As a former masters racer, who skied many prepared courses, it was nothing compared to a World Cup course much less the Streif. Most expert skiers would do well to survive a run. Forget about properly skiing it. It makes one appreciate just how difficult the sport is at this level and how special the athletes are.
@@DiegoRuiz1991 They prep the courses by spraying them with water in most cases. It's basically bulletproof ice. An expert skier could definitely ski the run relatively well... the people in this clip are not expert skiers... but they'd never be able to run the actual racing line.
Those guys trying to do a turn right out of the start house and just falling down....it shows you how rock hard the "snow" is. It must be like skiing on a vertical skating rink. I like seeing amateurs attempt things like this because it makes it abundantly clear how otherworldly the professionals are.
This is why Olympic events should always have a pure amateur go first in every event. It would really help people appreciate how good the professionals really are
After watching professional skiers go down the Streif, this video certainly makes you laugh a little bit. Perhaps for those most courageous in this video, only after being released on Streif's descent, they do appreciate how difficult it is. Hat off to Feuz this year!
I was in Val d’Isère the week before the Olympics in '92. The national teams were training on the DH and Super G courses. It's incredible on TV but seeing the speed in person is unfrickin' believable.
Did this 40 years ago, and did quite well with short slalom turns outof the start gate where people where sliding a bit all over the the place. Then from the top of the Mausefalle down through the compression (Schuss of course), made it through the caroussel but lost my outside ski traversing towards the Steilhang. Unfortunately my left ski said goodbye and I ended up in the wooden garden fence. People had to get me out of there. Just had a slightly torn ligament, still, I survived and managed to ski further down. To the Hausbergkante and thought, nobody can jump this, it's crazy! Stoood there for 15 minutes just trying to comprehend how you can fly into there without killing yourself. Long story, but this video brings the memories back. Hope I didn't put you to sleep ! (The first time, a year before I literally stumbled upon the Strife. It had snowd 34-40 cm and skied down towars a wooden fence, like a dead end. When I got thei fence on the edge of the Mausefalle, I realized this must be the Strife. In order to whats behind there, I had to lean over and thought, well it can't be here, nobody can jump down there, and thought you would literally go straight for 50 meters straight out before gravity takes over and pulls you down again on the course. Looking to my left was a forest with no path. Later, I realized it was the Mausefalle)
sure but on this day, on that boilerplate, the first short slalom turn you made out of the start house - no way you're setting an edge so you'd be right on your ass like most of these other knuckleheads. You musta just bombed that part!
@@yodaneer4127 idk, I skied this course a few times, but never directly after the race, mainly because I don't have time for vacation in january, but in february. But I was there about 2 weeks after the race. I had no problems skiing from the start until the end of Steilhang with giant slalom skis, it was a little icy but I had my edges sharpened before. The only part I skipped was Hausberg, because at that part there was a mix of ice and deep snow, which is much worse than just ice. I think I wouldn't have a problem going down the whole Streif directly after the race
@@rfvtgbzhn That's what that guys thought to. The praparation for the race is nothing like when they prepare it for the public. Even the day after the race it will be completely different, let alone two weeks. And college of mine has been in the military and once got dispatched to the race to smooth out the course. He's a military trained skier and yet he told me you are lucky to get some grip at all on that ice.
@@NeoDerGrose they don't prepare it for the public anymore, at least not the difficult parts. They only prepare it for the race and then leave it as it is, which means that 2 weeks after the race it's much more difficult than directly after because the ice plates still exist but there is deep snow in between.
Those guys are probably way better than average skiers, but the snow is so hard. they can’t even hold an edge. Sharp edges on the skis would be 50% of the puzzle.
50/50. True most recreational skiiers won't have the edge that sharp however you can also see the fear by the fact they are going sideways straight out the gate. Scrubbing speed before they have a chance to build any! So I'd say 40% edges, 50% fear and 10% straight up lack of skill!
One of the great things about racing Kitzbühel is that I always remember the start as flat, because you go straight into jumping off the mausefalle, and that is steep, and then you have to try and turn on the steilhang. And then I turned up each year, and the start is steep, but nothing compared to the mausefalle, steilhang or finish. The trick is to engage at the start and treat it as flat, it soon gets steep. First time I raced there I turned up with normal sharp inspection skis, and slid straight off the stielhang. I was left at the bottom looking up at it wondering how on earth I was going to make the turn at full speed, when I could not even stand on it.
I was 10 years snowski instructor, and I passed several times after FIS descents. Well even I couldn't take the first (or any other) turn without skidding all the way to slow myself down. And I usually gave up halfway through, my legs burning. Too dangerous.
As you know, its not just technique. An instructor won't have usually prepared such knife sharp edges on the skis. But the crash of Barbabas Szollos after the Mausefalle jump this year was a reminder of how dangerous the Streif is.
