Musa al-Gharbi on Elite Wokeness, Islam, and Social Movements | Conversations with Tyler

Musa al-Gharbi is a sociologist and assistant professor at Stony Brook University whose research explores how people think about, talk about, and produce shared knowledge about race, inequality, social movements, extremism, policing, and other social phenomena. His new book, We Have Never Been Woke: The Cultural Contradictions of a New Elite, examines the rise and fall of wokeness among America’s elites and explores the underlying social forces at play.
Tyler and Musa explore the rise and fall of the "Great Awokening" and more, including how elite overproduction fuels social movements, why wokeness tends to fizzle out, whether future waves of wokeness will ratchet up in intensity, why neuroticism seems to be higher on the political Left, how a great awokening would manifest in a Muslim society, Black Muslims and the Nation of Islam, why Musa left Catholicism, who the greatest sociologist of Islam is, Muslim immigration and assimilation in Europe, and more.
Recorded September 19th, 2024
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Chapters
00:00:35 - On the rise and fall of the Great Awokening
00:18:33 - On Muslim wokeness
00:29:40 - On Black Muslims
00:37:56 - On leaving Catholicism
00:49:58 - On Muslim immigration and assimilation in Europe