DIY Speaker With Subwoofer Hits Down to 35 Hz! - DINAS - Active Bookshelf Speakers Collab w/ 123Toid
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- DIY Speaker With Subwoofer Hits Down to 35 Hz! - DINAS - Active Bookshelf Speakers Collab w/ 123Toid.
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This DIY speaker build was interesting in that we challenged ourselves to try something different. We went with a 3-Way DIY Active Speaker based on another DIY subwoofer called the Voxel by Paul Carmody. The plate amplifiers we used are generally used for a DIY 2.1 speaker system but instead, we decided to use one amp per speaker.
The plans are available on 123Toid's Etsy: bit.ly/DinasBuildPlans
Here are the parts used:
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Tang Band W5 1138SMF - bit.ly/TangBandW5JNT
Dayton Audio RS100-4 Ful-Range Driver - bit.ly/DaytonRS1004JNT
HiVi TN28B Tweeter - bit.ly/HiViTN28BJNT
Lepai LP210PA - bit.ly/LepaiLP210PAJNT
19V 4.74A Power Supply - bit.ly/19voltPSU
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Fantastic video Joe! I'm glad you are enjoying the DINAS. Amazing review. it was an honor and a great experience working with you.
Can you make a pair more and ship to denmark :)
@@GRAAmusic haha, I'm not sure that Denmark would be very cost-effective. However I have had a few people buy the plans overseas and they're having other people build the cabinets for them. So that's always an option
@@Toid I will do that then. :) love the build.
Hey Can you make a Video how a completely Passive Version Sound Look like? ( the Crossover)
I'm not planning on it since this was designed to be active. I'm sure it could be done. Just need to properly crossover the woofer to the full-range driver.
This looks like such a fun project. I’m already envisioning little tweaks and personalizations I could do, like maybe cutting out a little scoop on top for that tweeter B&W style. Thanks Joe and Toid for contributing something that I’m sure is going to make a lot of people really happy!
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Now I've gotta build these. They look great. As for volume, you could wire a Linkwitz-Riley 3-way active crossover into those amplifiers w/o much work. At 24db/octave rollover, it should reduce the distortion noticeably, but it will cost another $200. It won't be louder, but it will sound louder than they do without the crossovers. I did that with 3-way JBL Pro speakers and a Denon 5803 AVR (6 x 170W MOSFETs), replacing a nightmare passive crossover & a pair of jacked-up and bridged Hafler amps. The max SPL didn't really change: 117db at 1M now, vs 116db with passive, but it sounds a LOT louder, a lot cleaner, w/ a lot of low-end gut-punch.
Nice speakers. Good work guys.
Though you have me wondering how they'd do with a chamferred port instead of a slot.
this is the kinda setup I wanted to build, LOVE IT! Unfortunately I'm stuck in apartment living so I'll be sticking a 6 inch woofer down below, but this just gives me SO MANY Ideas
Tang band drivers are underrated as shit. I worked with and listen to a lot of higher end drivers (Seas Excel, Scan-Speak, vifa/peerless, accuton etc) and Tang bands are damn good for their price.
Wow, that's good to hear coming from someone who seems to have a good amount of experience with different drivers.
wavecor is another company that reaches the quality of seas excel, scan speak but at a lower price point. they also have interesting tweeter with a waveguide which gives you a better time alignment
This is Amazing!!! Exactly what I've been looking for and would be nice for a project too.
Fantastic job guys!! Reminds my of my Avantone Abbey's, get really really low for their size. Love to see more bookshelf 3 ways.
With my space and budget constraints, this is exactly what i'm looking for. Even the wood design matches the rest of my house! I love it. Please take my money!
listening to this on my own set of DIY DINAS! I decided to build mine without the tweeter they still sound great.
This is awesome. Very very interesting. Amazing job Joe. Thanks for the video, as always. Because of such crazy awesome videos, this is one of my toplist favourite channel on TH-cam ..
This is a great job guys. Well done for the use case. Tempted to build for desktop speakers.
I haven't heard anything better at my desk.
