The ODROID H3 Plus Runs Linux Like A PRO! All-New Powerful X86 SBC
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 9 มิ.ย. 2024
- In this video, we take a look at the new ODROID H3+ Running Linux more specifically POP OS, and yeah it handled it perfectly!
The ODROID H3 Plus Is a New X86 Single Board Computer from Hard Kernel! It can run windows or Linux and has a 3.3GHz Quad Core CPU! We test 4K Video Playback, Linux PC Gaming, and Emulation like the PPSSPP Emulator, The Dolphin Emulator for Gamecube and Wii, and even PS2 using PCSX2.
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00:00 Introduction
00:26 overview
00:50 Odroid H3+ Case and Fan
01:37 Odroid H3 Plus Specs
02:27 Odroid H3 Unlimited Performance Mode
03:07 POP OS Overview Odroid H3+
05:02 H3+ Linux Benchmark
07:05 4K Video Playback Test Linux Odroid H3 Plus
07:59 Odroid H3+ Linux Gaming
09:04 PSP Emulation Odroid H3+
09:55 Gamecube and Wii Emulation Odroid H3+
10:34 PS2 Emulation Odroid H3+
11:18 Final Thoughts
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This board has been awesome, if there’s any other OS you woul like to tested just let me know
try android x86
Nobara OS (a modified version of Fedora Linux with user-friendly fixes for gaming & streaming, includes WINE dependencies)
win98 and dos thats the board or console i want , why cant they actual build something new with backward compatibility with old dos and win98 wouldnt it be great.
@@jediknight2350 Last time I tried running Win98 on an i5, Games ran at 1000X speed !
Ubuntu 22.10 last release… would like to see the performance on this board and also what battery to use to make this board a portable device … it will be my cyber deck project candidate.
Will you include a kilowatt reading on idle and max loads?
It would be AWESOME if you shared a Google sheet with your review stats.
Date, system buildout (RAM, storage, fan, etc) kilowatt idle, kilowatt max load, various benchmark results, your subjective emulation score for each emulator, URL to YT video, etc.
Great Video! Always loved the performance of these little devices. A quick tutorial on how to make this into a NAS server or a firewall/router would be awesome.
Hello ETA.
You have great videos.
I have enjoyed a whole bunch of them.
Keep up the good work.
I love the small form factor gaming rigs that are available now.
This channel is so good and even getting better should have 1m subscribers RIGHT NOW!
We just need a SBC board like this with a full PCI-Express slot!
Was so impressed I ordered one to tinker with yesterday with the same case and a fan.
Seems like a good NAS system candidate. Small cool and quiet, good enough performance to serve files.
yea i thought so too, but only 2x sata :( i want 4x
it's on par with the 4core/4t i5 desktop processors from gen3-4-5-6, it has good enough performance to run lightweight virtual machines.
Could this run unraid?
This board looks like a good candidate for updating my home lab. 2x of these and my other host could make for a nice little cluster for messing around on !
@@sgtnik4871 maybe use the nvme slot to put a 4/5 port Sata controller
There is some on Amazon
Thumbs up for using PoP!_OS in this video 👍!
Thanks, ETA Prime 😊!
@7:50 the reason you get higher performance on Linux for video playback is that it's using an HDR10/30-bit (High Dynamic Range, 1024 levels per RGB / Deep Colour) display mode on Windows, and an SDR/24-bit (Standard Dynamic Range, 256 levels per RGB / True Colour) display mode on Linux. The 24-bit display uses separate bytes for each of the Red, Green, and Blue channels. HDR10 displays have an additional 2 Overbright bits per channel. These are either combined into a 4th byte so that a pixel uses 32 bits for storage, or they use 2 bytes per RGB - 48 bits per pixel. The latter is getting more popular because it seamlessly supports higher gamut formats with 12 (HDR10+ / Dolby Vision) and 16 bits (digital camera RAW, others) per RGB. Anyhow, the 24-bit mode uses between 1/2 and 1/4 the processing resources vs 30-bit, and the newer Intel iGPUs contain hardware-accelerated HDR10 decoding from Gen 8 forward. So long story short, Linux is cheating by using an SDR display stack, whereas Windows is doing a lot more work. TBH most people can't tell the difference, which is part of why it's taking so long to become a reality on Linux - because SDR is good enough for the vast majority of people.
TBH, if the difference of HDR10/30 is not that obvious, and comes at such a high cost of processing resources, SDR/24 sounds like the smarter option for an SBC.
My initial thought was how good the sbc runs but I recall thinking that about so many generations of procs and systems.
That little board is light years ahead of all my old rigs, but my first Athlon was the same way.
I can't imagine what people would have said if you told them about today's tech 30-40 years ago.
Can't wait to see SBCs with integrated multi GB GPUs in the future.
Have a great day.
