I did Jiu Jitsu and Muay Thai before I did Wing Chun and this is why I changed
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You are open. You will knock out in real fight.
Isnt calling your channel "smarterfighter" ironic af, because its not smart nor is it effective at fighting. Oh and btw, instead of just claiming you did Muay Thai and bjj/jj actually do them because its painfully obvious youve never went to a single session a day in your life. Stop making a fool of yourself
@busyrightnow7259he never changed in the first place, look at his kick and check, plus he claims that in Muay Thai you attack/defend then get back to where you were but in wank cuck you get into the pocket and he quit muay thai because it doesn't do that... over 50% of muay thai is in pocket fighting and stepping in, and all true martial arts are about trying to get the advantage over your opponents and beat them more than they can beat you. So this man is full of shit, ill bet money that i can train someone in just boxing for a year and theyd be able to easily beat this man, an i have zero ability to teach.
Well said ... Thai believes that are in a position of advantage far away whereas wing Chun jkd and boxing believe they are in a position of advantage in critical range close in with no reactionary gap to defend.
Thai understands some good points like it's hard to get out of their neck clinch versus back away with wing Chun advancing ...
But Muay Thai also drastically how to kick making it about power and knockout fights when they should be more worried about people catching the kick than anything or countering it.
You are right.
Makes perfect sense. Thats why there are so many wing chun MMA champions.
Underrated asl comment 💀😭
Anderson Silva and Tony Ferguson used it. It has its redeeming qualities.
Pure wing chun isn't affective. But to incorporate wing chuns defensive benefits and quick striking prowess into your fighting style is 💯 beneficial
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Say you didnt watch the whole video without saying you didnt watch the whole video
Dude missed the muay thai class on closing distance before quitting
Glad about that because i want to train it for self defense. Is it good for that?
@@Jack32421Depends on what your goal is, but you'll definitely learn about distancing and getting out of danger. Because at the end of the day I wouldn't advise anyone to get into a fight.
Muay Thai, boxing, wrestling and BJJ are some of the most effective ones because they incorporate sparring, which is an amazing way to learn more.
But it short, yes, Muay Thai is a good self-defense sport to learn and you can always combine it with something else like wrestling.
Personally I train in Muay Thai and boxing, but definitely want to learn BJJ one day if I find a way to incorporate it. Or perhaps take some MMA classes in my gym :p
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That's what I was thinking.
That's what I was thinking.
Tell me that you never did muay thai or Jiu-jitsu without telling me!
His saying Muay Thai was just covering cracked me up. Odd statement about an art that is utterly loaded with counter strikes.
@@numskulltheory7133I'm pretty sure the real issue is the fact that Muay Thai is made for the ring. What he was doing was setting after his kicks, the way you might within a ring fight, rather than in practical use. He wouldn't have this problem if he was referencing Muay Boran for instance.
Muay Thai and Wing Chun are technically pretty similar to each other. Muay Thai is an altered version of martial arts made for the sports ring, more than its more practical mother style, but many of the techniques are basically the same.
Muay Thai (Muay Boran), Silat, Kali, Shotokan karate, Kenjitsu, and Wing Chun are basically all the same. Same tree, different branches. So... Yeah, I'm not sure why people are giving him so much crap over this. He's expanding his knowledge and learning. 🤷
That's kind of what I was thinking. When I did MT we were definitely taught to use kicks, etc., to close distance and get in for a clinch, elbows, what-have-you.
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I was taught to close distance just like this in Muay Thai. You don’t have to go back after a kick . I was taught to put pressure and move forward with strikes.
Any martial art worth its weight in gold does this. He prefers wing chun that is all.
Bro did one Muay Thai class and decided Wing Chun is for him
Lmao probably fr, because you do take those openings in Muay Thai as well, so this is misleading.
Exactly
Any aggressive fighter does just this, steps down rather than back after kicking, especially in Muay Thai... This guy man. Probably had one sparring session, got fucked up and decided he would rather an art where he doesn't have to spar.
Looooool
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Possibly never learned of combinations.
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Bro is lame to even consider Wing chun above Muay Thai.
My guy basically explained how to set up a combination to get into pocket and pretended to have discovered some new shit
And made out like it's not done in muay thai. It's literally the basis of any stand up.
Actually he never claimed to have discover anything. Iss just explaining something.
@@mauricematla8379he’s explaining that he’s dumb. He again literally explained countering and taking angles to enter the pocket as if it doesn’t exist in Muay Thai and said he stopped doing it and started wing chun
Yeah I dont believe this guy did muay thai and jiu-jitsu, then transitioned to wing chun. He was always a wing cun guy.
You don't beat the game on expert then go back to beginner.
@@chefxhyrule242 Were did he say in MT is does not exist ?
I'm a Wing Chin instructor under Ip Chun, and a Must Thai coach. I love Wing Chun BUT you need to know Muay Thai will 95% of the time go through Wing Chun like a hot knife through butter.