I dont know this area but painted a cabin in salt lake and hiked up to look down the ski jump, and wondered who in the hell would volenteerfully go down it lol
Did a season instructing there, it’s basically ice most the way down after the race week 😂 if you can’t use the skis edges good luck lol watching the pros launch down the mausefalle is crazy, tv cameras don’t do it justice. Most people won’t go down and the pros are going 50mph+ jumping 40/50meters 🤯
@@radieschen79 yeh my bad, bit of a typo. They’re hitting the first jump (more like a cliff) at 50/60 mph. Think they max out at 110mph. Even the slowest turns are at 50mph 😂 if you’ve never seen the course in real life, the cameras do it no justice
@@devise69 "if you’ve never seen the course in real life, the cameras do it no justice" So true, the course is so much steeper in real life than on camera. It's almost like an optical illusion really.
Where I used to ski we had a run that was the most difficult and steepest in an area of six local ski hills. A friend of mine raced world cup and said that steep mogul run was like the start of Kitzbuehel.
Being a former World Cup Men's DH employee,; had its most entertaining moments. I'm referring to some of the much appreciated volunteers,u that are, let's just say, not highly experienced in the practice of having control of their skiing skills. As groomed and prepared as the course has to be, to FIS requirements, some people and their "I'll maintained" equipment (dull edges) proved very entertaining for lots of us, scary for them. On some parts of the course, as steep and purposely frozen, you were required to wear crampons.🤔 (Or skates) As those who have worked at World Cup DH's, you know as well as I do, they are "solid ice" from start gate to finish line. If you didn't have the skills, or finally tune edges, a I guess we'll see you at the bottom ( or in the "catch fences") Anyway, be safe on the course, and always look up the course for projectile humans! 😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣 Cheers from British Columbia 🇨🇦
Pretty wild how good the pros actually are. I'm anyways blown away with how fast they go. I will say this. If the "hobby" skiers had the equipment (mainly the edges) that the pros have then the outcome would be drastically better for some of these guys. Most people ski on skis that are very poorly tuned... Or in many cases never tuned. The pros have the best of the best and razer sharp edges to go along with it. They wouldn't be able to get a decent edge either on this surface with the trash most people ski on. Just saying...
Fartbagger-guy is the first of the few who manage not to fall, and the next guy is the only one who skis it respectably. "Brexit on skis" OMG these guys are too much! :D
What's Brexit got to do with anything here? TBH that run is just ice from top to bottom, props to them for giving it a crack I say, would have been easier to stay on the pistes
I snowboard Ruapehu. Which regularly delivers blue ice. So pretty used to ice skating. Came to Austria last year and drove me mad watching all the lovely snow getting skidded off the few black trails they had because almost no one uses their edges..
Most of them seemed to have the idea of initiating a turn immediately to regulate their speed, but when they tried to engage their edges on that icy surface and gradient… nothing happened. Maybe it was partly the skis they were using? The 3rd guy saw that and decided to forget turns and just slide instead. The 4th guy understood better, he was brave enough to let the skis run and was able to maintain composure and control to cope with the speed and force as the slope levelled out.
If i was there i wouldn't try turning to start, i'd just get into my Franz Klammer tuck and let 'er rip! I mean, they have those orange catch fences there, might as well put them to good use! Not to mention they had a whole bunch of meat bags there that would for sure slow one down before the fencing. Good times!!!
I made a rough translation, sorry for my bad English: - Now we have number 51, the race is is not yet over, but now it is finally over, that was it. My god / for god’s sake. His luck must be that there is still a barrier to the “Mausefalle”. - Now it goes on, number 53, but he doesn’t do it better. - I think now it is quiet, now no one is coming. Oh, there is one more. With 53. “The race isn’t over yet”. Is there anything else possible? They are already celebrating down there, and the decision is up here now. At least he is getting down, dear people. “Oh yes”. We don’t do the Mausefalle. Oh, very assertive. Achtung, Achtung, Achtung. That’s working. - Famous last words: I will also try it. Yes, there was a new tactic, sliding on the butt on 2 skis at the Kitzbühel Starthaus. - and a last camera drive / rotation: “oh yes. 720 double foo foo no strap”. I’ve rarely laughed so much dear people, continue! - he’s hesitating. But now! - dear people, if you’re asking yourself what all this is about, [then continues in English]
1:25 it is ridiculous that you would need to tell this to an adult, but nobody should be even allowed on this super icy, steep slope without a helmet. my worst fall ever was in Kitzbühel, not on the Streif, but another black piste. It looked normal at first and I am a cautious skier who doesn't speed recklessly ever, but as I came over an edge the piste suddenly turned into like a vertical skating rink and it felt like my skis were jerked from underneath me. so icy I just slid over it sideways faster than I could go straight if I had wanted to, then I hit the ground. the buildup of speed was so immense on the not-ending ice that I shot down half the slope like a puck before I came to a stop and god was a I glad I was wearing a helmet and back protector, as I was facing spine forward during most of it. after I came to a stop there was dead silence for a moment and the people in the chairlift overhead were screaming, asking if I was ok. I somehow thought, ok I can feel all limbs and signalled I was fine, but that was the biggest shock ever. seeing the streif iced and prepared for the race on photos gives me the chills. this isn't sport anymore, it is sensationlism.
