1000% their intention! Build it "high performance" enough to please most!.. & lock everyone who owns one into using their OEM replacement parts only! At this point, I would love to sit down with Mitch from M2C and some other experienced RC drivers, and literally develop a ground up design that is based on this! I would be willing to invest tens of thousands into making that happen! Not one single RC manufacturer has yet to really nail a design out of box for both RTR & Upgrades. (Not in this size/class/style RC) Edit: The front CVD Driveshafts FIT THE REAR just fine.. makes it impossible to "separate" or fall out! I also agree with the ESC Swap! I wish the MAX6 would fit! I just wish there was 1 more inch inside the chassis for modification room! M2C will hopefully address this in the future with a full line of proper option parts!
Man, the sledge does look like a great rig, but someone else said it best when they compared traxxas to "Apple", and how both are not wanting people to change out what works! I really like the looks of the sledge, and I love my other traxxas cars, but they really seam to be at their peak when left stock, or close to stock. Arrma, and others seem to like allowing people to upgrade to make their RC's stronger, faster, & durable. Great video, had a lot of good info!!!
That's exactly what I said when this first came out. It's definitely the "apple" of rc's.. The body mount, wheel hexes, battery tray, the lack of space. I'll pass
Ya not overthinking it Mr Tones.Its a Traxxas trap,they may well start selling different size bits of plastic motor mount holder thing, depending on what size pinion and spur we use.25 dollar for one.✌️
👊WAT UP BARS&TONE! Don’t worry about talking to much, we need to know what these cars are all about. I laughed when you corrected yourself with text🤣 I had a chance to buy one early, I looked at it and declined. I had a feeling there was going to be issues. But, my driving, I have to beef up every car. Great Video Brother!👍💯👊🏆
RazorRC just posted a video with a 15T pinion and, sure enough, the motor mount shifted. Wasn’t even bashing it that hard, either. You were right to keep it stock!
I do have the car and my spur ⚙️ needs changed. Glad l came across this vid👍🏼. Think you did what l would have done . There is no way that those motor mount screws would hold in my opinion . Good vid brother
Tbh I had the HPI Vorza for years, same motor mount style, and I found the easiest way to stop the motor moving was to just stick the biggest pinion I could get in there. Think in the end the 23t had like 1mm xtra of play which is obviously way too much for meshing the motor so we ended up very carefully making the mounting holes 0.? Of a mm bigger to stick a 1t bigger pinion in.
I went to a 15 tooth and it’s been good but with that being said you’re absolutely correct you got to take your time and said that mask and make sure the motor is not on an angle good stuff man keep up the good work
Hey I'm the apple and android guy, I just want to say if u got the money for it this truggy is fun , but only for non tinkering rc drivers, if I drop 800 on a rig I might keep it that way for awhile till something needs replaced or I catch a great deal on something I wanted up grade , but i but since u are honest and have actually looked now, sledge not a platform that can be easily upgraded in stock chassis, so thanks for getting ur video up, I have yet to see anyone else say the same as me besides you, yes in the future we will see, there are after market people working on a different chassis, and other bits and bobs , but this is not a hate video, to much of that already, just really wanted to say thanks I thought I was the only one speaking the facts, but I can see I was just a bit faster, there is a reason for that and why I could say for certain this is a good truggy for a certain market, but for most of us, just won't be the best choice in the long run unless someone comes out with a bigger chassis, more room in the right spots, then the market opens up to alot more people for this rc, hope Traxxas listens, agin thanks man
That's interesting that there isn't a lot of wiggle room in there being an 8th scale truggy. I wonder if they have different plastic blocks for different mesh set ups? And why would they not be in the box if they do?? I'm sure someone is gearing this truck up some where, but it does seem to have great air control right out of the box! 😉💯
I ran it the other day with the earplugs and absolutely love it and honestly I’m in the same boat I’m not really going to mess with mine very much I like it
That's why I won't buy traxxas don't get me wrong they look incredible rigs and they have done a great job with it but when a company tries to force you to only use there products and try to stop you going elsewhere that's when I stop using them same reason I won't use apple products either horizon hobby stick spektrum in all there rigs but the majority of them u still have the option to put your own electronics in them great video buddy keep doing ya thing my man really enjoy your content
Im going to get this car for 2-3 weeks testing for my channel. hope not to find too much bad things on it.. gearing replace not easy task to do yep.. in the future i bet there will be other brands motor mount upgrade… lets hope so😅😎 anyone cool car.. great stock. But for hard bashing we need to work on it.. specially the gears thing🙄💪🏻
That's crazy They actually show the different gearing for the different speeds on the box. Seems like something might be missing from your box or something. I'm about to look at it tomorrow when I get to the shop cuz I'm curious now lol
@@BarstoneRC by the way i bought my sledge and went on a very first run On a second attempt of running I used 75% of throttle and 2 front tires exploded
More power with that system, and they sell silicone earplugs, and you pack the center differential with them. It still allows some give, but distributes the power equally to the front and rear.
