As an Asian Australian I felt this way about Emma Stone’s Aloha Character..... until I gave birth to my red haired blue eyed ethnically 1/4 Chinese son. Rare but not impossible.
@@loeysgalaxy6283 i kinda feel like it was racist to put her character on this list, cuz essentially the argument is even though her character canonically doesn't look at all like her heritage and is being portrayed to reflect that its still wrong because she doesn't look Hawaiin or chinese enough. and to me that's wrong, that's not any better. its like saying you can only boast about your ethnicity as long as you look stereotypically ethnic enough.
@@littlekaren1551 But it's not like that, the video even said so herself. It wouldn't matter if she didn't look 'hawaian' or 'chinese', the fact of the matter is, she isn't of any of those backgrounds. So it would have been better to cast a partly hawaian or asian person to play this role, even if they didn't look like it at all. So If they would have taken a hawaian/chinese girl with maybe red hair and blue eyes, their would be no problem. Stone is fully white/american. So it just doesn't feel right to let her play the role of someone with a different heritage. It has nothing to do with her looks.
@@VirtualVixen. I'm all for casting an actor that is accurate to the character ethnically and looks wise. but you also have to cast in a way that keeps true to who the character is as a person. Allison Ng was proud of her heritage, but looked nothing liked it, therefore constantly bragged about it so poeple would know she was Hawaiian, and chinese. as Danielle Louise pointed out a chinese kid coming out with red hair and blue eyes is rare, it would've been rarer to find a chinese with that description with the right age. what would they have done if they couldn't find someone like that? because casting an asian or Hawaiian because they are that heritage despite looking nothing like her would have made half of her personality/behavior pointless, weird, and bizarre. she wouldn't act that way at all, because there would be no point. and her character is a lesson how can't you judge a book by its cover. you don't always look like your heritage, despite what your genetics actually are. case in point poeple have confused my stepdad as my bio-dad, cuz we look a bit alike. we have no commonality in our ethnicity/genetics.
plus, which made it more cringey? the fact that's she's not ethnically the same as the character or that emma stone's white? would there have been a fuss if her character was dark skinned and being portrayed by a dark skinned actor who was not the same ethnicity? probably not when you consider how often darker skinned minorities portray native americans on TV despite not being native american and no one ever talks about that.
Henriksen's character was supposed to be a douchebag. If anything, someone being totally up front about the Weinstein-esque behavior was ahead of its time. Yes, it's uncomfortable, but that was the point. Heaven forbid we show a modicum of honesty regarding the ugly truths of life.
I completely agree. The movie was clearly calling out the industry here. They weren't glorifying him. The movie "wouldn't work today" if he were the protagonist we are supposed to be rooting for, but that's not what this character is. He is clearly written as a villain of the story (albeit a secondary villain to the Ghostface Killer). If anything, this would work even better today because we know it's an accurate depiction of how scummy Hollywood can be.
You know, in these days even killers, terrorists, thieves, cult leaders, sexual predators must be in movies shown as woke and progresive. Antagonist who is culturally sensitvie and progresive is atagonist of modern age.
@@mogshade66 Very original, attacking age. What will be next, grammar? I am married, so probably old enough to watch adult movies. If you think age is only merit for having an opinion. Maybe if you think before attacking someone, you will notice that it is irony. Because those characters are supposed to be bad and they shown them as "not fit for modern times movies"? It is crazy. Yes, Woke is disgusting term for extremists who take it too much to left. I am liberal, but normal, not extremist and normal people can´t agree with those extremists who want to cancel everything they don´t like, who criticize 50 years old movies (like if they don´t know how time works and that perception of things is changed in time), who want quotas and no creative freedom. Because if writers/ directors can´t use any characters they want, but have to have characters that are in line with some agenda, then it is not creativity, but propaganda - which is thing for dictatorship countries. In separate post I wrote this. Maybe it will help you understand what I was meaning. 8. Why? Because Hawaians are racist and would not allow white people to live among them, to marry, take husband name and be raised as hawaians? It is bad to be proud hawaian and not looking like one? So if you move to other country and lives there for long time, or you are raised in that country, you can´t take it as your home? You can´t be proud on that country? You know that there are some black people who are proud Russians? Do you considter this also racist? Or cultural insensitive? 7. So if she is gay it is OK. But if she found out she is bisexual, it is bad? You know that in movies improbable thing happens all the time? 6. So you saing that bad people can´t be in movies? So no killers, invasive aliens, nothing? Only positive characters? Because he wasn´t show as good guy in Scream. Or even antagonist needs to be woke? 5. So you sayng that asians are only one type of people, smart and resourceful. All other depcitions are wrong? There are no variations? 3. Stiffler - OK? And what? He isn´t main character, he isn´t role model. Same as your point in Scream. If you want only positive characters in movie, than we will have very weak movies when there is no stakes at anything because there aren´t any bad, stupid, or creepy characters.
When it comes to Hattie McDaniel as Mammy, I agree with the role never working today in our PC world. According to Wikipedia, she had this to say when it came to people criticizing her choices for roles in other movies like Disney's "Song of the South": "Why should I complain about making $700 a week playing a maid? If I didn't, I'd be making $7 a week being one." Gotta respect that woman.
@@marcuscollins949 Not exactly great film roles for dark skinned black women in 2021 let alone 1939. "Precious" is about as good as it gets. Noone will cast a dark skinned black women as a (romantic) lead in a mainstream Hollywood production unless it's based on a book/ real life person with a dark skinned black women character. And even then if the character is positive (supposed to be easy going, light hearted, slim, smart/ intelligent, ambitious, attractive, talented, witty, charming, whimsical) they'll cast a lighter skinned actress
@@michelleannor6944 Now we have progressed to where black people can play historically black characters but white people are limited to only playing white people. I'm surprised Yul Brynner never got mentioned a Russian gypsy who played an Egyptian royalty, a Siamese King - pretty much any nationality but Russian.
I'm a bit forgiving when comes to Mammy. Honestly, speaking as Black Caribbean man, a lot of our grandmothers, great-aunts and so on were in that role of working for others and doing what they can to survive. Mammy had to put on a smile because she's smart enough to know that in that time, an unhappy maid is an ex-maid. The smile hid all the pain and suffering but also showed the strength and wisdom she accumulated over the years. Yes, we have evolved past that time. However, to deny it is to deny what has made us stronger and brought us to where we are. You can complain about the past or learn from it. I choose to learn from it.
Ummm no. Mammy has no real life ambitions or goals. She exists solely for those around her and has her feminine traits completely stripped away. As a black woman that’s insulting.
@@msnewsenior To YOU, she has no goals. To anyone else who's aware of the time, there's only so much a woman of color can do IN THAT TIMEFRAME. Just because someone is doing what they can at the time does not that's all they can do if given more opportunity. Unfortunately, Mammy lived where that was all that ALLOWED for her to do. Therefore, she did what she could.
@@PHSDM104 If they’re not provided then she doesn’t have any. It’s not rocket science. She’s a caricature portrayed in tv and films and never has any goals and exists only for the family she serves. That’s the literal definition of the stereotype 🤦🏽♀️
While most of John Hughes' movies still hold up extraordinarily well, a lot of things have NOT aged well. Namely, the casual sexism, racist and homophobia has NOT held up, and the only minority character in "Sixteen Candles" is used as the butt of the joke.
Worse, the character of Long Duk Dong could have been eliminated from "Sixteen Candles" altogether and Samantha's story would have remained in tact. He serves no purpose in the plot. Why is he even there?
@@kelleyceccato7025 Comic relief. Not good comic relief, but that was the intent. There's a lot of throw away characters in movies. He stands out because of the shitty stereotypes.
Fun fact: the actor who plays Long Duk Dong also provided the voice of Ling in the original Disney Mulan film of 1998. Talk about going from one mildly notable character to a more iconic one.
Racism against all people of color in media is still prevalent They get cast as caricatures. They get cast as stereotypes. They don't even get auditions in the first place. Sure, things are getting a little better but the fact that in the 2000s & 2010s, movies like the last airbender and aloha were allowed to happen or that the actors even signed on, that's a problem.
Thank you for NOT including Robert Downey, Jr's role as Sgt. Lincoln Osiris in Tropic Thunder. I hate when that one is included in lists like this because it was done beautifully, respectfully and with dead-on accuracy while remaining satire.
It was also a satire on method actors who go to far. Which I'm not going to lie might have been something some random method actor might have done either in the past or still might do in the future
All this talk of changing the movies, books, and other items of the past needs to stop because, if we can't remember where we've been how do we know where we're going. And also " Those that cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it" - Santayana
I don’t think people are asking for past movies and books to change. The thing is that it is still difficult to see good representation for minorities in current media. I wouldn’t mind all the bad representation if there was a lot more good gay, Asian, black, etc characters.
No one is saying to go back and change them..... They're saying hey let's not do this anymore 🤦🏾♀️🙄 We don't need to keep praising the things we're not supposed to do to know not to do them.
Agree! Actually American Pie foresaw trends which were nearly absurd at the time and came to reality now. For instance, the very scene depicted in the video on broadcasting Nadia over the internet: "what am I gonna do? broadcast her over the internet?". The answer is unfortunately yes too often.
First of all, he was a character that the audience was meant to be endeared--that's why he's part of the main cast and they made all the marketing material about him, remember? The other aspect is that, because he was not an antagonist and not a character who is served poetically by his behavior in anyway, we realize now how that *normalizes* the behavior as "not that big a deal." Which you're kinda' proving right now.
