Yes, it is a weird idea! Filling in the Shopsmith Floating Table "Abyss"

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  • @benalmandres8851
    @benalmandres8851 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Awesome idea addition to the floating table. 13:05

  • @billmclaughlin8438
    @billmclaughlin8438 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Good video. Thank you. This is why I am one of your 1,000 subscribers.
    I can see adding a router adapter plate to that extension table. One that has a crank for raising and lowering the router.
    Instead of using wooden dowels that might wear out, I’ll try using metal ones instead.

  • @MrMarkpeggy
    @MrMarkpeggy ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Thanks for sharing this, Scott. It is amazing to me the capability of the Shopsmith with your clever thinking.

  • @dustywoodworker5305
    @dustywoodworker5305 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Excellent!! That makes for a really neat outfeed table. Now all that is needed is to get rid of that support leg by tyIng it to the outfeed side table leg rather than using the telescopic leg. Doing that would allow the table change to occur when the depth of cut is changed. That is to say - all table move up and down and tilt in unison.

    • @MyGrowthRings
      @MyGrowthRings  ปีที่แล้ว

      Dusty, I’ve done that but wasn’t happy with the tendency for the travel tubes to rack and jamb against the pitons. I may be exaggerating the issue and I’m sure it could be improved by lightening the support table, but I just wasn’t happy with it. Do you use that approach? Scott

    • @dustywoodworker5305
      @dustywoodworker5305 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@MyGrowthRings
      Yes, Scott. I do use that approach.. I began concept testing with a much heavier table than I use now. My current (and probably last) table version is made with a good grade of 1/2" plywood reinforced across the infeed edge to stiffening and to provide a thicker surface to attach the brackets to. You can see in one of the photo images that the brackets are major over kill. They were (and still can be) used with the Shopsmith Extension Table Brackets (555997)..

    • @dustywoodworker5305
      @dustywoodworker5305 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@MyGrowthRings
      Yes I do on a regular basis. My table is as light weight as I could make it (1/2' Baltic Birch Plywood). Brackets accommodate the Shopsmith Extension Brackets though I hardly ever use them. Tried posting a photo image - no go.. The history of concept is docvumented on a SS site.

    • @peterg2836
      @peterg2836 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@dustywoodworker5305 not to be a pain - but could you give a link to that SS thread? Thanks

  • @terremolander5243
    @terremolander5243 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    What a pretty cool idea! Keep sharing your insights.

  • @michaelbeauchaine6912
    @michaelbeauchaine6912 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Great video! ! 1

  • @williamSmith-fv5hi
    @williamSmith-fv5hi ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I have no choice! I will need to replicate this excellent idea without any modifications. I've had my 510 since the mid 80's and never cease to be amazed. Your videos are always the first to be viewed. Thanks, from Mechanicsville Virginia.

  • @kirkschweighofer2966
    @kirkschweighofer2966 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I like it. If I knew this earlier I’d most likely wouldn’t have bought all of this.
    I have the 2 sets table extension brackets, 2 sets of five ft. tubes, 12 short tubes, 3 sets legs, 10 floating, 3 extension, and 3 main tables. Oh ya almost forgot that I still have the pro fence router table as well. So I can build some table layouts.
    Thanks for sharing Scott.

  • @marcbarash6045
    @marcbarash6045 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Thanks Scott

  • @georgeballentine1045
    @georgeballentine1045 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great idea

  • @dannybuck3649
    @dannybuck3649 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Scott, I bought my Mark V in the early '80's while stationed in New Orleans while in the Military. It has traveled the country with me through many moves during a Military career, civilian career and retirement. Other life obligations and distractions have most ofthen prevented my realizing anywhere near full use of my shopsmith. I subsequently acquired the additional hardware to upgrade to a Mk v 510, but still haven;t gotten much use. None-the-less, I am finding your you-tube channel chock full of fascinating tips and guideance for helping anyone get more out of the Shopsmith platform. Thanks for great content.

    • @MyGrowthRings
      @MyGrowthRings  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks for your kind words of encouragement. Sounds like you are living the same vagabond life I grew up with. Hopefully you’ll find a way to carve shone shop time out of your busy schedule. I suggest commuting to making something for someone.

