@@marcelopardo4791 You are obviously referring to the fact that she lost 2 times against borgov before, but if you try to view it from the perspective of storytelling, this is a strong indication that she finally IS going to beat him. Just my opinion tho, not trying to offend you or anything ^^
When Benny Watts tells Harmon that she shouldn't have castle and Beltik could've won, what did he mean? I was hoping you could elaborate on that advice, since it breaks Elizabeth's mind later on.
@@MichaelJones-eq4ne like I said, her king was in his rooks lane, meaning by technicality it was a mate and she would've lost, but that's only if Beltik noticed and called her out on it, but he didn't and so he lost
@Samuel Chavarría Nobody has posted a reasonable answer to your question. One problem is that whoever wrote the dialogue in ep.3 at 34:00 didn't understand the chess game (the real game was Nezhmtdinov-Kasparian 1955). Benny Watts told Beth that Beltik could have beaten her, and she then set up the position and saw that 30.c4 was better than the move Beth played, h5. However Beth still had a winning position after 30.h5, but she also said "Beltik could have beat me." Wrong. If Beltik had played 30...gxh5 white should play 31.Bh3. It's possible that netflix filmed a clip that shows Beth making a losing move in the Beltik game, but if so they must have cut that scene.
I cried a lot during this series. I am adopted and did live in an Romanian orphanage until I was 5 (which was old then). Really connected to this series because I made a friend who is 68 his name is Tito he lives 4 doors next door. I am now 26 and was moved by this film. Also I am currently playing a guy at chess online from the Czech Republic :)
Damn, i jumped into chess right after watching the queen's gambit and discovered your chanel a few days later. Even for someone that did not played chess at the time i have to say that this serie is captivating
I hope they do a second season with Georgi (the 13 year old). He did say he would be a Grandmaster by 16. I think it would be cool to start with him at 4 years old playing for the first time and finish the series with him playing Beth!!
Nah, him playing Beth wouldn't be the culmination, but a complication. She undermines his confidence by winning and makes him rethink his goals and plan for life by asking about his life after he becomes a grandmaster so young.
I loved this! Though personally having watched the show, I would have loved to see analysis on the ends of those games- spoilers be damned- because when watching I was so curious about the positions that caused each player to decide to forfeit and what made them decide that. Just my 2c.
I loved the show and I appreciate the work that you obviously put into this video, not only with organising to get the rights to show these clips, but also with little detailes like the youtube-intern timestamps per game. Good job!
Levy confidence, restraint, and production all improving massively. As a young man coming into your own, amongst a whole bunch of solid chess personalities, you're trending to make chess content better in all the right ways
One thing that I found interesting in this video was the show's repeated use of adjournments as justification for the "alternate reality" versions of games that appear in it. Rather than try to claim that your fictional characters are better chess players than the historical ones who donated the source games, you can say, "oh, she had all night to theorycraft and that's why she found this more interesting line". Thanks for the video! I'll try to remember to check out this series if I ever get back on Netflix.
@@BlueFoxx92 Not anymore, there are no adjournments because these days you can just consult and engine in the middle of a game which would be extremely powerful.
@@themakerstoolbox9688 Not really, you can learn every line in a night, or atleast 5-6 lines quite easily. If your opponent deviates, you will also know how to punish that innacuracy.
@@themakerstoolbox9688 You underestimate the ability of chess players to memorize. Secondly if both players get to use computers, unless someone was losing already, most games would just be drawn. Would make for very boring games.
I especially appreciate seeing the Luchenko game, which had mystified me on the screen for a simple if silly reason. With the stylized chess set they used, I mistook the black King and Queen in the final position - even after freezing the shot of the board. With those pieces reversed, I could not fathom why White resigned when Qe8# looked pretty good!
@@yellowhouse4911 it shows your subconscious "Hey! These two are polar opposites" and they continue to show that throughout the series, with Harry being so engrossed by theory while Beth plays by ear. It's a small touch, but it gets done a lot more than you'd think in most shows.
I watched the first episode yesterday and there were scenes involving her dreaming about chess and it reminded me of my old days and part of why I quit 😂 I used to see chess in my dreams all the time and would calculate moves and continue play against myself or even against someone or something that would make the moves for the other “player” (also myself I guess lol). Either way, chess took over my dreams and at first, it wasn’t all that bad as I was making progress with it, but it eventually got annoying to the point of almost driving me insane. Mind you, this was at a relatively young age much like in the show, so I was interested in other things like sports and cars and those did not mix well at the chess tournaments, but I kind of wish I had not quit and kept playing. I’m sure a lot of people have similar dreams so I guess there’s just those who like them and use them and those who don’t 😂 I do want to start playing again, as I never thought as clearly and with as much determination as I did when I was younger. Found this channel recently and am really enjoying it. Thanks!