...Um... Muay Thai (Muay Boran), Silat, Kali, Shotokan karate, Kenjitsu, and Wing Chun are basically all the same. Same tree, different branches. As a Wing Chun instructor and/or Muay Thai coach, I would hope that you would start recognizing the similarities in many of the techniques and such. If you haven't already, you should look into it.
That's right and easy to mix it up, because it's from the same tree. 8 weapons.
You are the only chunner who makes any sense
then you must be bad teach to think that to install no confidence in your students
more like 195% of the time 😄
Dude went from steak to gas station sub sandwich
Gas station sushi….
Position of adsandwhich
"Everybody wants to get in the position of advantage until they get punched in the face"
Mui-ke Thai-son
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@@tannergahring1716 that's what I thought 😞
Hahahahahahha wtf why is this so underrated
Oh man that's a champ right there! 😂
Clever word play!
Bro did muay thai for one training session
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Totally. 😂
Judging by the technic of his low kick he just walked close to Muay Thai gym.
A coconut fell on his head when he about to go home from Thailand & forgot all his Muay Thai
Lol
Let's be real, you either got your ass handed to you or you didn't do enough classes to actually realise why Muay Thai and Jiu Jitsu are far more practical for self defense than wing chun
No one even today still doesn’t understand what Bruce Lee said. It isn’t the style, it is about using what is useful and incorporated it into your fighting style and make it your style. Every fighting styles have pros and cons.
Everyone understands that. This guy is trying to sell himself and his system
Bro just casually forgot about knees, elbows, and the clinch.
I dont think he forgot about what you mentioned.
But what he said is also true, in combat sport if you really think about it, it's about taking turns, you hit me, I hit you, but I might counter but everytime they kick most fighters reset back at the distance waiting for the next strike.
Because they've got atleast 2 rounds left to go they need to conserve energy if they're dragging the fight out.
Clinch rarely happens after a kick. Even if you watch baukaw, superlek and sanache, they usually clinch after a strike or after a counter.
@@hybridsouls Maybe I should have explained it better. He explicitly said that Muay Thai is more about attacking and defending from a distance.
Muay Thai particularly emphasizes the clinch, getting in, throwing knees and elbows inside the clinch, and throwing opponents from the clinch. So to say that Muay Thai is only about fighting outside the pocket is to ignore nearly 50% of the Muay Thai arsenal.
As for fighters taking turns, it depends on the fighter and their style. There’s counter-strikers, pressure fighters, in and out fighters etc… It’s never as simple as I hit you then you hit me.
Every competent fighter will feint, jab, kick, etc… to put themselves into an advantageous position(as he mentioned) and attempt to keep themselves there. The problem is, no opponent will simply stay in that disadvantageous position, they’ll move out the pocket or clinch.
That’s why it seems like they’re taking turns. Fighters will fight for the advantageous positions and throw their combinations from there in an attempt to damage their opponents, then they will lose that advantageous position as their opponent responds. If their opponent doesn’t respond, then they’ll either be knocked out, or have to shell up and simply defend until the other fighter tires out.
@@hybridsoulsstill he didn’t make sense saying Mauy thai you block like this then wing Chun you attack like this. Examples are different Mauy thai uses combos the same way wing Chun does even back fist like senchai
@acow1385 you could not have said it better. Thank you
Darn it you beat me to it. Love guys that step in. Opens them up to a world of hurt. There is no way you want to get to close in on a Nak Muay like this without getting a beauty sleep....😂😂
If only other combat sports knew how to counter attack their opponents
Luckily Wing Chun had him covered! ; )
It's an ancient Chinese secret.
What this guy described in the video is one of the most basic ideas in all martial arts he is falsely claiming that other sports like bbj and Muay Thai don't use it as a way to make the fighting style he likes seem more impressive than it is to the average person who hasn't don't martial arts before
Keep talking smart but he's right. Tells me you haven't watched a lot of man fights
if only muay thai had a tool to close the distance and grab the opponent...
"How to do your opponent a favor"
Put a Wing Chun user in a ring, he will start kickboxing. Said it all :))
Um... Muay Thai (Muay Boran), Silat, Kali, Shotokan karate, Kenjitsu, and Wing Chun are basically all the same. Same tree, different branches.
So ... Yeah.... If you put a Wing Chun user in the ring, it really depends more on the person themselves and their knowledge/ability, rather than the "style" of their training/fighting.
@@tygon13 The only things that these martial arts you listed above have in common is that they have punches, kicks and maybe some similar techniques but they're definitely very different from eachother
@@pipicaca9125 🤦.... Maybe you should learn a little about them and about their lineages. 🤷
@@tygon13 Ik a lot about them and their differences
@@pipicaca9125 Some fundamental basics that are similar are indeed like… the basic strikes of like... Muay Thai... The Jab, reverse, uppercut (or upper elbow), the cross (or cross elbows). There’s the basic guard position that is dramatically similar to the basic guard position of all of these styles etc etc … but, those are the fundamentals of the previously listed styles as well.