  • @dougpeetzke1831
    @dougpeetzke1831 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I have the Shopsmith Floating Table Brackets, that setup work great for ripping stock. I see many options with your floating table setup.

  • @samspade2519
    @samspade2519 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Another winner! Will be doing that to my older mk5. On my 520 I got ....nubbins. that sounds so bad. You you mentioned it briefly but could you demonstrate on a 520? Thanks again Scott

  • @mrsamuribob
    @mrsamuribob หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Good video. Thank for the idea.

  • @tzavitz
    @tzavitz ปีที่แล้ว +4

    yet another great video. I love your approach and how you use the Shopsmith to do all kinds of things!

  • @edmalin7359
    @edmalin7359 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Great follow up on this subject. When you started talking about making holes in the floating table to match the main table I thought you might use doweling points to mark the holes since that was mentioned when we discussed joining methods at the last board meeting. I may have missed it but you didn't mention that the the sides of the floating table are not perpendicular to the top. This shouldn't matter the way you drill the holes with the floating table upside down on the main table but it could be a problem maintaining alignment if those holes are drilled by hand or in vertical mode. The holes must be drilled parallel to the table top, not perpendicular to the table sides.

    • @MyGrowthRings
      @MyGrowthRings  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That’s a very good point Ed, and no I didn’t mention it. Thanks for bringing it up. Scott.

  • @BadAppleWoodwerx
    @BadAppleWoodwerx ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Watching you do the horizontal boring was worth the entire video. I've had so much trouble with the main table flexing as pressure is applied to the quill. Seeing how you support the table was YUGE. 👍

    • @MyGrowthRings
      @MyGrowthRings  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Glad you got that from it. I did a video on that topic: th-cam.com/video/MCOs47th1lo/w-d-xo.html

  • @johnhoshock9034
    @johnhoshock9034 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Excellent idea, Scott. Next time I need an extension table I will definitely be doing this. Thanks so much for sharing this with us.

  • @Kansastreetop
    @Kansastreetop ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Sounds like a plan.

  • @toddharshbarger8616
    @toddharshbarger8616 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great follow and really cool idea. Ever time i resolve to clear out all my 510 extras ( since ive gone to 520) you give me reason to hold onto them!

  • @chrisp7957
    @chrisp7957 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Another good video. I really enjoy listening to people talk that are experts in there field and you obviously are

    • @MyGrowthRings
      @MyGrowthRings  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks, Chris. I am a little obsessed!

    • @chrisp7957
      @chrisp7957 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@MyGrowthRings I would say dedicated, has a better ring to it. Lol

  • @andrecharpentier2567
    @andrecharpentier2567 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Ingenious idea. It is a great way to make a rear support table. I upgraded my Mark V model 500 to a model 520 around 2007. That left me with the Model 500 table, carriage and rip fence that I have been using as my rear support table. That allowed me to easily raise, lower and tilt the 500 Table as needed. I have also used the new extension table brackets. They do work well and are easy to use and does allow the use of the rip fence. However, your design gives a much larger surface.

  • @shopsmithwoodworker2023
    @shopsmithwoodworker2023 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Scott, brilliant as always. I’m recovering from eye surgery, so I’m going to use this time to rewatch your excellent videos. Thanks again. 5:07

    • @MyGrowthRings
      @MyGrowthRings  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks, Doug. So happy to hear you are on the mend.

  • @jvmiller1995
    @jvmiller1995 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I have not used it in along time but I use to have a rear support very similar this that I had usedb in between my floating tables. But I did something different and down right genus shop smith should of done. The rear legs on the main table I found a piece of pipe that just fit inside it and somewhat snug. You can even use a dowel rod. I drilled a small 3/16 hole and put a piece of welding rod through it like a pin making the rear table leg about 4 to 6 inches longer than factory for the main table.( of course it has not got the gears to raise and lower the table but still. it gives the perfect place to then make and attach a leg that clips to the piece you added and makes a 45 degree support to hold the rear table folded out you just made. Now when you adjust the table height it will go up and down with it as it is supported to the same rear leg to the main table. Then simply remove the 45 support and the work table hangs off the back to store against a wall. If you do not follow the Idea well enough let me now I might be able to take a pic. But the entire Idea is it is a extension table That moves with the main table.