I believe the producer character in scream 3 would still work today but the writers would add more depth and commentary on rape culture that has been ingrained within the Hollywood culture.
That character already seemed like a step in the right direction, but I agree with you that another character like that should be portrayed in a way that goes more into depth about the problems with people like that, in general, along with that problem still persisting in Hollywood, to this day.
I liked the movie, but everyone says that they agree for me recieving death threats from the Avatar fandom. Let's see if the Avatar fandom will literally kill me if I would like the Netflix one
"Times are changing for the better?" Are they serious?? You mean how people are getting so easily offended by everything to the point where others are afraid to even speak, because they're afraid of being called a racist, or a bigot? Or even getting trashed online or sued? Yeah.... sounds waaaayyyyyy better.
There have always people who've been afraid to say or do something edgy because they or their livelihood would suffer for it ... totally guessing here, but you're offended because white men are starting to get a hint of what that's like, right? I mean, hey, you do you. But some day when you've worked beyond the knee-jerk defensiveness, you should give some serious thought about why people bring this stuff up. It's not about cancel culture -- most of that is manufactured outrage. And it isn't actually about oppressing you. It mostly boils down to: don't be a dick. Funny how hard that is for so many people ...
@martinez.z thing are not getting better they are getting worse. Since when does stopping freedom of speech a better thing., we are heading into a dictatorship.
@martinez.z Yes, that is an improvement, and that's the point. Too many are telling us that life in the US is full of oppression, racism, and misery for minorities and that no progress has been made. As you correctly point out, a lot of progress HAS been made in racial equality and advancement, and not just in the fact that no one gets lynched. That's the easy one. That's why we are sick of being told how terrible life is for minorities. Because it is NOTHING like it was 50, 100, years ago. What Scott Pore is talking about is the new world replacing it, and he is right too - it is getting worse. So - you're both right.
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Along with "Chasing Amy" and "Gigli", Ben Affleck has a history of trying to turn lesbian women straight - or at least bi
"She was based on a real person who looked nothing like her ancestry, but ignorant people don't want to acknowledge that's a thing so they decided to be offended for shits and giggles."
I was with them until they mentioned that the person she was portraying looked about as much like her ancestry as the actress that played her. That one is a big stretch.
Clearly the narrator has never scen Chasing Amy because Alyssa explains that she is actually bisexual and only identified as a lesbian because of not wanting to conform. Jesus
Which is a bit ironic... Alyssa didn't want to conform so she defines herself by "conforming" to a specific sexual identity which is not accurate. Maybe she doesn't know what "conform" actually means. In her defense, though, the term "sexually fluid" didn't exist back then, or at least was not widely used or understood. Look back even further to the 70s and the tv series "Soap". Jodie (played by Billy Crystal) identified as gay, but most of the evidence from the show pointed toward bi with a slight preference for men.
@@roguejester4986 Why should he? It was a deeply thought-provoking story about the perils of rigid roles in sexuality and the unfairness of slut-shaming.
@@princessstomper8068 Because people should not pursue those who are just not that into you, regardless of her sexuality. I get what you are saying but when a female and a male say they are homosexual, people of the opposite gender of them should not insist on a relationship there.
I still think there was some badassery that leaked through in Patty McDaniel's role in Gone With the Wind. That movie is a product of its times and has all the terrible problems that you would expect, but McDaniel imbued her character with shrewed intelligence and grit in spite of all the racism.
Pro tip: The word “sensitive” is often equated with weakness (i.e., it has a negative connotation), so most people are not going to care if you call them “insensitive.” If anything, they’ll take it as a compliment or feel more powerful. Using words like disrespectful, inconsiderate, thoughtless, rude, etc. might help get the point across better.
@@lexkanyima2195 not necessarily. This applies to people from all generations. It’s just not quite as bad with the younger generations as it used to be (aside from heightened tensions on social media, in politics, etc between people with opposing views)
Ah, the 90s and early 2000s. I remember loving american pie! I still quote it a lot... I wanna go back in time!! Who remembers blink 182 and less than jake in the 90s? So much fun
interesting that at the beginning they say things have gotten better yet, we are in the middle of a post apocalyptic movie. We have a pandemic that is requiring us to wear masks and distance ourselves, we are dealing with a political system that is divided, disconnected from the general public, ineffective and unliked. Small businesses are shutting down. People are forced to take gig jobs shuttling customers who don't have cars but have more than enough to pay those with cars to chauffer them around. So we live in a culture where you can't make a joke without offending anyone. Even if you resemble the actual person who is a quarter Hawaiin you can't do so if you are not a Hawaiin with the proper stereotypical appearance? Our music is all computer generated, devoid of musicians, instruments and soul. Our television shows are lame, low budget, season long reunion specials of what our parents watched. Our movies are reboots retelling the same origin stories to characters who have been well established for decades. I;m really lost as to what is getting better.
I remember the 90s and early 2000s! I miss those days very much. The American Pie movies are my favorites. I also remember Blink 182. My favorite song from that group is All The Small Things. I love how catchy that song is.
Movies were far better back in the 90s than today. No comparison. They hardly even make any original films today. Back then they made them all the time.
I wouldn't call fake virtuesignalling,heavy censorship,forced diversity,toxic inclusion,straight white man BAD,and actors/actresses to "STAY IN YOUR LANE" getting better.
Totally agree. Movies and shows are getting much worse at actually being fun, entertaining, original, and creative, because they are too obsessed with pushing all the buttons to be sure no one gets offended. "In the Heights" is the latest and stupidest example of this. The guy makes a movie with a totally diverse cast about his neighborhood, and then gets criticized because someone sat there counting the number of 'Afro-Latinos' in the cast and didn't see enough of them.
I feel like John Milton is the perfect depiction of higher-ups in Hollywood! The character is absolutely horrendous but it's the truth and I think they did a wonderful job with it! More characters should be "real".
Thing about Gone with the Wind. Is the book was written many years ago, before the movie about the civil war and the book highlights all injustices at the time.
I wouldn't blame Mcdaniels for black people being forced to play servile roles in early hollywood. I would blame racism as a whole. Even if gone with the wind was never made, which might have been for the better frankly, white people of the 30s, 40s 50s and 60s would still have been too racist to put african Americans in any roles other than those of servants.
The producer of the film, David O. Selznick, knew how racist the original book was and wanted to avoid the extreme stereotypes as much as possible compared to films that were made before "Gone with the Wind". He wanted to represent the black actors with as much dignity as he could since he was Jewish and was thinking of the Jewish populations in Nazi Europe at the time. I can say that Selznick achieved that partially.
You know very little about film history. The 50s and 60s? Have you not seen Raisin in the Sun? In the Heat of the Night? Those are the years Sidney Poitier broke into A-list status. He was the pioneer, and he started in the 50s. And he did NOT play servants. So, you're completely and 100% wrong. Do some research before posting nonsense like this. It also might amaze you that Gone With the Wind isn't about racism, the Civil War, or the South. That's not what the story is about. Have you actually seen it? It's about Scarlett, and her selfish inability to relate well to people, even ones who care about her. It's about her and Rhett Butler. It's art. It's an epic, and it revolutionized the film industry in ways that still affect us today. And, it's also a product of its time.
@@margarethmichelina5146 Yeah, I heard that a black "actress" named Halle Bailey was cast as Ariel in the upcoming live-action animated film of Little Mermaid. Or so I heard.
@@amierulbaharin765 Mermaids aren't *automatically* white, though. Ariel looked like ME!! I got over it, lol. STILL not thrilled about "Annie". That was just lame, period.
@@widowrumstrypze9705 I know that mermaids aren't "automatically" white. It's just that they need to be loyal to the original animated film. I'm okay if they make a separate film that's not in any way related to the animated The Little Mermaid but since it does, they just need to stay loyal to the original film. I'm not racist though, I'm just a very devoted fan of Disney films.
Am I the only one who'd say that Kevin's or Jim's characters were more problematic than Stifler? In contrast to Stifler those were the guys you were supposed to root for.
Ok but the scream 3, thing was part of the satire style of scream. By that point it had been know that the industry was like that but not proven. So the writer was calling it out in the movie.
Oh, it was proven. It was an open secret to anyone who paid attention and wasn't in the "Hollywood Scene". If you were part of that scene, you were involved in it.
"...By that point it had been know..." It was known in the 50s. For that matter, judging by older films I've seen, it was known in the 1930s. The "casting couch" has existed as long as Hollywood. Why do you think actors/actresses were considered little better than prostitutes for most of human history?
I find the whole mammy gone with the wind part to be adding to the problem. You side blamed Hattie McDaniel for society. Her role in the movie is doubtfully why black actors were locked into these roles. That era was heavy with segregation and I would highly doubt her playing this role and winning an award caused that.
Oh yes, segregation was legally allowed and practiced often. Hattie McDaniel won an Oscar for her role! And she wasn't even allowed to come in the theater through the front entrance, and was made to go around the back of the building through the service entrance and walk through the kitchen in her beautiful gown and dress heels just to get to her seat!!!
And yet there were members of the cast including Clark Gabel that stood up for her. We look at her with shame when she broke barriers and fought. We are so ungrateful.