My thought if its that important why wouldn't traxxas make gear plastic piece metal if its important unless it gonna come out as a hop up great info though for real and esc n motor size still need one but makes me decide how soon thanks brotha
This isn’t too surprising. Apparently, the Sledge was designed in mind to minimize the need for repairs/replacements on parts. Unfortunately, in order to do that, you have to stay stock.
Wow good thing I stick with Arrma. Slide in motor mounts from arrma 6S LINE are the best. They know exactly what Thier doing. Traxxas is still learning and they are falling from the top fast.
this is one reason why many of my new cars stay in the box for a couple weeks before cracking it open. i'm wondering whether i should return it and wait for revision 2. or 3 or 4.
@@BarstoneRC yeah your vids give me hope for the OOB runs. RC Illuminati has some good stuff If you haven't run across his channel before. besides the o-rings.
Well this is a rtr. I dont think traxxas designed it to be changed and I don't blame them. I think the stock parts are fine. Other than the gearing which I think should be easier to deal with.
Ugh….why the hell would Traxxas make the motor mount to be such a problem?? Especially if someone wants to change the gearing for speed runs. I just don’t get the thinking behind the design.
Heey Bars.... i have also the sledge and on my first run it was 50 mph on 6s. I dont know what your thoughts are on that but is that not fast inough for a 6s basher? So why change gearing? Love your video's buy the way!! Greatings TRC from Holland!
Honestly it is plenty fast especially for most of the places I bash at and I’m really not at this point in a hurry to change the gearing or anything on this it’s a lot of fun the way it is.
i'd say no, right off the crack of the louisville slugger. The swaybars are optional, for starters, and the mesh setting apparatus matrix seems soooo proprietary, or is that just me? Traxxas will have branded aftermarket & proprietary upgrades, boo. Second thing, how can you find any of your tools! they're all put away! workbench too neat and clean. 😂wholly crap i just got to the diff part. Looks like they had the WLToys interns adding the diff fluid.
There whole 70 mph claim feels shady. It’s the 2nd over-gearing and the gear spacing blocks are not available yet. They just had to out do the Kraton’s claimed speed I guess…. at least Arrma provides the speed gear in the box for $200 less. Hurricane
you can put a traxxas 8s reciever in it. And you are not familiar with motor mounts like any nitro.... the motor mount is standard for any nitro I Have one and you are seeing ghots in the dark
Looks like ever time traxxas come out with new product it's getting worse and worse on the fitment now a day, Hope m2c will come out with a new chassis design that can fit other electronics or to relocate everything in this sledge, or I will not even think about buy this expensive $800 us dollar sledge, I rather get another 1/8 arrma or a tekno.
that’s just stupid i don’t think it’s a good rc people are braking it elazly and traxxas said “it’s a strong rc” 😂 it probably just needs some upgrades
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1000% their intention! Build it "high performance" enough to please most!.. & lock everyone who owns one into using their OEM replacement parts only!
