Sydney Railways-Last Days of the Red Sets-Run-Pasts-Part 3, Central & Suburban Locations
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- Sydney Railways-Last Days of the Red Sets-Run-Pasts-Part 3, Central & Suburban Locations. These scenes were filmed in December 1991 and January 1992, just before the Red Sets ceased regular operations. In this part, filming was done at Central Station and various suburban locations. There is also a brief slideshow at the end of the presentation.
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Gosh how i miss those days and the smell of the trains and the sound of the Red Rattlers :'(
Hi Vivie, Thanks for watching and for your comment. Yes, weren't those days just grand. I'm glad I captured even just a small part of it. Regards, tassiebaz.
@@tassiebaz Thanks and your Welcome yeah they sure where i miss my childhood yrs. 🙁
Yes, travelling from work in the city, sitting on the floor next to an open door looking straight onto the tracks, reading The Mirror, smoking a Marlboro. All in absence now of course.
They did have their own smell, I think it must have been a combination of the electrics and the hot brakes.
ME AS ASCHOOLKID SITTING ON THE FLOOR ON THE EDGE WITH DOORS OPEN IN A PACKED OUT AFTERNOON PEAK FLYING THRU NON STOP STATIONS BETWEEN WESTMEAD AND SEVENHILLS
When life was simpler without tech, iphones or internet; just talking, laughing, with friends, family while listening to the old rattler. This generation has missed alot.
Hi Rightly Divided, Thanks for watching and for your comment. They sure did miss out, and they will never know how good it was. Regards, tassiebaz.
Oooh yeah have they ever
Yeh bloody oath So True
I lived for those trains as a kid. Watched them race past my street in Auburn whenever I could. Riding them even more fun, especially the express ones. Remember bouncing off the seats lol. Wish we could go back to those days.
Hi Stephen, Thanks for watching and for your comment. You are correct, there's nothing like the good old days and most of the things that go with it. I love any older equipment, and it's just getting harder to find. Regards, tassiebaz.
Love the old red rattlers nice summer day standing near the open doors!!!!! 👌
Yes absolutly in summer time was the best thing about the Rattlers open doors and a nice breeze....
@@dapto234 go dapto dog's!!! 😉✌
weirdly i miss that announcer voice. i remember it so vividly from when i was a kid. I Don't remember the Rattlers though i would have only been 3-4 years old when they were fully taken out of service so the oldest trains i can recall are the S, K and C sets which are somehow still in service :)
Yes, I do remember that voice too. As a kid, I thought ''gees guy is good I hear him in St. Marya and in Blacktown, now he works at other stations too'' It wasn't until the late 80's when I was working in the city in at the age of 16-17 when I used to ride on the red rattlers and choose to stand at the open doors and watch on. brilliant days and many-many great memories. These days with OH&s plus all the incidents of jumpers and accidents... we do not see the doors open.
The voice is Sydney Radio Announcer Grant Goldman
Started my working life as a 16yo in the 70's, catching the original red rattlers (1890s vintage) between Ingleburn & Yennora. Had lovely brass fittings, and fancy old light shades. Used to love standing by the open door.
The automatic door sets ( sputnik single deck motors & tulloch double deck trailers) lasted for over a year after this. But this film was the end for manual doors & all single deck trains.
That was an unusual stopping pattern for that Penrith service earlier in the video:
Redfern, Burwood, Strathfield, Lidcombe, Auburn, Granville-all to Parramatta, Pendle Hill, Blacktown-All to Penrith.
Love these old trains
Same here ☹
The days when Sydney Railways was vibrant and Interesting. Trains had so much character such as bumpiness, track clattering noises, brown rust pylons and etc. I was born in August 1991 and vaguely remember watching trains from the park close to Flemington station where I used to live. That's how I became interested in trains. Too bad I was a toddler so I couldn't get to experience the red rattlers but had a look in them in the Sydney Trains expo heritage 2016. I certainly would have loved them. Now time to enjoy my rides with the S sets till all are gone by early 2019.