This is what happens when we play the telephone game though... And when we play the telephone game over both generations and through migration. Same tree, different branches. It's not a matter of closeness, it's a matter of... they're literally the exact same, just different emphasis placed on different things, that eventually morphed into different training regiments, as teachers and students passed the knowledge down.
For instance are you familiar with hubud...? It's a basic flow technique that's fundamental to these styles and is the exact same technique in each. It's all founded upon sword work, and then trained with either swords, sticks, short swords, knives, or empty hands. Then as time went on, different generations, different families as they spread and migrated put emphasis on different aspects of the very same techniques.
Kenjutstu (sword combat) is within the same tree of techniques. Japanese sword work is the formalized and blocky version of the exact same techniques and motions as you'd find in Hubud/Sinawali from Wing Chun and Kali (eskrima). It's just done with a single sword, or with a katana and wakasashi. Etc. and if you analyze most of the Japanese styles, it's more like they knew what the starting positions were supposed to look like, and they knew what it was supposed to look like when the strike landed, but they had forgotten how to get from point A to point B. (This happens sometimes in any martial art when you try to teach someone posture and structure). This is why Japanese martial arts looks a little more stilted than other styles of martial arts.
As an easy example explaining how these styles are actually the same (and not just similar): It's also completely identical to Muay Thai (Muay Boran) if you held two swords in your fists in the reverse grip. Picture of Muay Thai fighter, picture them holding two katanas in reverse grip, and then picture jabs, reverses, crosses/elbows which are now horizontal slashes, upper cuts/elbows which are now upper slashes, your guard which is now not just your forearms but swords against them blocking incoming strikes, spinning back fists become spinning stabs, etc etc ...
The fact that Muay Thai came *from* this style of fighting shows evidence by things that don't make sense until you put swords in the fighters hands... Such as the rather strange hand positions at front guard where their fists are kind of bent strangely (palms facing the opponent).... This is mimicking the mechanics and look of the hand posture when you're holding swords in reverse grip in a guarded position. It's a vestige of the old style of combat that still exists within the newer version, that was altered for sports ring fighting.
Even the tradition of the "wai khru ram Muay" "dancing" ceremony (done before a Muay Thai fight) is a perverted version of Hubud (done with swords in reverse) done in the air as a warm up and practice motion before a fight. Just watch the introduction of almost any Muay Thai fight, and you'll see them spinning their hands as part of their ceremonial dance... This just became tradition because it was a warm up practice Hubud, done before a training bout. 🤷
But if you actually analyze some of the forms and structures of... Say, Shotokan karate you'll find some of the identical forms and drills done in Wing Chun. The exact same thing can be said for all of these styles that I've listed, because they are fundamentally the exact same. Even things like chambering a punch in Shotokan has it's roots in hip and shoulder chambers for double swords. They've just morphed over time through the generations passing it down.
But, you probably know all of this, since you know all about them. 🤷
Man went from chess to checkers
Checkers is more compicated
@@Daniil_Ryvak isn't checkers solved?
@@spaceship7007 don't know what exactly you mean by solved, pardon
@@Daniil_Ryvak computers know the best move definitively in checkers to win, we know what a perfect game looks like
@@Daniil_Ryvaksolved game means you can win or tie 100% of time by using an algorithm ( not machine learning Aka not ai, just simple algorithm )
Translation: i was terrible at jiu jitsu and muay thai and then switched to wing chun.
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Yes and black belt in four weeks lol.
This is the meaning of basic mentality.
Bruh, I'm dying 😭 💀They are Roasting TF out of this man in the comments here..... 😂
Imagine having Muay thai and Jiu Jitsu experience and then start doing wing Chun. You will be the best wing chun practitioner ever lol. Smashing everyone else in your gym
My elbow floating in the skies waiting for his jaw as he closes distance and then the follow up knee as he's falling.
Wouldn’t work, he stepped outside the lead leg to kill the straight left and with mma or no gloves instead of boxing gloves, he was able to hand fight and basically hold the lead arm to prevent it from throwing anything while his own rear hand was free to come down the center
Assuming you’re southpaw like his partner, at best you’d be able to throw a lead leg body knee but I’d favor his chances of dealing bigger damage in landing a straight right in that specific scenario to the potential counter of the lead knee to the body
@jocoolshow your break down is fair but timing is God in combat
I always see wing chung teacher showing their moves while their students freeze for like a minute so they can show off their fancy moves.
**trains in martial arts which excel at close distance**
"These martial arts don't teach me how to close the distance"
He trained with Chael Sonnen who wouldn't let him get close.
@@ChucksSEADnDEAD this explains a lot. Man was just unfortunate.
