Thanks Guys! Your vid was the inspiration. Guys here would like to see the follow up aka guys moaning about their roof conversion 🤣. Would be a great fire side chat idea.
Nice comparison! Thanks for that! If I may the only measures missing is the height between the floor and the ceiling (when closed). I agree that’s quite hard to measure☺️😉but it will help me to choose if I would know which conversion has the most room to store bedding….thanks in advance
Agreed the one dimension we did not take. Only thought afterwards we could have pushed a steel ruler between the two floor boards as measured total height inside . AI do now make deeper / higher roof for more bedding, but me personally I don’t think it looks nice. Also rumor has it AC are going to update the Hercules soon with more of everything I suspect and possibly bedding as well. So if you not in a rush maybe 🤔 wait 🤷🏻♂️🤙
That stays the best comparison ever!!!😊 By the way what’s your thoughts about room for bedding (when closed), from your point of view, which is the best?
@@peterpatch7144 Peter everyone on our @troopysinafrica whatsapp group seem to think they are both the same with looking at the standard. You can get blanket and sleeping bags inside - no pillows. Otherwise the catches will break on bad roads. But again the new AC may have more when it comes.
I have a Kronos and the one thing I really hate is the bed frame is short , so you cannot lay in bed with hatch open…smaller hatch or a easy mod to extend the main frame would have made all the difference. I’m only 6ft so not a tall guy. As for both the latches are useless for here in Australia Brilliant video,,,if you were looking between the two this video is for you.
Thanks Dude. I do know they have made one with two flaps here in SA, i.e. one each side. Maybe they could modify it for you? Cassiem the owner is very helpful to the community here. Maybe reach out on their instagram page. Or DM me on mine🤙
I’m sure a lot of people will find this very helpful. I’m glad I didn’t have a choice when I did mine, I would have found it very difficult. I’m very happy with my Hercules though. Just wish I could spend more time in it! (Geoffthetroopy)
Hey WOW! A troopy celebrity 😜. Thanks for the comment Chris🤙. Personally I would still god for the AC for quality and finish, but do love the roof line of the AI.
Remember they tapper to the front. Panels are normally square. Quit a challenge. Ok so Back - Outside to outside is about 1220mm Center to center is about 1185mm Ok so Front - Outside to outside is about 1165mm Center to center is about 1125mm Have you checked out the new Hercules Conversion video? It also has rails to the front now.
Can’t thank you enough for getting those measurements for me. I’m looking for some kind of storage case that will fit comfortably between the rails at the front of the roof. My Troopy is currently inside a shipping container on the high seas so I don’t have access to it for another 4/5 weeks.
@@troopyinafrica the container was supposed to leave Dubai over a month ago but because of the Houthi pirate situation halting shipping through the Suez Canal it has to go the long way round via the South African cape. The container is bound for Morocco…, I’m heading to the UK in search of a storage case that will fit between the front storage rails… at this rate I will have gone to the Uk, sourced the case and returned to Morocco before the container arrives 😫 I own both an AluCab Hercules and the Alu Innovation Popup conversions…, but have access to neither of them from Morocco right now!
Thanks for this detailed review, great job! I will have passengers in the back sitting left and right along the sides of the car and wonder wether they can still sit comfortably in the Troopy after the Kronos conversion? 40mm less headspace sounds a lot comparing it to the Hercules. What is your impression about that?
Well I suspect it would depend on the seats you use. The Troopy in the video actually has a Toyota Fortuner rear seat in the back for their 17yr old son. So it does work.
What’s the distance between the roof load bars on the Alu Innovation? You’ve mentioned the length… but it’s the distance between the load bars that interests me for my project. Thx!
Thank you, very informative, would be interesting to know the difference in roof height(headroom) from the floor to underside of ceiling above the second row of troopy seats and maximum mattess thickness that can be fitted for comfort purposes
The second row seats should have the same height as we measured at the back 1070mm AC vs 1030mm AI. As we showed you can see the AI sits that 40mm lower on the window head. Check the relationship of the roof to the grab handle in the shot of the gas struts. As for mattresses I do not have an answer, but a number of guys in our @troopysinafrica group have the AI and AC - I will ask on our WhatsApp group later and see what the answers are.
Well done. An interesting comparison. Personally I'm now leaning towards the Alu Innovation should we ever decide to go roof conversion. A look at the canvas materials would be good, plus lack of light getting in on those sunny early mornings. Blackout is good for us to ensure a lie in on lazy days. We have noticed that Alu cab has changed the design of the sealing strip on the front hinge several times due to it being crap..has Alu Innovation solved this problem? Also the sealing strip around the sides and back appear different?? Cheers.