I was skiing this bit last week. Trust me, if you stand on top, it looks 4 times steeper than here. It's almost as if goes down vertical for the first 5 meters and then slowly gets less steep. The funny thing is: if you see it from below in real, it does not look so steep, and if you see it on TV it looks like nothing. To actually ski down this whole track in "Schuss", requires INHUMANE STRENGHT in the legs! It's not only matter of skill and guts, but also power. Often I see people standing in front of steep sections of the track, jaws dropped in utter disbelief that any person is so crazy to actually JUMP down into the abbys. The Streif really is the Holy Grail of Speed skiing ⛷️ - you have to see it in real to understand how crazy this event actually is! 😱 🤯
I wonder if improvements in ski technology over the decades is somehow making it easier to be bad. Turning modern skis on a groomed run is effortless, and maybe that inhibits balance and strength development.
this looks way less scary than it probably is in real life. in KItzbühel, even some "normal" slopes (that aren't prepared for races) are more like ice and in the shade, you can't see it, and once you feel what is going on, you're game over already. as soon as you are trying to do anything apart from going "schuss" (straight), if you try to initiate a turn or break, the ground is pulled from under you like a rug and you don't stop falling down or sliding down the hill at speed for a scary time.
All respect to high end athletes of every sport. Yeah, they get the best training but they have to 'cause they're doing superhuman stuff. As for the people in the video kudos to them. I know I would do a hell of a lot worse.
Ha - we got plenty of opprobrium for having fun with this. But in our defence neither I nor Gregor have hidden our own incompetence: th-cam.com/video/qmSGW_tgyJw/w-d-xo.html
I second that thought....anybody who thinks these guys look funny should try to ski a WC DH course the day after the race....I did once and it was a very humbling experience...pretty well unskiable. One would need super stiff skis, edges sharpened like knives and thighs the size of tree trunks....otherwise it's one high speed sideslip after another... all the way down.
As a retired ski patroller, I was hoping these guys would be the local patrol having a laugh, but oh well lol.. The other character that would have made it funny would have been the guy who played Rudy on the old Hotdog movie!
This has gotta be nearly impossible to do on a few mm of ice, im sure most amateur skiers could make it down the hill with a little bit of powder on top.
I don't have a valley ski. It's an Atomic. I have poles to make free space around me and to lean on. What you mean "set the pole"? I got a back protector. It's in my room. Ski instructors? What they good for? I'm from germany and ski since 10 years. I am a black slopes pro. Just a few famous last words you hear as a ski instructor.
Nothing wrong with that. In Europe there is usually a narrow icy corridor on the (left) side of the piste only used by pretty good skiërs. Recreational traffic all finds themselves in the bumps and doesn't use the icy lane. Makes for fast commuting if you need to be somewhere else fast.
@@lxKinql Then you have always skied the normal route. Are you sure you are not exxagerating with having skied 20 years? I total only around 1.7 years across 40 seasons, which is about 35 full ski days of 8 hours per season. You probably mean 20 seasons, but that doesn't say anything about experience. You can glide down a blue piste once a year and be done with it. Anyway. Look for the absolute edge of a piste. It's not wider than maybe a meter or so, and is usually there, not always.
@@primuscaligula6197 It's all open (or at least accessible) most of the season. Usually it's closed only when the snow gets too thin (exposing ice which the less capable hurt themselves on on mud which ruins the mountain).
Well for starters, even the racers are not turning right out of the gate. Two pushes with pole, and then into the left turn and drop of the Mausefalle. Still funny however.
going fast I can understand. You have to be brave. However, usually it is not possible as hobby skier unless you are one of the very first to go down the slope in the morning and you need good sunlight to see the surface clearly. Usually there are piles of snow at random places. And other people obviously. I'm only a hobby skier but my friends and I usually pass other people on the slopes and we like to ride down in one go so I consider myself advanced. I've never been skiing in Kitz because I heard it is too crowded. I have seen however Obertauern Gamsleiten 2 (in a terrible condition) and Ischgl Lange Wand (in good condition) I can say it is possible to ride them in good condition but it is very dangerous if you are not strong, know the slope and generally don't know what you're doing. I think everything over 80kmh starts to be very dangerous and the moment you start to fly over hills it becomes an entirely different class. Most of the required skills are obviously not possible to train for a hobby skier as you need closed off slope. Basically, you need to be drilled by parents and teachers from a young age to be serious. Than you can join a sports club and work yourself up. And then you can take on the Streif. However, if you go skiing for only 3 slopes and then go for apreski to get wasted you're out of luck
Spot on. Those who fall are nervous, the better skiers build up some speed to get a turn done on the ice, but it's the steepness that causes the nerves. Good skiiers can get down at recreational pace, but it does make you realise who brave and talented the racers are to tackle it at full speed.