@Stanislav Hronek Why would she start streaming chess then ? Anyway in my mind shes still the world Champion besides i would Love to See her learn to play
The Queens Gambit is a great advert for Chess especially for girls and non-Chess players. The story line is based on the American, Bobby Fischer who famously only played 1 e4 before winning Game 6 in the 1972 World Championship with The Queens Gambit against the Champion, Boris Spassky from Russia in which he sportingly congratulated Bobby on a great game and was considered the best game of the Championships. Bobby Fischer was a Chess prodigy and at 14 years old won the United States Championships. The one trait that is incorrect is the drug substance abuse as I have never come across that from any Chess player of any ability being that it would affect their game negatively. I thought the performance was excellent in which the chess games were from those played by past Masters. Adjourning a game did occur in the 1972 World Championship for which they are no longer used for many years since the development of chess engines and players playing shorter games to a finish.
BF was just an inspiration to create Harmons character, the substance abuse IMO was included to add even more complexity to Beth and make her demons more visible. Also an antagonistic force was needed in the series and the writer did not want to necessarily put this on the russians, so it was really at the end of the day Beth unleashing her ful potential despite her internal demons...
Dude, chess absolutely attracts people with easily addicted behavior patterns, they're people like anyone else. What are you on about with calling it "incorrect"? There are even genetic factors that predispose some people to be especially susceptible to addiction to alcohol and benzodiazepines, as I recall (the drug she takes in the story is in that class) and her being a chess player doesn't make her immune to that nor to her drugging as a child.
@@ItsAsparageese yea it was a tranquilzer drugt hat they made up so it would have been like ketamine that was more lucid hallucinations added to it. its interesting. im someone who has used a wide variety of drugs ove my life time. while it would b e more like strrong dxm and benzo combined which mimics what happened inc the show
@@imwithyou38 Yeah the vivid visuals in the show don't really line up with plain benzos IRL & you're correct that the drug in the show is made up! It's meant to represent a common real one at the time though. But yeah I think the chess visualization thing is more a matter of her innate ability & its relationship to the drug represents her difficulty believing in her own potential or believing she could have her skills without her addiction being fulfilled. I'm sure you know as well as I do, addiction does a great job of convincing people they need their drug just to be any kind of normal. That's why after she starts healing & enters recovery she finds herself having the visualization ability independently in the end. That's my take on it anyway, but that's probably because I'm a medical geek/I really like science accuracy, so the idea of the drug actually inducing her visuals pisses me off & I refuse to accept that it wasn't just an ability she had all along & only thought she needed the drug to unlock it, lol
Because of the Queen's Gambit, i got back into chess. And as I did, I watched a ton of your videos and gained some actual insight into chess itself. And as i've done that, i've revisited the show on netflix again and again. And now I notice that in most games, Harmon not only uses her queen aggressively; she gambits her queen in most games. I'm assuming that kasparov and the director exhausted almost all first-8-move queen gambit game permutations that can be had, just to fill the show.
I think they just needed her to have a chess playing style that a wider audience could understand without knowing theory while also fitting her character. Aggressively gambitting the queen often fits that role haha. The show is also based off of the novel, where I'm assuming most of the games are similar
I loved this! Though personally having watched the show, I would have loved to see analysis on the ends of those games- spoilers be damned- because when watching I was so curious about the positions that caused each player to decide to forfeit and what made them decide that. Just my 2c.
On TH-cam there's a channel called "down the rabbit hole" (i think) who posted a great 2hr video about the 1990s kasparov vs deep blue matches..... It's excellent
dang early so I have a chance to ask lol levy how did did you get to the IM title like not I won a game I want the story if you can make a video about it
On TH-cam there's a channel called "down the rabbit hole" (i think) who posted a great 2hr video about the 1990s kasparov vs deep blue matches..... It's excellent
someone else thx for the suggestion I enjoyed it I meant by his story is how he became as strong to flex finding a premoved mate in 6 in 10 seconds when there is a mate in one
I think levy is currently working on a video called road to gm. Idk when it will come out of ever. But he did mention it on stream when people asked him this question and something about titles
This show re-ignited my interest in chess. I already knew the bare-basic, but never went much deeper than that. While I don't have the dedication to start memorizing openings and whatnot, its inspired me to push more into the intermediate level :D
Wow......... Couldn't possibly thank you enough for doing what so many of us couldn't [or wouldn't] but so desperately wanted. Perfect addition to finish this incredible series. Cant wait to watch again [this and series] but with this as an accompaniment. You are the best for doing this as if u already don't work hard enough lol you are a machine!
I think this video really suffered from you trying to avoid spoilers. I think you should've analysed the full games and it would've been way more interesting.
Thanks for all of the effort that went into this video, Levy. So entertaining and instructional. Love the work that you are doing. As long as you are doing it, I will be watching.