At this point, I would love to sit down with Mitch from M2C and some other experienced RC drivers, and literally develop a ground up design that is based on this! I would be willing to invest tens of thousands into making that happen! Not one single RC manufacturer has yet to really nail a design out of box for both RTR & Upgrades. (Not in this size/class/style RC)
Edit: The front CVD Driveshafts FIT THE REAR just fine.. makes it impossible to "separate" or fall out!
I also agree with the ESC Swap! I wish the MAX6 would fit!
I just wish there was 1 more inch inside the chassis for modification room! M2C will hopefully address this in the future with a full line of proper option parts!
Man, the sledge does look like a great rig, but someone else said it best when they compared traxxas to "Apple", and how both are not wanting people to change out what works! I really like the looks of the sledge, and I love my other traxxas cars, but they really seam to be at their peak when left stock, or close to stock. Arrma, and others seem to like allowing people to upgrade to make their RC's stronger, faster, & durable. Great video, had a lot of good info!!!
It’s awesome in it’s stock form. I would still buy it again
That's exactly what I said when this first came out. It's definitely the "apple" of rc's.. The body mount, wheel hexes, battery tray, the lack of space. I'll pass
Ya not overthinking it Mr Tones.Its a Traxxas trap,they may well start selling different size bits of plastic motor mount holder thing, depending on what size pinion and spur we use.25 dollar for one.✌️
the front cvd's fit perfectly in the rear & will stop the dog bones coming out.
👊WAT UP BARS&TONE! Don’t worry about talking to much, we need to know what these cars are all about. I laughed when you corrected yourself with text🤣 I had a chance to buy one early, I looked at it and declined. I had a feeling there was going to be issues. But, my driving, I have to beef up every car. Great Video Brother!👍💯👊🏆
Lol if I doubt there will be a ton of comments with people calling me out of course lol
Thanks for the heads up. I have a new 1 just waiting for me at the hobby shop
Yeah they’re a great car and a lot of fun but there is some odd things about them
RazorRC just posted a video with a 15T pinion and, sure enough, the motor mount shifted. Wasn’t even bashing it that hard, either. You were right to keep it stock!
Yeah it needs that little locking block to stay straight
I do have the car and my spur ⚙️ needs changed. Glad l came across this vid👍🏼. Think you did what l would have done . There is no way that those motor mount screws would hold in my opinion . Good vid brother
Tbh I had the HPI Vorza for years, same motor mount style, and I found the easiest way to stop the motor moving was to just stick the biggest pinion I could get in there. Think in the end the 23t had like 1mm xtra of play which is obviously way too much for meshing the motor so we ended up very carefully making the mounting holes 0.? Of a mm bigger to stick a 1t bigger pinion in.
I agreed, that kinda sucks. Hopefully the aftermarket guys come up with a better mounting system. We’ll see🤞
M2C to the rescue!! Lol
I guess that stock 13/52 plastic block also works with the 18/46 gears too. I was told I have the new gears but have not tried it myself yet.
So how many extra gray hairs did the sledge give you lol. Thank you for sharing the headache sledge David 💯🔥🙈🙉🙊✌👍
I think about 20 or so lol
That motor mount reminds me of the Nitro set up and that was a pain sometimes .
Yeah I’ve heard they’re making or have plans to make more of those little plastic things that lock the motor in but they’re not out or available yet
Hopefully aluminum ones get released
Maybe they have plans to make a nitro version? Idk. Poor engine placement tho
I went to a 15 tooth and it’s been good but with that being said you’re absolutely correct you got to take your time and said that mask and make sure the motor is not on an angle good stuff man keep up the good work
Don't worry bro M2C is already working on solutions!
