Haven't finished the video, but for the wifi, as someone who does tech support, there is a reason for that. External antenna has a better signal. Internal ones, especially in denser/thicker devices, like a printer, would cause a Faraday cage like effect. Essentially, it will turn your wifi into a mess of wifi issues. Internal antennae exist in mobile devices, but they are not idea. It's why if you have a device with internal ones, it would get worse signal than a device with external. Additionally mobile devices have minimal metal to prevent said Faraday cage. Printers tend to be metal. Basically, it's recommended to use external when able. On large, mostly stationery devices, the larger external ones are used.
i liked the Mars 4 where they had this under the cover. just a tidier profile. but yeah, I do get more issues without external antennas. but in those cases, I'm not alone and it may be duye to stupid integration methods.
With regards to the (not) included heater - I live in Australia and have recently received my Saturn 4. The problem is, daytime peak temperatures in my garage at the moment are around 16°, which is too cold for resin printing. The point is - it gets cold, no matter where in the world you live. Eagerly awaiting the release of the (pre-ordered) elegoo heater unit, in August (which is likely too late for winter this year)
I think when the printer is running the heat from the components would mean it was fine, but I take your point. I use a band heater when I need a boost but will pick up a heater in due course for sure
I live in Canada, we get some very cold winters, and while I understand the desire for built in heaters, I'd honestly rather see it as an optional add-on. It's just not something EVERYONE needs, depending on your setup, and where in the world you are. From a company stand point, putting in a feature that might be only used by a small percentage of the population makes it an unnecessary margin factor for the sales.
I got an original mars many moons ago and it still works fine. Don't care for the new build plate for the same reasons you and others stated. I'll be buying one I'm sure but it'll be at least a year form now to see how reliable the tilt mechanism is.
Im glad for the following 2 design choices over the current gen competition: 1. No heater. I absolutely don't need one where I live. Temperatures have hit 50c on rare ocasion. If anything, I need a cooler. 2. No pumps. I dont want extra crap to deal with regard to cleaning or failing on me. Per the potential problems you pointed out, there is still room for improvement in the keeping the thing clean area. Ive had a lot of failed prints on my Saturn 2 but the machinery has been solid. I'm hoping this or the S4 ultra are better with the auto zero and tilt vat. My Photon Mono 2 failed within 90 days of purchase with a failed motor / gear. It just makes noises instead of rotating the screw. Hopefully 3rd purchase is a charm.
Do you have a video (or can you refer me to one) that takes a 3D resin print with the Mars 5 Ultra (or something similar) from the beginning (STL file, adding a base) to the end (UV, IPA washing, etc.)? Good video, btw! I have everything I need but don't want to begin without some knowledge/confidence on how to complete all the steps. Thx!
Check out this one, while it doesn’t run step by step it links to lots of good videos and creators and also goes over some basics too. Jump on my discord too and I will help you out
I'm so tempted to buy one haha but I'll wait for the sales. My Saturn 3 Ultra is still going strong and that's the same resolution as the Saturn 4 Ultra. It was such a beast to get it to work in the beginning and I'm a little sad that Elegoo just abandoned it with some menu options like the live update not working. (Which then now clearly is available on the Saturn 4 Ultra). Feels like last generation really was just some stopgap release for these ones... but I get decent minis out of it so I guess it's not the worst.
Yeh that sucks but if the 3 isn’t broken don’t try to fix it. And you should look at the Saturn 4 rather than the Mars, going back to a small build plate will be too annoying
@@RisingApe That is true, I can print a whole little army on one plate now. :D I was just thinking of getting the cheaper option to get that tilting plate and try it at a cheaper price. Just never having to dial in lift speeds again and only having to calibrate exposure time would be such a boon! :D
I was in the same "wait for the sales" boat, but then I realized that a pre-order sale is a sale. Can get it now without waiting for some arbitrary permission to purchase it before a Christmas/New Year Sale.
I would rather have the lift off lid, I hope they keep that in some of their printers. Glad the heater is an option because I don't need one. This one is perfect for me, its on order.