Great looking speakers! I wish I had the means to build these myself! It would be a very fun project.
Follow the links, someone is making the panels, all you have to do is glue it together. $100
I think that's @123toid.
Cool DIY speakers. If you could review RBH Sound Impression series bookshelves sometime that would be awesome. They're in the price range of the speakers you review and are supposed to be really solid speakers.
I LITERALLY NEED THESE IN MY LIFE
Makes me want to build a speaker again! Does this hiss at all? (Disconnect your inputs to test to make sure it's not them.)
Very quiet
I built a speaker for use with my Icom IC-7100 radio which uses a Dayton RS100-4. Many ham operators use cheap, 2-way speakers with their radios, but I wanted a single driver which could cover the entire range of the human voice with no crossover. The speaker I built using the RS100-4 is the best sounding communications speaker I've ever heard. It even sounds good with the IC-3100 tuned to FM broadcast! I'm sure the RS100-4 works great in your DINAS, because it keeps the crossover out of the all-important mid-range band.
Thanks for sharing that. It seems like a successful project.
My non commercial dream speakers.!!! I would really love to hear the music that upload in those BEASTS.!!! Those speakers include so much passion in them...!!!
Fantastic build. Love it.
I'd love to see a tower version of these.
🤔🤔🤔
Yes, I was thinking of building a tower with 4 of these in each box. 72 mm xmax and almost the same cone area as a 15".
@@joentell how u listen this in stereo mode .......
2.1 ch in amp in each side .....
Both left and right ch is in same side of each 2.1 ch 😂 ..........
Then
How u listen in stereo mode .........
I have a solution ......
Each 3.5 mm jack have .. LGR wire ....
Provide LG wire only on left side Amp
And RG wire only on right side Amp
You should really rate the HSU HB1 Mk2 on your leaderboard. I would love to see where they land! Keep in mind they do require some break in, but damn they sound amazing with good power. I use a Bryston 3b with them.
Great video Joe. I love the design criteria and execution.
Hey Joe thanks for the review.....enjoyed it....I would like to make these on a larger scale for recording studio reference speakers. could you point me in the right direction of parts I would need for a similar outcome. Thanks
would perfect if this has balanced TRS or XLR
These Speakers look great and seem to be really awesome! Just started looking into DYO speakers. How is the usability as Studio monitors? Do you have a chance to compare them to Adams or Focals? Or would you rate them as Hifi Speaker?
I've rated them for desktop use and for use as bookshelf speakers on my speaker leaderboard. Did you get to see that part of the video? I haven't tested Focals or Adam.
I would have built a pair of these for that wonderful bass, but I got my hands on a pair of ADS L810's that I have on this desktop and they're easily the best-sounding speakers I've ever heard. I was told they were used as monitors back in the day. Same 35htz bottom end, and 3-way. But, slightly more expensive than these DINAS. Great job.
Those are much larger also
I'd like to see a D.I.Y. speaker project with built-in amplification and DSP for correction. Especially with (sub-)woofer protection; louder volumes dial down the bass and low volumes allow accentuation to flatten the frequency response.
You’re awesome, Joe! I don’t know how you have the time and ideas for your videos, but I really appreciate them. Thank you!
It is good you were able to get the interviews to cushion the blow of less reviews during your move. Good luck with it, hopefully you enjoy the new space you get!!
Yes, exactly. And thank you!
Wow thank you for this information I've have been wanting too builf some my self Thanks
Thanks for the review because I just ordered some of those subs
Nice Collab! I may need to put these on my project list!
If only you knew the designer...
Would it be worth it to swap the Altec Lansing 6" subwoofer on my old 2004 MX5021 with tang or even Dayton version? Or is that a can of worms blending it in? I like my old mini system..but that bass could be tighter.
I'm not sure what the bottleneck is on that system. It could be the amplifier.