On TH-cam there's a channel called "down the rabbit hole" (i think) who posted a great 2hr video about the 1990s kasparov vs deep blue matches..... It's excellent
Hi Levy..., Excellent, excellent, and excellent ( commentary ) with some annotated comments... The movie was great and "Levy"..., you were great. From your first words..., you had me clued to the screen and enjoying everything in the Netflix movie/film and your game and movie comments... * I am very ( proud ) of you and the movie, chess games, and comments, and thank you for sharing the video... You made the video happen, and Beth and her co-stars made the film happen... * Once again, thank you for sharing the video... " Semper Fi " Mike in Montana P.S.: I wish and hope for a Season 2...; however, with all the lawsuits going back and forth..., I don't know ! :)
It’s so interesting because in the book when she plays Borgov for the first time (who is also depicted as being shorter and more stout in the book lol) they play the Ruy Lopez. Wonder why they went with the Sicilian in the show. Either way they did an amazing job with the show
13:05 I didn't like how Beth's attitude towards endgame studies was depicted. She basically dismisses them as useless because they do not develop from real games. But this is definitely not, how most masters think about them. For example English GM John Nunn regards them as a tremendous development tool for endgame technique despite being not "real". I know the movie follows the book by Walter Tevis faithfully, but I wished the film makers had deviated from the book. It shows that Tevis was a chess enthusiast, but not on a master level.
I literally started rewatching this fantastic show today and whioe watching actually bought what i think is your book? "How to win at chess" and a new chess board (this show has effects on me 😅
Whenever I watched her very first game with the janitor, after he brought the bishop out on move 2, I was like, “oh no she’s gonna fall for the scholar’s mate.” And then she did and I laughed so hard 😂
Gotham: Borgov plays a move that Beth didn't see, she might be in trouble me: ok Magnus: the draw offer was insulting he should have resigned moves ago me: oh Awesome analysis, btw!
What I loved about this is that the big game doesn't end with a resignation after a dramatic check, nor even with an easy-to-understand-but-terribly-cliche queen capture, let alone an actual checkmate. No, it's Beth sliding the king over one square, depriving Borgov of any more checks. You don't have to know chess to enjoy the series, but if you do, the chess is just *chef's kiss*.
when i first heard of this show i was expecting it to be bad due netflix putting propaganda in many of its shows that destroys the show but this was an amazing show and the first full netflix series ive seen
Really cool analysis! I found it difficult to follow what was happening while watching the show so it's great to see the different games deconstructed here :) Keep up the great content!
I wonder if Kasparov knew TH-cam would break down these clips to this degree, or if it was just his personal integrity as a consultant that drove him to create these novelties, and I also wonder what GMs are hoping after this series to be able to give input on a follow up or similar show They really gave so little pretentiousness to the level of chess that was being acted, and it's great to see how appreciated it all was by a pretty niche community
@@josiahbrush4324 but we've also seen him get salty to a point which shows he doesn't understand the exact way things apply for social media. I'm just wondering whether he understood the scope of what this show could be vs just getting a pay check, loving the beauty of the game, and knowing your name's on it and some people might check it out
Beautifully put-together presentation. Thank you. I appreciated the accuracy of the chess in the series, but could never have delved this deeply. Wonderful work.
Beth Harmon is clearly based on Levys life. Everything about Beth is exactly how Levy grew up and lives.... as a proud subscriber of Gothamchess on twitch I felt a lot closet to Levy after watching and I think his courage to overcome the obstacles he did in life is incredible and an example to us all.
Hi! I really enjoy your analysis! However, for those who are new to chess it is hard to visualize the last few moves of the games you’re addressing. It would be helpful for us novices for you to explain the games through to the end. Although that may seem tedious to some, especially those who are experts, but for many I think it would be exceedingly beneficial. Thanks!
Good job on the analysis. I love the show as well. I never played chess before. Happy to see the different TH-cam videos and mobile apps to get a beginner started. Thank you.
The only thing i wish they did was spend a little more time showing the positions on the board. It kind of felt like they sped through every game she played in the show, i couldnt keep up with the positions. Fantastic show overall though.
Same. They show the actors head and shoulder shots during play, but not what was being played. Then again, I guess it's similar to filming an actor playing as a pianist: very few could pull off a convincing performance so we don't see an actors hands on the keyboard. So here we don't see the actors here having to actually play chess (although they could have just followed queue cards / prompters). I'm sure the filmmakers had their reasons. But there was so much about the show to love, regardless.
Levy is in a higher definition than Beth. Cool.
(Still can't get over this camera quality).
Woah anish!
Anish c'mon bro
@@gurmeharsingh7716 what bruh
True
Same
everybody gangsta until the chess pieces start appearing on the ceiling
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Beth opened her chakras and finally learned how to get into the avatar state
Ceiling Stockfish predates the actual engine, turns out.
@@PhantomJavelin Who needs stockfish when you have tranquilizer pills?
Hikaru: that’s very normal for me
Other movies: SHE SAID THE TITLE!
Queen's Gambit: SHE'S DOING THE TITLE!
On a related note: th-cam.com/video/5t53TcKIlMc/w-d-xo.html
@@ploopybear wtf
@@randomusername5997 bruh 😂 I just saw that
@@ploopybear that had me weak 😂😂
@@ploopybear he said the title of the song.