Seems like powder compared to our western Pennsylvania slopes. When you skid out on our snow, sparks come from the metal edges, not a spray of snow like in this video. 100% man-made snow turns to solid ice! It's true, if you can ski ice coast snow, you can ski anything! Pretty funny watching people try the start gate. Not sure why they immediately go on edge but it's entertaining.
2:00 “720 double foo foo no strap” hahahahahahaha this guy is having the time of his life I love it
Nosegrab xD
Full full nosegrab lmao
"brexit on ski" lmao
As a former masters racer, who skied many prepared courses, it was nothing compared to a World Cup course much less the Streif. Most expert skiers would do well to survive a run. Forget about properly skiing it. It makes one appreciate just how difficult the sport is at this level and how special the athletes are.
Why is it more difficult? Is it slippier than a normal slope or what?
@@DiegoRuiz1991 The courses are very steep and basically ice
@@Haaaksi - I get the steepness but a lot of World Cup courses are open on normal days and people ski them
@@DiegoRuiz1991 They prep the courses by spraying them with water in most cases. It's basically bulletproof ice. An expert skier could definitely ski the run relatively well... the people in this clip are not expert skiers... but they'd never be able to run the actual racing line.
@@OfficialFishyGamer And not even just spraying. In some places they "inject" water inside the snow making a thick layer of ice.
Those guys trying to do a turn right out of the start house and just falling down....it shows you how rock hard the "snow" is. It must be like skiing on a vertical skating rink. I like seeing amateurs attempt things like this because it makes it abundantly clear how otherworldly the professionals are.
In Vermont they used to call this 'Loose and frozen granular' :)
I like the white jacket guy who just went straight without turning.
This is why Olympic events should always have a pure amateur go first in every event. It would really help people appreciate how good the professionals really are
@@tchomicz1992 that’s actually a very interesting idea 👍
nah jerrys just cant ski ice because you cant skid turns
After watching professional skiers go down the Streif, this video certainly makes you laugh a little bit.
Perhaps for those most courageous in this video, only after being released on Streif's descent, they do appreciate how difficult it is. Hat off to Feuz this year!
Frozen.. That the way Profesionals likes it .... STREAK DOWN please 😂😂😅 It's just crazy!!!
Yes! Icy as most as possible!
I was in Val d’Isère the week before the Olympics in '92. The national teams were training on the DH and Super G courses. It's incredible on TV but seeing the speed in person is unfrickin' believable.
No clue what this guy's saying but I'm laughing with him.
The best thing he says through the clip is: "Famous last words: I'll have a try too!"
Don't worry. I'm german, and I'm struggling.
@@poggers7246 ehrlich? Ich finds noch komplett verständlich, im Gegensatz zu Schweitzern 😅
Things like „their famouse last words: „i will try it too“
@@fabianreusch4870nana, so schlimm sprechen wir doch nicht :P
Loved that fellow Brit and our fantastic ability to laugh at ourselves
Did this 40 years ago, and did quite well with short slalom turns outof the start gate where people where sliding a bit all over the the place. Then from the top of the Mausefalle down through the compression (Schuss of course), made it through the caroussel but lost my outside ski traversing towards the Steilhang. Unfortunately my left ski said goodbye and I ended up in the wooden garden fence. People had to get me out of there. Just had a slightly torn ligament, still, I survived and managed to ski further down. To the Hausbergkante and thought, nobody can jump this, it's crazy! Stoood there for 15 minutes just trying to comprehend how you can fly into there without killing yourself. Long story, but this video brings the memories back. Hope I didn't put you to sleep !
(The first time, a year before I literally stumbled upon the Strife. It had snowd 34-40 cm and skied down towars a wooden fence, like a dead end. When I got thei fence on the edge of the Mausefalle, I realized this must be the Strife. In order to whats behind there, I had to lean over and thought, well it can't be here, nobody can jump down there, and thought you would literally go straight for 50 meters straight out before gravity takes over and pulls you down again on the course. Looking to my left was a forest with no path. Later, I realized it was the Mausefalle)
sure but on this day, on that boilerplate, the first short slalom turn you made out of the start house - no way you're setting an edge so you'd be right on your ass like most of these other knuckleheads. You musta just bombed that part!
I like the guy who just went straight into it without turning.