Nanana they throw elbows from the distance
@@C-sco that would be impossible
@@lucaspanto9650 sarcasm
“Sir what position were you applying for again”
“Oh the position of advantage”
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This cracked me up
As a muay thai gal, I'm glad my Ajarn has spent his life learning so many martial arts. As I've learned more about wing chun and boxing I'm seeing how it's influenced my teacher's style and therefore mine.
So... Muay Thai (Muay Boran), Silat, Kali, Shotokan karate, Kenjitsu, and Wing Chun are basically all the same. Same tree, different branches, as it were.
So ... Yeah.... It's good to get different perspectives and different training regiments, on basically the same techniques. It informs your usage and training quite a bit. 👍
Wing Chuns concept of bridging is one it's most functional core principles and it's very practical and effective too
Being close isn't automatically a position of advantage.
amen
Facts
He's not just closing distance. He's working angles, hence the "position of advantage".
@@r.n501certainly helps that his opponent doesn't move his feet...
For real especially when your 6 4 and your goal is to keep them at a distance
“I took one class of Muay Thai and BJJ and couldn’t handle it so I did wing Chung”
Did you watch the whole video?
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂. Best comment.
Dude you beat me to it. Guy is full of rubbish to cover his lack of ability
That wasn’t what he said. Are you deft? stupid ? Or both.
Let him get his position of advantage on Seanchai.
Muay thai doesn't just "cover"
What I realized with muay thai at least for me is to tire the enemy out that way when you counter attack he will be sluggish and will take many hits to the body or head. I've done this many times in fights and it works flawlessly
Translation: I wasn’t good at jiujitsu or Muay Thai so I switched to wing chun
For anyone who didnt catch that: He puts himself in a position of advantage.
Indeed, and by the way the correct terminology is "the advantage of having a lobotomized opponent"
Certainly a interesting idea to incorporate into every martial art
Excellent explanation of why and how you use another martial art to cover the weakness of the ones you've already learned.
Yes! Close the distance!
Muay Thai does NOT understand the clinch game and jiu jitsu guys WILL NOT know what to do when someone closes the distance. You are a very wise master for switching to a martial art that has been really put to the test, unlike jiu jitsu and Muay Thai that are only practiced in the dojo and not on a big stage.
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This comment had me triggered af in the first half 😂
Man had me writing a whole paragraph 🤣💀
Yes, that is why Ip man can beat the shit out of Saenchai and Gordon Ryan by his wing chun omega god-like moves 🤡
Please increase your meds or lay off them.
Dude acting like a thai hop doesn't exist
Best thing is for this guy to get in the ring with a professional Muay thai fighter and find out if his system works like he says it does.
There’s loads of quality videos on here that prove it doesn’t 😂
@@vxxthompson966That's what he says..
The problem is the rare times less effective systems work, they are paired with a tilt.
In the case of someone who say does BJJ and Wrestling, they can make stuff that LOOKS like less effective systems work, but they aren't exactly doing what 99% of the system fighters do.
Even like karate fighters as a more prominent example. They tend to not spar, live for kata, and not win shit. But then, you have a few ufc guys who distinctly look "karate" while fighting. Thing is, with all the cross training etc, their karate is very different from other guy's karate. Etc.
Even a few people who have used expressly aikido moves in fights etc, and advocate that aikido works, did so among their other training.
I'd add in that different people, sometimes put things together differently. Or from different perspectives. You might do karate and Judo and never really make them work synergistically. You might then go to a lower level mma gym and find it doesn't really do anything for you. You might go take Aikido and it makes you mentally use your karate and Judo together well.
The problem then, is you tell people "aikido is why I can fight, you should do aikido". But in reality when you kicked 2 guys asses, it was because you did Judo and Karate, the Aikido just happened to by the catalyst you needed to get your fight IQ to click. And anyone listening to you and taking aikido will not get the same benefits.
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The fact that Wing Chun was also practiced with a butterfly knives in mind, makes this logic and instantaneous counter moves more deadly
Karate guy here. 25 years. Mua Thai is one of those sets is absolutely essential in a fight. We put it in our curriculum.
Ah yes classic muay thai i just stand there and get hit and never close distance or clinch😂
Make sure after a check you leave your hands still anywhere but blocking your face. The best position is hanging limply at your side. What's funny is half his 'positions of advantage' are clearly stepping directly into the other guy's power. What a joke.
Imean muay thai is kinda like playing a tank character with high dmg but low mobility
@@ddp47297Muay Thai has so many techniques, have you seen Haggerty fight? Have you seen Saenchai fight? how you do Muay Thai is how you understand it, Muay Thai even allow grapple above the hips, and you can use Judo throws in Muay Thai, but it doesn't score, so you don't see a lot of MT guys do it, personally I do it a lot because it helps dominate your opponent.