Hi Harish, Thanks for watching and for your comment. I enjoy the older types of equipment and try to take a ride whenever I visit places that still have such trams, trains, and trolleybuses operating. Unfortunately, the number of such operations is growing smaller, so enjoy your rides now. Regards, tassiebaz.
Thanks! Will make most of the S sets as I can. Regards, Harish.
Excellent presentation, I was a Car and Wagon Examiner back in the day and use to work on pretty much all of those, the red rattler, I have a front indicator light here that I use as a door stop, great memories I can still smell them.
Hi Brent, Thanks for watching and for your kind words. You must have had a nice intimate view of the rattlers and some great memories. I have a few other presentations on TH-cam that might interest you. Have a look if you get a chance. All the best for the holidays and 2020. Regards, tassiebaz.
Thanks for a great video. The slide show’s a terrific addition - it gave me a chance to look more closely at the details. Good job!
Hi David, Thanks for watching and for your kind words, especially the feedback about the slideshow. I'm glad you enjoyed the presentation. Regards, tassiebaz.
Wow, what a blast from the past...to use an old cliche. I remember I was able to get a student return ticket from Liverpool, see a student priced movie at George St, and and have Maccas for lunch, all for $20. I'd imagine, just like me, you'd never suspected this could be shared around the world via a mere PC, or even mobile device, back in 1991.
Hi arokh72, Thanks for watching and for your comment. You are absolutely correct about sharing videos around the world. Even more recently, sharing things like this was by posting DVDs to friends. Technology has made this easier and more comprehensive too, because people I don't know can now see what I've experienced. It's just great. Stay well. Regards, tassiebaz.
Loved the way you could hang out the doors in the old days !
Hi John, Yeah, in the good old days!! Cheers, tassiebaz.
Thank you for saving and sharing all these videos.Fond memories of using the Red Rattlers in and out of Petersham,Lewisham,Ashfield,Croydon ,Strathfield and Nth.Sydney.I also worked on the old Interubans (before the Tangaras) and the XPT's at the old COMENG workshops in Granville. We also built the 80 and 85 Class locos there
Hi Ken, Thanks for watching and for your comment. I am really thankful that the technology exists so I can share these great memories with those who have similar interests. Regards, tassiebaz.
I miss the old red rattlers, they had nice soft comfortable seats, and big windows you could open on a hot day.
Awesome video, thanks for sharing.
Hi SR 1968, Yeah, we all miss the gold old days. Thanks for watching. I appreciate you taking the time to let me know you enjoyed the video. Stay well. Cheers, tassiebaz.
Excellent scenes, and not spoiled by pointless music over the top of it like some other clown has done to his uploads of old Sydney videos. Well done 👋
Hi WorldOfTransit, Thanks for watching and for your kind words. I'm glad you enjoyed the video and appreciate you taking the time to let me know. I never even considered putting music in a video that already had sound as I agree that it would ruin it. The background sound are a big part of the entertainment value. I did consider music for my slideshow presentations with no sound, but opted against it because I thought it would detract from the pictures. Cheers, tassiebaz, 😃
I was born April 10, 1970, here in Melbourne, and my earliest recollections were the days of timber - bodied Tait "red" and steel Harris "blue", VR blue with twin gold stripes, 7 - car EMUs during the mid 1970s to mid 1980s. The last Tait was retired in late 1984, the last Harris in late 1988.
In the summer of 1987/88, I did my first trip to Sydney, via the locomotive - hauled "Melbourne/Sydney Express" overnight trains. Sydney Express left 8 pm December 26, 1987 and arrived into Sydney at 9 am the following morning. Melbourne Express Sydney 8 pm, January 2, 1988, arriving in Melbourne 9 am the following morning.