I wish you spoiled it and just warned us that their were spoilers :(
I saw the series but I'm glad he didn't spoil it.
I personally watch the series to be able to watch this video, so I'm disapointed he try to didn't spoil...
@@XxKidnoffxX Yeah, same here! :D
Yeah
969th like lol
"I'm not gunna bore you with the theory here" BrUH why do you think nerds like me clicked
i feel you
same i watched the series but i dont play chess so i didnt understand the theory which is wby im here lmao
"Nerds like me"
Yes, we play chess. No need to be snarky about it
@@johnhill8910 wat
@@johnhill8910 wat, is not like nerd is an insult though
Lets not spoil alll the other games, but lets spoil the last game of the series 🤣🤣 omg levi hahahah
She obviously wins though... its the last game.
@@matko8038 haha i thinknyou didnt watched the series
@@marcelopardo4791 i did. Why?
@@marcelopardo4791 You are obviously referring to the fact that she lost 2 times against borgov before, but if you try to view it from the perspective of storytelling, this is a strong indication that she finally IS going to beat him. Just my opinion tho, not trying to offend you or anything ^^
He did warn you.
Dudley! He’s fucking Dudley oh my god that was killing me!
Im blown away. Of course he looked familiar but i never thought about that :O
*she's fucking Dudley
@@caffeinator1849 😂😂💀
I KNEW I RECOGNISED HIM!
i didnt realise that until levy said it how?!!!
When Benny Watts tells Harmon that she shouldn't have castle and Beltik could've won, what did he mean? I was hoping you could elaborate on that advice, since it breaks Elizabeth's mind later on.
If beltik noticed he could have won because she put her king in front of his rooks lane but he didn’t notice and neither did she
@@adrielcruz2736 Your post does not make sense to me, and neither does Benny's comment in Ep. 3. Where exactly in this video could Beltik have won?
@@MichaelJones-eq4ne like I said, her king was in his rooks lane, meaning by technicality it was a mate and she would've lost, but that's only if Beltik noticed and called her out on it, but he didn't and so he lost
@@adrielcruz2736 I asked where was the exact position you are talking about and you posted the same nonsense you posted before.
@Samuel Chavarría Nobody has posted a reasonable answer to your question. One problem is that whoever wrote the dialogue in ep.3 at 34:00 didn't understand the chess game (the real game was Nezhmtdinov-Kasparian 1955). Benny Watts told Beth that Beltik could have beaten her, and she then set up the position and saw that 30.c4 was better than the move Beth played, h5. However Beth still had a winning position after 30.h5, but she also said "Beltik could have beat me." Wrong. If Beltik had played 30...gxh5 white should play 31.Bh3. It's possible that netflix filmed a clip that shows Beth making a losing move in the Beltik game, but if so they must have cut that scene.
I cried a lot during this series. I am adopted and did live in an Romanian orphanage until I was 5 (which was old then). Really connected to this series because I made a friend who is 68 his name is Tito he lives 4 doors next door. I am now 26 and was moved by this film. Also I am currently playing a guy at chess online from the Czech Republic :)
bless you
Ahoj - from slovakia/czech republic
Oo se pare ca romanii chiar sunt peste tot
Al, God Bless you!
It's wonderful you got to find yourself in a series like this. All the best to you!
Damn, i jumped into chess right after watching the queen's gambit and discovered your chanel a few days later. Even for someone that did not played chess at the time i have to say that this serie is captivating
Ho and btw i found that you are so pleasent to wach and listen, im learning a lot very quickly. Thx again
Same here!
Not as easy as she made it look uh? ;)
@@robl4836 Clearly xD
That's cool that the show is compelling enough for people to start playing chess. Welcome!
I hope they do a second season with Georgi (the 13 year old). He did say he would be a Grandmaster by 16. I think it would be cool to start with him at 4 years old playing for the first time and finish the series with him playing Beth!!
im conflicted because this series was a masterpiece and anything else threatens that status. HOWEVER, i so desperately want more lmao. it was amazing.
Nah, him playing Beth wouldn't be the culmination, but a complication. She undermines his confidence by winning and makes him rethink his goals and plan for life by asking about his life after he becomes a grandmaster so young.
no
@@overtone55 yes
@@Evija3000 that's an interesting question for him to struggle with.
No reason that wouldn't work in a series.
I loved this! Though personally having watched the show, I would have loved to see analysis on the ends of those games- spoilers be damned- because when watching I was so curious about the positions that caused each player to decide to forfeit and what made them decide that. Just my 2c.
Same here
I loved the show and I appreciate the work that you obviously put into this video, not only with organising to get the rights to show these clips, but also with little detailes like the youtube-intern timestamps per game. Good job!
She gambitted her queen in the Queen's Gambit
Queen Gambit
show should've been called the botez gambit
Botez Gambit was a thing back then
What about kings gambit gambiting the king
She needs a lesson then
1:14 Harry Potter staring at Dudley playing a chess match
holy shit you just made me realize Dudley was in Queen's Gambit. I knew I recognized him from somewhere!