Should see the videos of the mma guy who technically is not even that good smashing Chinese martial artists. I saw 1 where the guy made it the 2nd round though
@@ddp47297low mobility? Naaah the disadvantage of muay thai is that the engine needs to warm up properly first but once it's warm its like a tank with high damage and decent to high mobility depending on who drives the tank
My elbow waiting for him: 🗿
*laughs in muay sok*
@@CFFB7742Laughs in muay boran and lethwei
Literally the whole point of wing chun is to trap that lmao
@@LG0006 Ummm nope, since when? Wing Chun likes to be in close, in the range of a Muay Sok/Khao. They can't clinch for shit, and the low hands/lack of head movement is goddamn perfect for anyone waiting to elbow you in the face as soon as you try close distance.
Muay thai elbows aren't like the light ones you deal with in chi sao...
I did Wing Chun before doing Muay Thai and BJJ (which I think this guy is trying to claim he did rather than Japanese Jiu Jitsu but obviously doesn't know the actual info). So I'm actually just as qualified as this guy when I say Wing Chun is just not comparable to Muay Thai. It's better than nothing, don't get me wrong, but if you think it's enough to take on a Muay Thai fighter who's been training a similar amount of time? You're delusional haha
@@brandonfitzgerald-eo3tkMuay Boran is a joke.
I think the video would be more correctly labeled "Why I added Wing Chun style footwork to my Muay Thai." Which is a great point for a street fight just remember Muay Thai is a sport so they are looking to emphasize certain skillsets. So basically being able to stand in front of your opponent because it shows great defense and leads to a lot of exchanges for the viewers. They dont want the western boxing style Mayweathers types on their bicycles...so while it may work it's just not what they're necessarily looking for.
I’m going to have to add this theory of fighting into my routine fr. I love it
If this was honest: I did BJJ and Muay Thai first but realised that i am not good at it.. so i choose to become a Wing Chun instructor where i can make money without being tested by good fighters ....truth spoken
Man I can tell you have no clue re real combat. Yeah I’m not saying you don’t train marshal arts as how could I know. But you would be a lot more respectful and clued up about wing chung if you actually knew what you was talking about. Muay Thai and BJJ are brilliant fighting styles and both have their place. But then so does wing chung. Especially on the streets- with no padded gloves and bare knuckle- I might add. In a tight spot, say in a club, wing chung might serve you better than those other sports. As others have said on here, plenty of UFC champs incorporate wing chung into their armoury successfully. 💪🏾🤷🏾♂️✊🏾
Man got tapped that many times in one roll by a blue belt and straight up became Stephen Segal overnight.
Underrated comment
The reason why Capoeira hidden crouching kick is so powerful is because its closer to the ground, the power doesnt have to dissipate up the spine.
“Position of advantage” and then suddenly wakes up from the canvas.
"Bam! I'm in a position of adva... Wait why are you taking me to the ground? I'm supposed to be in a position of advantage."
Exactly!!!
Yup.
Why are you Submitting me im in a Position of Advantage
@@MM_Da_59_Spirit Why are you doing an armbar? I'm in a position of advantage 😔
... Maybe I'm missing something, but you do realize that Jiu-Jitsu (what he said he's already trained and proficient in) is pretty infamous for ground work, right?
Let me guess a week doing Brazilian judo and two weeks kickboxing. Otherwise you wouldn't close the distance like that. Jiujitsu guys will think it's Christmas, muay guys thanks giving and you it's new years because all you'll see is stars and fireworks. These are both arts with the most excellent close quarters techniques. Ones that surpas any others and their own on all other distances. You are literally giving them ample opertunity to mess you up on their own speciality.
You're crazy, what's the Muay Thai fighter gonna do in close distance? Clinch elbow and/or knee? You don't understand that if you practice wing chun the opponent has to stand there and take it 😂
@@HlebHD😂
@@HlebHD no the wing chung opponent will be out before then. Never fought muay thai fighter? There's a reason they are considered tough. The same reason wing chung masters in China today get slaughtered by a lesser form. They aren't full contact. Wing Chung was created as a self defense system. It's not capable to stand against the sheer brutality of real combat sports. They can't ever win. It's never happened.
@@danielkeizer4174 Bro... Sarcasm 😅
@@HlebHD crap..I read it wrong the first time, sorry about that. Yep, it's them rules. If ever you meet a Wing Chung practitioner they get the first 50 slaps. After that if you still standing. Your allowed to knock them out. It's just to keep it fair. You know. Even the odds. Till now zero points wing chung and flawless victory for everything else. But you never know...there might be one that can pull it off...
"I got my ass kicked before. So here we are"
He unlocked real fighting method.
My special forces unit trained heavily in urban counter-sniper tactics and IED detection and disposal when we were in Fallujah.....before I discovered nunchucks. This is why I changed. Nunchucks allow you to engage enemy snipers with 1 end while putting yourself in an advantageous position to safely detonate an IED with the other.
This comment deserves more love.
