.
Exactly rent them and then buy a freehold.
Yes,I confirm.
Where is the regulation in all this? Why are the builders and land lords getting away with it?
People voted for more dangerous buildings. They are now legally dangerous.
If you don't like neoliberalism stop voting for it or have a revolution.
@@public.public there hasn’t been a single successful revolution since the Second World War. All a revolution does is kill a lot of civilians, break a great deal of infrastructure, and plunge a country into uncertain dictatorship which eventually becomes that they had come to destroy. Revolution simply is not a viable modem for worthwhile change.
And with a combination of First Past the Post voting, heavy control on opposition election spending, a press which is paid for by the government, ever greater gerrymandering, and a lack of interest in honesty when a good lie will do and no one will credibly care, this government will be in power for a very very long time.
The conservatives want the U.K. to be like singapore in terms of opposition impotence, like America in terms of health care and social projects, like China in terms of worker management, and like Russia in terms of public response to government descent.
And they have it. There is no way they will be ousted this coming election, and the longer they stay in power, the more irreversible the damage.
If you can escape this pitiful rock, do so. It is no longer a place worthy of support from its public.
Abolish the leasehold system.
Give every leaseholder the property they live in outright so every owner is the de facto freeholder.
Then they can deal with the problem. Wheher they want to fix the cladding, or keep it as is, it will be up to them.
That is the solution.
Never buy leasehold.
NEVER buy a flat in a block of flats.
I really feel for the poor pensioner who has to go to work. Very sad situation for these people hope they get help.
NEVER buy a flat in a block of flats.
Exactly! It's crazy that people in this day still don't realise that flats in a block are just not worth it.
@@sevena.channel Most folks have little choice in modern Britain. Most new housing being built is blocks of flats.
some people can afford to wait, they know some people can't afford to sue or are too poor to do anything. and so it goes...
to think that once upon a time I considered getting on property ladder in UK but chose to leave the Country due to Brexit - good choice..
We're now stuck here. With them. And the dawning realisation, of a potentially huge cognitive failure, is only making them more angry. Save a prayer for those who also serve (by being left behind).
So how do you explain the fact that all these dodgy new builds were constructed within the last 20 years, when we were within the EU? And of course, were built by those supposedly superior and "much harder working" Eastern European builders?
@@j.harrison6744 these discussed here are less than 10 years old - so built by unskilled British labour force and some Europeans as per British building code, builders who were already on their way out of the Country not giving a continental..
Banks, developers, labour market, jobs... Deregulation always helps the rich and powerful and ends in disaster.
I saw one video on the cladding scandal where they said many of the flat owners bought flats because they couldn't afford houses.
One person paid 230k for a flat! That's city living for you. I live in a small town where the jobs are rubbish and wages poor but I bought my 3bed 50s built semi detached house with the freehold for 70k. So in some areas houses are a lot cheaper than flats. I managed to get a single person mortgage where my monthly payment is only 1/7th of my monthly net wage though my wage is only the UK average.
So there's plenty of good deals out there. You just have to be savvy and have property knowledge, never ever (as I was taught by my parents when I was a teenager some 30 years ago), have anything to do with the scam that is leasehold property. What you see in this video is the consequences of that scam which are totally unfair to the leaseholder but under archaic laws, the leaseholder can be made to pay.
NEVER buy a flat in a block of flats.
This is the first I’ve heard of this!
I’m heartsick for you all!
This seems criminal, intentional, even.
Prayers from the US. 🙏
Last september I was working on a listed Manor house rebuild, they only went and boarded the entire ground floor before putting the roof on, two weeks they had heaters blaring trying to dry it out before they ripped it all down.
The average child could do better
So who ended up having to pay for such a stupid and obvious mistake? I mean - it almost seems deliberate.
I’m not sure how much this would help, but maybe England should scrap the whole leasehold system. Sounds like everyone effected are leasehold. That’s what we did in Scotland.
