Olympian Wave 6 Heater Review E411
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I have a Wave 6 also and really like it. Good review and I've found your review to be totally accurate.
Propane is C3H8 so when mixed with O2 in the catalytic cloth you get 3 CO2, 4 H2O if perfect conversion happens with heat as a byproduct. The Hydrogen oxygen bond is stronger then the carbon oxygen bond so if less then normal air is given you get CO rather then CO2.
This is the same reaction that happens in a catalytic converter in a car where it is breaking up any remaining hydrocarbons that make it past the engine into CO2 and water but normally takes a few minutes to warm up enough to start the reaction.
wow thanks for the chemistry lesson!
So does this still put a lot of moisture in the air like a typical propane burning heater, or does this reaction decrease the moisture in the air?
@@thegooniverse495 pound for pound- it's chemistry.
Excellent review. We are seriously looking at getting one.
thx. I really like it :D
So it makes you feel all warm and fuzzy without actually being fuzzy. Great review.
ha! yes, exactly!
I had two in my Toyhauler ,one in the garage one in the living area. The Furnace only ran periodically to circulate air. And this in a Hunting Camp while it was 20 below outdoors.
Seven, I spent 37 years in the Natural Gas industry. I have reservations about using a non vented appliance inside a closed space. PLEASE always make sure you have a window/door cracked for combustion air and venting. Just remember that propane is heaver that Natural Gas, and don't hold you head above that heater when lighting. Remember head down and away from the appliance.
I always have venting for my heater (far more than recommended). note: I normally have my head away from the unit when lighting but was trying to keep my head in the video frame for the review
Oh my god thank you for the dust warning, I was about to buy this for my mini greenhouse here in windy sandy dusty new Mexico. NOT SO MUCH!
Good info on this product, thank you!
That was really good. Thank you.
I own one in a Small Class C we love it as well, best thing we added along with our heated wood floors.
mine is on right now... toasty warm!
My Wave 3 arrived today. I haven't fired it up yet but from your review and others, I think I made a good choice to keep my van warm this winter here in Nebraska. I will have it ready to move into by Thanksgiving.
How is it working so far?? I live in Michigan and my wave 3 isn't hot enough for my van.
How is it working so far? I live in michigan, and my wave 3 isn't working that great.
@@sandyhobo2053 I've only used it a couple of times. It kept the van warm enough but it puts out a lot of moisture. Had to dry the windows with a towel. I've had access to an electrical hook up and a space heater and thst works great. Will have to try the Wave 3 more before I have a real opinion on it.
I have owned both the 6 & 8 in my Toyhauler. The Wave 6 in the living area & Wave 8 in the Garage area. In conjunction with my furnace in 20 deg. below zero weather. I was able to maintain 68 deg. Inside temp in my 38’ unit no trouble whatsoever. I use 100 lb. propane tank in Hunting Camp here in Montana. The furnace rarely ran during the day and ran only periodically at night to keep it warm. If you decide to install these please consider hard piped copper lines as I did.
other than being slow to heat my rig, I really like the wave 6 I have
Whooops!! That's an eyebrow burner isn't it? I have a lantern that does the very same whosh when it's lit. My wife hates it 'cause it startles her every time heh, heh. I'm glad to hear that you've been enjoyin' that unit and gettin' good service from it as well. Real world reviews are the ones I trust the most so thank you for that and it's very cool that you spoke about the fuel consumption as well. Very useful information indeed and now I'll pass it on to my son, he's been talking about wanting a heater for camping. Keep on keepin' on! .................................PEACE!!
hopefully it helps those trying to decide on buying one
I am looking into this heater. Thanks for the info. You are the first to show the heater flaming on starting. I am guessing that other reviews skip that.
I thought it best to show in real time how it works
The flash is really not concerning at all.
The darker the room the more you would see the flash. It is just the unspent propane igniting. After the pad is activated you should not experience it again. Once it flashes, you can release the pilot start control
Great review I will be purchasing one as my next heater my Buddy is working fine. as a side note... i have not had a fire yet...
I disconnect/reconnect my heater every time I cook with my camp chef oven guess it is time to buy a splitter and another hose
I use a Y splitter on mine
You could use your temp gun to monitor your heater performance as well...