@@yodaneer4127 idk, I skied this course a few times, but never directly after the race, mainly because I don't have time for vacation in january, but in february. But I was there about 2 weeks after the race. I had no problems skiing from the start until the end of Steilhang with giant slalom skis, it was a little icy but I had my edges sharpened before. The only part I skipped was Hausberg, because at that part there was a mix of ice and deep snow, which is much worse than just ice. I think I wouldn't have a problem going down the whole Streif directly after the race
@@rfvtgbzhn That's what that guys thought to. The praparation for the race is nothing like when they prepare it for the public. Even the day after the race it will be completely different, let alone two weeks.
And college of mine has been in the military and once got dispatched to the race to smooth out the course. He's a military trained skier and yet he told me you are lucky to get some grip at all on that ice.
@@NeoDerGrose they don't prepare it for the public anymore, at least not the difficult parts. They only prepare it for the race and then leave it as it is, which means that 2 weeks after the race it's much more difficult than directly after because the ice plates still exist but there is deep snow in between.
"Hold my skis"
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"No, literally, hold my skis. I'm going down on my arse."
Great commentary! Famous last words: I'll try it too. HAHAHA =)
Those guys are probably way better than average skiers, but the snow is so hard. they can’t even hold an edge. Sharp edges on the skis would be 50% of the puzzle.
No, they are just paralized by fear.
50/50. True most recreational skiiers won't have the edge that sharp however you can also see the fear by the fact they are going sideways straight out the gate. Scrubbing speed before they have a chance to build any!
So I'd say 40% edges, 50% fear and 10% straight up lack of skill!
Most of them look fucking terrible skiers. I didn’t see a single one trying to drive a carve
I have stood at that start gate after the race, when I was a beginner skier. It was damn steep!
I'm enjoying the seamless language switches! Smoother than the icy run.
One of the great things about racing Kitzbühel is that I always remember the start as flat, because you go straight into jumping off the mausefalle, and that is steep, and then you have to try and turn on the steilhang. And then I turned up each year, and the start is steep, but nothing compared to the mausefalle, steilhang or finish. The trick is to engage at the start and treat it as flat, it soon gets steep.
First time I raced there I turned up with normal sharp inspection skis, and slid straight off the stielhang. I was left at the bottom looking up at it wondering how on earth I was going to make the turn at full speed, when I could not even stand on it.
I was 10 years snowski instructor, and I passed several times after FIS descents. Well even I couldn't take the first (or any other) turn without skidding all the way to slow myself down. And I usually gave up halfway through, my legs burning. Too dangerous.
As you know, its not just technique. An instructor won't have usually prepared such knife sharp edges on the skis. But the crash of Barbabas Szollos after the Mausefalle jump this year was a reminder of how dangerous the Streif is.
@@chrisccummins haha yeah, i went down the streif with detuned park skis haha, i was litteraly just sliding on my edges
The announcers made this glorious!
"I think these are the elite!"
"Elite of the heart"
I dont know this area but painted a cabin in salt lake and hiked up to look down the ski jump, and wondered who in the hell would volenteerfully go down it lol
That laughing just savage!
“Next please.” hahaha.
Das hab ich zum ersten Mal gesehen wie geil ist das den bitte.
Wusste nicht das es so was gibt . Für Hobby Skifahren. Super lustig 😁
Did a season instructing there, it’s basically ice most the way down after the race week 😂 if you can’t use the skis edges good luck lol watching the pros launch down the mausefalle is crazy, tv cameras don’t do it justice. Most people won’t go down and the pros are going 50mph+ jumping 40/50meters 🤯
Top speed is more like 100mph+,😱 it's absolutely freaking crazy what these guys do.
@@radieschen79 yeh my bad, bit of a typo. They’re hitting the first jump (more like a cliff) at 50/60 mph. Think they max out at 110mph. Even the slowest turns are at 50mph 😂 if you’ve never seen the course in real life, the cameras do it no justice
@@devise69 "if you’ve never seen the course in real life, the cameras do it no justice" So true, the course is so much steeper in real life than on camera. It's almost like an optical illusion really.
Der Kommentar ist das Beste! ".. berühmte letzte Worte .." *made my day*
Where I used to ski we had a run that was the most difficult and steepest in an area of six local ski hills. A friend of mine raced world cup and said that steep mogul run was like the start of Kitzbuehel.
Being a former World Cup Men's DH employee,; had its most entertaining moments. I'm referring to some of the much appreciated volunteers,u that are, let's just say, not highly experienced in the practice of having control of their skiing skills. As groomed and prepared as the course has to be, to FIS requirements, some people and their "I'll maintained" equipment (dull edges) proved very entertaining for lots of us, scary for them. On some parts of the course, as steep and purposely frozen, you were required to wear crampons.🤔 (Or skates) As those who have worked at World Cup DH's, you know as well as I do, they are "solid ice" from start gate to finish line. If you didn't have the skills, or finally tune edges, a I guess we'll see you at the bottom ( or in the "catch fences") Anyway, be safe on the course, and always look up the course for projectile humans! 😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣 Cheers from British Columbia 🇨🇦
I lived on top of this mountain in 1992, and we use to ski down at night....easier on a full moon.