I'm sadness 🥺🥺🥺🥺 when I heard they said everything
I don't understand how there seems to be no responsible party for the checking of the compliance but it's not unique to the UK exactly the same system was instigated in Australia funny how these tricky scheme sometimes run parallel in different countries
I’ve worked with builders for 15 years. 3rd party building control based 100+ miles away who I’ve only seen once.
This should not happen to people. Those who built and sold these properties should be held responsible. Who inspects these buildings.?? A roof over your head is a basic need for everyone and no one should be in an insecure position in this regard.
Probably the same people who voted for neoliberal lead governments which promised to deregulate.
neoliberal lead governments deregulated thus legalised the building practice which is considered dangerous.
People voted for more dangerous buildings.
@@public.public this is also a problem of overregulation, these peoples homes are not unsafe, medium rise buildings are not tower blocks like Grenfell and the hysteria this has produced has lead to some building owners removing cladding that was fine and has given insurance companies like the pensioner's in the video the excuse to charge 10x the premiums..
THE WHOLE WORLD IS IN TROUBLE AND WHERE ARE THE LEADERS TO PASS OUT THE MONEY TO HELP THEIR PEOPLE...THIS WORLD IS CONFUSING TO ME💯🤮💯
You ain’t the only one
They're passing it out alright, but to the mega rich. Be patient, you might get an ickle trickle of spittle, if you're a good boy.
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Yes,I confirm.
It is an injustice in a monumental scale expecting victims to foot the bill for
lax building regulations and shoddy building work.
Another issue touched on here is the astronomical 'service charges' lease-
holders are having to pay management companies such as Savills - almost
doubling over the last 5 years.
Issues such as this can literally ruin people's lives and worse.
My heart goes out to these, hard working decent people who are caught out on
something they could never have anticipated.
Government minister Robert Jenrick MP - you are HEARTLESS - address this gross
injustice.
As a Scot looking at this from afar, it emphasises how harsh life can be in England
where it seems money and big business ride rough shot over the little people
in such a crude way ( worsened by the fact that £1,000,000,000 was paid out
to residents of the original fire building.
"It is an injustice in a monumental scale expecting victims to foot the bill for
lax building regulations and shoddy building work."
No it isn't. Their contract their business not mine. These people likely voted for the neoliberal lead governments
which deregulated thus legalised the building practice which is considered dangerous.
If you don't like neoliberalism stop voting for it or have a revolution.
The developers are the ones that should be held responsible. The government should intervene in this and change the laws or create a fund to help these people. They can't make people go bankrupt for something the haven't done. How can a person that is leasing and isn't even an owner be responsible for this?
The legal onus is on the building developers.
Deregulation
@@public.public Do you work for Bellway or one of the others? GTFO.
I understand that combustible, flammable materials around the building would be risky.... however, please remember that if nothing is lit towards it, if occupants, who are aware of these, are sensible, no need to be excessively anxious. There won't be a fire. You can live in a non combustible building, and occupants aren't sensible, e.g.having BBQ open fire inside the building, there will be still fire.
The UK government is already bankrupt. The debts are truly MASSIVE. Hence exactly why interested rates are deliberately being kept at ZERO %. And have been for over 10 YEARS. A situation which punishes those who are responsible, those who are savers.
Haven't you heard of modern monetary theory? Go and check out Richard J Murphy, he lays down the way the financial system functions clearly, concisely and objectively.
The government isn’t bankrupt yet. The debt is high like it has been since 1812; literally nothing new. As far as I can see the only people being punished by current government policies is the poor in our society (so nothing new there either). Its just sad.
@@fredfredrickson5436
Does it cover why the uk has food shortages and why 22% of British adults and 34% of British children live in poverty?
@@mijicmugendo He positions himself as apolitical, but he's a white hat economist for sure; I think you'll like him.
@@mxcrftaa5508 the government may not be financially bankrupt but is un- doubtedly morally bankrupt.
Ban leasehold. Freehold and commonhold only.
Freeholders have the same problem... NEVER buy a flat in a block of flats.