I seen on a video that they have another plastic piece that the motor mount locks into…also heard it can’t be found to buy.great video 💪🏻👊🏻😎
Yeah same lol
Hey I'm the apple and android guy, I just want to say if u got the money for it this truggy is fun , but only for non tinkering rc drivers, if I drop 800 on a rig I might keep it that way for awhile till something needs replaced or I catch a great deal on something I wanted up grade , but i but since u are honest and have actually looked now, sledge not a platform that can be easily upgraded in stock chassis, so thanks for getting ur video up, I have yet to see anyone else say the same as me besides you, yes in the future we will see, there are after market people working on a different chassis, and other bits and bobs , but this is not a hate video, to much of that already, just really wanted to say thanks I thought I was the only one speaking the facts, but I can see I was just a bit faster, there is a reason for that and why I could say for certain this is a good truggy for a certain market, but for most of us, just won't be the best choice in the long run unless someone comes out with a bigger chassis, more room in the right spots, then the market opens up to alot more people for this rc, hope Traxxas listens, agin thanks man
Yeah I’m leaving it the way it is for now it’s fine just the way it is.
@@BarstoneRC right on man, it is a beast in stock form no doubt about that.
Good one Bars. FYI chefbeardsly just posted a vid about diffs fitting really lose need shimmed.👍
Yeah I checked mine it wasn’t terrible but I do need some shims
That's interesting that there isn't a lot of wiggle room in there being an 8th scale truggy. I wonder if they have different plastic blocks for different mesh set ups? And why would they not be in the box if they do?? I'm sure someone is gearing this truck up some where, but it does seem to have great air control right out of the box! 😉💯
Sounds like real car manufacturers.
Lol right
Thanks for the info. I like mine the way it is.… I’ll probably do the earplug hack to the diff tho. Once again thanks for your time ..
I ran it the other day with the earplugs and absolutely love it and honestly I’m in the same boat I’m not really going to mess with mine very much I like it
Because Traxxas lol. I like my truck but def waiting for m2c to some out with something better.
It’s in progress there will be something soon from them
Lot of good pointers thanks
Not surprised, Seems very typical of Traxxas to keep you proprietary to their crap as much as possible
All their proprietary crap is exactly why I started hating Traxxas over 20 years ago. I don't even look at them today.
Yeah I get it and it is dumb but it is a really fun truck so far.
That's why I won't buy traxxas don't get me wrong they look incredible rigs and they have done a great job with it but when a company tries to force you to only use there products and try to stop you going elsewhere that's when I stop using them same reason I won't use apple products either horizon hobby stick spektrum in all there rigs but the majority of them u still have the option to put your own electronics in them great video buddy keep doing ya thing my man really enjoy your content
Fr, I can't see myself ever owning a traxxas rig. Same way I probably won't ever own an apple product.
Yeah they do strange things for sure.
Nice. One of the YT guys blew his rear diff in his Slede after two runs. He mentioned that he had too much play in his rear diff and housing? 🤔
What I’m finding interesting as it seems like not one is like all of them are slightly different lol
I’ve seen a lot of peoples motor sliding around in the Mets changing even with that little block in there so I wonder how much good doesn’t really do
Im going to get this car for 2-3 weeks testing for my channel. hope not to find too much bad things on it.. gearing replace not easy task to do yep.. in the future i bet there will be other brands motor mount upgrade… lets hope so😅😎 anyone cool car.. great stock. But for hard bashing we need to work on it.. specially the gears thing🙄💪🏻
The stock block would get in the way if you went smaller on pinion.
My team corally center dif was the same way with grease, maybe traxxas makes different blocks for different pinions.
They’re supposed to make different ones from what I found out but they’re not released yet
Nice truck and really like the body lock. But the motor mount looks like an after thought. No space either? Arma wins here.
Yeah but the good news is M2C is fixing that. They are working on a new motor mount
That's crazy They actually show the different gearing for the different speeds on the box. Seems like something might be missing from your box or something. I'm about to look at it tomorrow when I get to the shop cuz I'm curious now lol
Did you found anything?
