Model P: Underrated, But Underpowered

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  • @PhoenixYT9838
    @PhoenixYT9838  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +27

    The Model L Video is Out! Watch It Here: th-cam.com/video/haqx55yvuxQ/w-d-xo.htmlsi=9TyQe3faQIN9cNqR
    Subtitles are up. At 14:00, I say the same thing twice. I have no idea how I didn’t notice this 💀At 14:33, I didn't say some certain words that are in the subtitles, idk how I didn't notice that either

    • @jonathanhargraves2241
      @jonathanhargraves2241 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Dope🤌🏿

    • @chimuoma390
      @chimuoma390 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Phoenix,PLEASE DO MODEL OX AFTER MODEL L!!!!!!!!!!

    • @Tian-rd1bg
      @Tian-rd1bg 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      i laughed so hard at 14 min its almost like a AI made voice XD,
      but great video loved to watch every sec 1+ sub i waiting to see my main model L video

    • @razi_man
      @razi_man 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Minor nitpick, Vent says "rokku on" and not just "rokku".

    • @PhoenixYT9838
      @PhoenixYT9838  6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@razi_man fixed that, I forgot that as I was writing the subtitles from my script for this video, thanks for reminding me!

  • @TheTruestZero
    @TheTruestZero 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +81

    When I first played Megaman ZX and getting Model P, I played a hella lot of of him because he was a freaking Robot Ninja and pretty much did a challenge run with only him as soon as I grabbed the PX.

  • @jruler93
    @jruler93 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +63

    So what I'm gathering here is that Model PX is the underrated one, while Siarnaq is the underpowered one.
    As someone who loves PX and has repeatedly tried to love Siarnaq, that's how I feel, anyway.

    • @demi-femme4821
      @demi-femme4821 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

      Seriously, between no Overdrive, no Shadow Dash, Shuriken being downgraded to a level 2 and made exclusive to Grey, and no Shield, it's basically lost all but a sliver of its ultility.

    • @asteroidrules
      @asteroidrules 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

      ZXA nerfed most of the biometals by removing overdrive and nerfing their charge shots, because Model P was already the weakest of the bunch Siarnaq becomes underpowered.

    • @BeautyMarkRush
      @BeautyMarkRush 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      ​@@demi-femme4821I mean, even without the Overdrive, the Shuriken was still pretty useful in ZX. The lv 2 charge is the worst part here, imo. I kinda like that Ashe's shield basically slashes everything that gets near, though, it gives her more freedom to move around in stages. Regardless, it's ironic that the assassin dude is the worst against bosses lol

  • @skyrogue1977
    @skyrogue1977 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +19

    Phantom overall was doomed to being screwed over.

    • @Jaxionisnum2
      @Jaxionisnum2 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Just like how he was the only one of the 4 to die in the first game☠️

  • @SuperFitzieZX
    @SuperFitzieZX 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    What a great analysis! I can’t wait to see what you have planned for Model L

  • @bryceknowles1380
    @bryceknowles1380 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Never understand why Model P didn’t go ham on the whole ninja esthetic? Yeah you can throw shurikens, but what if you had a beam katana, make shadow clones, teleport, etc. Hell the claws you use to grip onto ceilings could’ve been used like the Z-Knuckle from Zero 4.

    • @paradox2210
      @paradox2210 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      The shadow clones would have been a great ability to have if they could be used similarly to the Argoyle / Ugoyle combo ability or Soul Body. Phantom's sword would have been a great addition to Model P as well and I’m not sure why they didn’t include it since it’s one of Phantom's primary methods of attack.

  • @fuyu848
    @fuyu848 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    The nostalgic flows back through time and space

  • @JohnnyTightlips2007
    @JohnnyTightlips2007 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    I also found that Model PX is handy to get through the spike pit with shifting blocks because it can anchor to the ceiling so if you need to get the timing back, you can do that.