This is why you never buy a flat, or one part of a larger building, because this is what happens - something goes wrong and you're up shit creek without a paddle.
I think the only way out of this is that councils should be required to buy these properties at equivalent market value, and then once they are safe they can be used as social housing to remedy the shocking number of families living in 'temporary' B&B and hotel 'housing'.
This is so unfair, that all these people should end up in debt & face being bankrupt. I wonder what the government has to say about this.
If the developers aren't responsible and insurers won't cover it, then it falls to the regulator. The UK govt.
So basically we're stuffed.
Why can’t those developers and politicians who helped make this mistake have their home taken & given an unsafe cladding home instead & ask those whose lives they’ve ruined for help, and see for themselves what the word “sorry” feels like.
Thank you Emily and Lewis and all the contributors. This is a living nightmare for my children, we will be on the March on 16 September. This is not a failure of governments who de regulated the building regulations, which allowed greedy developers and builders to get away with literal murder. Government should pay for this.
No the government must not pay for this.
So making everyone pay for your purchase of legally dangerous buildings is immoral.
Your contract, your business, not mine. People voted for the neoliberal lead governments which proposed deregulation.
People voted for more dangerous buildings. It was the will of the people to have dangerous buildings.
So either stop voting for neoliberal lead governments or have a revolution.
@@public.public I didn’t vote for dangerous buildings !
Why does buying a mortgage give you freedom 🤯
This is disgraceful and those responsible should loose their homes.
That will be everyone who voted for the neoliberal lead governments which promised deregulation then.
To be honest with you, if I were landed a 100,000 bill. I would probably put my home up for some type of shares sell. See if 9 people would invest $10,000 each to part own the home. This would include dividing the mortgage into 10 too. Once Mortgage is paid, put home up instantly for sale (maybe even before), and divide profits into 10 and just get the heck out of there. Could be a chance to help someone make money in the future who would never be able to buy a home too. 3 months of missed mortgage payments, means they would only be entitled to 10,000 back and 2% of profit when house is sold.
Government should pay simple as that, why thy give out permits to developers to build unsafe buildings and put it on the market in the first place is a joke
People voted for neoliberal lead parties which promised to deregulate building practice.
neoliberal lead governments deregulated thus legalised the building practice which is considered dangerous.
These buildings are legally dangerous. If you don't like it have a revolution.
Who was the last leader of a main party to oppose neoliberalism in over 35 years? oh yes Jeremy Corbyn.
They should consider it as an excellent government spending opportunity for them to go through repair the buildings would pump a lot of very valuable money into the economy
This government isn’t interested in spending. They will do everything they can to ensure issues that get enough noise look like they are resolved, while doing the bare minimum and pocketing the rest.
Many people don't want "big government," nor a lot of government regulations on businesses, but with the rampant corporate greed of business leaders set on cutting corners to bring in mountains of cash for themselves and/or shareholders, safety regulations go out the window. Now, people who had NOTHING to do with the unsafe development of buildings and other things are told THEY'RE responsible for the costs of fixing things?? That's completely F*¢ked up.
What makes things even more problematic is that many elected government officials are also driven by greed more than the desire to consciously, morally serve in good faith, the people who they've sworn to serve.
Greed is the root of much evil in this world.
neoliberal lead governments deregulated thus legalised the building practice which is considered dangerous.
People VOTED for this. Their contracts thus their business not mine.
I lived in a victorian house 10 years ago which my mom rented from the council. Using the "right to buy scheme" she managed to get a mortgage and the ownership transfer to her. So we thought anyway, because shortly after the council said we couldn't live in it without paying them 40k to conduct repairs. So we ended up losing the house and back to renting. The funny thing is, we would still be living in it and the council would have footed the 40k repair bill if the right to buy scheme didn't exist. In our case, it was more like the my mom was given the right to lose our family home.
Omg, shocking.... So sorry!!!
What's a "mom"? Do you mean 'mum'?
@@j.harrison6744 That's the queen
@@j.harrison6744 Americans say Mom, British say Mum or Mam in Wales. We say Mum in Australia. Just different sayings thats all.