Not enough people understand the power of nunchucks, some idiots still think an M4 Carbine is a better weapon than wooden nunchucks 😂😂😂 What idiots
Genuinely cracked me up 🤣🤣🤣🤣 fuckin hilarious man 😂
Comment of the year so far 😅
While you were in Fallujah, did you by some chance happen to meet Jeremy Dewitte?
He should challenge a Muay Thai fighter then
Yes he can he is one
@@Baklavabot a real one,dude and in a real combat situation!! Get real,bro!!😉
Can’t wait for that video… 🤛 💥 👊🏻 💥
Unfortunately, not every Muay Thai fighter could be a champion! What’s the use for being a sandbag in learning? Are you a Muay Thai fighter and why not if you weren’t?
Weak Thai nerd gets tapped since he doesn't know bjj or judo, that wasn't the gotcha moment you thought it was.
"I did Jiu Jitsu and Muay Thai before and I got choked and KO'd every time, now I do Wing Chun"
Sometimes staying on the outside is a position of advantage.
"Everyone's got a plan until they get punched in the face." Mike Tyson
Legs are best used for mobility arms are best used for killing, master your arms and then focus on your legs next
I hear this one all the time and all the time it's correct
So True 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣👍🏿❤.You must've had a few experiences .
"or kick to the face" -Muayk Thaison
Exactly 💯
His best buddy is an Aikido grand wizard. Two most dangerous men in any room 😂
must be sensei seagal
Lol oss 🥋
The internet is amazing. So many grand masters of martial arts! It’s phenomenal!
I guarantee this guy would get starched by most Muay Thai coaches.
THINGS I LEARNED FROM THIS VIDEO.
ALWAYS PUT YOUR SELF IN A POSITION OF ADVANTAGE.
Dude decided Muay thai was too hard, took the position of advantage and joined wing chun
@@Blueshisothese comments are so dumb
@@Blueshisoi thought wing chun was shit but ive Seen a vidéo where thé Guy use wing chun vs MMA fighter the name of thé Channel IS karate bushido its a french Channel
@@rr-ve7wc I have belief in some things considered bullshido, it is certainly the martial artist rather than the art
@@Blueshiso yeah its definitely bullshido but it work for that Guy of course if i do this in a fight or street fight i will be destroy but look AT the Guy i talk about hé Can use it of course IS not just using wing chun
This should be called: “how to get knocked the f**k out 101”
Dude in video would whoop your ass along with any other true martial artist lol. Martial artists respect each other regardless of what level they are at its fundamental in many martial arts even BJJ the fact you talking shit is kind of all anyone needs to know about your ability.
@@eddiehazard3340heh quirky so cool even tho your wrong asf and uneducated hehhe xo xo gossip girl stfu 😂
Yeah. I do not think this would work
@@zeroandplanb4lifehis advice is pretty legit tbh. He sees wing chun as a way to go from muay Thai to close in to get to bjj. Also, once you hit 40, you realise muay Thai and bjj won't help you that much anymore. These martial arts are hard. They cripple your body badly over the years. Having stuff like wing chun and taiji will help you a lot. You don't have the same explosive strength or reflexes. But you can keep flexibility and use your experience in wiser ways. Won't win you fights in the octogon, but I'm sure this dude could humble 99% of the smartass people here in the comment section.
@@eddiehazard3340 I don't know much about wing chun tbh. I only trained jj, muay thai, taiji and some lesser known Tibetan martial art called tög chod. I do think fighting changes as you grow older. Obviously not in a ring, but how many professional fighters you know over 40? An old instructor once told me that after 40, If you still think you can defeat a guy in his late 20's that is properly trained you're delusional. But irl you can deescalate a lot of situations. You can calm people or defend yourself against drunks or people without too much experience. In the real world you can also have some help, like a combat light, a taser, a knife, a gun , etc... Which are way more useful when you know how to use them properly.
Him: "I' m in a position of adva-"
*Gets elbowed in the face while sidestepping and throwing a wing chun punch*
This is like when people drop out of engineering and switch to marketing
This guy went from full contact fighting to dancing
Did bro just say that he's more vulnerable OUTSIDE of his opponents distance and avoids that by getting INTO his opponents reach??!
And don't forget make yourself more predictable 😂😂😂susceptible to faints and counters 😂😂this is literally how you get kod
That's true in a way, especially if you're shorter, you can smother them so they can't throw effective strikes if you're too close for them to generate power and torque. Wing chun doesn't work, though. Just go do boxing.
@@blackhoodie4170 That's not the point. Doesn't matter how much taller your opponent is, if you're not in his distance he can not hit you.
Bro getting check hooked, tied up in a clinch and knee'd so hard lol
Key component during my sparring in karate training in my youth
"Everybody is in the position of advantage until they get punched in the face"
Lol
This dude has had 0 fights in his career, clearly.
Coming from the guy who can't fight.