Use the sensor to establish normal heating temps. What gets how hot etc.
fantastic idea for that!
Seven...really appreciate this review. Bob Wells gave a review on this heater...he recommends it also. More good reviews the more confidence we can have in the product. Thank you Seven.....LOL Judie
part of my decision to buy mine was based on Bob's video
Good review
So glad to see this review 👍I have been wondering how your new heater was working out. Seems like you made a smart purchase. I think the price sounds fair being that it is a higher quality product than the Buddy heater. Its also great that it appears to take up less space than the Buddy heater. Happy and safe travels to ya :)
I think the overall space is less (it is wider and taller, but thinner and the wall mount is wonderful)
Solid review. Thanks for doing it and thanks for the honesty. I will add this to my virtual checklist for my build. I also wanted to recommend an awesome "all day" tea for you. Ahmad Tea's Cardamon. They have it in loose leaf or your standard bag. It's my current obsession--it does have caffeine but I find that I can drink it all day.
thx for the tea recommendation. I'll have to check that one out!
Thankyou great job
I don't know what you mean by gallons. When we talk propane it's in pounds. What is the consumption at the low setting pounds per hour?
Propane is 4.24 pounds per gallon
Ive been using a big buddy in my gas fireplace in my living room for around 7 years, i replaced the gas logs which were very inefficient, the buddy is very efficient, i clean it before every season to make sure no dust or dirt in it
My wave 3 isn't keeping me warm in my van at all. But I live in Michigan. Wish I would of got a wave 6.
I had one of these heaters back when is was in my 20s I put it in a small house I built and it worked great and the propane lasted a long time. It stopped working after 2 years did not no why now I no it was because I did not cover it.
very cool. I don't know that I understand exactly how it works but that's alright. I'd like to think the air would also be warm though, laying in bed breathing in freezing cold air but having warm skin sounds weird haha I am very done with my big buddie heater, had a leak just like you did and now on my last trip I noticed the gas was still coming out for several seconds after I turned the unit off....maybe something to do with being hooked up to a bigger tank/greater pressure in the tank because of being very high altitude or whatever but yeah, I am not comfortable with it, makes me feel paranoid to relax in case I fall asleep with it on and something happens.
wave heater might be a good solution for you!
Would love to see how you attached your propane and where you tank is...?
Me too!
might be cool to face it onto a thermal mass wall. im guessing it has a thermostat..so when the wall becomes of equal or more thermal, it will kick off and save the wave from always having to be on...think that might work? thx for the video, glad your feelin safer, cheers!
No thermostat. Low n hi I believe
@@SleepyJoeisSlow thx man, cheers
Note that it is easy to assume you could gently vacuum the fabric mat of your heater. DO NOT DO IT! You will ruin it completely. Water will also immediately ruin it.
I was interested in horiztonal mounting. Clearances change. How? I'm guessing. side being top now needs 16 in. Bottom (side in vert mount) is cool for less then 4 in?
whats your square footage and type of attachments are involved with the hoses? what do you use? i want to buy one of these but other things to the hose i would need help. hose length, regulaters, filters i don't anything about this stuff thank for your video and time david
Hello,if i just open the maxxair lid without kick in the fan on,will the amount of fresh air for ventilation will be enough to keep me safe over night?Thanks
It's nice to get video from inside the van, but it is SO dark in there! Didn't you plan to put in a skylight or 2? We are not able to see much detail and I for one would like to. Thanks 7.
I filmed this at sunset so you could see the glow of the heater. I do plan to add skylights
Nice video review . I would just add , or comment. Fifth yr using wave 6. I'm not sure how anybody would cover it. Un cover back and forth. I hope i don't kill it , but , once again 5 + yrs , not a problem.
Also. Wave 6 on low runs 24/7 for 6 days. On a standard 5gal BBQ TANK. 144 HOURS.
By mounting the heater sideways, you have your hand above the heater when you start it up. That makes the flash a bit more scary than if your hands were both below the heater.
great point
How about turning on some lights so people can see what you're doing??
