Could you use this JVC camera in 2024?
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Chapters:
Intro - 00:00
Price in 2013 - 01:00
Recording formats - 01:31
Why did I buy it? - 03:01
Lens mount and lens specs - 03:45
Camera body controls - 04:19
Tape control functions - 06:10
Fold-out LCD viewfinder - 07:14
Audio and timecode controls - 07:57
Battery slot - 09:41
Two headphone/audio monitor jacks - 09:53
Tape deck, output jacks, and power input jack - 10:16
XLR audio inputs - 11:24
SD card slot - 11:30
Audio input controls - 12:34
Lens controls - 13:29
Eyepiece viewfinder - 17:40
Sample footage - 19:40
Startech video recorder - 20:27
Should you use it in 2022? - 22:02
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Awesome work thanks
The DR-HD100 Hard Drive recorder is specifically made for this camera and records HD video in 720p. You can up-res 720p video to 1080p or 4K using VideoProc Converter to get great video with this camera. I've used this camera for years and still use it. Of course, I have 4K cameras, but I still like this one as well.
Those are great recorders! It's been a long time since I've used them. Do you have to use FireWire to transfer the video to your computer or is there another way to retrieve the files without real-time log and capture?
@@thesharpshooter4u Hey Tyler. You need to transfer it with FireWire. I don’t think there is any other way. Years ago, I purchased a FireWire PCIe Card for my PC in order to retrieve the clips. Unfortunately, recently, I learned the hard way that you can't use one of those FireWire to USB cables to view the files. I bought a cheap cable off of eBay and it must have fried the circuit in the FireWire port of my DR-HD100. Now, the pop-up screen doesn't appear when I try to connect to my PC. After this happened, I found out from those who know that Firewire to USB cables don't work and can damage your device.
This experience wasn't a total loss, however, it did cost me $280 for new equipment. I ended up researching what recorders work with the GY-HD110. I found one that works great with it. That is the Datavideo DN-200 DV/HDV Hard Disk Recorder. I purchased it from Church Gear's website for $90 ($120 Total). The model that i got came with everything, all the accessories, and even the original box. It has 320GB of storage capacity for hours of recording. It came clean and scratch free. I use a Small Rig Magic Arm with two Super Clamps to rig it to the rear of the camera.
After I bought the DataVideo recorder, a seller on eBay reduced the price of a brand new, never used, in original box, with all accessories DR-HD100 recorder. He reduced the price by $110 and was selling it for $139. I couldn't pass up that deal, so I purchased it. ($160 Total). The DR-HD100 recorders for the JVC-GY-HD110 camera are being sold on eBay from time to time. There are a few being sold now. I wouldn't pay for what those sellers are offering.
By the way, I want to compliment you on this video. You did a good job on it. I watched it several times.
The following is a reply that I left you that got deleted. I don't think I violated any TH-cam terms with it. If you deleted it, I can't imagine why.
You need to transfer it with FireWire. I don’t think there is any other way. Years ago, I purchased a FireWire PCIe Card for my PC in order to retrieve the video clips. Recently, I learned the hard way that you can't use one of those FireWire to USB cables to view the files. I bought a cheap cable and it must have fried the circuit in the FireWire port of my DR-HD100. Now, the pop-up screen doesn't appear when I try to connect to my PC. After this happened, I found out from those who know that Firewire to USB cables don't work and can damage your device.
This experience wasn't a total loss; however, it did cost me $280 for new equipment. I ended up researching what recorders work with the GY-HD110. I found one that works great with it. One that works is the Datavideo DN-200 DV/HDV Hard Disk Recorder. I purchased it from Church Gear for $90 ($120 Total). The model that I got came with everything, all the accessories, and even the original box. It has 320GB of storage capacity for hours of recording. It came clean and scratch free. I use a Small Rig Magic Arm with two Super Clamps to rig it to the rear of the camera.