Let’s fight then @MP-et1eu lol
@@RJ-rp8yd I boxed for many years brotha lol
Still, it makes sense.
@@joshpotectan6028 not really. He’s pretending that when he gets kicked it’s not going to affect him in any way. He’s also pretending his opponent is just gonna strike or get hit and stand there like 🤓
1. You're less vulnerable when you have distance.
2. If you're doing muay thai it's totally fine to close the gap and throw blows.
3. If your doing jiu jitsu and muay thai it's totally fine to do the same thing.
Mike Tyson once said: "Everybody has a plan until they meet a Wing Chun expert".
Once the opponent sees this video you are no longer in position of advantage
I’m so proud of this comment section 👏👏👏
This dude was born in a position of advantage
A very good explanation of why some styles are more practical (not necessarily better in all circumstances) in combat.
I've never seen the martial art journey go in this direction
😂dying
It's common though. Muay Thai and bjj don't age well. As you get older these combat sports get really hard on your body. You don't have the same reflexes and you don't have the joint strength to keep up with the younger people. What you do have is experience. And so martial arts like wing chun or taiji can be beneficial. If I still box it's only because taiji helped me spare my joints. It's old people martial arts. And if you have experience in things like Mt or bjj it definitely has its merits. His advice really isn't that bad. The goal isn't to go into the octogon with this stuff. But in real life, against drunk or inexperienced fighters, it just works. You probably won't win against a kickboxer that's 27 and high on coke who fights in illegal mobster fights in russia, but I'm not sure any martial arts would help you in that type of situation except a navy seals training. Context is key, and here we have an older gentleman teaching self defense that seems a lot more wise and rooted in real life combat than 99% of the shit you hear out there.
Odds are, he's lying.
No other way to explain a clear lapse in judgement.
Once your opponent understands this, you're just running into his punch.
This is a good technique for when you dont want to hurt your oponent
Interesting. I did Wing Chun before Jiu jitsu and Muay Thai. I also boxed later on and since returning to Muay Thai, I've been having trouble making my boxing work while being mindful of kicking range. This is probably what I need to do.
"I trained Jiu-Jitsu and it had no advantage or ability to close the distance so I switched". Dude is higher than a mf Koala bear.
I saw 'Wing Chun' in the video title and rushed to the comments section
lol, true my spinal reflex takes everything into consideration while my thought process lags behind ;-;
I don't understand how people got the audacity to call Muay Thai not being able to do something specific
Everyone has a plan until he gets leg kicked © Muayk Thaison
Lol
❤😂
This works really well when your opponent stands statuesque
This guy just single handedly nullified the advantage of height in one video
As a wrestler, the way this guy checks kicks has me rolling, lol. Dude is just trying to hand you a monkey grip single leg.
Me on footsweep day:
Biggest downgrade in history 😭
Insert the “This has been the worst trade deal in the history of trade deals....maybe ever.” meme 😂
I've heard several times now from people who did boxing that adding wing chun gave them extra tools and improved them as a fighter. Just get your basis in real combat sports first. There do exist good practical wing chun clubs. I was in one for a while. They did a lot of drills and light sparring. The teacher practiced two other combat arts and could really fight. But I've seen a lot of garbage on the internet. This is to extent I think a problem with Chinese martial arts where they've become ornamental and lack basis in real live combat.
How is it a downgrade when he learned an additional martial art?? Now he has 3 to beat you down instead of 2
@@creamInbetweensthat’s like saying “I’m fighting three opponents; one is a baby”
@@creamInbetweensBc Wing Chun is the equivalent of LARPing .. it's obviously for people that can't hack Thai Boxing , Jits or Wrestling
Translation: I was getting F’d up in Muay Thai sparring sessions so I switched to something that doesn’t require me to actually fight
Wing Chun is a machine 😂
Everybody wants to close the distance until they get elbowed in the chin.
-Mhuayk Thaisahn
Bro you visit couple times a muay thai gym but you never trained really i can see it 😅😅
I learned literally my first time hard sparring why almost everything he said and did is completely idiotic.
It's wing chun, man. Obviously not for fighting or sparring. It's for when you have a totally compliant stooge.
that's because you're not that technical of a fighter
His advice was sound, just not easy to pull off against a more skilled opponent
@@kpsiexMan you must be the best fighter in the world if you can tell what kind of fighter somebody is based off a short comment. Curb that ego, it doesn't belong in any gym
@@AvlisadSirk any technically developed fighter uses some aspects of wing chun. Because it is MMA, for one.
i can immediately tell who is a casual and who isn't.
In muay thai, you also close distance and throw combos!
No one throws one kick or punch and then stands in range to be countered.
"The Way of the Intercepting Leg. "
Bro got +100 social credit score for this 🔥🔥
On point 😂
Social credit doesn't exist, in Us yes.
@@renombreaiy6441you mean not yet? Lol be patient.