???? @6:00 + you had written that it has "MUCH Lower" CONDENSATION! then the Mr. Heater/Buddy...? I had been told is it has little to none, but HOW MUCH IS LOWER??? NONE, Some, or have no idea because I vent my place well and I chase 69*.. LOL
THANKS, and stay safe!
I know this doesnt fix your speedo problem, but I use a speedometer app by cool nics and it works really well.
the speedometer apps are awesome, but as I understand them, they require the under the dash dongle thing to plug into. my step van is 100% analog with no computer or chips in it (no sensors) so you can't hookup a digital app to the step van
You don't have to do anything, its an app on your phone or tablet.
Hope Its good on fuel. Ever considered fitting a small wood burner as the Van looks big enough & they're not too expensive.
wood stove is in the plans (I mention it in several previous videos)
Ah right I haven't seen all of your videos.
Nice, thanks, next time more light.
Thank you for sharing. Oh yeah, make sure you have some open windows.
It works the same way as the mister heater it's a catalytic heater
Do you keep the propane tank outside or inside your van? We have been using the Wave 6 in our airstream trailer for a few months (with the propane tank outside) but now that the temperatures are getting into the single digits in West Virginia the heater will randomly shut off because it doesn't get enough propane flow. I know that keeping the propane tank inside would help with this issue but I feel safer keeping it outside. Has anyone else experienced this issue?
Thanks for this post. I have kept a 20 lb. tank outside and tried to run my Buddy heater off it but it refused to continue running after starting up. It runs fine on the 1 lb. tanks. I didn't think about the temperature at the tank being too low. It has gotten down to 26 degrees F. these last few nights. I don't feel comfortable with it inside the RV either. Would love to hear a professional opinion on that.
Do you ever have issues with the 6 making too much heat? I have a 7x14’ utility trailer camper with insulated walls and am wondering if I should get the 6 or the 3
I started using mine the last few days of winter last year with zero insulation in my rig, this winter I've just started using it and now have partial insulation. I can run it at lowest setting and rig will be comfortable temps overnight at 35-40 degree outside. I have 7x18 space. I'd say you could go with a wave 3 and use it on higher setting, or wave 6 on low setting for those temps. if your area is colder, you may want wave 6 for extra heat as it gets colder
@@SevenWanderstheWorld Always better to have more than you need than not enough.
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How much did yours cost.
What tank size?
I'm glad it's working for you. However I'm concerned about mold. My opinion is a hot air diesel heater.
diesel is much better... but the Wave 6 is a very dry heater (much better than most flame propane heaters) producing almost no water (see the comment below from another viewer who explains the science). also in the west where I am, mold really isn't common due to the dry climate
Please understand the Wave is 99.8 or .9% efficient. No venting needed and it does need a tiny bit of air to stay safe. You’ll find very few vehicles are tight enough to be concerned.
I've have never had mine flash like that.....thankfully.
interesting... I did read in the manual the flash is common
Mine 2 units always does the flash .
@@macclark4112 mine never flashes eather
I own the wave 8 in My toy hauler ,,wave 6 in a small 1973' 8 ' sleeper sits on My 1 ton truck, everyday at work, comfy cozy,,? VERY Safe warm and works great....!!! I get to Snooze at lunch time watching TV over the Air ,, in single digits ...., Ha
my wave 6 is doing well this winter, but I'm thinking of relocating it closer to the floor
Do you have a carbon monoxide detector?
yes I do!
So it don't get dust in it while running?
I keep it covered when not in use. when running I don't know if it would burn dust or repel it... actually a great question!)
Do you get condensation like the buddy heater puts out?
almost no condensation (see another comment below where the chemistry is explained)
Is that Mat replaceable?
great question. I actually have no idea and would have to research that at some point in the future
yes send it back and the company will rebuild it for you
Allot of people have had problems with Mr. Buddy heaters
my problem was with the hose connection, not the buddy heater (although I'm not a fan of the big flame)
I would add a propane detector and a CO detector to your rig for safety and peace of mind.
I did buy the detectors shortly after this video was shot
Have you ever thought about adding a thermostat to the wave heater such as in this video with a buddy heater? th-cam.com/video/IyY9Ym4-UjE/w-d-xo.html
The video is so dark I really can't see much
When are you going to break out your brightly colored Hawaiian shirts?