Our AC is new so wasn’t aware the hinge had been changed many times. But I guess as they where the first in Africa making a Pop Top it comes with the territory of development🤷🏽♂️. AI I have also heard nothing as yet, but again we do not have much rain here and loads of guys not traveling keep them under cover. Guys hear seem not to want to admit that on our group 😂. It like you drive a Landrover or you drive a Landrover debate 😂 As for canvas I would say they are much of a muchness. Both can black out.
@@troopyinafrica this is the biggest problem when it comes to any super expensive overland item. No one likes to admit that maybe it's not as good as the amount it costs or that it doesn't get used much. The so called "must have" items can trick most of us into spending unnecessary money. Keep the videos coming and feel free to give your opinion....your opinion is valuable 👌
I just saw a Paul Marsh one on our Troopy trip last week. If you look at the latest troopys in africa video I posted you can see it at 7:28, 8:48 & 18:50. they painted the hinges on the front the same colour and it looks awesome.
I have the AluCab and when I had it installed with both the shadow awning and the shower cube I had it weighed and it was 120kg for all three. I do not have states for the AI. That said it does apprear to have more aluminum. The cover plates alone down the side might add to the weight.
Can you give any feedback on Alu Innovations as a company? I tried contacting them via their website contact us page. But it has been 3 months without an answer from them. I was after some information and pricing to see if it would be viable for me to import their product for my new Troopy.
Very useful gents
Thank you.
Well done mate. Great comparison vid. Good amount of stats. I think the Mulgo is wider than both!
Thanks Guys! Your vid was the inspiration. Guys here would like to see the follow up aka guys moaning about their roof conversion 🤣. Would be a great fire side chat idea.
Nice detailed vid, exactly what I was looking for
Thank you man. Hoping to get some walk arounds of some of the other rigs in our TIA group (Troopys in Africa) in the coming months.
Nice comparison! Thanks for that!
If I may the only measures missing is the height between the floor and the ceiling (when closed). I agree that’s quite hard to measure☺️😉but it will help me to choose if I would know which conversion has the most room to store bedding….thanks in advance
Agreed the one dimension we did not take. Only thought afterwards we could have pushed a steel ruler between the two floor boards as measured total height inside .
AI do now make deeper / higher roof for more bedding, but me personally I don’t think it looks nice.
Also rumor has it AC are going to update the Hercules soon with more of everything I suspect and possibly bedding as well. So if you not in a rush maybe 🤔 wait 🤷🏻♂️🤙
That stays the best comparison ever!!!😊
By the way what’s your thoughts about room for bedding (when closed), from your point of view, which is the best?
@@peterpatch7144 Peter everyone on our @troopysinafrica whatsapp group seem to think they are both the same with looking at the standard. You can get blanket and sleeping bags inside - no pillows. Otherwise the catches will break on bad roads. But again the new AC may have more when it comes.
@@troopyinafricaok, thanks! I didn’t known that a new AC will come soon. Good to know so I don’t rush to make my conversion.
@@troopyinafricathere is a way to become a member of your WhatsApp group?
I’ll need some advices for my new Troopy project?
I have a Kronos and the one thing I really hate is the bed frame is short , so you cannot lay in bed with hatch open…smaller hatch or a easy mod to extend the main frame would have made all the difference. I’m only 6ft so not a tall guy.
As for both the latches are useless for here in Australia
Brilliant video,,,if you were looking between the two this video is for you.
Thanks Dude. I do know they have made one with two flaps here in SA, i.e. one each side. Maybe they could modify it for you? Cassiem the owner is very helpful to the community here. Maybe reach out on their instagram page. Or DM me on mine🤙
I’m sure a lot of people will find this very helpful. I’m glad I didn’t have a choice when I did mine, I would have found it very difficult. I’m very happy with my Hercules though. Just wish I could spend more time in it! (Geoffthetroopy)
Hey WOW! A troopy celebrity 😜. Thanks for the comment Chris🤙. Personally I would still god for the AC for quality and finish, but do love the roof line of the AI.
More to the point… what’s the difference between the roof rails at the tapered end of the Alu innovation so I can fit a solar panel there?
Remember they tapper to the front. Panels are normally square. Quit a challenge.
Ok so Back - Outside to outside is about 1220mm Center to center is about 1185mm
Ok so Front - Outside to outside is about 1165mm Center to center is about 1125mm
Have you checked out the new Hercules Conversion video? It also has rails to the front now.