I have done just that on my Altec ADA 995 sub. Replaced both drivers with 2x Peerless 830946 drivers. It was good before, now its insane. It doesnt do 35 Hz simply because the ports are not tuned for that, they are tuned for 40 Hz. But it has so much power at that frequency that its making all doors and windows vibrate viciously. The bedroom door I believe it hits its resonant frequency, vibrates louder than the sub is playing, so if I were to play a 40hz tone loud enough for long enough, that door would eventually rip itself off the hinges. In short, stock Altec drivers are nowhere near as good as Tangbands, so upgrading them with something decent, produces a tremendous jump in quality and quantity of bass. DO IT.
I have MX5021 2.1 which I use for TV sound. The built-in amp died (they all do and are impossible to repair due to insane digital tone, balance and volume controls), so I replaced it with one of these 2.1 amps. It is far better than the original Altec Lansing amp - much cleaner, more powerful sound, and surprisingly loses most of the treble harshness. I left the sub and satellite speakers as they were, just removed the old amp and transformer from the sub box, threw away the wired controlled, and fixed the new plate amp in the old hole. Well worth doing.
I prefer the Tang Band W6-1139SI (6.5") paired with the Dayton Audio RS100-4 and Peerless BC25SC06-04. I built them in a D'Appolito configuration with amazing results; no extra subwoofers required.
Man I wish I could buy these already assembled
That would be awesome huh. Maybe one day. @123toid offers a flat pack so you don't need to cut the would. Just glue everything together, paint it and wire it up.
@@joentell I would totally be interested in a flat pack for these? @123toid how do I get ahold of these?
What is the response curve without the tweeter? I'm interested in building as a 2-way. Thx!
Good question. I don't know. 123Toid would know
I really want these but I have an Alesis RA-100 for power. Would be interested in a passive version.
Dude, When I built my first cabinets back in 92' I made them with the slotted port at the bottom. Being I was only 16 at the time I never saw anyone use this method and now I see it a lot. Also, back then people thought I was crazy to use Birch ply for the cabinets and now I see a lot of people doing that as well. I know I didn't start anything but man, it sure feels that way.
That's awesome! Maybe you have good instincts.
It's also soooo much easier to get a decent looking finish with birch instead of MDF.
@@johnbewty MDF sucks to finish. You have to seal it really well first. I've done some high gloss finishes, but it took me days.
You did it first bro! I believe you!
I had birch plyskeamers I made in the early 80s, nothing new.
I'm late getting to this build, but GREAT JOB! I build speakers all the time, and I usually go against the grain with them. Thanks for the inspiration!
Thanks!
My yamaha floorstanders hit to 29Hz, and yes you DO need a tweeter, never rely on a midbass driver to deliver proper treble, its not happening. these lepai plate amps could be the perfect solution to desktop audio though.
No you don't need a tweeter , a Great full range speaker will do just that Fullrange , Look at Fostex drivers for instance or TangBand .
@@TheTechGuyYT "never rely on midbass driver to deliver proper treble"
Midbass drivers rarely go over 5khz, even good fullrange driver like you mentioned start to drop off over 16khz but due to nature of our ears we barely notice it. 2 Way vs full range will always be better.
Dope!!!!!!
0:02 - No no no, Joe .. Your sorry is not accepted .. I'm being greedy here .. Post such amazing amazing amazing videos as frequently as possible .. Just kidding, never mind .. But truly, you are doing a great job. And once again thank you and keep posting ..