She's like a mix of the main trio. Readhead like Ron, orphaned like Harry, smart like Hermione.
@blazo king Good point. However Beth and Hermione are both academically smart unlike Ron so I think it still works :)
Oh my god I can't
@@Evija3000Levy's the Harry Potter here
I watched queen's gambit (I watch my queen get gambited/blundered)
Sequel should be: Jerome’s Gambit
That's what Jerome would have wanted
Or maybe Stafford Gambit, and they can cast Eric Rosen in the lead role.
Levy confidence, restraint, and production all improving massively. As a young man coming into your own, amongst a whole bunch of solid chess personalities, you're trending to make chess content better in all the right ways
Man you should see him in three years.
One thing that I found interesting in this video was the show's repeated use of adjournments as justification for the "alternate reality" versions of games that appear in it. Rather than try to claim that your fictional characters are better chess players than the historical ones who donated the source games, you can say, "oh, she had all night to theorycraft and that's why she found this more interesting line".
Thanks for the video! I'll try to remember to check out this series if I ever get back on Netflix.
yeah but thats how it actually works in chess.
@@BlueFoxx92 Not anymore, there are no adjournments because these days you can just consult and engine in the middle of a game which would be extremely powerful.
@@themakerstoolbox9688 Not really, you can learn every line in a night, or atleast 5-6 lines quite easily. If your opponent deviates, you will also know how to punish that innacuracy.
@@themakerstoolbox9688 You can quite easily learn atleast 6-7 lines in one day, since you'd be studying the game anyways it wouldn't be too difficult.
@@themakerstoolbox9688 You underestimate the ability of chess players to memorize.
Secondly if both players get to use computers, unless someone was losing already, most games would just be drawn.
Would make for very boring games.
Fischer is real life analogy of beth, sad that his ending was different
I especially appreciate seeing the Luchenko game, which had mystified me on the screen for a simple if silly reason. With the stylized chess set they used, I mistook the black King and Queen in the final position - even after freezing the shot of the board. With those pieces reversed, I could not fathom why White resigned when Qe8# looked pretty good!
Of all the games in The Queen's Gambit my favourite was chess.
Substance abuse is a close second.
@@nolanwaymire7003 They also played Uno in the Mexico city episode, but I don't really like that game.
Yo if you could do another celebrity coaching with one of the actors that would be dope
I don't think any of the actors actually play chess
@@ibefullofme That's why it would be a coaching session
@@ibefullofme the actors got coached specifically because they were going to play these roles
@@ibefullofme Anya Taylor-Joy actually decided she wanted to get a basic grasp of chess. The rest I'm not sure of.
GothamChess:
This is the final sequence of moves so this is your spoiler alert.
Me:
Like I could keep up with any of the games. in the show
im shocked, i stared at harry baltic for so long thinking he looks sooo familar. dudley man.
I recon they picked the actor b/c he has close-set eyes, to contrast with Taylor-Joy’s otherworldly wide-set eyes. He’s also a damn good actor.
@@calcramer hmm
@@calcramer why would they do that. Like what's the artistic reasoning behind that?
@@yellowhouse4911 u'd be surprised how much they care about stuff like that in cinematography
@@yellowhouse4911 it shows your subconscious "Hey! These two are polar opposites" and they continue to show that throughout the series, with Harry being so engrossed by theory while Beth plays by ear. It's a small touch, but it gets done a lot more than you'd think in most shows.
I watched the first episode yesterday and there were scenes involving her dreaming about chess and it reminded me of my old days and part of why I quit 😂 I used to see chess in my dreams all the time and would calculate moves and continue play against myself or even against someone or something that would make the moves for the other “player” (also myself I guess lol). Either way, chess took over my dreams and at first, it wasn’t all that bad as I was making progress with it, but it eventually got annoying to the point of almost driving me insane. Mind you, this was at a relatively young age much like in the show, so I was interested in other things like sports and cars and those did not mix well at the chess tournaments, but I kind of wish I had not quit and kept playing. I’m sure a lot of people have similar dreams so I guess there’s just those who like them and use them and those who don’t 😂 I do want to start playing again, as I never thought as clearly and with as much determination as I did when I was younger. Found this channel recently and am really enjoying it. Thanks!
When you see two random objects facing each other, and think "oh! The beer bottles are in opposition"
this kind of reminds me of when I started getting into tetris, and saw everything as a tetrinomino block
@@fishecake2794 Wikipedia calls it the Tetris Effect.
I still play chess in dreams even in my adulthood! Usually, the brain will visualize what you do a lot in the day, especially before sleeping!
So I'm not alone😅 😮💨, trust me I'd be playing knight moves when I see a couple of tiles on the floor , it just happens unconsciously...
So what I learned is that if I take copious amounts of tranquilizers I can beat Magnus Carlsen
Maybe Anya can join us on stream and talk chess.