  • @BeautyMarkRush
    @BeautyMarkRush 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    I liked model P's idea, but I always felt it was underpowered or that it had little space to shine, since H overshadows a lot of P's abilities (like stages don't really explore them as you can just use H and achieve the same result, and the dark rooms in area I are optional), specially in ZX, SPECIALLY the ceiling-hang-climb in ZX (ZXA made a better use of it for a single f-ing sidequest, ffs). And since I kill everything that's in my way, shadow-dash was only useful for the subtank run at the volcano area for me (yes, I used to, and still to this day, do the whole Lab area with model H bc f it).
    When I first played ZX, I immediately thought I would use P more if it had an alternate, single, multidirectional shot, somewhat like Axl in x8 (without the "hold for rapid fire"). ZXA fixed that with the "radar" kunai, but then they totally nerfed Siarnaq, and the legacy collection then proceeded to make the "radar" kunai basically unusable. 🤦‍♂️ They could've at least enabled touchscreen input for the Switch and Steam (Deck) versions.

  • @ungars1312
    @ungars1312 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    Everybody says that model P is underrated but really the one who nobody talks about for me is model F

    • @BeautyMarkRush
      @BeautyMarkRush 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      I used it/atlas all the time. I mean, it took them 20 years to make a mega man lift its arm 90 degrees. Let's just appreciate that.

  • @ScreamyngYoshi
    @ScreamyngYoshi 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Another dumb tidbit: In ZXA, even though both P charges use 2 pixels of energy, you *cannot* charge if you have less than 4 energy.

    • @ezelalia5739
      @ezelalia5739 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Huh, kind of weird, is it a coding problem or a glitch?

    • @ScreamyngYoshi
      @ScreamyngYoshi 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@ezelalia5739 Considering how ZXA was rushed, and how a lot of the forms feel incomplete, I believe that Model P was hastily thrown in there, changing a few things, removing their lv1 charges, changing their lv2s, and leaving it at that.

  • @the120cxx
    @the120cxx 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I didnt even know about the shield, curse my lack of a instruction booklet...

  • @Marz776
    @Marz776 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Anything with a shield boomerang is broken in my eyes

  • @MagoDraws
    @MagoDraws หลายเดือนก่อน

    I’m actually kinda surprised to hear about Model P(x) having a rather negative reception since I actually remember myself using it quite a lot when I first played it (even while not understanding the full potential of it). Though I’m pretty sure I mainly used it because I thought that both Model P and Px looked cool.

  • @fishball3079
    @fishball3079 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I remember as a kid i used to spam primary/sub attack with model F/P to kill mini boss afap, good times.

  • @therighttrousers343
    @therighttrousers343 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    I like it for phase 1 albert, dunno if it's the best, probably far from it, but it still mashes fine enough on it cos phase 1 al doesn't have i frames.

    • @jruler93
      @jruler93 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I think the optimal strat for Dragon Albert is using Vent/Aile, doing two triple slashes and popping a charge shot, rinse and repeat.
      But kunai spam is good too, if that's what you want to do.

    • @PhoenixYT9838
      @PhoenixYT9838  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      P isn’t bad, but ZX and F are way better for it

    • @PrinceSilvermane
      @PrinceSilvermane 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Model F is better if you mash both attack buttons, you can kill it in seconds if you're fast enough with it.

  • @TheSqueakerNerd
    @TheSqueakerNerd 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    This is awesome stuff. Thanks for the research. This will come in handy later when I get back to the ZX games.
    Also, do you still have a discord? The link in the description I wasn't able to join.
    Enjoyed the video & have a nice day everyone.

    • @PhoenixYT9838
      @PhoenixYT9838  6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thanks! I love seeing these videos get good responses, shows I’m putting my all into them and it’s paying off.
      Also, this link right here should work: discord.gg/7sm9dtDkSs
      If it doesn’t work add me on discord, it’s phoenixyt9838 with a Blast Man pfp.

    • @TheSqueakerNerd
      @TheSqueakerNerd 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@PhoenixYT9838 yeah! No problem.