As Dominic Noble points out, it is a very 'faithful' movie, mostly to it detriment in the way it did it. Being way too tell and too little show. Which makes it difrented from adaption like say I Robot
Gone with the Wind (& The Help) depicts history. Plus they are legendary Oscar wins for African American actors. We shouldn’t erase that. They’re not negative or racist portrayals. I agree on Breakfast at Tiffanys, Pretty In Pink, Aloha, Last Airbender
@@msnewsenior I think the point is, she made the best of a very evil situation. In those days, finding a black person, male or female, in _any_ movie was like finding a diamond ring in a thrift store clearance sale. They were _that_ rare.
⬆️ What you leave out: *she was not allowed to sit at the Gone With the Wind table with Selznick and her nominated white costars.* Don't white wash history.
@@summertyme5748 My apologies. I never meant to whitewash anything. I never even knew that happened. I read in an awards book which said who won the Oscars in particular years, so that is how I know that Hattie McDaniel won it. I never knew the incident you described, and that that happened to her was wrong. I never heard this story before, which is why I didn't mention it.
A lot of these feel like people are being over sensitive and can’t take a joke. God help the quality of future comedies if everything has to be politically correct.
Hindsight is 20/20. Luckily, we have become more self aware to an extent, but I don't agree with canceling any of these. At the time, they had no idea that these were offensive. I'm sure 20 years from now, movies we love are going to be problematic. The difference by then hopefully instead of cancelling, and banning we instead understand it was a different time.
@TheRapper10000 but there is legitimate problems with some media. I think the best option there is to not watch it, if it offends you. Don't decide what others can or can't watch.
That's all some people have is hindsight and making a big deal out of things in the past that nobody can change. It gives them legitimacy in their own mind.
I honestly thought the guy in Short Circuit actually was Indian until I saw this Stiflers character is very realistic. I had friends just like him and come across people like him all the time where I live now No lead characters from white chicks?
What about the way women were treated by stars like Clark Gable, John Wayne, James Cagney, Robert Mitchum... All those dudes treated women like misogynistic Neanderthals who basically told women what to do, say, how to behave, etc... There were some leading men like Gregory Peck, Cary Grant and Jimmy Stewart who seemed to be more kind and respectful of women in their films. Plus, DON’T even get me started on how black actors and actresses were treated during Hollywood’s Golden Age. It was a disgrace. Especially to actresses like Dorothy Dandrige, Lena Horne, Hattie McDaniel, etc... The films they were on treated them like second class citizens, unless the cameras were rolling, then they were treated like royalty.
The John Milton one still works because there are people who are just like that. What shouldn't work is normalizing their toxic, predatory behavior, like some other characters in the list.
Holden McNeil could 100% be played today. His character was of a person who didn't understand, and continued to not understand. Even when it went his way, it wasn't good enough for him. I could understand if he "won" in the end, but he didn't.
Stifflers could still work as a counter-example pretty much like Cobra Kai's Johnny Lawrence cuz let's be real those guys still exist the others reaction to them is what has change and is interresting to see.
If we are saying, that portrayal of a person of another race than the actual historical / described in the book person is wrong ie. "Aloha", "Airbender", ... then why is it not treated uniformly across the board? I see more and more shows trying to introduce people of another race for portrayal of historical people ie. Jodie Turner-Smith portrayal of Anne Boleyn. Where does this come from? Why is it needed to now swing the pendulum the other way, instead of learning from past mistakes and doing things correct and accurate now?
It's still cringe all across the board. People are overlooking it now because they are trying to get even with Hollywood casting white people for all of these decades. But in the end, the authenticity of the movie-going experience is gone because no one wants to be accurate and tell genuine stories. I think Jodie playing Anne Boleyn (which just went too far imo) was because of the popularity of Hamilton. But what works on Broadway doesn't work in film. Honestly, it shouldn't work anywhere because I was uncomfortable with Black people portraying slave masters in Hamilton, too. Hopefully, we start to move over the "Race-bending" and "Cultural-bending" and let movies feel more authentic and high quality.
there was an its always sunny in philadelphia episode which spoofed 80s comedies. at a ski resort, one scene, a male character rips the top off a woman. mac responds, "Dude, i think you just committed sexual assault, not cool."
Breakfast At Tiffany’s is truly unacceptable because at that exact year of 1960 Phillip Ahn, Jack Soo, or Keye Luke could have played the Asian landlord in the film instead of Mickey Rooney. The producers had choices in their casting files.
Though I can't claim to have had my heritage or social status make me the target of offensive or stereotypical portrayals, it occurs to me that many of these roles of the past do anything but glorify such behaviour. For instance, Stifler's actions were certainly offensive, however, he's portrayed as a buffoon and the object of ridicule for doing , very obviously, inane, exaggerated, over-the-top asshattery. My point is that the character is portrayed in such a way, his behaviour is seen as asinine and certainly nothing to be emulated. As the series progresses, the character grows emotionally and becomes something of a flawed but decent human being. I agree that this type of behavior and attitudes need to be addressed, but imo trying to act as if things weren't once that way, is part of the problem. Perhaps, it would be more productive to address the very serious issues of our society's ,apparently, poor self image and lack of any effective coping strategies. We should applaud the progress that we have made,in contrast with how we were.
McDaniels didn't solidify anything. Those slim film characters were the only roles offered to actresses of colour before and after she won the Academy Award.
Unfortunately most of these are just modern teenagers being snowflakes about irrelevant things (like where the hell should they find those “Inuit actors”)
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The real problem with The Last Airbender is that the movie WASN'T The Last Airbender.
@@davidz2808 Tropic Thunder was more of a parody/farce. RDJ's character was a tongue-in-cheek reference to method actors that go to extreme lengths for roles (i.e., Sir Laurence Olivier).
It's getting harder to make films that accurately reflect how reality is in place of what the would "should be." Assholes are real, but now it has to be only specific types. As unfortunate as it is, people are still mysoginistic, racist, sexist, manipulative, etc. It's not about saying these are okay, but to restrict films from having them, at least from villains to intentionally unlikable characters, limits not just the types of movies and characters, but even moral lessons. Now, when talking about casting, yeah, that's something that has to change when you don't want somebody to pretend to be something they aren't. People would have to portray a stereotype of somebody to do it.
People can't handle realism. There are misogynistic/ racist people but certain groups equate this with promoting misogyny or racism unless the character is truly awful. If a good looking likeable character who just happens to be racist is seen as racist because the character is portrayed as handsome/ likeable. In reality people know racists who aren't stereotypical "villains" or ugly etc.
This list made for generally entertaining but “problematic” content in itself because it conflates the two different points that you correctly explain.
I would have put John Wayne playing Genghis Khan on this list because it is just so insane. The whitest man in American playing an Asian conqueror. That is just crazy.
10: Sokka, Katara, & General Iron - The Last Airbender 9: Ben Jabituya - Short Circuit 8: Captain Allison Ng - Aloha 7: Holden McNeil - Chasing Amy 6: John Milton - Scream 3 5: Long Duk Dong - Sixteen Candles 4: Lewis Skolnick & Gilbert Lowe - Revenge of the Nerds 3: Steve Stifler - American Pie 2: Mammy - Gone With the Wind 1: I.Y. Yunioshi - Breakfast at Tiffany's
I don't think anybody cared about natural hair color. I mean, I can never tell you what any female celebrity's natural hair is if they change it so often between blond, brunette, raven, and red/ginger.
When Mo’Nique won a best actress Oscar in 2010 she thanked Hattie McDaniels for enduring everything she did, in effect opening doors for later actors of color to find more meaningful roles.
@@vladimir-savage72 Funny, that sounds racist. You want someone that "looks" Hawaiian? How many Hawaiians do you know? The world is a melting pot now. I know it goes against your narrative, but accept it.
@@RainyDayWolf But would it have made the movie better? That's all that matters. (I haven't seen Aloha, so I can't comment on that aspect of it). but this is a dumb discussion.
The character from Scream 3 could definitely work now because it's social commentary. Written in the right way by the right people that character could be a horrifyingly truthful representation of the worst that the entertainment industry is full of. The issue is that it was produced by Weinstein, that's the tone deaf, disgusting problem here.
Historically, actors/actresses have always been regarded as little better than prostitutes. There were reasons for that. It is only recently that the Cult of Celebrity has been portraying these people as someone to emulate...
Sixteen Candles is such a terrible movie. I could see it being redone today in a much more tactful way and being great, but it sucks. The Geek is an entitled and generally creepy kid, Long Duk Dong is arguably one of the most racists portrayals of an Asian character EVER, the grandparents were also weird and racist, and... yeah it sucks.
This is where Hollywood need's to stop making role giving for White Washing them. PLZ give more diversity in these movies. Even making more woman have the lead role.
or you know, instead of diversity you just make...sensible good movies that doesn't need to pander but simply are good on their own merit and logically contain the entirety of human existence.
@@hpfan2007 Of course, pandering is when you do box checking, just doing a movie that includes it cause it is relevant and makes a compelling story within the story is making a good movie with it.
So it’s okay if a Hawaiian person doesn’t look Hawaiian, but it’s bad if someone that doesn’t look Hawaiian plays a Hawaiian that’s not supposed to look Hawaiian? 🤷🏼♂️
@@RainyDayWolf For a lead role in a romantic comedy, a genre that is almost entirely dependent on star power? No, wrong, they couldn't have. Films have to make money. Hardly anyone goes to see a romantic comedy unless both actors are well known, preferably A-list stars. They cast Emma Stone because she's a great actress and people like her and will pay to see her. Cast an unknown who "looks the part," and you will make far less money. That's not racism. That's business economics.