After I bought the DataVideo recorder, a seller on eBay reduced the price of a brand new, never used, in original box, with all accessories DR-HD100 recorder. He reduced the price by $110 and was selling it for $139. I couldn't pass up that deal, so I purchased it. ($160 Total). The DR-HD100 recorders for the JVC-GY-HD110 camera are being sold on eBay from time to time. There are a few being sold now. I wouldn't pay for what those sellers are offering.
@@perpub I didn't delete it. I'm not sure what happened, but thank you for re-posting your reply below! It's helpful for the viewers!
@@perpub Thanks for the info. I completely forgot about the DataVideo recorder, but now that rings a bell. I never used or saw one of those in person, but I remember researching them a few years ago.
Yeah, it's unfortunate there's not many modern PCs with Firewire ports anymore. I held onto my MacPro 1.1 until 2022 (had it for a decade and loved it). I used it and an old MacBook with Firewire to log and capture all the footage back in the day.
Firewire is a funny thing. At that time, it was more reliable than USB 2 (because most USB 3 devices didn't exist or weren't prominent) for high-bandwidth applications like audio and video.
I had a similar Firewire experience with my Digi-002 (audio interface) and ProTools. I bought the unit used and had it for about 3 years, using it extensively, and one day the Firewire ports went bad. I had to get it repaired by an Avid-certified shop out of Chicago to get it back working. When I got it back, I called the technician to ask if there's anything I could have done to prevent it. He asked if I plugged the Firewire cables in while either of the devices (computer or interface) were powered on. I said yes. He told me in the future, with any Firewire device, make sure the computer and the device (camera, audio interface, etc.) are both powered off.
This happened a few years before I bought the JVC, so I remembered that when I began connecting it to the PC and never had any problems. Funny enough though, the 2012 MacBook's Firewire port died in 2020 after years of use, so that's when I decided to stop using Firewire altogether and I bought that Startech recorder.
Appreciate your info and thanks for watching! I love sharing stories like these with the views to help them learn!
I've been looking for a dv player to upscale my old home video dvc library. Professional level players (dvc pro and dvcam machines) are stupidly expensive, and consumer cameras are getting ridiculously costly in 2023. . I know professional cameras have a better tape mechanism and I found this camcorder in ebay. Back in the day (2006) I started to work with the p2 format (the world famous SPX800), and this jvc camera was obsolete back then, and years later JVC put out the HM series with sd card as video recording media. I was interested, but the 720 resolution and the 1/3 ccd was a Newsgathering solution.
Thanks for the video, very professional and educational.
Thanks for watching! I used an SPX800 as a news videographer from 2012-2015. P2 was great in its heyday, but I was glad when professional cameras adopted the more affordable and obtainable SD cards.
AWESOME WORK
Excellent presentation of this camera. Never used it myself but witnessed others working with it quite a lot in the 2010s. Completely agree by the way, broadcast style cameras are superior in handling over anything else.
Thanks for watching!
Im getting one soon, will let yall know if its any good
I have the same JVC with modified battery pack.
Chapters:
Intro - 00:00
Price in 2013 - 01:00
Recording formats - 01:31
Why did I buy it? - 03:01
Lens mount and lens specs - 03:45
Camera body controls - 04:19
Tape control functions - 06:10
Fold-out LCD viewfinder - 07:14
Audio and timecode controls - 07:57
Battery slot - 09:41
Two headphone/audio monitor jacks - 09:53
Tape deck, output jacks, and power input jack - 10:16
XLR audio inputs - 11:24
SD card slot - 11:30
Audio input controls - 12:34
Lens controls - 13:29
Eyepiece viewfinder - 17:40
Sample footage - 19:40
Startech video recorder - 20:27
Should you use it in 2022? - 22:02
I have inherited this camera and not sure what to do with it.