    • @MyGrowthRings
      @MyGrowthRings  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I’ve done something similar, but didn’t like the additional weight that was cantilevered on the table. Glad it works for you though.

  • @johnbittner620
    @johnbittner620 ปีที่แล้ว

    Scott, this is a great idea. I bought a Mark 5 in 1983 and have over the years updated it to a Mark 520, and the new Power Head ( did that myself, because I'm frugal). Have used it tons, even built my airplane with it. (another story). I have always struggled with the shortness of the outfeed side however. I have the extension tables but always found them fiddly and time consuming, to set up and take down. I really like your filler piece, and will try bolting it on to my extension tables. What i see as a great advantage is folding the back leg to store it right on the saw. Thanks for the great ideas. Keep up the good work.

  • @kevinr1704
    @kevinr1704 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thank you for sharing this. I might have to do this to mine. I use my work table for outfeed, but it would be nice to be able to move either one to a different location and still have an outfeed table.

    • @MyGrowthRings
      @MyGrowthRings  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      It works really well. I should have shown it with the main table in the carriage so it wasn’t swinging about! It’s actually quite solid. Scott

    • @kevinr1704
      @kevinr1704 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @MyGrowthRings I like that setup better than what I'm doing. My table is on rollers, and when I use my planer, I have to move my table over to clear the saw. It's just kind of a pain when you forget to move it and your stock hits the main table of the saw. Besides, I could butt my work table up to the outfeed of the saw, and that would extend my work area for long projects.

  • @jimscruggs5400
    @jimscruggs5400 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I'm working on a remodel for church and need an out feed thank you

    • @MyGrowthRings
      @MyGrowthRings  5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      That’s awesome and you are welcome.

  • @roberthiday3342
    @roberthiday3342 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    very nice, thanks. I got some tips that were unexpected, such as using the sacrificial fence in that particular way to get the flush cut. Also learn something from you Scott.

  • @sassafrasvalley1939
    @sassafrasvalley1939 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks Scott… I like it. It’s a great example of ‘run what you brung, injunearing’.
    I experienced dissatisfaction with outfeed roller stands. Their rollers tend to pull your work off line, unless they are set exactly perpendicular to the blade.
    Next, I bought a Rigid Flip Stop work stand to support outfeed work. It has a flat plastic surface that is slick, solid and can be moved as close or far away as I like. Which is invaluable for long rips.
    But, you have me thinking…. I’m gonna take a look at my 520 to see if it can be adapted. Thanx bud.

  • @SteinerHaus
    @SteinerHaus ปีที่แล้ว

    Neat idea and solution for those who have the "newer" tables. I am using a modified B&D Workmate for the outfeed and another for an infeed table on those rare occasions that I use the Shopsmith for ripping or panel cutting. Oh, a 1982 Mk V 500 and a 1958 Mk V Greenie.

  • @drumaganger
    @drumaganger ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Excellent video. I know it’s only Aluminum, but a few drops of oil will help you save drill bits.

  • @jamespowell9757
    @jamespowell9757 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great video! Quite ingenious! Your shop made outfeed table is very similar to Shopsmith's version, but much less expensive. Unfortunately, both of your floating tables are in use whenever you need the out feed; so extra floating tables would be very handy.
    I used the same principle in an attempt to fill in the gap between the 500 table and the extension table with an extra table top. Also the outfeed table Shopsmith used to sell for the 500 model required drilling holes in the sides of main table to attach the support for the outfield table. It works well, very similar to your set up. I'll send some pictures to your private email which you can share if you desire. jim

  • @pennsy1361
    @pennsy1361 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    A couple of videos ago (I think), you had mentioned add -ons you would like to see Shopmith offer again. I would like to see a re-releade of the Incra bandsaw fence package which was offered a few years ago.

    • @MyGrowthRings
      @MyGrowthRings  ปีที่แล้ว

      I wonder how different that is from the Kreg bandsaw fence?

    • @pennsy1361
      @pennsy1361 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I think there was an adjuster (a micro-adjuster?), and the fence appeared to be easier to adjust than the Shopsmith fence. I do remember from the Shopsmith advertisement that you had to have the aluminum bandsaw table to make the system work.

  • @petewoodhead52
    @petewoodhead52 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Love it! Thanks for sharing this idea and video.