Isn't it amazing how moving from realism or a good story to being cultaral sensitive at the cost of everything else is seen as improvment. It is even better when the intent or context behind many of these characters being the way they are is just ignored.
Honorable mentions: John Wayne as Genghis Khan Georgia Moll as Phuong (The Quiet American, 1958) Laurence Olivier as Othello Decent of Hollywood to have cast Adam Beach as Ben Yahzee and Ira Hayes, though
Agreed, that’s part of the character , he’s suppose to be a high school douche who is still acting like a jerk in the 2nd movie . He shouldn’t be so high on the list with many of the racist characters in movie history .
I don’t see the problem with, “Aloha” if it’s based on a real person. I’m 1/4 Japanese and 1/4 French Canadian (ancestors were built like tanks) no one would guess that by looking at me. Seems like you’re the one being insensitive in that case “Ms Mojo”
We'll just ignore the fact that she was playing a real person that also didn't look "Asian" -- And just btw, using "Asian" for everyone from Turkey to Japan is pretty damned insulting and dehumanising on its own...
If Emma Stone can't play Ng because she isn't Asian, and if the Avatar cast is problematic for the same reason, then I fail to understand how Hamilton isn't just as problematic. Either race matters or it doesn't. I'm all for being accurate in how characters are portrayed on screen and stage. But that has to go both ways. Whitewashing is terrible (looking at you, Mickey Rooney), but you don't get equality by permitting the same behavior in the other direction. Either we abandon any casting standards, or they apply for everyone. The accent thing is logically possible in Johnny 5. If the parents spoke their native language in the home, children often grow up with accents. That said, a white guy putting on a Hindi affectation is dumb as hell.
Historical footnote: Hattie (from “Gone With the Wind”) was one of the models for the “Aunt Jemimah” character on pancakes, biscuits and maple syrup products that was only recently retired from supermarket shelves in America. You might find some of those commercials still on TH-cam.
Surprised that Peter Sellers Indian character from "The Party" is not on this list. Is it because Sellers was a genius and his performance is both hilarious and dignified?
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He was comedic but also a good guy, helping with everything he could and trying not to be a problem in a party that half of the people was nuts. I think that's why he is not in the list.
@WiLD CHiLD Tropic Thunder was trying to show how Hollywood casts white people to play brown roles. It wasn't an offensive sterotype or anything, they were actually highlighting and sorta parodying blackface.
But no one seems to be upset that Morgan Freeman played a Irishman in Shawshank! Reason-He was the best actor for the role but the same courtesy can't be extended to actors with paler skin tone. Weird!
I think, they used to cast roles just based on your acting ability. Now, they look for everything else. Also, Steve (Stifler) would be exactly the same if the American Pie franchise was made now.
WHAT? Attaining career success through MERIT? We can't have that! You're only allowed to be successful if you're "non-binary", "trans", "Black" or something else that ISN'T white! "Wypepo" are always evil!
My conclusion? People have became too emotional over the slightest most irrelevant things. Many can barely make ends meet and they rage about things such as what fictional characters are played by what race/colored actors, being only one exampe. The idiocy is mind boggling and still keeps reaching ever greater heights.
You said in the video that Emma Stone was portraying a real life person who was 1/4 Chinese, and 1/4 Hawaiian who didn't resemble they're heritage. If she is playing a real life person she should resemble the real person, not your imagined perception of what the person SHOULD look like based on their heritage. So since she didn't look like her heritage, should the real person not claim that part of their heritage? Given the fact that I am Irish and Dutch, but I have no Dutch characteristics should I just claim to be Irish and not acknowledge my Dutch ancestry?
I would have also put Butterfly McQueen's Prissy alongside Mammy. (Hey, no reason two characters can't take up one slot on a list like this.) While Prissy was a very different character from Mammy, she also played into a lot of prejudiced tropes, and the roles had similar effects on the portrayal of African-American characters for years.
I remember being deeply offended by the Rob Schneider character the "Asian Minister" in I Now Pronounce You Chuck & Larry. Not that this was a highly rated movie, but 14 years later I still remember the feeling I got after watching it once.
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The John Milton character is meant to be a villian in "Scream 3", so while it is creepy what he said, he is playing a creep.
i agree, too bad and spoiler alert, that Roman killed his possible father.
Much like Stifler from American Pie, his character was meant to be a douche.
As an Asian Australian I felt this way about Emma Stone’s Aloha Character..... until I gave birth to my red haired blue eyed ethnically 1/4 Chinese son. Rare but not impossible.
ikr, it’s so ridiculous because they said the person the character was based on looked different as well
@@loeysgalaxy6283 i kinda feel like it was racist to put her character on this list, cuz essentially the argument is even though her character canonically doesn't look at all like her heritage and is being portrayed to reflect that its still wrong because she doesn't look Hawaiin or chinese enough. and to me that's wrong, that's not any better. its like saying you can only boast about your ethnicity as long as you look stereotypically ethnic enough.
@@littlekaren1551 But it's not like that, the video even said so herself. It wouldn't matter if she didn't look 'hawaian' or 'chinese', the fact of the matter is, she isn't of any of those backgrounds. So it would have been better to cast a partly hawaian or asian person to play this role, even if they didn't look like it at all. So If they would have taken a hawaian/chinese girl with maybe red hair and blue eyes, their would be no problem. Stone is fully white/american. So it just doesn't feel right to let her play the role of someone with a different heritage. It has nothing to do with her looks.
@@VirtualVixen. I'm all for casting an actor that is accurate to the character ethnically and looks wise. but you also have to cast in a way that keeps true to who the character is as a person. Allison Ng was proud of her heritage, but looked nothing liked it, therefore constantly bragged about it so poeple would know she was Hawaiian, and chinese. as Danielle Louise pointed out a chinese kid coming out with red hair and blue eyes is rare, it would've been rarer to find a chinese with that description with the right age. what would they have done if they couldn't find someone like that? because casting an asian or Hawaiian because they are that heritage despite looking nothing like her would have made half of her personality/behavior pointless, weird, and bizarre. she wouldn't act that way at all, because there would be no point. and her character is a lesson how can't you judge a book by its cover. you don't always look like your heritage, despite what your genetics actually are. case in point poeple have confused my stepdad as my bio-dad, cuz we look a bit alike. we have no commonality in our ethnicity/genetics.
plus, which made it more cringey? the fact that's she's not ethnically the same as the character or that emma stone's white? would there have been a fuss if her character was dark skinned and being portrayed by a dark skinned actor who was not the same ethnicity? probably not when you consider how often darker skinned minorities portray native americans on TV despite not being native american and no one ever talks about that.
Scream 3 character should exist today because there are people like that
But I still wish it didn’t.... not cuz of the Weinstein character, just because it’s a terrible movie.
Henriksen's character was supposed to be a douchebag. If anything, someone being totally up front about the Weinstein-esque behavior was ahead of its time. Yes, it's uncomfortable, but that was the point. Heaven forbid we show a modicum of honesty regarding the ugly truths of life.
@@davidrich27 Nope. Decent movie. Gets way more hate than warranted.
@@925263 Well, glad somebody likes it.
I completely agree. The movie was clearly calling out the industry here. They weren't glorifying him. The movie "wouldn't work today" if he were the protagonist we are supposed to be rooting for, but that's not what this character is. He is clearly written as a villain of the story (albeit a secondary villain to the Ghostface Killer). If anything, this would work even better today because we know it's an accurate depiction of how scummy Hollywood can be.
Lance Henriksen's character was portrayed as a villain though. They weren't condoning him. And Stifler was meant to be a douche and unlikeable
That's what I thought. You can't just censor ideas of what's in reality. Otherwise, you don't get to present a way to challenge them.
My thoughts exactly.
You know, in these days even killers, terrorists, thieves, cult leaders, sexual predators must be in movies shown as woke and progresive. Antagonist who is culturally sensitvie and progresive is atagonist of modern age.
Good points
@@mogshade66 Very original, attacking age. What will be next, grammar? I am married, so probably old enough to watch adult movies. If you think age is only merit for having an opinion.
Maybe if you think before attacking someone, you will notice that it is irony. Because those characters are supposed to be bad and they shown them as "not fit for modern times movies"? It is crazy.
Yes, Woke is disgusting term for extremists who take it too much to left. I am liberal, but normal, not extremist and normal people can´t agree with those extremists who want to cancel everything they don´t like, who criticize 50 years old movies (like if they don´t know how time works and that perception of things is changed in time), who want quotas and no creative freedom.
Because if writers/ directors can´t use any characters they want, but have to have characters that are in line with some agenda, then it is not creativity, but propaganda - which is thing for dictatorship countries.
In separate post I wrote this. Maybe it will help you understand what I was meaning.
8. Why? Because Hawaians are racist and would not allow white people to live among them, to marry, take husband name and be raised as hawaians?
It is bad to be proud hawaian and not looking like one? So if you move to other country and lives there for long time, or you are raised in that country, you can´t take it as your home? You can´t be proud on that country? You know that there are some black people who are proud Russians? Do you considter this also racist? Or cultural insensitive?
7. So if she is gay it is OK. But if she found out she is bisexual, it is bad? You know that in movies improbable thing happens all the time?
6. So you saing that bad people can´t be in movies? So no killers, invasive aliens, nothing? Only positive characters? Because he wasn´t show as good guy in Scream. Or even antagonist needs to be woke?
5. So you sayng that asians are only one type of people, smart and resourceful. All other depcitions are wrong? There are no variations?