@@RisingApe "price" the printer is cheaper, "space" where I print is small plus this may sound odd but I feel 90% of thee smell stays in the lid if I don't flip it upside down until I get over to my exhost fan... also the sided ports work the best for my situation :)
For someone who is looking to get his first 3-D printer, is he plate big enough for primarily printing minis for Star Wars Legion? Many on Reddit advise to just buy Saturn 3 for a bigger plate for future proofing.
So my take on that is YES, I used a printer this size for years, and even printed a knight equivalent that stands 14” tall, it just takes a bit longer, you can print something like 6-10 troops on this on one plate in a few hours. It also takes up less room and costs $200 less. BUT having a bigger plate is useful if you use them a lot, so if you know that in the future you will be cranking out multiple armies/ larger pieces regularly then the Saturn is the better shout.
I still don't get why so many of these printers put the power switch at the back. Now that I have my setup in a grow tent, it's a royal pain to turn on and off. Why can't they just put power and USB at the front?!!??! As for that price, the $269 USD is launch only, it'll be higher once the pre-order period has finished. I'm glad to see they've brought the tilting mechanism to the cheaper price range, but oof, that build plate is not that great of a setup.
Be very careful with your purchase. Elegoo may sell replacement parts for the Mars 5 Ultra. They do not sell replacement parts for the Mars 5. One resin leak and you are buying a new printer. There are no replacement LCDs for the Mars 5.
if the auto leveling is really just auto homing, do you need to level manually - if so how easy is it to level ? also changing FEP, usual Elegoo VAT with billions of screws ?
@@RisingApe be nice to see how those 2 aspects work, its good when 3D printers just work, but its when you have to troubleshoot that you find out how user friendly they really are
Fauxhammer? I stopped watching Fauxhammer after he admitted he was putting misleading scenes in his videos as a "joke" and then claimed I was at fault for taking his videos seriously. We look to leading reviewers for best practices, but it turns out he's not really good for that.
There are plenty of reviewers out there I am a big fan of FauxHammer and his no BS approach. All most of us are trying to do is make interesting videos and give honest feedback. It’s actually harder to do than you might think
@@RisingApe I worked in video production for years. I already know what's involved. And I know that if he is making information videos and claiming they are information videos, they should be real information, not BS that he smirks at fooling the newbies with, which is what he does.
@@Mikilangelo For many videos I noticed a shot where he was pouring his resin, not into the vat, but on top of the build plate and letting it drizzle down into the vat. It seemed odd bu, I'm just a novice and he's the TH-cam expert, right? I've taken chemistry classes and there are some non-obvious procedures for properly transferring materials... maybe it's one of those, I wonder. I ask about it and he says it's a "long-running joke". I say it's misleading and he says I shouldn't have looked to him expecting information. Wow. That's a tech reviewer saying that. I'm sure his fans will insist on giving him a pass for that one little thing, but... that's the one I've caught so far. How much of the rest of it is BS too but I haven't detected yet because... I'm a novice! So, no reason to continue watching Fauxhammer. We have other options, people who are not trying to prank the newbies. Truth be told, his videos are already over-bloated with repetitive commentary and ranting. They were already a waste of time on that count even without the hi... larious... jokes.
Mate, I had no idea you packed in so much Kudos to this review. Amazing video and as always, I love your work!
Thank you mate! Back at you
Faux sent me here
Haven't finished the video, but for the wifi, as someone who does tech support, there is a reason for that.
External antenna has a better signal. Internal ones, especially in denser/thicker devices, like a printer, would cause a Faraday cage like effect. Essentially, it will turn your wifi into a mess of wifi issues.
Internal antennae exist in mobile devices, but they are not idea. It's why if you have a device with internal ones, it would get worse signal than a device with external. Additionally mobile devices have minimal metal to prevent said Faraday cage. Printers tend to be metal.
Basically, it's recommended to use external when able. On large, mostly stationery devices, the larger external ones are used.
Thank you, everyday is a school day, as I say I am not that techy, but appreciate the comment
i liked the Mars 4 where they had this under the cover. just a tidier profile. but yeah, I do get more issues without external antennas. but in those cases, I'm not alone and it may be duye to stupid integration methods.