I am afraid, it cannot do 720 @ 60i as you said at 2:02, you have the spec sheet onscreen. Moreover, there is no 720 interlaced format. It can do 720p30, or if you want 60p, then it can do 480p60. The later model, GY-HD200, can do proper 720p60. You also said it can do 1440x1080, no it cannot do 1080 at all, again the spec sheet shows it. 1440x1080 is Sony's and Canon's HDV format, first it was interlaced only, then progscan was added. Nothing weird with it, it uses wide pixels with PAR 1.33. No need to stretch it, it is 16:9. And no, it is not "60 frames, interlaced", it is 30 frames, interlaced, or 60 fields. What the GY-HD110 can do howewer, it can output 1080i from its component out, so it would convert whatever is on tape into 1080i.
@ConsumerDV - Thanks for watching! I appreciate the clarification on what I said at 2:02. You are correct. I apologize if that caused any confusion. My HD110U would output 1080i60 through its component jack. I used that format with an external recorder, and it is noted on JVC's spec sheet, under the sampling frequencies section: pro.jvc.com/prof/attributes/specs.jsp?model_id=MDL101642&feature_id=03
I'll have to check more out on your channel. I appreciate the information you're sharing about vintage A/V equipment. Thanks for helping keep old technology alive!
@@thesharpshooter4u I appreciate you took the high road to my rather snotty comment :) I liked your video and watched it to the end.
I found out about the GY-HD100/110/200 while reading the now defunct HighDef magazine (you still can download old issues from the archive through Wayback Machine). For example, the September 2006 issue reads:
"JVC PROHD CAMCORDER - The GY-HD110U provides users with a choice of three image formats, a black and-white viewfinder display mode, simultaneous use of both eyepiece and LCD displays when powered by IDX or Anton Bauer battery systems, a selectable mirror mode on vertically flipped LCD displays, manual audio control, audio limiting, along with other features. These new features are enhancements to the feature set available in the ProHD HD100 camcorder line, which include true 24-frame progressive recording, 1280x720 image capture, interchangeable bayonet mount lenses, three-chip 1/3-inch CCD imaging, multiple HD format outputs and compatibility with HDV and DV formats."
In the same issue an advertisement for the camcorder quotes a DP for "24" (he did two episodes) saying, "I spent 20 years as a documentary shooter, so features, glass and the physical build of the camera are extremely important. We tested many small HD cameras and chose JVC’s GY-HD110U because it’s a true 24p camera with interchangeable lenses."
In the March-April 2007 issue the article about "24" clarifies, "Although 24 is shot on film, a considerable amount of HD video is used for the show to provide ‘real life’ visual content. 24 utilizes JVC’s ProHD GY-HD110U to shoot HDV for presidential addresses, surveillance video, news footage, and playback of news segments. Previously, the series used the PD150 DV camera, shot at 60i and then converted to 30p." The whole article is interesting. I used to gobble up this stuff, dreaming of becoming a filmmaker. In the end, I just learned a lot of numbers.
Appreciate it! @@ConsumerDV :) All comments are welcome, especially if it's helping the viewers!
I have the same camera that I bought when it came out and yes the Mini DV issue is the problem having to have to capture in real time. I did hear back then that JVC might have made a Hard disk attachment that would be able to record digitally and then take it to a computer and drag & drop...I did see it on some site, back then but I can't find it now anywhere... Since I am not doing any professional movies, I still want to use the camera but I don't want to have to resort to Mini DV...then again where do you find Mini DVs these days?
I was thinking to use the camera in live situations like for a podcast BUT I would need it to go through some interface to convert the output from firewire to whatever system it was going to. With that said, I read that there is an adapter that goes from Firewire to Thunderbolt so it can be attached to a Mac, should I want to capture direct to a computer>..Any thoughts?
Great Video! Thank you!
Thanks for watching @tonytravert9944! I wouldn't not bother with any of the firewire adapters. Instead, I would recommend the Startech recorder I mention at 20:25. It enables you to use the camera and record on to SD cards, and there is a USB interface so you can live stream with the camera as well. This is the model: www.startech.com/en-us/audio-video-products/usb2hdcaps. It's discontinued, but you can find it on sites like eBay. Good luck and happy shooting!