3. Stiffler - OK? And what? He isn´t main character, he isn´t role model. Same as your point in Scream. If you want only positive characters in movie, than we will have very weak movies when there is no stakes at anything because there aren´t any bad, stupid, or creepy characters.
When it comes to Hattie McDaniel as Mammy, I agree with the role never working today in our PC world. According to Wikipedia, she had this to say when it came to people criticizing her choices for roles in other movies like Disney's "Song of the South":
"Why should I complain about making $700 a week playing a maid? If I didn't, I'd be making $7 a week being one."
Gotta respect that woman.
@@marcuscollins949 Dignity doesn't pay the bills.
@@dhenderson1810 Amen
@@marcuscollins949 I’m sure as a black woman in the 1930’s you know all about it.
@@marcuscollins949 Not exactly great film roles for dark skinned black women in 2021 let alone 1939. "Precious" is about as good as it gets. Noone will cast a dark skinned black women as a (romantic) lead in a mainstream Hollywood production unless it's based on a book/ real life person with a dark skinned black women character. And even then if the character is positive (supposed to be easy going, light hearted, slim, smart/ intelligent, ambitious, attractive, talented, witty, charming, whimsical) they'll cast a lighter skinned actress
@@michelleannor6944 Now we have progressed to where black people can play historically black characters but white people are limited to only playing white people. I'm surprised Yul Brynner never got mentioned a Russian gypsy who played an Egyptian royalty, a Siamese King - pretty much any nationality but Russian.
I'm a bit forgiving when comes to Mammy. Honestly, speaking as Black Caribbean man, a lot of our grandmothers, great-aunts and so on were in that role of working for others and doing what they can to survive. Mammy had to put on a smile because she's smart enough to know that in that time, an unhappy maid is an ex-maid. The smile hid all the pain and suffering but also showed the strength and wisdom she accumulated over the years. Yes, we have evolved past that time. However, to deny it is to deny what has made us stronger and brought us to where we are. You can complain about the past or learn from it. I choose to learn from it.
Ummm no. Mammy has no real life ambitions or goals. She exists solely for those around her and has her feminine traits completely stripped away. As a black woman that’s insulting.
@@msnewsenior To YOU, she has no goals. To anyone else who's aware of the time, there's only so much a woman of color can do IN THAT TIMEFRAME. Just because someone is doing what they can at the time does not that's all they can do if given more opportunity. Unfortunately, Mammy lived where that was all that ALLOWED for her to do. Therefore, she did what she could.
@@PHSDM104 No. she literally had no goals. If she did name them in detail please.
@@msnewsenior Better question is what makes you an expert to say she has none?
@@PHSDM104 If they’re not provided then she doesn’t have any. It’s not rocket science. She’s a caricature portrayed in tv and films and never has any goals and exists only for the family she serves. That’s the literal definition of the stereotype 🤦🏽♀️
While most of John Hughes' movies still hold up extraordinarily well, a lot of things have NOT aged well. Namely, the casual sexism, racist and homophobia has NOT held up, and the only minority character in "Sixteen Candles" is used as the butt of the joke.
Worse, the character of Long Duk Dong could have been eliminated from "Sixteen Candles" altogether and Samantha's story would have remained in tact. He serves no purpose in the plot. Why is he even there?
@@kelleyceccato7025 Comic relief. Not good comic relief, but that was the intent. There's a lot of throw away characters in movies. He stands out because of the shitty stereotypes.
@@kelleyceccato7025 Yes, he doesn't affect the plot.
@@edbangor9163 Even if his character hadn't been a stereotype, he'd still have been almost pointless & provided very little entertainment value.
Fun fact: the actor who plays Long Duk Dong also provided the voice of Ling in the original Disney Mulan film of 1998. Talk about going from one mildly notable character to a more iconic one.
This list is loaded with flaws in logic. Milton and Stifler are supposed to be dirt bags -- that's the point. Ms Mojo doesn't get it.
the racism towards asians is so sever yet not many talk about it
Not all Asians just Chinese
@@crimsonmoonrise9785 No, East Asia. Not just Chinese people
But it is a been a problem
Racism against all people of color in media is still prevalent
They get cast as caricatures. They get cast as stereotypes. They don't even get auditions in the first place.
Sure, things are getting a little better but the fact that in the 2000s & 2010s, movies like the last airbender and aloha were allowed to happen or that the actors even signed on, that's a problem.
@@alexanderhamilton8971 given that you brought up this divisive comment, maybe you _are_ apart of the problem.
Thank you for NOT including Robert Downey, Jr's role as Sgt. Lincoln Osiris in Tropic Thunder. I hate when that one is included in lists like this because it was done beautifully, respectfully and with dead-on accuracy while remaining satire.
It was also a satire on method actors who go to far. Which I'm not going to lie might have been something some random method actor might have done either in the past or still might do in the future
@@silentassason Totally agree.
All this talk of changing the movies, books, and other items of the past needs to stop because, if we can't remember where we've been how do we know where we're going. And also " Those that cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it" - Santayana
I don’t think people are asking for past movies and books to change. The thing is that it is still difficult to see good representation for minorities in current media. I wouldn’t mind all the bad representation if there was a lot more good gay, Asian, black, etc characters.
agreed
This whole video is about pointing out the things we did wrong in the past so we don't do them again.
No one is saying to go back and change them..... They're saying hey let's not do this anymore 🤦🏾♀️🙄 We don't need to keep praising the things we're not supposed to do to know not to do them.
Do you have to keep touching a burner on the stove while it's on to know that it's going to burn you🤔
Stifler isn't depicted as a hero or role model. What type of character should have been in his place?
He was perfect.
@@kingeatking Yes, ideal for his part in the film.
Agreed. And I am a woman, but that was supposed to be his role and his character is supposed to be hated
Agree! Actually American Pie foresaw trends which were nearly absurd at the time and came to reality now. For instance, the very scene depicted in the video on broadcasting Nadia over the internet: "what am I gonna do? broadcast her over the internet?". The answer is unfortunately yes too often.
First of all, he was a character that the audience was meant to be endeared--that's why he's part of the main cast and they made all the marketing material about him, remember? The other aspect is that, because he was not an antagonist and not a character who is served poetically by his behavior in anyway, we realize now how that *normalizes* the behavior as "not that big a deal." Which you're kinda' proving right now.
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I believe the producer character in scream 3 would still work today but the writers would add more depth and commentary on rape culture that has been ingrained within the Hollywood culture.
That character already seemed like a step in the right direction, but I agree with you that another character like that should be portrayed in a way that goes more into depth about the problems with people like that, in general, along with that problem still persisting in Hollywood, to this day.
The fact that The Last Airbender is on the list implies that the characters worked in the first place. Do not get an Avatar fan started. Just, don't.
Exactly! They didn't work THEN!!!
@@PHSDM104 Exactly!!!
I liked the movie, but everyone says that they agree for me recieving death threats from the Avatar fandom. Let's see if the Avatar fandom will literally kill me if I would like the Netflix one
Came here to say the same thing.
"Times are changing for the better?" Are they serious?? You mean how people are getting so easily offended by everything to the point where others are afraid to even speak, because they're afraid of being called a racist, or a bigot? Or even getting trashed online or sued? Yeah.... sounds waaaayyyyyy better.
the cancel culture needs to be canceled itself
There have always people who've been afraid to say or do something edgy because they or their livelihood would suffer for it ... totally guessing here, but you're offended because white men are starting to get a hint of what that's like, right?
I mean, hey, you do you. But some day when you've worked beyond the knee-jerk defensiveness, you should give some serious thought about why people bring this stuff up. It's not about cancel culture -- most of that is manufactured outrage. And it isn't actually about oppressing you. It mostly boils down to: don't be a dick. Funny how hard that is for so many people ...
couldn't have said it better myself
@martinez.z thing are not getting better they are getting worse. Since when does stopping freedom of speech a better thing., we are heading into a dictatorship.
@martinez.z Yes, that is an improvement, and that's the point. Too many are telling us that life in the US is full of oppression, racism, and misery for minorities and that no progress has been made. As you correctly point out, a lot of progress HAS been made in racial equality and advancement, and not just in the fact that no one gets lynched. That's the easy one. That's why we are sick of being told how terrible life is for minorities. Because it is NOTHING like it was 50, 100, years ago. What Scott Pore is talking about is the new world replacing it, and he is right too - it is getting worse. So - you're both right.
Along with "Chasing Amy" and "Gigli", Ben Affleck has a history of trying to turn lesbian women straight - or at least bi
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Yeah, not sure if he likes those roles.
Isn't that kinda the problem?
Isn't that kinda the problem?
He's convinced his dick is magic. Doesn't take a genius to figure that one out.
"She was based on a real person who looked nothing like her ancestry, but ignorant people don't want to acknowledge that's a thing so they decided to be offended for shits and giggles."
You see, now I don't need to type that exact thing you just wrote. I also still have some hope for the humanity.
100%, the funniest part of this whole video.
I was with them until they mentioned that the person she was portraying looked about as much like her ancestry as the actress that played her. That one is a big stretch.
So find a person of her ancestry who looks white. Is that really that hard to understand?
@@ascent8487 Shirley, you can't be serious.
Clearly the narrator has never scen Chasing Amy because Alyssa explains that she is actually bisexual and only identified as a lesbian because of not wanting to conform. Jesus
Like Emma Stone regretting her role, I bet Ben Affleck looks back on this role with guilt and shame.