During my week in Sydney, I rode on the trains around Sydney and one of my greatest memories are the old single deck red, plus single deck motor double deck trailer red trains alongside the then brand new "K", later re - classified "C" and "R" later re - classified "K", in 1989/90, plus the earlier Comeng and Goninan Series 1 double deck electric trains. You have done a magnificent job with this video, and to show how much appreciation this Melburnian has had for Sydney's train network, I was in Sydney during the time of January 7 - 15, 1992, whilst on a holiday to Adelaide (December 27, 1991 - January 7, 1992), using Australian Airlines flights as Melbourne - Adelaide, Adelaide - Sydney and Sydney - Melbourne. I was at Penrith on Friday, January 10, 1992, heavy rain, and caught one of the last "H" set red trains back to Central. Great memories here and 10 out of 10 👍👍👍👍👍✔️
Hi Ant Mer, Thanks for watching and for the kind words in your most comprehensive and interesting comment. I appreciate you telling me how much you liked the video and taking the time to describe your adventures. Hopefully, you've had a look at some of my other presentations which may be of interest to you. Stay well. Cheers, tassiebaz.
great footage!!!
Hi Tosh, Thanks for watching and for your kind words. Cheers, tassiebaz.
When the rattlers got up some speed and skipped a few stations it was a wild ride, especially crossing carriages!
I arrived in Sydney in 1982 only to find that a good large % of the trains were built in the 1920’s affectionately know as the red rattlers. I’d forgotten that the Tangara trains were around before all the red rattlers were gone. Sydney certainly got good value out of them, shame about the lack of aircon etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc
Hi Michael, Thanks for watching and for your comment. They sure knew how to build things back in the good old days, despite the lack of modern conveniences. When they were built, they were up-to-date for the times. Today's equipment won't last nearly as long. Stay well. Cheers, tassiebaz.
I was driving then, thank you for the memories, good and bad.
Hi Ian, Thanks for watching and for your comment. I hope there were more good memories than bad ones. Stay well. Cheers, tassiebaz.
Central Station in peak hour is just not the same. People would be getting off before the train even stopped and be running to their connecting train which may be waiting on another platform. So it was scurry down the stairs, run through the tunnel, then up stairs three at a time and chase the departing train leaping through the open door. Sometimes an arm would reach out and pull you inside. Me? I would go and buy a bucket of chips and a small coke and wait for the next one.
Hi Liam, Thanks for watching and for your comment. You'll live longer and enjoy life more than the thundering crowd. I use your philosophy, and always leave earlier than I need to so I can relax and enjoy the trip. Regards, tassiebaz.
I can remember the excitement as a kid when the first red double desckers
were introduced. What a novelty.
Hi Mark F, Yes, back in the good old days. Thanks for watching and for your comment. Stay well. Cheers, tassiebaz.
Double deckers silver trains were introduced in 1978.??.
@@robocop5935 Hi, The Internet says "In 1972, the first Comeng-constructed stainless steel double deck power-cars entered service. These cars (C3805-3857) were loosely based on the recently introduced inter-urban cars, the V set. Their stainless-steel bodies were painted the standard "Tuscan red" to match the livery of the existing fleet." Cheers, tassiebaz.
I remember back as a little kid catching the red rattlers in the 1960's with mum and dad then in 1980 I started my apprenticeship and got the 6.10am from Liverpool to St James with my dad every day.Bloody cold in winter.
Hi Colin, Thanks for watching and for taking the time to comment. Glad the presentation brought back some good memories. Stay well. Regards, tassiebaz.
I can still smell these old red trains from my childhood in the 60's. The noise, the open windows and the seats stamped with government logos.
Hi MrButtonpresser, Thanks for watching and for taking the time to comment. I wish there would have been a way to capture smells as well as sights and sounds on video. Stay well. Regards, tassiebaz.
I spent many a carefree Saturday afternoon at the Ashfield pool in the late 70s, watching the red rattlers crawl lazily by to the city. The doors were always wide open and there was never anyone in them!
Hi kwas101, Thanks for watching and for your comment. Regards, tassiebaz.