I downsized a few years ago and donated all the colored shirts. now I only have black t-shirts
Hey ya need some better lighting for your videos friend.
Thanks for the tip
Too dark... almost can see, but not really.
I would be careful sleeping with it on.
if you feel it necessary, then you should follow your gut feeling. I feel safe this one, but not the buddy
Dude.. if he dies, he dies in his sleep.. Isn't that the way we all want to go?
Kenneth Lowry
You can leave a single burner on all night for heat ,this is a waste of gas and money
appreciate the comment and suggestion. for me personally, I think I'd be afraid to sleep with the flame lit on the stove... the Wave6 doesn't have a flame and I believe it burns less propane (could be wrong on that)
These are not like a furnace that has to turn on and off. It runs all the time but at a lower BTU. The issue with Buddy is it is too hot and you have to shut off. The Wave 3 would be the perfect size for a 20 ft van.
@@dougboczulak5896 The wave 3 wouldn't keep the inside of my eight foot camper above freezing when it was ten degrees outside !
Forgot Something important, Ventilation!!!!!!!!
I did write about ventilation in the bottom of the video screen
Some wave 6 models come with O2 sensor and will auto shut off if the levels are too low!
My only criticism here is I remember when you had the "Buddy Heater" episode happen to you and your still giving a negative review to a very good product, and it wasn't the products fault that you had the issue, it was solely your fault, you caused the problem by not having a required propane "Regulator" inline, a "Regulator" that is even pointed out in the instructions of the "Buddy Heater System" that reads it requires a inline "Regulator" for any tanks larger then those little camp stove style tanks, please stop bad mouthing a good product that has a perfectly fine safety record due to your improper use of said product, everything you even mentioned in this video you omitted the fact that now you have a regulator inline, if this was the issue of the product I'd be perfectly fine with your statements, but being an avid tent camper and having used a "Buddy Heater" not only in a tent but also in a 10x10 outdoor shed and never once having any issues over 3 years with that product your misleading people into thinking your screw up was the products fault and that's just not fair towards the company.
YOU failed to read the instructions and or understand the instructions, YOU didn't use the product correctly or safely, YOU failed not the product and in doing so YOU put other peoples lives in jeopardy, ultimately if that fire had gotten to the large propane tank that YOU had installed under the counter and not to mention had a camping stove also connected to without the proper "Regulator" inline, YOU put others around yourself in the direct line of your incompetence.
No I don't work for the company, my major issue with this is anyone giving a bad word of mouth advertising stance when they themselves were misusing a perfectly good and safe product, this is how you destroy companies, and in this situation it was YOU too blame and not the company.
No I'm not trying to troll this is just something that really burns my backside when a product being misused has clear instructions and the individual either ignores those warnings in those instructions, doesn't read the instructions, or doesn't understand the instructions, and in turn wants to place the blame on the product verses their own ignorance, once again.................The Instructions that came with the "Buddy Heater" clearly states on page 3: " NOTE: THIS HEATER MAY BE OPERATED WITH (1) OR
(2) DISPOSABLE 1 LB. PROPANE CYLINDERS OR WITH
A REMOTE REFILLABLE CYLINDER(S) MAX. 20 LBS
USING (1) OR (2) F273701, F273702 OR F272702 HOSE
ASSEMBLIES WITH FUEL FILTERS (F273699) (Fig. A) ON
EACH HOSE ASSEMBLY. HOSE NO. F273704 BUDDY
SERIES HOSE, FUEL FILTER NOT REQUIRED. IT MAY
ALSO BE OPERATED WITH (1) F271802 HOSE ASSEMBLY
CONNECTED TO A REGULATED (11” W.C.) PROPANE
SOURCE OR (1) F271803 HOSE ASSEMBLY WITH 11”
REGULATOR WITH ACME NUT"
" www.campingworld.com/images/includes/productSpecs/SKU%2034073%20Manual.pdf "
YOU caused the problem, not the product.