Which is a bit ironic... Alyssa didn't want to conform so she defines herself by "conforming" to a specific sexual identity which is not accurate. Maybe she doesn't know what "conform" actually means. In her defense, though, the term "sexually fluid" didn't exist back then, or at least was not widely used or understood.
Look back even further to the 70s and the tv series "Soap". Jodie (played by Billy Crystal) identified as gay, but most of the evidence from the show pointed toward bi with a slight preference for men.
She literally spoke about it being about love in the movie
@@roguejester4986 Why should he? It was a deeply thought-provoking story about the perils of rigid roles in sexuality and the unfairness of slut-shaming.
@@princessstomper8068 Because people should not pursue those who are just not that into you, regardless of her sexuality. I get what you are saying but when a female and a male say they are homosexual, people of the opposite gender of them should not insist on a relationship there.
I still think there was some badassery that leaked through in Patty McDaniel's role in Gone With the Wind. That movie is a product of its times and has all the terrible problems that you would expect, but McDaniel imbued her character with shrewed intelligence and grit in spite of all the racism.
Hattie, not Patty
YO IT WAS DECADES BEFORE I REALIZED THE INDIAN DUDE IN SHORT CIRCUIT WASNT INDIAN!!!
I was today years old when I realized that the actor is Fisher Stevens. I was just a kid when I watched.
Yeah it was one of my favourite movies as a kid too. Definitely hasn't aged well.
I had no idea until now. I am shook.
That's because he was good at playing a role. And the idea that he's from Bakersfield and his parents from Pittsburgh is funny. Lighten up Mojo!
Pro tip: The word “sensitive” is often equated with weakness (i.e., it has a negative connotation), so most people are not going to care if you call them “insensitive.” If anything, they’ll take it as a compliment or feel more powerful. Using words like disrespectful, inconsiderate, thoughtless, rude, etc. might help get the point across better.
It's a generational gap problem
@@lexkanyima2195 not necessarily. This applies to people from all generations. It’s just not quite as bad with the younger generations as it used to be (aside from heightened tensions on social media, in politics, etc between people with opposing views)
@@NatalieMarie917 but it lacked the message what is all about
You're right. Sensitive = easier to get hurt. Who wants to get hurt?
What's with Americans' obsession with strength?
I didn't know the actor who played Ben in short circuit was played by a wight actor I genuinely thought the actor was an Indian actor
A lot of us had.
Fisher Stevens. According to Wikipedia, he's Jewish.
*white
@@toddnolastname4485 that’s still white.
I didn't know that either
Ah, the 90s and early 2000s. I remember loving american pie! I still quote it a lot... I wanna go back in time!! Who remembers blink 182 and less than jake in the 90s? So much fun
interesting that at the beginning they say things have gotten better yet, we are in the middle of a post apocalyptic movie. We have a pandemic that is requiring us to wear masks and distance ourselves, we are dealing with a political system that is divided, disconnected from the general public, ineffective and unliked. Small businesses are shutting down. People are forced to take gig jobs shuttling customers who don't have cars but have more than enough to pay those with cars to chauffer them around. So we live in a culture where you can't make a joke without offending anyone. Even if you resemble the actual person who is a quarter Hawaiin you can't do so if you are not a Hawaiin with the proper stereotypical appearance? Our music is all computer generated, devoid of musicians, instruments and soul. Our television shows are lame, low budget, season long reunion specials of what our parents watched. Our movies are reboots retelling the same origin stories to characters who have been well established for decades.
I;m really lost as to what is getting better.
I remember the 90s and early 2000s! I miss those days very much. The American Pie movies are my favorites. I also remember Blink 182. My favorite song from that group is All The Small Things. I love how catchy that song is.
@@conniethesconnie yup, Ms. Mojo only speaks for herself when she declares that absurd idea.
Movies were far better back in the 90s than today. No comparison. They hardly even make any original films today. Back then they made them all the time.
"Times are changing for the better" - I had to stop right there. Things are NOT going in a forward direction.
Perhaps you could do Top 10 Animated Movie Characters that Wouldn't Work Today
Pepe le pew would be one of them. 🦨
The Siamese cats - Lady and the Tramp
The crows - Dumbo
Jafar - Aladdin
@@grayshigami6797 Jafar? Why him?
@@jonnyboy4289 He wanted to marry Jasmine
@@grayshigami6797 A lot of age gap different people want to marry many people in the older movies and shows . Would be too much
I wouldn't call fake virtuesignalling,heavy censorship,forced diversity,toxic inclusion,straight white man BAD,and actors/actresses to "STAY IN YOUR LANE" getting better.
You have a point. Change is good but you cant go crazy and force it.
Totally agree. Movies and shows are getting much worse at actually being fun, entertaining, original, and creative, because they are too obsessed with pushing all the buttons to be sure no one gets offended. "In the Heights" is the latest and stupidest example of this. The guy makes a movie with a totally diverse cast about his neighborhood, and then gets criticized because someone sat there counting the number of 'Afro-Latinos' in the cast and didn't see enough of them.
I feel like John Milton is the perfect depiction of higher-ups in Hollywood! The character is absolutely horrendous but it's the truth and I think they did a wonderful job with it! More characters should be "real".
Thing about Gone with the Wind. Is the book was written many years ago, before the movie about the civil war and the book highlights all injustices at the time.
I wouldn't blame Mcdaniels for black people being forced to play servile roles in early hollywood. I would blame racism as a whole. Even if gone with the wind was never made, which might have been for the better frankly, white people of the 30s, 40s 50s and 60s would still have been too racist to put african Americans in any roles other than those of servants.
The producer of the film, David O. Selznick, knew how racist the original book was and wanted to avoid the extreme stereotypes as much as possible compared to films that were made before "Gone with the Wind". He wanted to represent the black actors with as much dignity as he could since he was Jewish and was thinking of the Jewish populations in Nazi Europe at the time. I can say that Selznick achieved that partially.
No one in 1930 was going to cast a (dark skinned) black woman in any other role than Mammy/ slave/ servant etc. Get real.
Sure, it's ok for a plastic nobody like you to demonize everyone from past just to suit the empty feeling inside you.
You know very little about film history. The 50s and 60s? Have you not seen Raisin in the Sun? In the Heat of the Night? Those are the years Sidney Poitier broke into A-list status. He was the pioneer, and he started in the 50s. And he did NOT play servants. So, you're completely and 100% wrong. Do some research before posting nonsense like this.
It also might amaze you that Gone With the Wind isn't about racism, the Civil War, or the South. That's not what the story is about. Have you actually seen it? It's about Scarlett, and her selfish inability to relate well to people, even ones who care about her. It's about her and Rhett Butler. It's art. It's an epic, and it revolutionized the film industry in ways that still affect us today. And, it's also a product of its time.
You had to open up with The Last Airbender, I had that movie erased from my memory lol
It’s weird why they casted white actors for Asian characters.
racism
Nowadays, they made Black People played a character who supposed to be White
@@margarethmichelina5146 Yeah, I heard that a black "actress" named Halle Bailey was cast as Ariel in the upcoming live-action animated film of Little Mermaid. Or so I heard.
@@amierulbaharin765 Mermaids aren't *automatically* white, though. Ariel looked like ME!! I got over it, lol. STILL not thrilled about "Annie". That was just lame, period.
@@widowrumstrypze9705 I know that mermaids aren't "automatically" white. It's just that they need to be loyal to the original animated film. I'm okay if they make a separate film that's not in any way related to the animated The Little Mermaid but since it does, they just need to stay loyal to the original film. I'm not racist though, I'm just a very devoted fan of Disney films.
Phoebe: *We will not be including characters in animated films on this list, because they deserve a list all their own.*
If it's the tv show, it's gonna be Apu at #1.
Am I the only one who'd say that Kevin's or Jim's characters were more problematic than Stifler? In contrast to Stifler those were the guys you were supposed to root for.
He *raped* that poor pie! no consent!
@@bongmeester what he did to Nadia was worse
Ok but the scream 3, thing was part of the satire style of scream. By that point it had been know that the industry was like that but not proven. So the writer was calling it out in the movie.
Oh, it was proven. It was an open secret to anyone who paid attention and wasn't in the "Hollywood Scene". If you were part of that scene, you were involved in it.
"...By that point it had been know..." It was known in the 50s. For that matter, judging by older films I've seen, it was known in the 1930s. The "casting couch" has existed as long as Hollywood. Why do you think actors/actresses were considered little better than prostitutes for most of human history?
I find the whole mammy gone with the wind part to be adding to the problem. You side blamed Hattie McDaniel for society. Her role in the movie is doubtfully why black actors were locked into these roles. That era was heavy with segregation and I would highly doubt her playing this role and winning an award caused that.
Oh yes, segregation was legally allowed and practiced often.
Hattie McDaniel won an Oscar for her role!
And she wasn't even allowed to come in the theater through the front entrance, and was made to go around the back of the building through the service entrance and walk through the kitchen in her beautiful gown and dress heels just to get to her seat!!!
And yet there were members of the cast including Clark Gabel that stood up for her. We look at her with shame when she broke barriers and fought. We are so ungrateful.
The real character that wouldn’t make it today is Courtney Cox’s haircut in Scream 3.
Jamaican dread giving you a shout out 8763767881
:The Last Airbender" also wasn't close to being as good as the series.