Paper speake cones are tough to beat. There have been many different materials used in woofers over the years, but paper is still the top choice of most builders. Now this is kind of an interest design for another reason, besides what the commentator tells us. I have several drivers I’ve bought for other projects, but I never completed them for various reasons. So, I’ve got some Dayton Audio 10” inch woofers. I’ve also got a pair of Silver Flute 6.5” mid woofers I was going to put in my car. But after the original speakers were broken in I didn’t need them fir my car. I can use those down to 50Hz. With the active crossover of this system I can cross them anywhere they sound the best. I’ve lost got a pair of 2” dome midrange made by Peerless in the 80’s, but mine are in great shape and sound awesome. The only thing I don’t have are tweeters. I do have a pair of Peerless rectangle snapped some tweeters that I used with this some mids, but they just don’t have that extra something. I like the tweeters he uses here. So I might use the same drivers h uses here and use the 10” woofers to reinforce the bass of the desk speakers, but that’s something that I’ll have to figure our in the room I’m going to use them in. I could always sell the 10” woofers to help fund this build, so, we’ll see how thing’s pan out, but I could theoretically build a set of four way speakers with these, a pair of towers with labyrinth patrician for the very low frequencies, a pair of silver flats from 100hz to 1000 Hz, the dome mids from 1000 Hz p to where ever the tweeters will come in and then the tweeters. I could save the silver flutes for rear channel surrounds using the same tweeters as the Dinas. Or I could use to hem on top of the dinas to widen the soundstage up front. It could bud a lot of fun to figure out!
Great build. Fantastic results guys. I think a nice big scallop between the tweeter and the mid might help with increasing listening sweet spot.
Great idea!
I’m still not sold on that RS100 for the midrange when you’ve got it sandwiched between a great (sub) woofer and tweeter. I’ve heard it’s a fantastic speaker, but there are tons of great 2-4” options that I think could be a little cheaper and get you a flatter response through the mids. Of course then you’re stuck working out a crossover, which could eat up any money you saved real quick. Hopefully I can build a pair myself soon and do some experimenting! That’s what diy speakers are all about, right?
Can you recommend such alternatives? I'm interested.
Exactly. The RS100 is a good fullrange but there are better ones out there. Lately, I feel like it is getting more and more transparant that 123toid is on Parts Express' payroll. Not sure how to feel about that to be honest....
He's not on their payroll! Lol. Some of you jump to these conclusions a bit too fast. He clearly states as I do that we get stuff for free from some of these companies in exchange for a review of that product. We also can set up an account with a 3rd party to receive a TINY commission for each product sold using our affiliate link.
We ain't getting rich over here buddy. Speaking for myself, I support the channel more than it supports me. I've worked for free for the first year.
If you're enjoying the videos, just enjoy them and don't wrongfully accuse people of being on the "payroll" when they aren't. It's a bit of an insult. I've been my own boss for 15+ years. I am not on anyone's payroll because I don't want anyone telling me what to do. 👊🙏
Bogdan Serban I’d start with the Dayton TCP115 to see how a $10 woofer would compare. If that didn’t work I’d try the DS115, DA115, DS90, or DSA90 if I wanted to stick with Dayton in the $20 range (which I probably would). You could also try the Peerless SLS-85S25CP04-04 or Fountek FW100B, also under $20.
Vincent Koster I mentioned this same point on an earlier video and it was Joe that said he just really liked the look of the RS100, so I’m not sure that was Toid’s doing entirely. And I really like Dayton and Parts Express, for what it’s worth, and they’ve never paid me anything. They’re just easy to work with because they have tons of options, they’re generally well made, and they publish all the specs you could want making them very easy to model. Parts Express has a fantastic website, huge catalogue, and great service. It’s just as likely in my mind that 123toid likes Daytons and Parts Express for the same reasons I like them, and nothing more.
This without a doubt your best and most useful videos because I've seen a similar but larger build compared to this. Birch kicks the crap out of MDF because Birch could get it done without bracing. No, that tweeter (I've used in two builds) the screen about even with the front. I didn't nail mine down and moved it around.
@slow mazda Wood does matter and it has NOTHING to do with pores LOL! Again. Hard Woods DO NOT NEED to be BRACED in 90% of their installs or applications. Even Pro Cabinets like Markbass, Orange, Fender, Mesa, Ampeg, and etc. DON'T brace or deaden their enclosures. Yes, I've heard the BS from KEF fanboys.
Awesome build!!!
Bell is on 🔔🔔🔔
First I see the "kid rock ct 276" now I think it's better to spend lil bit more money and build your speakers! THX für die Offenbarung 🔊🔊🔊
I still run speedsters by Paul Carmody and I even have run them in MTM T-Lines. I love Paul’s designs. Glad to hear you guys taking it a step further. The drivers are pretty awesome.