The DR-HD100 Hard Drive recorder is specifically made for this camera and records HD video in 720p. You can up-res 720p video to 1080p or 4K using VideoProc Converter to get great video with this camera. I've used this camera for years and still use it. Of course, I have 4K cameras, but I still like this one as well.
@@perpub If you google this, you will find it but it's either 'archived' which i don't know what that means in tech talk, or No longer available'. I recall reading about this unit about 15 years ago and if it is on sale today, it would be around $1,800 USD which is probably as much as the camera would be and at 720p and perhaps it might be able to up res, but perhaps that video adapter is more value for money than this unit, but perhaps there is a second hand somewhere in the world? Thank you!
@@tonytravert9944 I replied to Tyler above about my recent experience with the DR-HD100 recorder. I needed one and found one brand new on eBay being sold for only $139.
Here's what I told Tyler about it:
"Years ago, I purchased a FireWire PCIe Card for my PC in order to retrieve the clips. Unfortunately, recently, I learned the hard way that you can't use one of those FireWire to USB cables to view the files. I bought a cheap cable off of eBay and it must have fried the circuit in the FireWire port of my DR-HD100. Now, the pop-up screen doesn't appear when I try to connect to my PC. After this happened, I found out from those who know that Firewire to USB cables don't work and can damage your device.
This experience wasn't a total loss, however, it did cost me $280 for new equipment. I ended up researching what recorders work with the GY-HD110. I found one that works great with it. That is the Datavideo DN-200 DV/HDV Hard Disk Recorder. I purchased it from Church Gear's website for $90 ($120 Total). The model that i got came with everything, all the accessories, and even the original box. It has 320GB of storage capacity for hours of recording. It came clean and scratch free. I use a Small Rig Magic Arm with two Super Clamps to rig it to the rear of the camera.
After I bought the DataVideo recorder, a seller on eBay reduced the price of a brand new, never used, in original box, with all accessories DR-HD100 recorder. He reduced the price by $110 and was selling it for $139. I couldn't pass up that deal, so I purchased it. ($160 Total). The DR-HD100 recorders for the JVC-GY-HD110 camera are being sold on eBay from time to time. There are a few being sold now. I wouldn't pay for what those sellers are offering."
I just didn't happen to get lucky and have that deal fall in my lap. I actually was watching that seller's listing and when he reduced the price, I jumped on it. I wouldn't have bought it if he didn't do so because, although he was selling it at a great price to begin with (249), I had just purchased the DataVideo DN-200 Recorder.
You know if you want to get good deals on eBay, I'll give you a heads up. Just search for what you want, type the name of the item in the search box. If it's not already available, save the search and eBay will email you when someone lists what you want. You can save Buy Now or Auction searches.
Hi, i'm just curious why the jvc hd cameras were always overshadowed by the canon xl series? Perhaps it's because jvc was mostly used for ENG and canon was used for more cinematic works? But what exactly the different between them?
This is a great question, anggi869. It's just my opinion, but I would agree JVC was more well-known in the ENG/broadcast customer base and Canon was more popular in the prosumer/production house customer base. The JVC GY-HD100/110 and the Canon XL H1 are very comparabile cameras. Both share 1/3" CCD sensors, XLR audio inputs, ability for 24fps (which was huge at that time), and recorded to HDV/MiniDV tape. And both were similarly priced. The key differences I'm aware of are the lens mounts. The Canon lined used proprietary Canon XL (which could accommodate Canon EF lenses with an adapter), while JVC used the 1/3" bayonet-mount system, offering a few selections of broadcast grade lenses.
With the JVC camera, it was not intended for the user to frequently change lenses. Most that use those style of broadcast lens will stick with it for the life of the camera since they have a constant aperture, long zoom range, and are parfocal. However, Canon's design encouraged users to swap lenses based on their shooting requirements. To my knowledge, none of the XL lenses were parfocal, but I believe some had a constant aperture throughout the focal length.