No M2C is going to release a good motor mount for this thing and that way you can put whatever gears you want
@@BarstoneRC ahh thats wonderful news approximately when? Lol
@@BarstoneRC by the way i bought my sledge and went on a very first run
On a second attempt of running
I used 75% of throttle and 2 front tires exploded
Well we’re receiving them to test them in the next couple days so after we test them for a while and everything is good then they will be released
I just bought a sledge and I'm thinking I need to just buy and install the M2C motor mount rt out of the box
Honestly, I would
Nice video. Thank you. Question though: why did you want to put a Max 6 in it instead of a Max 8? Also, can you explain what you mean by an 'earplug'?
More power with that system, and they sell silicone earplugs, and you pack the center differential with them. It still allows some give, but distributes the power equally to the front and rear.
What ive seen on the tube...seems like guys pull the center diff before they change gears
Have you considered a Tekin electronics setup? I know a few of their ESCs have a smaller footprint.
I have the Tekin RX8 in my Tekno ET48
My thought if its that important why wouldn't traxxas make gear plastic piece metal if its important unless it gonna come out as a hop up great info though for real and esc n motor size still need one but makes me decide how soon thanks brotha
Yeah you would think it would be made out of metal but it’s definitely important in keeping the motor straight and not twisting.
Interesting….. the manual indicates you can change the gearing and set the mesh manually. 🤔
Yeah you can if ya remove the plastic peace. And hope and pray the motor don’t twist lol
Wish I would've known this before purchase 🤷🏾♂️
There’s lots of modifications and upgrades for now
@@BarstoneRC I will look into that. tired of doing 50 mile an hour speed runs 😂
This isn’t too surprising. Apparently, the Sledge was designed in mind to minimize the need for repairs/replacements on parts. Unfortunately, in order to do that, you have to stay stock.
Wow good thing I stick with Arrma. Slide in motor mounts from arrma 6S LINE are the best. They know exactly what Thier doing. Traxxas is still learning and they are falling from the top fast.
M2C will fix this.
@@BarstoneRC of course they will. But they shouldn't have to fix it. Traxxas should of made it alot easier to change gears and motors. 👊👍
@@paulrakis arrma motors slap the chassis and break. not really perfect ether.
@@ruger5044 yes that's definitely true. Nothing is perfect but we can just make it better. 👊
Give it some time after company will come out with esc motor that will fit
M2C is now
this is one reason why many of my new cars stay in the box for a couple weeks before cracking it open. i'm wondering whether i should return it and wait for revision 2. or 3 or 4.
It’s a really fun car even in its stock form. Really love mine
@@BarstoneRC yeah your vids give me hope for the OOB runs. RC Illuminati has some good stuff If you haven't run across his channel before. besides the o-rings.
Well this is a rtr. I dont think traxxas designed it to be changed and I don't blame them. I think the stock parts are fine. Other than the gearing which I think should be easier to deal with.
Yeah and honestly I don’t even hate the gearing on it for what it is and how it runs I’m happy with it
I think I bought my new sledge to quick should have waited for sledge 2
Yeah I got the first release also but it will get figured out.
Good info
Another win for the kraton lol
Ugh….why the hell would Traxxas make the motor mount to be such a problem?? Especially if someone wants to change the gearing for speed runs. I just don’t get the thinking behind the design.
Yeah I don’t know why they made it this way not a big fan of that part
Can you fit a Arrma 6s motor mount and center diff on it 😁
Maybe?
Heey Bars.... i have also the sledge and on my first run it was 50 mph on 6s. I dont know what your thoughts are on that but is that not fast inough for a 6s basher?
So why change gearing?
Love your video's buy the way!!
Greatings TRC from Holland!
Honestly it is plenty fast especially for most of the places I bash at and I’m really not at this point in a hurry to change the gearing or anything on this it’s a lot of fun the way it is.
have you thought about max 8 that ESC is better than the stock one?
Yeah I was actually thinking about that it may be trying that?
Do you know what size screws you used for the droop ?