Wow, an actual news article about Britain on the BBC? Our cup runneth over!
How can respective governments allow this misconduct? That is the failure of the Government at the first place not the citizens...
No government money for this, it's not the public purses responsibility.
Surely this should be paid for by the developers who profited from putting families at risk. Where's the oversight? Where's the justice? We truly are living in an unfair excuse of a society.
Property developers and shareholders work on the following.... doing it right cost money.
Advice, Avoid all new builds until the construction companies stop the pat on the back mentality and look other way to planning and quality checks ethos, not only for safety, but for lack of genuine quality built homes.
Also, this could become a money making scheme for all construction companies who will look to make more profit from their errors and will aim to increase the dangerous materials list ever more to get people and the government/Tax payers to pay for the removel of these poor materials. The number one thing to get in a new build is a quality fire alarm and have regular services and maintenance in flats.
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ALL countries need to up their game in terms of building regulations !!!
To be fair, two buildings across the US and UK is a very small number
Having said that, the tower blocks built in the seventies or earlier are only getting older as time goes on
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There are buildings in cities that are older that were built PROPERLY - still standing. It's the loss of life, both in horrific circumstances, that should never happen again.
@@sallyseaward5865 Yep, it’s just that those post-war buildings were built in such demand but with such low budget
@@123TeeMee the post war Russian blocks are still standing.
Shameful of the government is avoiding responsibility they created the system and should therefore accept responsibility for the failure of governance I truly find it staggering
So much for building inspectors , they all must have got backhanders and all must have been aware of problems on this scale . Typical of this country’s standards
Labour should be all over this.
Labour have only one job, win the next election. There are too many issues that this government should be scrutinised over. The response to Covid alone is a torrent of issues from their abandonment of measures, dropping of testing, push for unvaccinated children to return to schools, ignoring data that shows cases are rising again. And then there’s all the Brexit induced crises like the supply chain collapse, the induction of checks, the loss of staff for most industries. And on top of that is the lazy response to Afghanistan, the abandonment of key manifesto pledges, the mismanagement of immigration…
The list goes on. There are far too many issues to address directly to the government, and Labour need to focus on the ones that will win them the most seats.
Because fundamentally, Labour policies are meaningless if they are not in government.
@@saikoujikan It's heartbroken to see families that work all their lives being neglected like this. You are 100% right, it's just the uncertainty of messy times for all of us the one way or the other.
Boo hoo my tower block which I rent to 100s of people pay £5k a month is built out of rubbish. How will I ever afford my 4th holiday home is Spain now???
It is all madness. Who let these buildings be built with these materials? Where was the health and safety oversight in the planning and construction of all these buildings?
Grenfell was one oversight but it has highlighted how government and business have just allowed the construction of unsafe housing. And now they expect the victims to pay the costs????
Where are the MPs speaking up for the consumer in all of this?
They seem more bothered about being seen at their local gay parade. They love tiny minorities to the complete neglect of the normal people.
What the fuck, I thought this was a one off issue. Why are citizens suppose to foot the bill.
Distressing. While this is commonplace in my third-world country, I didn't know it is the same over there in England. The effects of capitalism reduce us all to third-world standards. With wealth and properity for those who benefit enormously from it.
I thought my government is bad but the more I hear of what goes on in Europe the more I realise I’m gonna be ok.
Done youre job , clean , clear , Invest more, more and more is easy
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either the owners pay it to put it right or all of us, inc grannies buying milk or children buying sweets via vat, pay it. nobody said it was going to be easy, on balance i think it's the owner's problem (however harsh that may sound).
If the government hadn't massively overapplied these new regulations these people wouldn't have to pay for overzealous inefficient legislation, this is supposed to be why we left the EU. Most of these peoples houses are safe, mid rise buildings are not tower blocks like Grenfell.
@@Jay_Johnson look son, either the owners pay it or we all subsidise private homeowners. how -king hard is it to wrap your tiny brain around that ? stop blaming other people, never mind the -king eu.