What do you mean by living up there?
@@NeoDerGrose I lived and worked in one of the restaurants for a ski season.
Last time I heard such a great laugh was on European It’s a Knockout!
I finally understand what this ski slope is. Anyone who survives is a winner.
Pretty wild how good the pros actually are. I'm anyways blown away with how fast they go.
I will say this. If the "hobby" skiers had the equipment (mainly the edges) that the pros have then the outcome would be drastically better for some of these guys. Most people ski on skis that are very poorly tuned... Or in many cases never tuned. The pros have the best of the best and razer sharp edges to go along with it. They wouldn't be able to get a decent edge either on this surface with the trash most people ski on. Just saying...
Camera guy: ”famous last words?“
Skier: ”🤨?“
Camera guy:“ I will try it, too!“
*Skier slides down the mountain*
After the race was over and this started, I think the commentators had a few schnapps. I can’t stop laughing with them.
„Sack rutschn auf zwoa skian“ is glab i da beste Kommentar 😅😅 und so schee doppldeutig
Ich denke das hier die bissigen starken fis ski vom Vorteil sind.
Love Sven’s takes!
Fartbagger-guy is the first of the few who manage not to fall, and the next guy is the only one who skis it respectably. "Brexit on skis" OMG these guys are too much! :D
What's Brexit got to do with anything here? TBH that run is just ice from top to bottom, props to them for giving it a crack I say, would have been easier to stay on the pistes
I snowboard Ruapehu. Which regularly delivers blue ice. So pretty used to ice skating.
Came to Austria last year and drove me mad watching all the lovely snow getting skidded off the few black trails they had because almost no one uses their edges..
Von der Stimme her könnte er auch orf Moderator sein, Legende!
neither on TV nor here on TH-cam really shows how steep it is in reality. And the slope is really pure ice.
It's not that steep and it's not that hard to ski as well. On a normal day that is, it gets a whole different story when it's prepared for the race.
I skied half the Kandahar last week, it was terrifying ☠️ ⛷
Most of them seemed to have the idea of initiating a turn immediately to regulate their speed, but when they tried to engage their edges on that icy surface and gradient… nothing happened. Maybe it was partly the skis they were using? The 3rd guy saw that and decided to forget turns and just slide instead. The 4th guy understood better, he was brave enough to let the skis run and was able to maintain composure and control to cope with the speed and force as the slope levelled out.
Well, if everyone would get out of the way, someone can take it directly downhill in the blue area!
The movie "Streif" gives a perfect picture of what it takes to ski this run.
If i was there i wouldn't try turning to start, i'd just get into my Franz Klammer tuck and let 'er rip! I mean, they have those orange catch fences there, might as well put them to good use! Not to mention they had a whole bunch of meat bags there that would for sure slow one down before the fencing. Good times!!!
That‘s the spirit!
I made a rough translation, sorry for my bad English:
- Now we have number 51, the race is is not yet over, but now it is finally over, that was it. My god / for god’s sake. His luck must be that there is still a barrier to the “Mausefalle”.
- Now it goes on, number 53, but he doesn’t do it better.
- I think now it is quiet, now no one is coming. Oh, there is one more. With 53. “The race isn’t over yet”. Is there anything else possible? They are already celebrating down there, and the decision is up here now. At least he is getting down, dear people. “Oh yes”. We don’t do the Mausefalle. Oh, very assertive. Achtung, Achtung, Achtung. That’s working.
- Famous last words: I will also try it. Yes, there was a new tactic, sliding on the butt on 2 skis at the Kitzbühel Starthaus.
- and a last camera drive / rotation: “oh yes. 720 double foo foo no strap”. I’ve rarely laughed so much dear people, continue!
- he’s hesitating. But now!
- dear people, if you’re asking yourself what all this is about, [then continues in English]
quite sure it´s "720 double for full nose grab"
1:25 it is ridiculous that you would need to tell this to an adult, but nobody should be even allowed on this super icy, steep slope without a helmet. my worst fall ever was in Kitzbühel, not on the Streif, but another black piste. It looked normal at first and I am a cautious skier who doesn't speed recklessly ever, but as I came over an edge the piste suddenly turned into like a vertical skating rink and it felt like my skis were jerked from underneath me. so icy I just slid over it sideways faster than I could go straight if I had wanted to, then I hit the ground. the buildup of speed was so immense on the not-ending ice that I shot down half the slope like a puck before I came to a stop and god was a I glad I was wearing a helmet and back protector, as I was facing spine forward during most of it. after I came to a stop there was dead silence for a moment and the people in the chairlift overhead were screaming, asking if I was ok. I somehow thought, ok I can feel all limbs and signalled I was fine, but that was the biggest shock ever. seeing the streif iced and prepared for the race on photos gives me the chills. this isn't sport anymore, it is sensationlism.