  • @alberttreado3713
    @alberttreado3713 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks Scott!

  • @jimscruggs5400
    @jimscruggs5400 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Now this I can use A lot

  • @litobulanadi4425
    @litobulanadi4425 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Great idea, I will make that board and attach a router under the board.

    • @MyGrowthRings
      @MyGrowthRings  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      That should work quite well.

  • @theredtruckwoodshop2722
    @theredtruckwoodshop2722 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great idea BUT I went a little easier way. I bought a roller stand that I can use on other machines as well.

  • @toddharshbarger8616
    @toddharshbarger8616 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Those indexing nubbins prevent the tables from closely abutting without a gap. Ive heard some people file them away. Have they eliminated those in the latest or is that latest evolution.

    • @MyGrowthRings
      @MyGrowthRings  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      No, they still have them on new units.

  • @willimanfreeman23
    @willimanfreeman23 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Will you have time or in a video show use how to install. The Measuring device on the mark 510 and 520

    • @MyGrowthRings
      @MyGrowthRings  ปีที่แล้ว

      Hey William. Which measuring device?

    • @willimanfreeman23
      @willimanfreeman23 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @My Growth Rings that one that goes on to the mean table for the rip fences. Like most table saw have. If you can answer way shopsmith does not include this when buy a shopsmith.

    • @MyGrowthRings
      @MyGrowthRings  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@willimanfreeman23 Got ya. There isn’t one for the 510 and I’m so used to not using one that so never bothered to get one for my 520. The biggest issue is that the blade doesn’t always come up through the table insert at the same spot, so you’re constantly having to re-zero the gauge.

  • @jamesbrunk9817
    @jamesbrunk9817 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Much lower cost than the Shopsmith Extension Table Brackets. Plus your table provides a much larger surface.

  • @thebeggarswoodshop8756
    @thebeggarswoodshop8756 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Another way, always another way.

    • @MyGrowthRings
      @MyGrowthRings  ปีที่แล้ว

      You aren’t wrong! There are several more ways to skin this cat.

  • @user-cn8fn8qc5c
    @user-cn8fn8qc5c ปีที่แล้ว

    I just bought a $25.00 ? roller stand fo the outtake side.

    • @MyGrowthRings
      @MyGrowthRings  ปีที่แล้ว

      That could work. My issue is that they can be pushed over and they don’t tilt with the table.

  • @choochoo3985
    @choochoo3985 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Have a question Scott. When reinstalling the quill, I let it slip back in. It’s just hard, causing the miter sat on the quill depth gauge to move out of position.
    I remove the pinion gear assembly and noticed the Woodruff key is gone but in the video you mentioned that’s not uncommon.
    Put it back together seems to work fine. Should I be concerned without the Woodruff pin?
    Thanks as usual. Ted.

    • @MyGrowthRings
      @MyGrowthRings  ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes, you do what the woodruff key in place or there will be times where it will slip when you expected it to be locked, such as when sawing.

    • @choochoo3985
      @choochoo3985 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hey Mark, thank you I watch the video and I looked inside the keys open everything back up. This one did not have the key. Just another? for me to ponder. So I took a 3/8 thick washer and made one. Fits perfect.
      I have no idea what size key it was but I would’ve had to order a box of 200 to get one I guess so I decided to spend two hours my time really worth only $.10 an hour or so.
      Anyway, thanks again Mark enjoy your videos. They’re really great and I so appreciate your advice.
      One more question please.
      Mine has two of the cup washers. Is that right? The video unit had one.
      Ted.

    • @MyGrowthRings
      @MyGrowthRings  ปีที่แล้ว

      @@choochoo3985 Glad to hear it. Yes, some of them do have two cupped washers. that's just something to do with tolerances. Scott

  • @Michael-Homerepair76
    @Michael-Homerepair76 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Good morning Scott. I have some questions regarding some equipment I’ve recently purchased specifically the belt sander, planer, bandsaw and power station. Is it possible to have a direct personal conversation with you, and if so how would I reach you? Thank you Mike

    • @MyGrowthRings
      @MyGrowthRings  8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Mike, email is best. Shoot me a message at ScottMarkwood(at)gmail(dot)com

  • @michaelmyerholtz1191
    @michaelmyerholtz1191 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Ha ha ha ....nubbins.....he he...