After using both cameras, I would say the JVC was a superior model due to its lens, but I would agree that it was definitely overshadowed. It's interesting, because I also use the JVC GY-LS300 camera today which offers a micro four theirs lens mount, a Super 35 sensor, and 4k resolution. It is great for broadcast or cinematic looks and is very affordable. However, it was discontinued after a short time. I believe it was because customers are shifting to DSLR-style cameras for video. Nonetheless, the LS300 is an extremely capable video camera that can compete with today's competition from Canon, Panasonic, Sony, and BlackMagic Design.
@@thesharpshooter4u thanks for the amazing reply. The shifting towards the dslr camera is a very interesting topic. Many new videographer especialy in youtube seems to get the wrong idea when it comes to equipment and its purpose. They always think that dslr is better than camcorder. I always say it depend on the mission. If you focus on videography get an dslr. If you focus on story telling, documentation, or vlogging, a simple and affordable camcorder is good enough.
@@anggi8699 I couldn't agree more!
Hello, how i can find this unit if still exist? Do you have some recordings to see the quality? Thank you
Yes, you can find the camera on ebay.
Here's some samples:
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Nature video: th-cam.com/video/ASAlE3PGV5w/w-d-xo.htmlsi=jKWYXEFCm-DwCslM
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Can you live stream with this camera?
Thanks for watching eastking1147! Yes, but you will need an interface. Here's a few of options for you:
If you're running an older Mac that has Firewire ports, you can use the camera's Firewire out and the computer will be able to use that as an input audio/video source. I had used this with Quicktime in the past.
There is a piece of equipment from Startech called the USB2HDCAPS. It's the recorder I mentioned toward the end of the video. It has a USB and RJ-45 (Ethernet) interface so you can connect to a Windows-based computer and live stream. You'll likely have to pick up those interfaces used on eBay or a simliar site (at this point, they go for around $50-75). As I mentioned in the video, it uses the camera's component outputs for and HD 720p signal.
Lastly, you can also use the camera's component outputs through a Blackmagic Mini Converter Analog to SDI, connected to a BlackMagic Web Presenter.
With that said, I really wouldn't recommend using this camera for live streaming. There are many other cameras on the market that will offer better ease of use, flexibility, and higher quality for a low price. I haven't had experience with them yet, but I'm looking at the Logitech Mevo series now. They have some cameras with built-in lens and microphones, and they just came out with one that accepts Micro Four Thirds lenses. This will likely be a game changer for high-quality streaming productions. And if you need a high quality zoom lens like this JVC camera has, you will have plenty of affordable options that will be available for that lens mount system.
Have you ever used this camera? Let me know in the comments!
Hi there i have this camera its awesome i use it to film wildlife.
@@britisheagle9776 That's awesome! It's got the perfect lens for wildlife.
@@thesharpshooter4u yep mate I'm never without it at the moment it's on its tripod I live in the country side in North Yorkshire I see deer fox ect
Hi Tyler, based on your recommendations, I purchased a used StarTech Video Capture Device (USB2HDCAPS). I got a great deal for it on eBay,. $60. For the life of me I can't figure out why I have no sound when I play the recorded clips. I use the composite out from the camera to the composite in of the capture device. The audio on my GY-HD110 works and I have used other recorders to capture the video and audio at the same time with no problem.
Can you tell me if no sound was an issue for you? Whether it was or not, what did you do to get sound? Do you need a separate audio recorder to capture the sound?
Okay, I went back to your video to get some clues. You said there that you use analog audio. After hearing that, I hooked up a Zoom H4N audio recorder and ran it into the analog audio ports on the StarTech recorder. Doing so fixed the audio problem. Now the video is black and white and low resolution. Curious? Why is this happening?
After spending way too much time than I wanted to on this device, all I can say is, so far so bad. I got it based on your recommendation. So far it's not working for me. I wish you would have explained more of how you got it to work for you or any possible problems to expect.