Hey Joe! Brilliant collab here, absolutely love it. In fact I was just about to buy a pair of ai60 but I might go with the Dinas instead. One problem though, I'm following all the links to get the parts for this build but I can't find the speaker enclosure. Any help with this?
You have to either build it yourself or contact 123Toid on his Etsy. He will be selling pre-cut parts soon.
@@joentell Perfect! My friend and I will be picking up a pair of all the parts for this build. We were hoping you two had plans to sell the enclosure too. Exciting stuff, thanks Joe!
Ask 123toid on his Etsy. I know he's been mentioning selling the cut wood also.
Ronsoloplz. I am not sure if you heard, but the enclosures are for sale on my Etsy TD Audio
have not been online for a while. But damn. Well done guys! Looking insane !
An excellent build.
is there a detailed build video for these speakers? they are absolutely amazing
I've seen the plan and they're pretty detailed. Also, @123toid can respond to any of your build questions.
Do you know if it would be possible to build a set like you have here, but that allows for multiple line inputs (especially some balanced TRS, that would be great), and mixes all inputs? I have multiple computers/devices I want to play through a single sound system, but without toggling between them. I have a system that works right now, but it's a bit janky.
Hi, I wondering why you use just 2 Channels from the plate amp? I bought the plans and builded the speakers by myself. Is it too much power having 30 Watts for high and another 30 watts for the mid range speaker? So fare I love the dinas. I struggled I bit with inches to mm because the wood in Germany is thinner or thicker the 0.5 inches. Cheers Frank
for any Australians, the total cost for the build including shipping comes to $575 Aud
Champion....cheers
I’ve had this polk audio sound bar with what I believe to be a 6” subwoofer. For being such a small driver, this sub really shows out... I’ve had to take pictures, paintings, etc. off of the wall in the room just because of how bad it would rattle. Impressive for a 6 inch subwoofer, yes, but still not comparable to a much larger driver such as a 12”.... the highs and miss of the sound bar are impressive as well, and can get almost too loud, but yet I find it rare to be ear piercing. Nothing but good review for a somewhat inexpensive Polk sound bar and sub. 👌🏻
Oh great, now I want to make some. Suggestion for a wicked midrange: a full range Faital pro. Just use it as a mid crossed over where you need. Total transparency like a scan speak. Very low cost , especially for how good it is.
Hey Joe! I´m a big fun of your channel, Learning a lot from you.Good stuff !!
A question my friend: What do you thing about opposed subwoofer drivers for DINAS? (like the Bearfoot Sound ones). Im planning to build a pair of DINAS with two Tang Bang in each side oppossed in a sealed cabin. Your advice would be great!
Cheers
Marco
Cool idea having a 3 way speaker that reliably handles a full range of frequencies. Is it setup so every driver crosses over and none of the drivers play the same frequency range? Would be a dream speaker for smaller rooms, not needing a sub and having less clutter in an office.
Yes, we made sure the crossover points were smooth and complimentary. The crossover for the woofer is adjustable as is the level.
Thanks for this interesting video. 35 Hz is not just a challenge for bookshelf speakers but even for most other speakers in general. However, what means 35 Hz? At what noise level? By the way, the Dynaudio Crafft is still a great sounding benchmark for bookshelf speakers being able to show no significant drop down at 50 Hz
-3db.
Those look awesome man! Very cool that you guys ventured into building something from the ground up. Very impressive
That's a big compliment from a guy who does his own countertops! Those came out great btw.
@@joentell Ha! Thanks man! DIY stuff is so much fun... I seriously might have to look into building these later this year when I get a few other projects done. I do need some computer speakers... you guys really pulled off a great looking setup. I'm sure they sound awesome
I'm sure those 3 x 24" woofers got you spoiled, but these hit for a desk situation. I'm sure you would appreciate that they do for their size.