I’m not home at the moment and I don’t know the size off the top of my head, I’m in Texas right now for work.
I've already seen a few ma6 in these so its very possible
Yeah after some measurements you can turn them in their sideways but information has been coming out daily.
i'd say no, right off the crack of the louisville slugger. The swaybars are optional, for starters, and the mesh setting apparatus matrix seems soooo proprietary, or is that just me? Traxxas will have branded aftermarket & proprietary upgrades, boo. Second thing, how can you find any of your tools! they're all put away! workbench too neat and clean. 😂wholly crap i just got to the diff part. Looks like they had the WLToys interns adding the diff fluid.
M2C is going to make this thing great. Just wait. Lol
@@BarstoneRC for real! Mitch and fam will find the room to make stuff fit! or make the room.
@@BarstoneRC Why would M2C or any company what to make anything related to Traxxas with the way they are so sue happy .
You'll void the warranty if you add a non-Traxxas sticker on the body.
Hahahahaha truth!
Why would I need to change gearing, I’m asking?
You Garrett up to make it faster and more air control
@@BarstoneRC okay. I’m headed to the hobby shop in a couple hours to get a sledge!! I think I’m going to leave it stock.
There are a lot of fun stock. One thing I do suggest is asking them about an aftermarket front bumper for it because Car really needs a front bumper.
@@BarstoneRC Okay, will do. I did get one today (orange) but I’m going back tomorrow so I’ll ask.
RPM or garage life Rc.
M2C motor mount
Staying an Arrma fan for life lol ;)
There whole 70 mph claim feels shady. It’s the 2nd over-gearing and the gear spacing blocks are not available yet. They just had to out do the Kraton’s claimed speed I guess…. at least Arrma provides the speed gear in the box for $200 less.
Hurricane
Yeah I just wonder when these blocks are going to be available? Kind of stupid they didn’t include them in the package
Strange .... that thingy.... and yes indeed .. not much room ... to bad ....
I believe it keeps the motor straight and true.
@@BarstoneRC just got mine, so i am checking everything now .. put a silicon plug in the center diff to prevent the front tires ballooning so much
Duah, Trax Garb.....Come on MAN....
Lol you’re on a mission tonight
you can put a traxxas 8s reciever in it. And you are not familiar with motor mounts like any nitro.... the motor mount is standard for any nitro
I Have one and you are seeing ghots in the dark
Yeah I ordered a Hobbywing ESC for this thing and that motor set up probably works great on a nitro but electric not so much.
Looks like ever time traxxas come out with new product it's getting worse and worse on the fitment now a day, Hope m2c will come out with a new chassis design that can fit other electronics or to relocate everything in this sledge, or I will not even think about buy this expensive $800 us dollar sledge, I rather get another 1/8 arrma or a tekno.
They have one in hand and working on fixing the strange things about this car.
Not true you can perform many upgrades
Well yeah now we know and this video was made when the first run was released now there is tons of upgrades
just like meshing the gearing on a nitro motor, not really hard at all.
When you think Traxxas got s*** right they do something stupid like that
M2C will be fixing this lol
So basically your telling me this $800 Traxxa$$ Sledge is NOT hobby grade😂🤣
I will stick to my Arrma's and Xmaxx/Maxx then 😳🤣😂😱
Oh it’s hobby grade it just needs some M2C love. Lol
Its just Kraton copy with a made in america greed tax added to it.
It FAR from a Kraton they built there own thing here.
Traxxas ploy sell more parts and gears
Yeah brother check out chef Beardsley way more disappointment on his channel breaking teeth and bad customer service
that’s just stupid i don’t think it’s a good rc people are braking it elazly and traxxas said “it’s a strong rc” 😂 it probably just needs some upgrades
M2C will fix this thing up.
@@BarstoneRC oh i bet hahaha
💩💩
Yeah I had to back out of buying it because of that
I think I am on the fence after hearing this!!
@@jonk967 I have no problem with traxxas I have a problem with liking to mod my Rc cars