GOOD FOOTAGE WITH THE U BOATS THEY WERE REALLY THE LOUDEST SCREAMERS
I REMEMBER LIVING IN STANMORE OPPOSITE THE LINE ON THE NORTHERN SIDE AND HEARING THE U BOATS AT FULL SPEED TOWARDS STRATHFIELD OR SYDNEY TERMINAL
Hi don bon, Thanks for watching and for taking the time to comment. Stay well. Cheers, tassiebaz.
they had the most comfortable seats. could easily have a nap on the way home
Hi David, Thanks for watching and for your comment. The comfortable seats are another example of things from the "good old days". Regards, tassiebaz.
Comfortable seats ? Lets be honest, they were hard bulbous uneven lumps of black vinyl, often torn with the stuffing bulging out, cigarette burns and dubious stains. The finicky ratchet windows that took two hands to open, the doors were always either stuck open or closed or one side was stuck closed and you had to wrestle to either open or close. The floor littered with ciggie butts and the lights that never worked in tunnels. For all those reasons. I miss those good ol' days of the red rattlers, I really do. Life was simpler without concern of nanny state regulation, they represented a golden age of post war Sydney. a free and happy society.
Still vividly recall all the train seats discarded beside the tracks on all lines,and how dangerous the rail network was,I miss all those all trains and the memories that I had!.
Still remember the inside, some undescribed green colour, hard vinyl or leather, great to see these old guzzlers once again, i am 41 this year, the last time i rode on that train i was 14, great memories.
HI QANTAS 1978, Thanks for watching and for taking the time to comment.
Have a look at my presentation "Sydney Suburban Railways - Last Days of the Red Sets - On-Board Sights & Sounds" at: th-cam.com/video/9ksR47ARoI4/w-d-xo.html to take a ride on one of these and see the green colour. Regards, tassiebaz.
They had a pungent smell of heat and brake friction. Love the open doors!
Hi inthedesert2008, Agreed!!! 😄 That was in the good old days. Can't leave the doors open nowadays, and the newer carriages are just not the same. Thanks for watching and for your comment Cheers, tassiebaz.
I forgot that the Tangara was that old. I used to travel between Newcastle and Maitland on the Red Rattler. There is one at Tenterfield NSW kept in original condition unfortunately it is not running anymore
Hi Richard, Thanks for watching and for your comment. Hard to believe where time goes. Seems like only yesterday I was taking those pictures. Cheers, tassiebaz. 😁
I'm watching this and I can smellem lol .
Ahhhh the red rattlers spent a whole lotta time on these growing up ... In between carriages on a hot night 😰Had a fight , a fark , a sleep and million other things on them . Cheering
Thanks
Maurie
Hi Maurie, Thanks for watching and for your comment. I'm glad this brought back some good memories for you, and I was pleased to be able to post it and share my memories. Stay well. Cheers, tassiebaz.
It's so jarring seeing it in regular service next to the new EMU at 1:41, they truly do look 100 years apart.
To explain my earlier post, I'll detail my travels across the "rail cities" here.
Sydney: Dec - Jan summers of
1987/88, 1988/89, 1989/90
1990/91, 1991/92, 1993/94
January 2000 & February
2007 (changes of XPT each
direction to/from Brisbane)
Brisbane: Dec - Jan summers of
1989/90, 1992/93 (QLD
Cairns - Brisbane)
February 7 - 14, 2007
Adelaide: Dec - Jan summer
1991/92
Perth:. Dec - Jan summer
1990/91
And with the exception of discount airfares and travel on Australian Airlines as Melbourne - Adelaide - Sydney - Melbourne in 1991/93 and Melbourne - Cairns plus Brisbane - Melbourne in 1992/93, all my journeys were on the major locomotive - hauled trains in sleeping berths.