This was lovely buddy, it was a joy to watch even though i could not care less about the topic❤
Thanks man, I really appreciate the support, the next one will be more up your alley
With regards to the (not) included heater - I live in Australia and have recently received my Saturn 4.
The problem is, daytime peak temperatures in my garage at the moment are around 16°, which is too cold for resin printing.
The point is - it gets cold, no matter where in the world you live.
Eagerly awaiting the release of the (pre-ordered) elegoo heater unit, in August (which is likely too late for winter this year)
I think when the printer is running the heat from the components would mean it was fine, but I take your point. I use a band heater when I need a boost but will pick up a heater in due course for sure
@@RisingApe it's not. I've tried and had numerous failures that I can only attribute to the temperature
I live in Canada, we get some very cold winters, and while I understand the desire for built in heaters, I'd honestly rather see it as an optional add-on. It's just not something EVERYONE needs, depending on your setup, and where in the world you are. From a company stand point, putting in a feature that might be only used by a small percentage of the population makes it an unnecessary margin factor for the sales.
Seeing the price point here too, I would rather they kept the cost down and then I can spend it later as needed.
I got an original mars many moons ago and it still works fine. Don't care for the new build plate for the same reasons you and others stated. I'll be buying one I'm sure but it'll be at least a year form now to see how reliable the tilt mechanism is.
I think that’s absolutely the right approach, you won’t need to wait a full year but certainly give it a few months
Im glad for the following 2 design choices over the current gen competition:
1. No heater. I absolutely don't need one where I live. Temperatures have hit 50c on rare ocasion. If anything, I need a cooler.
2. No pumps. I dont want extra crap to deal with regard to cleaning or failing on me.
Per the potential problems you pointed out, there is still room for improvement in the keeping the thing clean area.
Ive had a lot of failed prints on my Saturn 2 but the machinery has been solid. I'm hoping this or the S4 ultra are better with the auto zero and tilt vat. My Photon Mono 2 failed within 90 days of purchase with a failed motor / gear. It just makes noises instead of rotating the screw. Hopefully 3rd purchase is a charm.
Thanks, great comment
Great Review! Thank you. Im very annoyed by the RERF being paywalled behind the Ultra tag.
Yeh, I agree, it should be a standard feature on all 3d printers
Do you have a video (or can you refer me to one) that takes a 3D resin print with the Mars 5 Ultra (or something similar) from the beginning (STL file, adding a base) to the end (UV, IPA washing, etc.)? Good video, btw! I have everything I need but don't want to begin without some knowledge/confidence on how to complete all the steps. Thx!
Check out this one, while it doesn’t run step by step it links to lots of good videos and creators and also goes over some basics too. Jump on my discord too and I will help you out
i live in southern Florida so everyone complaining about a heater is a moot point for me.
Yup more a dehumidifier that you need 😉
I'm so tempted to buy one haha but I'll wait for the sales. My Saturn 3 Ultra is still going strong and that's the same resolution as the Saturn 4 Ultra. It was such a beast to get it to work in the beginning and I'm a little sad that Elegoo just abandoned it with some menu options like the live update not working. (Which then now clearly is available on the Saturn 4 Ultra).
Feels like last generation really was just some stopgap release for these ones... but I get decent minis out of it so I guess it's not the worst.
Yeh that sucks but if the 3 isn’t broken don’t try to fix it. And you should look at the Saturn 4 rather than the Mars, going back to a small build plate will be too annoying
@@RisingApe That is true, I can print a whole little army on one plate now. :D I was just thinking of getting the cheaper option to get that tilting plate and try it at a cheaper price. Just never having to dial in lift speeds again and only having to calibrate exposure time would be such a boon! :D
I was in the same "wait for the sales" boat, but then I realized that a pre-order sale is a sale. Can get it now without waiting for some arbitrary permission to purchase it before a Christmas/New Year Sale.
@@KTSTHofficial True, but I don't need it right now. :D And that way I can wait to see how the tilt mechanism pans out if it breaks down quickly etc.
#DripBib 😂❤ Love the name
Thanks
I would rather have the lift off lid, I hope they keep that in some of their printers. Glad the heater is an option because I don't need one. This one is perfect for me, its on order.