  • @unknownfactor6489
    @unknownfactor6489 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    I think you meant underrated AND underpowered

  • @tsyumamatsuthehavenofguard32
    @tsyumamatsuthehavenofguard32 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Honestly my problem with it is by the time you get it feels underwhelming, like if this was the _first_ one you get, then i could find some serious use out of because the touch screen kunai is great at hitting the mavericks without weaknesses or weakspots being dented

  • @jmcop30
    @jmcop30 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    My ultimate combo for bosses that spend a lot of time on the ground in advent will always be: freeze time -> kunai spam... then you get model zx and the spin move kills anything in seconds so every other model becomes useless in combat

  • @gideonantonissen6275
    @gideonantonissen6275 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I actually didn't know that Model P could make an shield this is surprising to me

  • @kyronhoward9935
    @kyronhoward9935 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Can’t wait for the Model O video

    • @SHADOMEGA7569
      @SHADOMEGA7569 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      good ol Model OVADRIVE!

    • @PhoenixYT9838
      @PhoenixYT9838  6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Same thing here! It's gonna be very fun, albeit very long, to make. I'm doing the last of the Guardian Models, and then Model A before it, I cannot come up with a title for the Model OX Video to save my life

  • @wethefreeproductions
    @wethefreeproductions 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Always wanted my purple model to be Model-V, but I still enjoyed being a ninja and mumbling Tenchu quotes.

  • @Danonino-yb5dh
    @Danonino-yb5dh 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    why the choosen ones from zxa have different attacks than Vent/Alie even the fact those two have the power from model X combined?

    • @thehevandragon
      @thehevandragon หลายเดือนก่อน

      Because your only copying the individual models (outside of ZX) and on top of that you don’t have Model X so no Overdrive.

  • @turinmormegil7715
    @turinmormegil7715 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    My greatest grief with it is that it is not as good as it should be considering the trouble you go through to get it. And the game makes poor use of his mechanics: it doesn't give much opportunity to use it, nor many places where he is actually necessary (in combat I mean, not to unlock a new path)

  • @silkwind7618
    @silkwind7618 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    MMZX version of Model P should have a Sword because its user Sharnaq has a blade weapon on his back.

  • @vaughnrudy8084
    @vaughnrudy8084 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I put my weapon buttons on the shoulder buttons so I can mash both of those while doing dash jumps to do Hella damage

  • @MegaManXmyBeloved
    @MegaManXmyBeloved 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Bros a machine gun

  • @capt.bellamy
    @capt.bellamy 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    OMG I've played these games and used him because he looked cool but was useless never knew he had other moves

  • @dustintroydeguzman5411
    @dustintroydeguzman5411 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Poor Px getting nerfed as F in Zx:A understandable though as Shuriken + Kunai, Shuriken + Overdrive and Kunai + Overdrive was strong. A good Px who mastered those three attacks and can chain them could melt the enemies, stages and bosses in seconds.

    • @bestaround3323
      @bestaround3323 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      I mean it was still weaker than HX

    • @dustintroydeguzman5411
      @dustintroydeguzman5411 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@bestaround3323 Without Overdrive yes, with Overdrive Px wins hands down.

    • @bestaround3323
      @bestaround3323 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@dustintroydeguzman5411 No

  • @HawkBreland
    @HawkBreland 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    badass

  • @joshtheryuk
    @joshtheryuk 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    How did i never know about the shield? Wtf
    And i never know about the Radar Kunai as well lol

  • @Byrdstar6423-un3me
    @Byrdstar6423-un3me 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I literally beat the game with this model lol so fun and spammy

  • @Raylightsen
    @Raylightsen 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    If is underpowered is not underrated.

  • @Chale1288
    @Chale1288 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Interesting

  • @Double303
    @Double303 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    How is P Underrated when Model L has a charge which is a block of ice and no combo in the slash? It's just 1 slash...

    • @PhoenixYT9838
      @PhoenixYT9838  6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I get what you’re saying, I’ll hopefully explain that and why it isn’t underrated in the Model L Video.