@@renombreaiy6441How to ruin a joke 101:
Bruh 🤣
this short should be named
how to catch an elbow to the head
from someone who actually knows muay thai
or get taken to the ground and pounded into
oblivion by an average bjj practitioner
Well that would require the BJJ practitioner to have enough balls to train with strikes allowed. which 99% don't. They will face hard reality when they try and grapple with a dude who kicks and punches them.
@@onlygoodone3077 Lmao, you have never been to a bjj class and it shows. True masters don't only train you in grappling, they teach you how to fight. Mine taught us how to catch different strikes like kicks and punches and use them to take our opponent down. He also taught us to throw punches and elbows from top position. So don't go around shitting on guys who train bjj purely for the grappling cause they enjoy the sport, cause I can asure you there are a lot of other guys who can take a punch, take you down and absolutely disfigure your face with no issue at all. You couch dweller.
Bro did Muay Thai in parallel universe
No mma champion has ever been a wenchun expert
...🤦 Um... Ever heard of Anderson Silva?
The comments in here are just ruthless! I love it!
because they're all keyboard warriors who have received surface level knowledge of martial arts and mma and hopped onto the bandwagon of hating wing chun, failing to get into the actual technicalities of all this and thinking off of their emotions. they write a comment "guhh!! try this in a real mma cage octagon fight ring!!!! see what happens!!" and think that's that, they proved him wrong, he's finished. this my friend, is called ignorance, or it is done on purpose, and that's called hardcore gatekeeping, and it's done more than you think, it wouldn't be an advantage if everybody knew about it.
@@kpsiex you speak with so much confidence almost as if you know what you’re talking about
@@kpsiexno one hates wing chun or even cares about it. It’s just ridiculous to bring up two of the most tested combat styles and then say “yeah except wing chun is better because I’m putting myself in a position of advantage” when the guy has clearly never trained either MT or BJJ. Tf do you think they are doing in those arts, that they don’t know how to clinch or close distance or understand range? BJJ is 95% about being in a position of advantage. This guy is coming from a place of ignorance and he’s getting called out on it, rightfully so. You can train whatever you want but to try to advertise that you’re better than proven systems when you’re not is just nonsense
@@danielfrancisco9469 "when the guy has clearly never trained either MT or BJJ." i'll just pretend you never said this...
"This guy is coming from a place of ignorance and he’s getting called out on it, rightfully so." and yet i haven't seen anyone call him out on what mistakes he specifically made in his techniques, was there an opening? bad balance? timing? nothing. the only thing people call him out for is daring to incorporate aspects of wing chun into mma, and yet: "no one hates wing chun or even cares about it.", right?. i'm telling you. it's because of the name. if he said 52 blocks or panantukan instead of wing chun you wouldn't have comments like this. all i've seen in these comments is bare shit talk, no one actually getting into the technicalities of it, so they aren't calling him out on SHIT. the simple answer is, not everybody is all-knowing, most people are casuals, especially in the topic of MMA, so it is expected.
@@kpsiex the proof is in the video. If he had trained, he wouldn’t be saying this nonsense. That’s the point non fighters don’t understand. It’s actually really easy to verify someone’s training based on what they perceive combat to be like. And also, my explaining that is basically unnecessary, I don’t have to prove that he didn’t do something, rather he would have to prove that he did. And he can’t, because he didn’t.
I'm in Thailand right now training muay thai for the year. This is simply closing the distance and getting inside the pocket, I drilled a combination that looks almost identical to what he's explaining here like 2 days ago. Simply put the problem is if you're always trying to put yourself in a "position of advantage" as he calls it is that if your opponent has some training they will notice the fact you are simply trying to get into that "position" after every strike. They will be prepared for you to perform your first strike and counter you entering the pocket.
Yeah, this is the type of guy i wish xu would fight (i dont remember his last name but hes hated in china for destroying fake martial arts like this one)
Your talking about sport fighting, and I agree on that front. Most TMA were never designed for organised bouts but for assaults, or war depending on the time and place.
They aren’t the same, as boxing has been proved thousands of times to lose to effective street fighters. If what you claim about sport fighting were true then boxing and wrestling would have always been dominant, but they weren’t were they.
The ring and any variant is as much of a weapon as a belt or gi. Take that away or add a weapon and different skills are handy.
I don’t disregard the value of sport fighting, so why do you ignore the value of a different training regimen.
@@zman4116 look at you, lieing your ass off, tell me one time someone with even just 6 months of boxing training has ever lost to a "effective street fighter".
@@zman4116 also if you tried to use something like wing chun to do anything for assault or war, your ass is getting killed, so how about you actually look into martial arts rather than just saying some of the most stupid bullshit anyone has ever seen. What next, you going to say aikido is the most powerful martial art ever?
@@Idiotic_impulses you’ve clearly led a sheltered life. Stick to your gym.
Mike Tyson also uses that philosophy. His peekaboo style makes him close distance to deliver a barrage of punches.