Can’t thank you enough for getting those measurements for me.
I’m looking for some kind of storage case that will fit comfortably between the rails at the front of the roof.
My Troopy is currently inside a shipping container on the high seas so I don’t have access to it for another 4/5 weeks.
@@streakychambers658 High Seas to where may I ask?
@@troopyinafrica the container was supposed to leave Dubai over a month ago but because of the Houthi pirate situation halting shipping through the Suez Canal it has to go the long way round via the South African cape.
The container is bound for Morocco…,
I’m heading to the UK in search of a storage case that will fit between the front storage rails… at this rate I will have gone to the Uk, sourced the case and returned to Morocco before the container arrives 😫
I own both an AluCab Hercules and the Alu Innovation Popup conversions…, but have access to neither of them from Morocco right now!
@@streakychambers658 can stop off in SA and get Cassiem to build you a box 😜. He has a great team doing custom work for people in Cape Town
Thanks for this detailed review, great job! I will have passengers in the back sitting left and right along the sides of the car and wonder wether they can still sit comfortably in the Troopy after the Kronos conversion? 40mm less headspace sounds a lot comparing it to the Hercules. What is your impression about that?
Well I suspect it would depend on the seats you use. The Troopy in the video actually has a Toyota Fortuner rear seat in the back for their 17yr old son. So it does work.
What’s the distance between the roof load bars on the Alu Innovation? You’ve mentioned the length… but it’s the distance between the load bars that interests me for my project.
Thx!
I do not own the AI conversion. Have checked with mates on Troopys in Africa and asked them to measure.
Thank you, very informative, would be interesting to know the difference in roof height(headroom) from the floor to underside of ceiling above the second row of troopy seats and maximum mattess thickness that can be fitted for comfort purposes
The second row seats should have the same height as we measured at the back 1070mm AC vs 1030mm AI. As we showed you can see the AI sits that 40mm lower on the window head. Check the relationship of the roof to the grab handle in the shot of the gas struts. As for mattresses I do not have an answer, but a number of guys in our @troopysinafrica group have the AI and AC - I will ask on our WhatsApp group later and see what the answers are.
@@troopyinafricaany update regarding the maximum mattress thickness difference?
@@bal1884 Not as yet
Well done. An interesting comparison. Personally I'm now leaning towards the Alu Innovation should we ever decide to go roof conversion. A look at the canvas materials would be good, plus lack of light getting in on those sunny early mornings. Blackout is good for us to ensure a lie in on lazy days.
We have noticed that Alu cab has changed the design of the sealing strip on the front hinge several times due to it being crap..has Alu Innovation solved this problem? Also the sealing strip around the sides and back appear different??
Cheers.
Our AC is new so wasn’t aware the hinge had been changed many times. But I guess as they where the first in Africa making a Pop Top it comes with the territory of development🤷🏽♂️. AI I have also heard nothing as yet, but again we do not have much rain here and loads of guys not traveling keep them under cover. Guys hear seem not to want to admit that on our group 😂. It like you drive a Landrover or you drive a Landrover debate 😂
As for canvas I would say they are much of a muchness. Both can black out.
@@troopyinafrica this is the biggest problem when it comes to any super expensive overland item. No one likes to admit that maybe it's not as good as the amount it costs or that it doesn't get used much. The so called "must have" items can trick most of us into spending unnecessary money. Keep the videos coming and feel free to give your opinion....your opinion is valuable 👌
The Kronos gets my vote, it looks my factory.
I just saw a Paul Marsh one on our Troopy trip last week. If you look at the latest troopys in africa video I posted you can see it at 7:28, 8:48 & 18:50. they painted the hinges on the front the same colour and it looks awesome.
@@troopyinafrica Thanks, i'll have a look.
Nice!! what is the weight difference ?
I have the AluCab and when I had it installed with both the shadow awning and the shower cube I had it weighed and it was 120kg for all three.
I do not have states for the AI. That said it does apprear to have more aluminum. The cover plates alone down the side might add to the weight.
How do the purchase cost and installation cost compare?
Very much of a muchness. Here in SA it seems the Alu Innovations is about 10% more. AluCab are planning a new version, but who knows when.
Can you give any feedback on Alu Innovations as a company?
I tried contacting them via their website contact us page. But it has been 3 months without an answer from them. I was after some information and pricing to see if it would be viable for me to import their product for my new Troopy.
Marcus, sorry didn’t see your comment come through. If you email me I can ask Kasiem the owner if I can send you his mobile number.
troopyinafrica@gmail.com