I was skiing this bit last week. Trust me, if you stand on top, it looks 4 times steeper than here. It's almost as if goes down vertical for the first 5 meters and then slowly gets less steep. The funny thing is: if you see it from below in real, it does not look so steep, and if you see it on TV it looks like nothing. To actually ski down this whole track in "Schuss", requires INHUMANE STRENGHT in the legs! It's not only matter of skill and guts, but also power.
Often I see people standing in front of steep sections of the track, jaws dropped in utter disbelief that any person is so crazy to actually JUMP down into the abbys. The Streif really is the Holy Grail of Speed skiing ⛷️ - you have to see it in real to understand how crazy this event actually is! 😱 🤯
The camera guy is like those two guys in the muppet show back in the day ..
Rewatching this and that must be some some smooth ice if they can’t hold a side slip.
This is a regular green for east coast skiers, but with an above average amount of snow
facts
No, it really isn't...
@@marksaxby607 It's a joke lol
That is sheet ice as they water the course to firm it up
yes. and is much steeper than even it looks on the video.
"Sackrutschen auf zwei Skiern!" LOL🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
😂 Wer ist der Moderator? Der ist eine Gaudi! 👏😂
Gregor F Waltl. Google him, he would be pleased!
I wonder if improvements in ski technology over the decades is somehow making it easier to be bad. Turning modern skis on a groomed run is effortless, and maybe that inhibits balance and strength development.
this looks way less scary than it probably is in real life. in KItzbühel, even some "normal" slopes (that aren't prepared for races) are more like ice and in the shade, you can't see it, and once you feel what is going on, you're game over already. as soon as you are trying to do anything apart from going "schuss" (straight), if you try to initiate a turn or break, the ground is pulled from under you like a rug and you don't stop falling down or sliding down the hill at speed for a scary time.
I skied the mousfalle ...no joke ..
A ski with a boot shot be me with no one in it...
All respect to high end athletes of every sport. Yeah, they get the best training but they have to 'cause they're doing superhuman stuff. As for the people in the video kudos to them. I know I would do a hell of a lot worse.
Nice that they have a good time. In germany, the press would cry "oh no one cannot laugh at them" bla bla
Ha - we got plenty of opprobrium for having fun with this. But in our defence neither I nor Gregor have hidden our own incompetence: th-cam.com/video/qmSGW_tgyJw/w-d-xo.html
You can see those people are not beginners. It takes a master to ski this though
I have tried to ski this many times when in Kitzbuehel; It is so icy, it is like trying to ski on glass.
Next time bring your FIS SLs tuned at 0,5/4 you got that!
“Our next victim please” 💀🤣
The race courses are sprayed with water to ice them up so the real racers won’t rut up the course. You can see where the sprayer went
Commentary is hilarious
And I don't understand most of it
I would like to see you at the same place, instead of laughing at them!
touché...laritoulille. I had one attempt at easy ski racing and I was a disaster th-cam.com/video/qmSGW_tgyJw/w-d-xo.html
and when I went down the Streif it was in nice soft snow! www.theviennareview.at/archives/2013/taming-the-slopes-of-kitzbuhel
@@chrisccummins o... not as bad as you said! you did not fall when starting, good job! enjoy!
@@chrisccummins very interesting!
I second that thought....anybody who thinks these guys look funny should try to ski a WC DH course the day after the race....I did once and it was a very humbling experience...pretty well unskiable. One would need super stiff skis, edges sharpened like knives and thighs the size of tree trunks....otherwise it's one high speed sideslip after another... all the way down.
As a retired ski patroller, I was hoping these guys would be the local patrol having a laugh, but oh well lol.. The other character that would have made it funny would have been the guy who played Rudy on the old Hotdog movie!
This has gotta be nearly impossible to do on a few mm of ice, im sure most amateur skiers could make it down the hill with a little bit of powder on top.
Until they got the section thats 85% slope lol
a little powder doesn't help on ice
With powder it's nothing special but on ice without prepared skies no chance
You could walk down anything with powder on it!
Also before the race they ice it deliberately
I don't have a valley ski. It's an Atomic.
I have poles to make free space around me and to lean on. What you mean "set the pole"?
I got a back protector. It's in my room.
Ski instructors? What they good for? I'm from germany and ski since 10 years. I am a black slopes pro.
Just a few famous last words you hear as a ski instructor.
Seems all you need is some nice sharp skis...like my Kastle MX's!
Tourists... This is exactly the kind of weekend “pros” you will see going down full speed on a crowded blue run...
Nothing wrong with that. In Europe there is usually a narrow icy corridor on the (left) side of the piste only used by pretty good skiërs. Recreational traffic all finds themselves in the bumps and doesn't use the icy lane. Makes for fast commuting if you need to be somewhere else fast.