As Dominic Noble points out, it is a very 'faithful' movie, mostly to it detriment in the way it did it. Being way too tell and too little show. Which makes it difrented from adaption like say I Robot
Gone with the Wind (& The Help) depicts history. Plus they are legendary Oscar wins for African American actors. We shouldn’t erase that. They’re not negative or racist portrayals.
I agree on Breakfast at Tiffanys, Pretty In Pink, Aloha, Last Airbender
Didn't Hattie McDaniel say that it was better to play a maid in movies and get paid a lot of money, than to be a maid in real life?
She also got an Oscar out of it, and became the first person of color to do so.
Yeah but black people shouldn’t be regulated to maid/service roles. Name the rest of her films that she starred in....it’s kinda hard isn’t it?
@@msnewsenior I think the point is, she made the best of a very evil situation. In those days, finding a black person, male or female, in _any_ movie was like finding a diamond ring in a thrift store clearance sale. They were _that_ rare.
⬆️ What you leave out: *she was not allowed to sit at the Gone With the Wind table with Selznick and her nominated white costars.*
Don't white wash history.
@@summertyme5748 My apologies. I never meant to whitewash anything.
I never even knew that happened. I read in an awards book which said who won the Oscars in particular years, so that is how I know that Hattie McDaniel won it.
I never knew the incident you described, and that that happened to her was wrong. I never heard this story before, which is why I didn't mention it.
This list should be called "Top 10 Movie Characters That Shouldn't Happen Today." Half of these would definitely would "work" now and happen again.
Soul man would not work today because of blackface.
Omg yes!!! I wonder why it’s not brought up more bc it crosses my mind a LOT!
Weird how people thought it would be a good thing to put such a stupid thing into a movie.
Then it's a good thing I haven't seen the movie
Probably because it never really got popular outside of the 80s crowd, these choices are obviously based on popular movies.
A lot of these feel like people are being over sensitive and can’t take a joke. God help the quality of future comedies if everything has to be politically correct.
Have you seen SNL now compared to the 90s? Thats your modern PC humor now.
Jamaican dread giving you a shout out 8763767881
So true there's so much ''censorship'' nowdays
Hindsight is 20/20. Luckily, we have become more self aware to an extent, but I don't agree with canceling any of these. At the time, they had no idea that these were offensive. I'm sure 20 years from now, movies we love are going to be problematic. The difference by then hopefully instead of cancelling, and banning we instead understand it was a different time.
@TheRapper10000 I'm a woman, and it's not just women it's a lot of ppl. Mainly Twitter. People who have nothing better to do than complain.
@TheRapper10000 but there is legitimate problems with some media. I think the best option there is to not watch it, if it offends you. Don't decide what others can or can't watch.
Preach!
That's all some people have is hindsight and making a big deal out of things in the past that nobody can change. It gives them legitimacy in their own mind.
I honestly thought the guy in Short Circuit actually was Indian until I saw this
Stiflers character is very realistic. I had friends just like him and come across people like him all the time where I live now
No lead characters from white chicks?
What about the way women were treated by stars like Clark Gable, John Wayne, James Cagney, Robert Mitchum... All those dudes treated women like misogynistic Neanderthals who basically told women what to do, say, how to behave, etc... There were some leading men like Gregory Peck, Cary Grant and Jimmy Stewart who seemed to be more kind and respectful of women in their films. Plus, DON’T even get me started on how black actors and actresses were treated during Hollywood’s Golden Age. It was a disgrace. Especially to actresses like Dorothy Dandrige, Lena Horne, Hattie McDaniel, etc... The films they were on treated them like second class citizens, unless the cameras were rolling, then they were treated like royalty.
But it was predictable
The John Milton one still works because there are people who are just like that. What shouldn't work is normalizing their toxic, predatory behavior, like some other characters in the list.
Ya gotta love the passion they have for their work.
I agree, despite popular belief, they NEVER seem to run out of ideas! 😂
Holden McNeil could 100% be played today. His character was of a person who didn't understand, and continued to not understand. Even when it went his way, it wasn't good enough for him. I could understand if he "won" in the end, but he didn't.
Yeah there still people like that today but sadly gen z don't want to see it.
Stifflers could still work as a counter-example pretty much like Cobra Kai's Johnny Lawrence cuz let's be real those guys still exist the others reaction to them is what has change and is interresting to see.
I immediately thought of Rooney when I saw this title. Not gonna fly today. Rex Harrison did the same thing in Anna and the King of Siam 1946.
If we are saying, that portrayal of a person of another race than the actual historical / described in the book person is wrong ie. "Aloha", "Airbender", ... then why is it not treated uniformly across the board? I see more and more shows trying to introduce people of another race for portrayal of historical people ie. Jodie Turner-Smith portrayal of Anne Boleyn. Where does this come from?
Why is it needed to now swing the pendulum the other way, instead of learning from past mistakes and doing things correct and accurate now?
It's still cringe all across the board. People are overlooking it now because they are trying to get even with Hollywood casting white people for all of these decades. But in the end, the authenticity of the movie-going experience is gone because no one wants to be accurate and tell genuine stories. I think Jodie playing Anne Boleyn (which just went too far imo) was because of the popularity of Hamilton. But what works on Broadway doesn't work in film. Honestly, it shouldn't work anywhere because I was uncomfortable with Black people portraying slave masters in Hamilton, too. Hopefully, we start to move over the "Race-bending" and "Cultural-bending" and let movies feel more authentic and high quality.
there was an its always sunny in philadelphia episode which spoofed 80s comedies. at a ski resort, one scene, a male character rips the top off a woman. mac responds, "Dude, i think you just committed sexual assault, not cool."
Breakfast At Tiffany’s is truly unacceptable because at that exact year of 1960 Phillip Ahn, Jack Soo, or Keye Luke could have played the Asian landlord in the film instead of Mickey Rooney. The producers had choices in their casting files.
I think it was a post-war dig at the Japanese tbh
Though I can't claim to have had my heritage or social status make me the target of offensive or stereotypical portrayals, it occurs to me that many of these roles of the past do anything but glorify such behaviour. For instance, Stifler's actions were certainly offensive, however, he's portrayed as a buffoon and the object of ridicule for doing , very obviously, inane, exaggerated, over-the-top asshattery. My point is that the character is portrayed in such a way, his behaviour is seen as asinine and certainly nothing to be emulated. As the series progresses, the character grows emotionally and becomes something of a flawed but decent human being. I agree that this type of behavior and attitudes need to be addressed, but imo trying to act as if things weren't once that way, is part of the problem. Perhaps, it would be more productive to address the very serious issues of our society's ,apparently, poor self image and lack of any effective coping strategies. We should applaud the progress that we have made,in contrast with how we were.
McDaniels didn't solidify anything. Those slim film characters were the only roles offered to actresses of colour before and after she won the Academy Award.
I think some of these would work due to how fed up people are with cancel culture. Personally I like all of these movies just the way they are.
I do too. People today take things way to serious. Many others still like these films but don't want to admit it
Unfortunately most of these are just modern teenagers being snowflakes about irrelevant things (like where the hell should they find those “Inuit actors”)
The real problem with The Last Airbender is that the movie WASN'T The Last Airbender.
How the hell did soul man not make the top 10?
It's a white character who blacks up, rather than a white actor playing a non-white character. Same goes for Tropic Thunder.
@@davidz2808 Tropic Thunder was more of a parody/farce. RDJ's character was a tongue-in-cheek reference to method actors that go to extreme lengths for roles (i.e., Sir Laurence Olivier).
Maybe for the ending?
It's getting harder to make films that accurately reflect how reality is in place of what the would "should be." Assholes are real, but now it has to be only specific types. As unfortunate as it is, people are still mysoginistic, racist, sexist, manipulative, etc. It's not about saying these are okay, but to restrict films from having them, at least from villains to intentionally unlikable characters, limits not just the types of movies and characters, but even moral lessons.
Now, when talking about casting, yeah, that's something that has to change when you don't want somebody to pretend to be something they aren't. People would have to portray a stereotype of somebody to do it.
People can't handle realism.
There are misogynistic/ racist people but certain groups equate this with promoting misogyny or racism unless the character is truly awful. If a good looking likeable character who just happens to be racist is seen as racist because the character is portrayed as handsome/ likeable.
In reality people know racists who aren't stereotypical "villains" or ugly etc.
This list made for generally entertaining but “problematic” content in itself because it conflates the two different points that you correctly explain.
"...when you don't want somebody to pretend to be something they aren't..."
I would have put John Wayne playing Genghis Khan on this list because it is just so insane. The whitest man in American playing an Asian conqueror. That is just crazy.
10: Sokka, Katara, & General Iron - The Last Airbender
9: Ben Jabituya - Short Circuit
8: Captain Allison Ng - Aloha
7: Holden McNeil - Chasing Amy
6: John Milton - Scream 3
5: Long Duk Dong - Sixteen Candles
4: Lewis Skolnick & Gilbert Lowe - Revenge of the Nerds
3: Steve Stifler - American Pie
2: Mammy - Gone With the Wind
1: I.Y. Yunioshi - Breakfast at Tiffany's
We need a top 10 originally Ginger characters miscast on film.
I don't think anybody cared about natural hair color. I mean, I can never tell you what any female celebrity's natural hair is if they change it so often between blond, brunette, raven, and red/ginger.
Gingers Don't Haves souls
@@brucenatelee MJ (Tom Holland's Spiderman), Iris West, Red Sonya (new movie), ... Do you see the problem?