Interesting, just out of interest why do you prefer lift off lids?
@@RisingApe "price" the printer is cheaper, "space" where I print is small plus this may sound odd but I feel 90% of thee smell stays in the lid if I don't flip it upside down until I get over to my exhost fan... also the sided ports work the best for my situation :)
For someone who is looking to get his first 3-D printer, is he plate big enough for primarily printing minis for Star Wars Legion? Many on Reddit advise to just buy Saturn 3 for a bigger plate for future proofing.
So my take on that is YES, I used a printer this size for years, and even printed a knight equivalent that stands 14” tall, it just takes a bit longer, you can print something like 6-10 troops on this on one plate in a few hours. It also takes up less room and costs $200 less. BUT having a bigger plate is useful if you use them a lot, so if you know that in the future you will be cranking out multiple armies/ larger pieces regularly then the Saturn is the better shout.
I still don't get why so many of these printers put the power switch at the back. Now that I have my setup in a grow tent, it's a royal pain to turn on and off. Why can't they just put power and USB at the front?!!??! As for that price, the $269 USD is launch only, it'll be higher once the pre-order period has finished.
I'm glad to see they've brought the tilting mechanism to the cheaper price range, but oof, that build plate is not that great of a setup.
i agree, power buttons need to be on the front
Be very careful with your purchase. Elegoo may sell replacement parts for the Mars 5 Ultra. They do not sell replacement parts for the Mars 5. One resin leak and you are buying a new printer. There are no replacement LCDs for the Mars 5.
I thought the screens are the same for both printers? Regardless you should buy the ultra, if only for the calibration tools
if the auto leveling is really just auto homing, do you need to level manually - if so how easy is it to level ?
also changing FEP, usual Elegoo VAT with billions of screws ?
Honestly I dont know, mine came pre leveled and printed perfectly out of the box, with the FEP, yes billions of screws
@@RisingApe be nice to see how those 2 aspects work,
its good when 3D printers just work, but its when you have to troubleshoot that you find out how user friendly they really are
Comment so James can buy Legos (fauxhammer joke)
thank you... more lego inbound
@@RisingApe Lego's for the WIN!
I don't get it, in China the platforms always gives some sort of cash back, we get this printer at about 220 quid
I literally received the pricing information just before release, I am sure more will be released in due course
Fauxhammer? I stopped watching Fauxhammer after he admitted he was putting misleading scenes in his videos as a "joke" and then claimed I was at fault for taking his videos seriously. We look to leading reviewers for best practices, but it turns out he's not really good for that.
There are plenty of reviewers out there I am a big fan of FauxHammer and his no BS approach. All most of us are trying to do is make interesting videos and give honest feedback. It’s actually harder to do than you might think
@@RisingApe I worked in video production for years. I already know what's involved. And I know that if he is making information videos and claiming they are information videos, they should be real information, not BS that he smirks at fooling the newbies with, which is what he does.
@@robcat2075 Any examples of these false informations? I am curious to know what I'm being fooled.
@@Mikilangelo For many videos I noticed a shot where he was pouring his resin, not into the vat, but on top of the build plate and letting it drizzle down into the vat.
It seemed odd bu, I'm just a novice and he's the TH-cam expert, right? I've taken chemistry classes and there are some non-obvious procedures for properly transferring materials... maybe it's one of those, I wonder.
I ask about it and he says it's a "long-running joke". I say it's misleading and he says I shouldn't have looked to him expecting information. Wow. That's a tech reviewer saying that.
I'm sure his fans will insist on giving him a pass for that one little thing, but... that's the one I've caught so far. How much of the rest of it is BS too but I haven't detected yet because... I'm a novice!
So, no reason to continue watching Fauxhammer. We have other options, people who are not trying to prank the newbies.
Truth be told, his videos are already over-bloated with repetitive commentary and ranting. They were already a waste of time on that count even without the hi... larious... jokes.
this video has terrible pacing, stop interrupting yourself
Thanks for the .. ooh look a butterfly
@@RisingApe I think it's funny.