I hope she starts streaming Chess! That would be awesome!
Does she even Play ?
@Stanislav Hronek Why would she start streaming chess then ? Anyway in my mind shes still the world Champion besides i would Love to See her learn to play
@Stanislav Hronek I read that she learned the basics before shooting the show
She doesn’t really play chess
Wish they could continue the series! Absolutely marvelous!
No.......... That would spoil it. You want many series followed by a 2hr grand-finale when everyone gets bored of it?
@@robl4836 I disagree maybe we could see a similar format, but with the other characters life's. It's just an idea! Have a good day!
@@EliasFieldIA oh ok, that's fine. As long as it maintains a uniqueness.
@@robl4836 Absolutely!
I feel the same way. I wish they stretched it out for an episode and took one or two liberty's earlier in the show to do so.
The Queens Gambit is a great advert for Chess especially for girls and non-Chess players. The story line is based on the American, Bobby Fischer who famously only played 1 e4 before winning Game 6 in the 1972 World Championship with The Queens Gambit against the Champion, Boris Spassky from Russia in which he sportingly congratulated Bobby on a great game and was considered the best game of the Championships. Bobby Fischer was a Chess prodigy and at 14 years old won the United States Championships. The one trait that is incorrect is the drug substance abuse as I have never come across that from any Chess player of any ability being that it would affect their game negatively. I thought the performance was excellent in which the chess games were from those played by past Masters. Adjourning a game did occur in the 1972 World Championship for which they are no longer used for many years since the development of chess engines and players playing shorter games to a finish.
BF was just an inspiration to create Harmons character, the substance abuse IMO was included to add even more complexity to Beth and make her demons more visible. Also an antagonistic force was needed in the series and the writer did not want to necessarily put this on the russians, so it was really at the end of the day Beth unleashing her ful potential despite her internal demons...
Dude, chess absolutely attracts people with easily addicted behavior patterns, they're people like anyone else. What are you on about with calling it "incorrect"? There are even genetic factors that predispose some people to be especially susceptible to addiction to alcohol and benzodiazepines, as I recall (the drug she takes in the story is in that class) and her being a chess player doesn't make her immune to that nor to her drugging as a child.
@@ItsAsparageese yea it was a tranquilzer drugt hat they made up so it would have been like ketamine that was more lucid hallucinations added to it. its interesting. im someone who has used a wide variety of drugs ove my life time. while it would b e more like strrong dxm and benzo combined which mimics what happened inc the show
@@imwithyou38 Yeah the vivid visuals in the show don't really line up with plain benzos IRL & you're correct that the drug in the show is made up! It's meant to represent a common real one at the time though. But yeah I think the chess visualization thing is more a matter of her innate ability & its relationship to the drug represents her difficulty believing in her own potential or believing she could have her skills without her addiction being fulfilled. I'm sure you know as well as I do, addiction does a great job of convincing people they need their drug just to be any kind of normal. That's why after she starts healing & enters recovery she finds herself having the visualization ability independently in the end. That's my take on it anyway, but that's probably because I'm a medical geek/I really like science accuracy, so the idea of the drug actually inducing her visuals pisses me off & I refuse to accept that it wasn't just an ability she had all along & only thought she needed the drug to unlock it, lol
"I'm not gunna bore you with the theory here" WHYYYYYYY
Because of the Queen's Gambit, i got back into chess. And as I did, I watched a ton of your videos and gained some actual insight into chess itself. And as i've done that, i've revisited the show on netflix again and again. And now I notice that in most games, Harmon not only uses her queen aggressively; she gambits her queen in most games. I'm assuming that kasparov and the director exhausted almost all first-8-move queen gambit game permutations that can be had, just to fill the show.
Botez gambit
@@mooshroom_pizza7870 in the show’s universe a “Queen’s Gambit Declined” is probably the universe where Beth succumbs to addiction and quits chess 😂
@@JoraulStreams LMAO
I think they just needed her to have a chess playing style that a wider audience could understand without knowing theory while also fitting her character. Aggressively gambitting the queen often fits that role haha. The show is also based off of the novel, where I'm assuming most of the games are similar
I loved this! Though personally having watched the show, I would have loved to see analysis on the ends of those games- spoilers be damned- because when watching I was so curious about the positions that caused each player to decide to forfeit and what made them decide that. Just my 2c.
Me, someone who knows squat about chess and is not a quick thinker: mm, yes she should've gone to D6
I loved this show. Also the passion you put in analyzing these games is really inspiring
>Me who regularly watches hour long Got Ham Chess rating climbs
But Levy I don't have TIME to watch the show!
On TH-cam there's a channel called "down the rabbit hole" (i think) who posted a great 2hr video about the 1990s kasparov vs deep blue matches.....
It's excellent
@@someoneelse293 I would also recommend it.