I'd love to see you do a design that uses a passive radiator on top
35hz, impressive
Hey guys can anyone give me a link to who out there makes a great sum plate amp?? The ones you find in "powered" home audio systems. Im in Australia and Im struggling to find anything decent with atleast 300wrms of power output
Dude! You did such a beautiful job on the cabinets and then stuffed a lepai amp into it. Should have put a gainclone kit in it.....maybe a little more work but stellar sound. Nice job regardless.
I can't take credit for the woodwork. That's all @123toid
What a really nice and informative channel i just found! Excellent work Joe. You have the best speaker reviews and comparison I have seen. Very down to earth, enough for us interested in quality, but close enough to what average people like me would understand, not inside the audiophile difficult to understand niche. Have you seen Doug Demuro? you could create a JoeNscore to make your leaderboard a bit more easily comparable when it gets more and more speakers. Greetings from South America!
Hey thank you! I try my best to make it entertaining and informative. I used to do a weighted rating system, but it took a long time to do. I might bring it back someday.
Just hit up the whole parts list and build plans thru your links!! Can't wait to get these built.
They look great and a nice looking response and I really like the name.
These Speakers are awesome! Toid123 better start taking orders!
For you, I'll take an order for ;)
They look like my powered B&Ws i haven't heard anything like my B&W they are pricey but they sound good.
No love for the M-Audio M3-6's or M3-8's? (I'm rollin the 6's now, but looking for more bass; They do play insanely loud n clean)
What a cool project. Would a non straight or toothed port edge make turbulence and get rid of the chuffing? Would like to see a group delay measurement if someone made one. He should sell the cabinets on Amazon or Ebay.
Great video!! How do you think these would hold up next to the hivi 3.1 diy kit?? I built a pair a couple years ago and LOVE them!! Looking for something to replace my desktop speakers and thought these would be a good fit
this is awesome! i'm geeking out!
It would be nice to see a full size tower build. Perhaps a 4 way with these speakers adding a dayton HO 15.
Andrew Jones will be proud of you!
I would hope so
Well done guys. Now on to the mark II
I think this will create a new trend. Bookshelves that can truly hit low.
I hope so. We need it!
@@Toid Made a similar 2 way build with the same woofer and a similar port last summer. So seeing this sorta thing become a trend is really cool imo!
@@__-fm5qv That is awesome! Glad to see that you thought of it as well!
Glad you put a tweeter in as I find the RS100 to sound quite unpleasant up high.
I use the same woofers in my truck. With cabin gain I have them tuned up to go from 0 to -10 DB from 80 to 18 Hertz. My guess was pretty good because they sound awesome and will play any kind of music at a good volume. The drop incredibly low and sound very realistic for such a low price.
Holy crap! I also want to use these as subs for my van. How many are you using. I was thinking 5 would do the trick. 😉
I'd like to know more on your setup. I use 2 6.5 TBs in a box in my car. They sound pretty good considering it was just a test box i made. I just like seeing how others are using TBs in their cars.
I'd like to know more about your setup! 😊
Frankly I think the Dayton Audio CX120-8 4" Coaxial Driver with 3/4" Silk Dome Tweeter would be a better choice for this project. I do like the idea of a built in amp and subwoofer.
That looks like it would be an awesome alternative. I would love to hear a version with those drivers. The only thing is we wanted to keep the box as small as possible. That driver requires a bit more space in a sealed enclosure to be able to be crossed over below 150hz, preferably 100hz. That means the overall enclosure size would have to grow. Great idea!
I have listened to literally thousands of different speakers over the past 30 years or so,
And these are a absolutely stellar! anything else in this realm seldom get lower the 45HZ for woofers.
Have you made these too?
@@aug.jam.1 I have put together similar versions with comparable hardware, but not these exact builds.
@@BrasspineappleProductions ok, I was thinking about just that, because I´d actually would like to make similar ones but instead passive speakers as I already have a decent amplifier. Thanks
@@aug.jam.1 I would recommend experimental builds to evaluate comparisons.
Are you in your new location? Would love to see an official demo in your new place. That would be encouraging. Meanwhile, thanks for the encouragement on using this model plate amp.