My "Golden Era" as a male Melbourne Railway Enthusiast was/is as follows:
Melbourne:
Tait "red" and Harris "blue" trains, plus Hitachi and Comeng in 1970s to late 1980s
Sydney:
Red single deck, plus Comeng, Goninan Series 1 (R & S), Goninan Series 2 (K), Goninan Series 3 (C), Goninan Series 4 (T - Tangara) and, in 2007, M set Millenium
Brisbane:
EMU trains, in original grey and light blue trim, plus locomotive - hauled Tin Sets & ICE (1989/90 & 1992/93), and in 2007, EMU, SMU, ICE & IMU
Perth:
1990/91, old WAGR timber locomotive - hauled, leased from Brisbane Tin Sets, 1950s 3 - car DMU, 1960s era 2 - car DMU and then new 1980s Goninan (WA) 2 - car DMU: several months later these were withdrawn once A Series 2 - car EMU trains began services
Adelaide:
300/400 Class (Red Hen), 2000/2100 Class (Jumbo) & then new 3000/3100 Class Comeng trains
Despite some opinions on Perth's system, I distinctly recall seeing Tin Sets from Brisbane running, albeit as 4 - car trains, as opposed to the 7 - car trains they ran as in Brisbane. And I have photos of these trains and train networks from that time. Believe me when I say this video here is magnificent and brings back so many great memories of that era. Again, 10 out of 10 for a great video 👍👍👍👍👍✔️✔️
Hi Ant Mer, Again, thanks for taking the time to do this in such detail. Cheers, tassiebaz.
wow that was a mixed bag @ the 11:27 mark, a S set with the last two carriages a C set
Hi dean r, Thanks for watching and for your comment. Stay well. Cheers, tassiebaz.
@@tassiebaz Hi tazziebaz, thanks for the great videos, very interesting
Hi dean r, It's my pleasure. I'm glad to be able to share these memories with you. Cheers, tassiebaz.
I used to catch a train to go from Cumberland Hospital westmead to red cross house in cronulla to visit mr kid on a sunday when I was on day leave from cumberland hospital 1985
Hi James, Thanks for watching and for your comment. Stay well. Cheers, tassiebaz.
Look at all those beautiful Rattlers
Hi Neil, Great weren't they!!!. Regards, tassiebaz.
Probably a silly question but did people fall out of those open doors? Seems really unsafe but very cool.
Hi SolmanJapan, Thanks for watching and for your question, which is not silly at all. I wouldn't doubt it happened at some time, but I did a search and could not find any record of it happening. Of course, today's trains all have doors that close, which are dictated by modern health and safety protocols (and common sense). Cheers, tassiebaz. 🚋😄
I was born in 89-was the red train the model before the Tangara trains?
Hi EJ, Thanks for watching and for your question. A short answer, from what I read, the Tangara trains were mainly introduced between 1988 and 1994. Before that, there were trains from Comeng in 1972 and 1973, and Goninan cars in 1978 and 1986. Someone more familiar with the Sydney operation may want to add more information to this. Stay well. Cheers, tassiebaz.
Sydney trains were so much more fun in the late 80s and early 90s - although I do remember being freaked out by the open doors as a little kid of 4 or 5. Come to think of it, Sydney was better in general back then. No zombies on their phones and no anti-social media. Most importantly, no TH-cam to be a sinkhole for my time ... ... ...
Hi videodoodler, Thanks for watching and for your comment. As someone who lived through the good old days, I totally agree with your thoughts. Regards, tassiebaz.
It was cool in the day with those open doors but what if a little kid ran away from its mum and fell out the open doors, or an overcrowded train and someone fell out, and they looked so poorly maintained but I do love the red rattlers
Hi Dean, Thanks for watching and for their comment. Maybe people were more responsible in the "good old days" and didn't have their heads buried in their phones. Occasionally, I see a news article about a mother who lets her pram get away and drop off a train platform and am always amazed about how this could happen. I guess you just manage risk reduction for the times. Regards, tassiebaz.
so true tassiebaz, I did travel on these trains years ago and if the doors were open you would just hang on, you always adjust to your surroundings to stay safe.
Now you need to pay $30 for a quick ride!
Gee you’d need to be listening quickly to here your stop on those announcements!
Hi Fire YT. Agreed. I guess it helped if you knew where you were going. Cheers, tassiebaz.