@@someoneelse293 Would recommend it, too! Especially if you like chess and computer science!
dang early so I have a chance to ask lol levy how did did you get to the IM title like not I won a game I want the story if you can make a video about it
lmao
On TH-cam there's a channel called "down the rabbit hole" (i think) who posted a great 2hr video about the 1990s kasparov vs deep blue matches.....
It's excellent
someone else thx for the suggestion I enjoyed it I meant by his story is how he became as strong to flex finding a premoved mate in 6 in 10 seconds when there is a mate in one
@@8900-o4x lol
I think levy is currently working on a video called road to gm. Idk when it will come out of ever. But he did mention it on stream when people asked him this question and something about titles
This show re-ignited my interest in chess. I already knew the bare-basic, but never went much deeper than that. While I don't have the dedication to start memorizing openings and whatnot, its inspired me to push more into the intermediate level
:D
Can I just say that I really enjoyed how correctly Levy pronounced The Queen's Gambit in Russian and all Russian names :)
He is Russian himself I believe
He’s Russian 😂
@@bagelized lol
i mean somehow i thought that he is based in nyc, isn't he?
but ферзевый гамбит is definitely cool :))))
me, a confused idiot: there's only one game in the queens gambit?? chess???
Just binged the show from midnight to 7am. I don't even regret it a little. Amazing!
Best TV series for years. Not just the chess elements, but overall greatness. Just perfect.
For what it's worth, I'm proud of you Levy
Gotham you fucking amazing man! Thank you for this analysis. We are all truly grateful
If Levy got rid of his beard he would look exactly like the tournament director in Moscow
binging the series while looking at the analysis after each episode is the way to watch this
This show makes me pick up chess again. Last I've played was like 8 or 10 years ago.
We need some classical backing track for our own matches for some epicness!
Wow......... Couldn't possibly thank you enough for doing what so many of us couldn't [or wouldn't] but so desperately wanted. Perfect addition to finish this incredible series. Cant wait to watch again [this and series] but with this as an accompaniment. You are the best for doing this as if u already don't work hard enough lol you are a machine!
Beth Harmon is Bobby Fischer
And Borgov is spassky
That’s how I looked at it
Benny is also Bobby Fischer, he told that chess championships deserve more attention
Nah the author said Beth Harmons character was based on Levy Rosman
Kasparov told in interview why he picked this certain games.
Thank you for this video! I've got inspired to learn to play chess from this series and that's how I landed on your channel :)
I think this video really suffered from you trying to avoid spoilers. I think you should've analysed the full games and it would've been way more interesting.
Thanks for all of the effort that went into this video, Levy. So entertaining and instructional. Love the work that you are doing. As long as you are doing it, I will be watching.
On TH-cam there's a channel called "down the rabbit hole" (i think) who posted a great 2hr video about the 1990s kasparov vs deep blue matches.....
It's excellent
anyone else watched the series and just get frustrated at this video for not explaining till the end?
great analysis for a chess noob like me. cant wait to learn more from your channel, keep it up
Your knowledge and prep for these videos are extremely impressive. Great work!
Hi Levy..., Excellent, excellent, and excellent ( commentary ) with some annotated comments... The movie was great and "Levy"..., you were great. From your first words..., you had me clued to the screen and enjoying everything in the Netflix movie/film and your game and movie comments... * I am very ( proud ) of you and the movie, chess games, and comments, and thank you for sharing the video... You made the video happen, and Beth and her co-stars made the film happen... * Once again, thank you for sharing the video... " Semper Fi " Mike in Montana P.S.: I wish and hope for a Season 2...; however, with all the lawsuits going back and forth..., I don't know ! :)
It’s so interesting because in the book when she plays Borgov for the first time (who is also depicted as being shorter and more stout in the book lol) they play the Ruy Lopez. Wonder why they went with the Sicilian in the show. Either way they did an amazing job with the show
13:05 I didn't like how Beth's attitude towards endgame studies was depicted. She basically dismisses them as useless because they do not develop from real games. But this is definitely not, how most masters think about them. For example English GM John Nunn regards them as a tremendous development tool for endgame technique despite being not "real". I know the movie follows the book by Walter Tevis faithfully, but I wished the film makers had deviated from the book. It shows that Tevis was a chess enthusiast, but not on a master level.
I really hope there is another video where you say how it happens in the end for everyone who has already watched it.
I literally started rewatching this fantastic show today and whioe watching actually bought what i think is your book? "How to win at chess" and a new chess board (this show has effects on me 😅
Whenever I watched her very first game with the janitor, after he brought the bishop out on move 2, I was like, “oh no she’s gonna fall for the scholar’s mate.” And then she did and I laughed so hard 😂
Gotham: Borgov plays a move that Beth didn't see, she might be in trouble
me: ok
Magnus: the draw offer was insulting he should have resigned moves ago
me: oh
Awesome analysis, btw!
What I loved about this is that the big game doesn't end with a resignation after a dramatic check, nor even with an easy-to-understand-but-terribly-cliche queen capture, let alone an actual checkmate. No, it's Beth sliding the king over one square, depriving Borgov of any more checks. You don't have to know chess to enjoy the series, but if you do, the chess is just *chef's kiss*.