Great Job on those bookshelfs 😎👌🏽
Hi Joe! Id like to see u make a test video from some Genelec speakers!
I would too!
I would like these in a non powered version and a sealed sub rather than ported
Why they "only" go down to 50 hz(in flat mode). Is it the amp responce or are these speakers tuned to 50 hz. Good design by the way, I wanted to make a 3 way speaker with the TB but a lot of crossover calculations did make me skip the project. This project is more DIY friendly. Nice Speakers 😃
I think it has more to do with how the speaker itself responds as well as how it's tuned.
Nick, I have few questions about DINAS build plans I bought on 18 Dec 2021.
1) I managed to find speaker box made of plywood/MDF with 12cm or 15cm thickness from Taobao online with dimension of 12.6" x 7.87" x 9.8" (HxWxD) compare to build plans dimension of 12.5"x7.5"x10" is it okay to use it for DINAS or it has to be exact as build plans to get the expected result?
Any different to use 15cm thickness for the flat pack instead of 12cm in term of box resonance at low frequency?
Taobao online speaker box slot port design might be different but I could fabricate it myself with the hand tool.
2) There is 0.68uF capacitor connected to external tweeter in series and then parallel to the Mid range speaker in reverse polarity, what is the reason of reverse polarity connection on tweeter? Same question on Woofer speaker reverse polarity as well.
3) why not connect tweeter and capacitor in series onto (R) channel directly instead of parallel to Full range speaker on (L) channel since there are two channels available?
Thks&Rdgs,
Foon
Where can I get cabs for these? That’s the one thing I can’t do myself. Not woodworking tools, no room in the garage for them, no way to get there. It would be great if I could buy these in a kit!
Also, I agree on the use of paper in a sub, woofer or midrange, unless you’re using a dome for the midrange. I would consider making a four way system, with a midwoofer and a dome midrange for upper mid frequencies, also the with these killer tweeters.
Awesome build you guys! I purchased the build plans and the parts for it today. Curious to know what's the weight on the speakers?
Not sure exactly. Let me know how you like them once they're finished
a build video of these would be awesome.
These little things are beasts!
My dual W5-1138 subwoofer has a slotted port. I’ve been using slot ports for over 14 years in all of my designs.
Oh yeah, slotted ports aren't new. They are just a variation of the port on that Voxel subwoofer we based some of this build on.
that is an amazing design, but have you ever considered rear ported passive radiators? im doing a similar design but will be testing to entirely remove vent noise
It would just require some massive radiators since it's typical to use twice the surface area and double the xmax of the original woofer.
Nice sharing. I wonder if we can have something smaller in size for the overall gadget? Probably compromising sub-woofer with a higher frequency like 40-45Hz? smaller than the 5"1/4" inch that you use. Anyway, it's inspiring to see your video. Good job!
I would love to make a passive version of these that can be connected to a 5.2.4 surround sound.
Before I sent these off to Joe, I tried these out in my smaller living room and used the 7.1 channel RCA preout to run these by themselves as a theater speaker. I was really impressed. Keep in mind they were in my living room, which is not a huge space at all. But did a fantastic job. I would recommend them for smaller living rooms to use with a preamp like a surround receiver for home theater. of course you could go crazy and build like four or five of these and have five powered subwoofers all around the room. That would be pretty awesome.
Assuming his AVR has preamp out. I think only the higher end ones have that for all the channels.
What are the exact parts list I would need, I saw that some capacitors were mentioned, I would like to get all the parts in one go instead of being halfway into the build and finding out I need a certain part... Love the video and the entire build itself btw I cannot wait to get my hands on this project
You have to buy the plans on 123toid his site, I think
Correct
"...they're not the flattest sounding speakers in the world..." really?! +/- 5-6dB from 55hz to 20k? I've seen studio monitors with a far nastier response curve honestly! That graph looks great if it's legit! Great job!
It ain't bad...that's for sure. I tend to play stuff down a bit just because there's always a speaker out there that does something better. Thanks for noticing though.
Really cool! Awesome video and build!