I believe I explained it was not the Buddy heater failure but rather the hose failure in this video (but a bit less length given this is a video about the Wave 6). I also created a sticky note in the prior video explaining this
Yes right at the beginning you say: "Massive, Crazy failure with my Buddy Heater, actually the connection point, I shouldn't blame the Buddy Heater, but where the hose connects the Buddy Heater caught on fire", at that point is a O-ring that failed, the O-ring that failed was due to YOU not using a Regulator, I know those Buddy Heaters inside and out, if you listen to what your saying even though your trying to make the point that you didn't believe it was the Buddy Heaters fault you never admit to the fact that YOU caused the issue that you ultimately had with the product, it just seems a little deceptive IMHO, if the roles were reversed I'd admit to my own person short comings and say something around the way of "While I was using the Heater I had what could have been a major fault and upon further research I realized I made a massive mistake by not reading and or understanding the instructions about using a Pressure Regulator in the line feeding the Heater and that was the cause of the issue." ie my own misuse of the product caused all the problems, you've never admitted this in any of the videos it's always been the Buddy Heater and or the hose connection which still somewhat alleviates yourself from any wrong doing in the situation, it's just how it's being presented that's all I'm commenting about.
I understand no one likes to admit or own up too their own mistakes, it's human nature we all have a tendency to do this.
But as far as the Buddy Heater system goes it is 100% safe to use when used correctly and the instructions are followed, Camping World should have pointed your mistake out to you about the non-use of a Regulator, but of course they aren't going too or maybe they did, I can't honestly say one way or the other, I'd assume they didn't because here you are standing in front of them blindly wanting to waste more money with them, they are a retail company after all so, sales.
And no I'm not knocking the "Wave 6" heater, I've never used one, I've only seen them online maybe I've walked by them in stores, but because I've always had a Buddy Heater and I've turned all my tent camping friends onto the Buddy Heaters, I've really never had a reason to look at anything else, and as I've stated I've used the smallest Buddy Heater made to heat a 10x10 garden shed with a 20lb. propane tank attached and using a Regulator with absolutely zero problems for well over 3 years and once I was ready to move up to another Buddy Heater, I replaced the simple O-ring which takes all of 30 seconds to do, tested for leaks and gave the old one to a friend and they continued to use it since with zero problems.
All I can say is YOU made mistakes not the Buddy Heater and if YOU didn't put a Regulator on the Wave 6 or that camping stove, YOU would have had another failure that could've been worse then the first failure, my concern is what damage you may have caused to that camping stove, have you even bothered to test the connections and the tubing on the stove itself with soapy water to insure that no damage had occurred during the time you were not using a required Regulator, you didn't only put yourself at risk, you put everyone around you at risk and still have not admitted YOUR misuse was the ONLY cause to the heaters failure, that's all I'm saying, giving a black eye to a company over YOUR mistake kind of infuriates me, I know how word of mouth can hurt a business, and really, no one wants to be blamed for someone else's screw ups, it was never the Buddy Heaters fault the fault came from misuse, that's the point your not making for whatever reason.
Edit:
Just to let you know, I did see the other video, I even made very similar comments on that video and you responded, I find what your doing fascinating as it's something I myself am wanting to do once freed from the world I'm involved in at the moment which is, I'm my Mothers care giver, I've owned businesses in the past and the longer I've been around the less crap I seem to be carrying around with myself because I keep downsizing my life to be able to move around faster and freer, I'm not looking into step vans and mainly it's because of some of the pitfalls you've had but a small class C camper, I have a couple in mind that would be ideal, but I'm hoping that will be some time away still because for my mother it's either me or the nursing home and she doesn't want the nursing home, hence why I'm living in the world as I am for the time.
P.S.
As for your squeaking situation, using a inferred thermometer on a brake caliper is only useful if you had a major heat difference as the brakes will tend to be warmer or cooler depending on load situations and what side the load is on, if it's driving you that crazy you need to find someone in a shop or even a home gamer that has something called a "Chassis Ear" they aren't cheap and most probably won't have one but some do and with that device it has probes or listening cups that can be placed around the offending area then run to a switch block so the person can isolate exactly where the noise is coming from, I know if you search on TH-cam you'll find a video on those "Chassis Ears" and see what I'm referring too.
I almost want to give a standing ovation; These are some of the longest sentences I've ever seen in my life! 😱
@@Pinkenstein I think someone needs to wrap up their Mr. Buddy in a blanket and get a room ;)