When Mo’Nique won a best actress Oscar in 2010 she thanked Hattie McDaniels for enduring everything she did, in effect opening doors for later actors of color to find more meaningful roles.
I don't know if times are changing for the better.
Honestly in Oahu there are Hawaiian natives that look hella white.
You're not wrong but that still doesn't change tje fact that they could've gotten someone who looked more the part rather then Emma Stone.
@@vladimir-savage72 Funny, that sounds racist. You want someone that "looks" Hawaiian? How many Hawaiians do you know? The world is a melting pot now. I know it goes against your narrative, but accept it.
No, the point is they could've gotten a Hawaiian actor, period.
@@RainyDayWolf But would it have made the movie better? That's all that matters. (I haven't seen Aloha, so I can't comment on that aspect of it). but this is a dumb discussion.
The character from Scream 3 could definitely work now because it's social commentary. Written in the right way by the right people that character could be a horrifyingly truthful representation of the worst that the entertainment industry is full of. The issue is that it was produced by Weinstein, that's the tone deaf, disgusting problem here.
That's a message
Should have named this video "Top 10 Movies that prove society has become a bunch of whiney victims"
The Last Airbender characters and Captain Alison Ng have never even worked back when the movies were first released.
Apparently everyone has forgotten about the 'Casting Couch' that had been in existence before
Historically, actors/actresses have always been regarded as little better than prostitutes. There were reasons for that. It is only recently that the Cult of Celebrity has been portraying these people as someone to emulate...
Sixteen Candles is such a terrible movie. I could see it being redone today in a much more tactful way and being great, but it sucks. The Geek is an entitled and generally creepy kid, Long Duk Dong is arguably one of the most racists portrayals of an Asian character EVER, the grandparents were also weird and racist, and... yeah it sucks.
In regards to the accent thing, I know a kid who had an English accent despite living in Australia because both her parents were English.
Similarly, I know a woman who was born in the US but has a Lebanese accent, as both her parents came from that country.
This is where Hollywood need's to stop making role giving for White Washing them. PLZ give more diversity in these movies. Even making more woman have the lead role.
or you know, instead of diversity you just make...sensible good movies that doesn't need to pander but simply are good on their own merit and logically contain the entirety of human existence.
@@EmperorZelos YEP,That is true.
@@EmperorZelos how is it pandering when these people are just existing lol you can make a good movie that includes diversity
@@hpfan2007 Of course, pandering is when you do box checking, just doing a movie that includes it cause it is relevant and makes a compelling story within the story is making a good movie with it.
So it’s okay if a Hawaiian person doesn’t look Hawaiian, but it’s bad if someone that doesn’t look Hawaiian plays a Hawaiian that’s not supposed to look Hawaiian? 🤷🏼♂️
The point is they could've gotten a Hawaiian actor, they exist.
@@RainyDayWolf For a lead role in a romantic comedy, a genre that is almost entirely dependent on star power? No, wrong, they couldn't have. Films have to make money. Hardly anyone goes to see a romantic comedy unless both actors are well known, preferably A-list stars. They cast Emma Stone because she's a great actress and people like her and will pay to see her. Cast an unknown who "looks the part," and you will make far less money. That's not racism. That's business economics.
Isn't it amazing how moving from realism or a good story to being cultaral sensitive at the cost of everything else is seen as improvment. It is even better when the intent or context behind many of these characters being the way they are is just ignored.
You said it all 👍
Honorable mentions: John Wayne as Genghis Khan
Georgia Moll as Phuong (The Quiet American, 1958)
Laurence Olivier as Othello
Decent of Hollywood to have cast Adam Beach as Ben Yahzee and Ira Hayes, though
And let's not forget Iron-Eyes Cody, who was actually Italian...
No stiffler was what some guys are like so that trope shouldn’t go away and he pays for his evilness many times through out the series
Agreed, that’s part of the character , he’s suppose to be a high school douche who is still acting like a jerk in the 2nd movie . He shouldn’t be so high on the list with many of the racist characters in movie history .
I don’t see the problem with, “Aloha” if it’s based on a real person. I’m 1/4 Japanese and 1/4 French Canadian (ancestors were built like tanks) no one would guess that by looking at me. Seems like you’re the one being insensitive in that case “Ms Mojo”
Ryan O'Neal's character from 'Partners' should be on this list!
Times are changing for the better...
Are you shittening me?
Yeah I was def pissed off with Emma Stone's character in Aloha. I mean couldn't they find an actual actress that is Asian/American!?
We'll just ignore the fact that she was playing a real person that also didn't look "Asian" -- And just btw, using "Asian" for everyone from Turkey to Japan is pretty damned insulting and dehumanising on its own...
Hawaiians aren't Asian ... they're Polynesian. Can't tell the difference? Hmmm ....
@@Purplexity-ww8nb Ng is an asian last name, can't tell the difference?
What about Johnny Knoxville's character in "The Ringer" or Sean Penn's character in "I am Sam"?
They *DEFINITELY* wouldn't be acceptable today!
If Emma Stone can't play Ng because she isn't Asian, and if the Avatar cast is problematic for the same reason, then I fail to understand how Hamilton isn't just as problematic. Either race matters or it doesn't. I'm all for being accurate in how characters are portrayed on screen and stage. But that has to go both ways. Whitewashing is terrible (looking at you, Mickey Rooney), but you don't get equality by permitting the same behavior in the other direction. Either we abandon any casting standards, or they apply for everyone.
The accent thing is logically possible in Johnny 5. If the parents spoke their native language in the home, children often grow up with accents. That said, a white guy putting on a Hindi affectation is dumb as hell.
Historical footnote: Hattie (from “Gone With the Wind”) was one of the models for the “Aunt Jemimah” character on pancakes, biscuits and maple syrup products that was only recently retired from supermarket shelves in America. You might find some of those commercials still on TH-cam.
"Retired" is a pretty polite way to put it. Erased would be more accurate. Or cancelled.
I personally think that the live action The Last Airbender is an abomination 😊
Exactly!!!
I liked it, but people send me death threats for liking it. It seems you will reply with: As you should
@@WonHakWoon It’s not my favorite movie, but getting threats for enjoying it is insane 😂
Last Airbender makes DragonBall Evolution, Mortal Kombat: Annihilation and Super Mario Bros look like Citizen Kane
Surprised that Peter Sellers Indian character from "The Party" is not on this list. Is it because Sellers was a genius and his performance is both hilarious and dignified?
He was comedic but also a good guy, helping with everything he could and trying not to be a problem in a party that half of the people was nuts. I think that's why he is not in the list.
Before watching, I think we can all predict who number one is going to be😏
@WiLD CHiLD Tropic Thunder was trying to show how Hollywood casts white people to play brown roles. It wasn't an offensive sterotype or anything, they were actually highlighting and sorta parodying blackface.
But no one seems to be upset that Morgan Freeman played a Irishman in Shawshank! Reason-He was the best actor for the role but the same courtesy can't be extended to actors with paler skin tone. Weird!
A lot things should not have been made in the last air bender movie
Yeah, like the whole movie
I think, they used to cast roles just based on your acting ability.
Now, they look for everything else.
Also, Steve (Stifler) would be exactly the same if the American Pie franchise was made now.
WHAT? Attaining career success through MERIT? We can't have that! You're only allowed to be successful if you're "non-binary", "trans", "Black" or something else that ISN'T white! "Wypepo" are always evil!
@@midtownl9153 There's still talent out there, it's just harder to find among the rest.
Carl Brutananadilewski from ATHF don't care if you said no cartoons and yes the Aqua Teens got a movie in the late 2000s
My conclusion? People have became too emotional over the slightest most irrelevant things. Many can barely make ends meet and they rage about things such as what fictional characters are played by what race/colored actors, being only one exampe. The idiocy is mind boggling and still keeps reaching ever greater heights.
Steve stifler is my favourite pick 😀
So the message of this video, "stop having a sense of humor"!
did they forget about Pestario from The Pest starring john leguizamo, if not thats fine its best not to mention it "yeeesh"
You said in the video that Emma Stone was portraying a real life person who was 1/4 Chinese, and 1/4 Hawaiian who didn't resemble they're heritage. If she is playing a real life person she should resemble the real person, not your imagined perception of what the person SHOULD look like based on their heritage. So since she didn't look like her heritage, should the real person not claim that part of their heritage? Given the fact that I am Irish and Dutch, but I have no Dutch characteristics should I just claim to be Irish and not acknowledge my Dutch ancestry?
Hattie McDaniel she is the coolest and iconic African actress in the world and I like when she became Mammy in the movie of Gone with the wind
I agree, she was the first person of colour to win an Academy Award for Acting, but she sadly wasn't able to retrieve her Oscar. 😢
@@trinaq yes i known she is the first African actress who win a Oscar for good actress and cool performance
That’s why they said her win bittersweet bc acting Hattie killed it however the character of mammy was a racist stereotype
You mean African American.
I would have also put Butterfly McQueen's Prissy alongside Mammy. (Hey, no reason two characters can't take up one slot on a list like this.) While Prissy was a very different character from Mammy, she also played into a lot of prejudiced tropes, and the roles had similar effects on the portrayal of African-American characters for years.
The Emma Stone one is stupid, they literally cast her because she resembles the woman she's based on.
Be careful that's not politically correct............
That's a insult
I remember being deeply offended by the Rob Schneider character the "Asian Minister" in I Now Pronounce You Chuck & Larry. Not that this was a highly rated movie, but 14 years later I still remember the feeling I got after watching it once.