I remember riding those things in the 80s early 90s, very loud and clattery, but very fun, now adays every thing is painted bright yellow, not like these brown dangerous things lol
They weren't "brown"....they were Tuscan Red. :)
@@hcrun
Nor were they dangerous, we could open doors & windows & there weren't signs everywhere telling one not to stand too close to the platform or jump off cliffs because most people had common sense lol
Bring them back
Hi Chuck Selvage, If only we could. Thanks for watching and for your wishful comment. Cheers, tassiebaz. 😁
@@tassiebaz Thanks for the upload I remember riding on these with the doors open going over Como bridge in the summer. Fun time.Cheers, Chuck.
@@chuckselvage3157 Yes, great memories from the good old days. Cheers, tassiebaz.
Life was better then
It sure was!! (except for the technology to be able to do this).
2:59 A Tangara aging fast and missing a panel.
Hi 007, Thanks for watching and for your astute observation. Cheers, tassiebaz.😁
@@tassiebaz There was one coming in the opposite direction shortly after too missing a panel. At the time it would not have been unreasonable to ask if these things are really going to last until the year 2000.😆
@@RangaTurk I guess their maintenance practices weren't that good back then. In that case, it's amazing that the red cars lasted as long as they did. 😭
I used to smoke on them. Legally that is.
Excellent slides at the end. It was great seeing all the old stations as well before their subsequent make overs. Do you know if they kept any "Rattlers" in moth balls ?
Hi John, Thanks for watching and for your kind words. I'm glad you enjoyed the presentation and appreciate you taking the time to let me know.
Regarding the current status of the rattlers, please have a look at the following websites for some information you may find interesting (there may be other websites too).
www.historyofsydney.com.au/return-of-the-red-rattler-vintage-train-returns-to-the-city-circle/
and
www.railpage.com.au:80/f-t11364439.htm
Stay well. Cheers, tassiebaz.
@@tassiebaz Thanks Baz, I will certainly look these up ! BTW are you really from Tasmania ? Or are you from Toronto ? Either way it doesn't matter. Keep up the great work ! Cheers John
@@johnlatham7092 Hi, I am really from Tasmania. No trams or trains but still a great place to live. Cheers, tassiebaz.
Very sad to see changes
Hi peter, Yes, there's nothing like the good old days that we all miss. Cheers, tassiebaz. 😁
Wish they would create/make a train very similar to the rattlers, sick of seeing the remakes or remixes of the Tangaras.
Hi footlockerjl32
, Agreed!!! Thanks for watching and for your comment. Stay well. Cheers, tassiebaz.
Bring them back please - they were more hygenic, since you could open the windows up and get fresh air from the outside, rather than re-circulated virus-infested air.
Hi Vlad, Don't we all wish they were still running. Thanks for watching and for your comment. Stay well. Cheers, tassiebaz.
Carriages packed with nearly all men wearing hats, smoking, jostling for elbow room as they tried to read the paper. Me hanging on for dear life at the open doors, half outside the train. How the light bulbs hanging from the top of the carriage would swing back and forth, flickering on and off as you entered the underground tunnels before reaching Town Hall. Then fumbling about in your wallet for the tiny cardboard weekly ticket as you walked up the crowded stairs. Really quite an ordeal, but looking back, it was the best part of my day. Mid 1970's, storeman packer in York Street.
@@stevelayton1271 Hi, It's what's known as the good old days and don't we miss them. Cheers, tassiebaz.
@@tassiebaz I forgot to mention the mad rush as you heard the whistle blow to catch up to the departing train and jump in as it reached about 15mph. Never reprimanded by guards. It was expected. Same thing as the train came into a station. The daring would alight to avoid the queue at the exit and often misjudge the speed of the train and again a minor injury was to be expected and again, the guards didn't care.
@@stevelayton1271 Hi, things were different back then. Similar to the trams in Melbourne before doors that closed. Cheers, tassiebaz.
Before Sydney became a toilet. The good old days.
Couldn’t have open doors and windows with today’s lacking generation
Hi dean Agreed!! and add to that today's safety considerations. Thanks for watching and for taking the time to comment. Stay well. Cheers, tassiebaz.