Legislators, financiers, neither care, both are the problem..
Terrible Game the World Plays with the people
This should not have been put on the leaseholders but on the builders and developers. Perhaps the builders and developers made a donation to the conservative party.
Most are Brits, and developers will hold out until each resident gives up and moves on or sells back the properties back to the developers for 10% of what they paid for.
The developers will have the liberty to find overseas home buyers and charge them 60% more than what the Brits paid for.
more likely landlords will get their hands on them.
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559 views we should be outraged?
When I lived there and worked in City Planning it was the same for me. Go sovereign. Patent your land
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i'm a baby of the building industry, if you think developers or government can impose quality control measures on the industry you are mistaken, the developer will send inspectors who will be outwitted , aggressively approached by : lazy English gammons who prey and intimidate to charge more and pay less for materials , Irish greedy opportunism and rule breaking destructive attitude and last not least the barbaric hoards of the east who are just that , crude truth i'm sorry , to end the tragedy , you need to legislate and prosecute, impose sanctions on pay deductions, and regulate like fuck ! developers have money so force them to pay ! and force contractors to behave and pay better wages, and get rid of ir35 ffs , workers are paid less now by 30% to give a fuck about quality
Since the eightys hmmmm
What happend then
Weird as health and safety is always over the top in the UK
No it's not. The uk had to be forced by the EU to increase health and safety rules
Yeah, that's why all them folks roasted to death in Grenfell, genius.
Yes,I confirm.
The people who developed the building should be forced to pay
And it doesn't surprise me england is a joke and city's are a joke
I'd rather live in the forest at this point
Deregulation.... what is considered dangerous was legalised and people VOTED for the neoliberal lead parties which deregulated.
People VOTED FOR more dangerous buildings.
Hey BBC, never mind this bit of "news", when are you going to stop being a mouthpiece for Tory propaganda? "Impartial", such a joke.
Next you'll be saying that the BBC Chairman is a member of the Tory Party......oh hang on a minute.
Torries also english people build crap houses all the new builds are badly designed and made and all the old houses are draughty English houses not the best .
Buy a RV!! Like i did and drive off and give them the middle Finger.
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Nice news i love city uk
this is why many houses empty, bbc?
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I don't know what they're talking about (because they don't so haven't explained themselves). The Building Regs are thousands of pages long. I've read much of them. They haven't scrapped any of it so something else has gone on. It's a shame the BBC are so shite at journalism.
Deregulation.
Pretty real issue for lots of people living in this kind of accomodation. How would you like to be landed with a bill of 100K or more because some moron built the flat to absolutely shite standards.
£70000 to replace some balconies.
Get into DIY. That's a piss take.
Health an safety alway was just a cash in.
Putting your self in a massive debt spiral an depression is not keeping you safe.
In alot of country's, country ravaged by our foreign policies for an example your lucky if you live in a tent.
This is a disgrace. Someone please inject some realism for these people.
I'm not sure the Tabitha's and the Tarquin's of this world do manual labour, that's for the oiks.
@@tam8197 might change when daddy's pockets run dry.
And you wonder why these things happen in the uk
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What daddy. These people are normal people with mortgages
@@mijicmugendo I agree. But there is an every growing rift between those who can get on the ladder and those that will never.
here is the lesson folks. no one cares.
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A private buyer, buys from a private developer , taking advise from private legal representation … all done privately , with free will, and their own money …. Nothing to do with gov or tax payer . And tax payer have no responsibly to bail these people out
When government regulations are at fault too they are also liable to a degree.
@@joannekelly5132 nonsense … the regs are the regs … all eventualities can never be taken into account . That is simply not possible. That’s like blaming building regs on the twin towers collapsing , when in fact it was loons in planes that caused their demise
@@jimcourt9164 when the process is corrupt between Kingspan and lack of qualified inspector staff the government has part in liability. Normally I would agree with you but grenfell has highlighted catastrophic deficiencies in the system.
Yes,I confirm.
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