@@davesmulders3931 wtf are you talking about
@@davesmulders3931 i have skied for over 20 years in austria, germany, swiss and france and i don't know what you're talking about
@@lxKinql Then you have always skied the normal route. Are you sure you are not exxagerating with having skied 20 years? I total only around 1.7 years across 40 seasons, which is about 35 full ski days of 8 hours per season.
You probably mean 20 seasons, but that doesn't say anything about experience. You can glide down a blue piste once a year and be done with it.
Anyway. Look for the absolute edge of a piste. It's not wider than maybe a meter or so, and is usually there, not always.
@@lxKinql Lol I have skied for 2 days and snowboarded for only 4 days in my entire life and I know what he is talking about.
Man all these popups. It's not like we live in a world that needs more popups
Safety first!
This is awesome! They open to public after the racing is done???
Not all parts because some are just too dangerous when in racing conditions. But most of it is open to the public.
@@primuscaligula6197 one year later 🙂
@@primuscaligula6197 It's all open (or at least accessible) most of the season. Usually it's closed only when the snow gets too thin (exposing ice which the less capable hurt themselves on on mud which ruins the mountain).
Well for starters, even the racers are not turning right out of the gate. Two pushes with pole, and then into the left turn and drop of the Mausefalle. Still funny however.
Das Rennen ist noch nicht vorbei, aber jetzt ist es für ihn auch vorbei😂😂
I think at 32 sec he said. Next victim please lol
This looks like so much fun.
What are the commentators saying?
To be fair even racers would struggle using 1° compound edges and torsionally soft skis on water bar treated snow.
Point tips downhill lads
Would’ve loved to done this.
Thx
Imagine Odermatt dressed as one of these guys.
Commentators: WHAT THE EFFIN EF MAN?!?!?
LOL...even in a foreign language the commentary is LOL~!
It is ice, no snow…. That is hard to handle
Every turn is a sign of fear...
Snowboarders turn 😆, and I'm a boarder
going fast I can understand. You have to be brave. However, usually it is not possible as hobby skier unless you are one of the very first to go down the slope in the morning and you need good sunlight to see the surface clearly.
Usually there are piles of snow at random places. And other people obviously.
I'm only a hobby skier but my friends and I usually pass other people on the slopes and we like to ride down in one go so I consider myself advanced.
I've never been skiing in Kitz because I heard it is too crowded.
I have seen however Obertauern Gamsleiten 2 (in a terrible condition) and Ischgl Lange Wand (in good condition) I can say it is possible to ride them in good condition but it is very dangerous if you are not strong, know the slope and generally don't know what you're doing.
I think everything over 80kmh starts to be very dangerous and the moment you start to fly over hills it becomes an entirely different class. Most of the required skills are obviously not possible to train for a hobby skier as you need closed off slope.
Basically, you need to be drilled by parents and teachers from a young age to be serious. Than you can join a sports club and work yourself up.
And then you can take on the Streif.
However, if you go skiing for only 3 slopes and then go for apreski to get wasted you're out of luck
It's funny to watch but I know if I would try I would be falling instantly. Streif is so damn steep
Welch ein Gegacker❗️was ist das für ein Stoff😎💊
“Brexit on skis” 😂😂😂👍👍👍
you must not make a turn on the exit, without speed on ice, the fall is certain, you must go straight
Spot on. Those who fall are nervous, the better skiers build up some speed to get a turn done on the ice, but it's the steepness that causes the nerves. Good skiiers can get down at recreational pace, but it does make you realise who brave and talented the racers are to tackle it at full speed.
What’s with all the Backpacks... ???
It's cushions the falls.
it's basically ice from start to bottom
Sharpen your edges!
Is it icy or something? I don't get why they are falling so easily.
Yes, VERY icy. It is hard like concrete and also steeper that it looks on video
Yes, VERY!
If you french fries when you should've pizza, you gonna have a bad time.
The best part about this video is the German commentators laughing at the amateur skiers' shame and misery.
Seems like powder compared to our western Pennsylvania slopes. When you skid out on our snow, sparks come from the metal edges, not a spray of snow like in this video. 100% man-made snow turns to solid ice! It's true, if you can ski ice coast snow, you can ski anything! Pretty funny watching people try the start gate. Not sure why they immediately go on edge but it's entertaining.
I guess they're going for the turns because it's very steep and they are afraid to gain speed, so they try to apply "recreational" slope slalom line
Sounds like ice... guess theres no point on trying to stop from that start!
Oh those wacky Austrians. First guy looked like he had freeride skis on. What could possibly go wrong?
"The race isn't over yet..."
1:58 - love the language ... german german german 720 double full full nose grab german german german
Achtung Achtung Achtung
Hauptsache, über andere Lachen. Nur weiter so. that's the spirit.
oh we laugh about ourselves too th-cam.com/video/qmSGW_tgyJw/w-d-xo.html