Normal people: Watch the movie, enjoy it and forget about it.
Chess Nerds: *Depth 600 analysis**
Wait, she was Bobby Fischer?
Always has been.
I think Benny Wats is Fisher
Beth seems to be female version of bobby fischer
when i first heard of this show i was expecting it to be bad due netflix putting propaganda in many of its shows that destroys the show but this was an amazing show and the first full netflix series ive seen
propaganda???
@@Geompro yes
Your russian pronouncing of "ферзевый гамбит" is so good😊
Really cool analysis! I found it difficult to follow what was happening while watching the show so it's great to see the different games deconstructed here :) Keep up the great content!
Can I say how tragic it is that Netflix didn't consult Hikaru and end up with a super serious and dramatic Bongcloud opening?
Thank god anti stress for the election
Do you know who is in the lead?
@@annaflouri Yea Electoral college and popular vote is Biden, still a lot of states undecided
aaaaawesome work dude! love it and love you
If u recognise Harry from “Just William”, as the annoying poet brother, u are a real one
Also showed up in The Devil all the Time, that Tom Holland Robert Pattinson movie
Loved the game against Luchenko, so wholesome and probably the only game in the show where Beth respects his oponent lol
Finally live! Great work Levy.
Your left audio channel is sometimes clipping, maybe you can think of a reason this can be on your end? Can be annoying sometimes
I wonder if Kasparov knew TH-cam would break down these clips to this degree, or if it was just his personal integrity as a consultant that drove him to create these novelties, and I also wonder what GMs are hoping after this series to be able to give input on a follow up or similar show
They really gave so little pretentiousness to the level of chess that was being acted, and it's great to see how appreciated it all was by a pretty niche community
Kasparov is *very* self aware and that, in addition to his professional pride, drove him. IMO
@@josiahbrush4324 but we've also seen him get salty to a point which shows he doesn't understand the exact way things apply for social media. I'm just wondering whether he understood the scope of what this show could be vs just getting a pay check, loving the beauty of the game, and knowing your name's on it and some people might check it out
Gary Kasparov worked on the Queens Gambit? Dang now I have to watch it!
yes
sulde zulaa bid 3 uzev! nice shu bro
Goy shuu broji ♥️
Kkkk❤️
no
It was a fine series, but the protagonist was somewhat lacking -- it seemed like what she really wanted was to pop pills and stare at the ceiling.
Ooh I've watched two episodes already, maybe soon I'll find time to finish the series. Thank you for taking such care to not spoil anything
17:32 i’ve seen the show a few times already and I’m not sure what he’s talking about... help!
The show was stunningly accurate and realistic. The amount of simping a beautiful female received in a male dominated game was brilliantly portrayed.
Loved the series; it got me back into playing after decades off.
Also loved the analysis. Great work.
Beautifully put-together presentation. Thank you. I appreciated the accuracy of the chess in the series, but could never have delved this deeply. Wonderful work.
Says there are no spoilers... spoilers the winner and loser of every major game in the show lol.
Still a good video tho
When Borgov & Beth clasped hands I cry every time
*4:30** Why didn't Beltik's rook take beth's bishop?*
Beth Harmon is clearly based on Levys life. Everything about Beth is exactly how Levy grew up and lives.... as a proud subscriber of Gothamchess on twitch I felt a lot closet to Levy after watching and I think his courage to overcome the obstacles he did in life is incredible and an example to us all.
Are you a Russian? Because I was really amazed of your Russian pronunciation
Hi! I really enjoy your analysis! However, for those who are new to chess it is hard to visualize the last few moves of the games you’re addressing. It would be helpful for us novices for you to explain the games through to the end. Although that may seem tedious to some, especially those who are experts, but for many I think it would be exceedingly beneficial. Thanks!
2024 but I had to see this video. Thanks, Levy!
Thank you for your hard work on this video Levy, it was great and cleared up a lot of confusion from the games in the Queen's Gambit series
Great video, thanks! There was also the Morphy "opera game" shown during her speed chess session in that NY basement.
Good job on the analysis. I love the show as well. I never played chess before. Happy to see the different TH-cam videos and mobile apps to get a beginner started. Thank you.
it is a great presentation but it is quite boring when you do not show the end of the game
good job I followed this with the series and I caught every bit of it... pretty nice..I be following it word for words
The only thing i wish they did was spend a little more time showing the positions on the board. It kind of felt like they sped through every game she played in the show, i couldnt keep up with the positions. Fantastic show overall though.
Same. They show the actors head and shoulder shots during play, but not what was being played. Then again, I guess it's similar to filming an actor playing as a pianist: very few could pull off a convincing performance so we don't see an actors hands on the keyboard. So here we don't see the actors here having to actually play chess (although they could have just followed queue cards / prompters). I'm sure the filmmakers had their reasons. But there was so much about the show to love, regardless.