I ordered based on your review. Planning to run Pop as well. 4 days to delivery from South Korea to US Midwest. That’s was flipping fast!
Yay I love pop!os I'm so happy you test it :)
I realize doing so might put it just beyond the SBC catagory into micro-ITX but... if only it had a PCI-E slot built in.
You can break out m.2 x4 to pcie x4 :D
Or just a Thunderbolt 3 or 4 port...
@@tiborklein5349 Thunderbolt ties up pcie lanes that could otherwise be used for other things. Sadly Thunderbolt is just a super expensive and esoteric standards.
@@tschuuuls486 USB 4?
@@nitrobear woud work, if the cpu would support it natively, if it doesn't like the one in the odroid, you need pcie lanes for a usb4 controller.
What a great little unit. Thanks ETA
This design appears to be very mature and should be very popular for projects.
We need a tour of your tech collection, it’d be epic!
Thank you for the video! I've been waiting for a newer Odroid SBC. Are the H3 and H3+ made in Korea or China out of curiosity? Which Noctua fan did you get?
Lastly, wondering how the H3+ performs as a Minecraft server as well as pfSense router.
Fantastic channel :)
That 4k playback is surprisingly good.
This would make such a sick server cuz of the 2.5 gig networking and storage options.
Way better performance then on windows and the price of 165 is not to bad either. I think this would be a super fun board for a small retro emulation setup. As always thanks for your videos. Any promo codes for a discount.
That 165 euro is without memory, case or power supply. Considering you can buy an AM4 mainboard + 3200G for almost the same money I don't think it isn't a good deal.
Pop!_OS has built-in power profiles selectable from the battery settings in the top panel. High Performance sets the CPU governor to performance.
Thx, been looking forward to this. One question though: how many watts does it pull for 4k60 playback on youtube?
Hey, great video as always!
Where did you find the right stand off for the fan?
Would like to see Manjaro Linux running on here with the light weight XFCE x11 desktop environment as it would have less system overhead on the operating system side of things and would leave better performance for other things.
Top notch presentation.
I’d love to know how this SBC would manage transcoding in Plex
@ETA PRIME which Noctua is that and how have you mounted and secured it ? cheers for the video.
Does the case provide enough clearance at the top for the fan? Because the active cooling seems like a very good idea, but the case looks too short. Or maybe the fan could replace the grille. Curious what you think.
I've purchased 2 Odroid H3+ boards from you and 1 $16 blue case.
Here are some comments...
1. The H3+ works beautifully with Windows 11 and Linux Mint Cinnamon.
2. With 16gB of Ram and a Western Digital SN570 1tb drive they are exceptionally fast.
Here are a couple of ideas I would wish for in the next iteration.
1. All USB are USB-3. The 2 that are now USB-2 could be USB-C 3.2
2. Two Ethernet ports are not needed for most users
3. WiFi 6 AX would be GREAT! and leave another available USB port.
The Blue Circuit Board case is practical, cute and retro. I like it.
I added a 60mm Noctua AF-N6 quiet fan instead of the grate.
There is no way to pass the SATA power and data cables to an SSD below the board.
I need a cutout where the ports are to allow the cables to move to the 'lower deck'.
Thank you for building an amazing SBC at a great price!
I wish I had known about AmeriDroid before I bought the two boards.
Best thing is everything is compatible with the H2/H2+, that gives me the opportunity to buy back the Type 1 case.
Great review, I am seriously curious and may buy one. Side note, do you have/use an IODD for your iso/distro swapping?
@@FerdinandSmittenaar Works for some folks. I have no qualms with that. I just like the idea that in addition to bootable ISO's and vm's I can carry persisted data that is encrypted so that if I somehow lose possession of the drive, the data is safe.
Could you try OpenSuse Tumbleweed - their rolling release - with emulators? Also Qubes OS - does VT-D work? According to Intel's website, VT-D is supported on this CPU, but I was wondering if the motherboard supports it as well.
Have seen some other videos on POP OS. It's seems like a great version of Linux.
They are in the process of making the Adam + from Coleco Vision using the Latte Panda can't wait for it to show up after 30 years out of the business as well as playing all the old Colico Vision games !
@ETA Prime could you test some of these single board computers with virtual pinball performance?
Pretty impressive for the price. I like it so much I think I'll get one.
Does it really need the 19v/7amp adapter for adding two 3.5 inch hard drives?. I plan to get this and replace my current NAS.
I would be happy if they made an AM5 version with 64gb DDR5 ram and 2 m.2 (would be nice with both gen 5).. fingers crossed for innovation
POSROG OS
ill be waiting for your review sir
Thanks again
At $165, that looks like it would make a serious pfSense system, especially with those dual 2.5G ports.
That's what I was thinking as well. I'm looking to build a travel pfSense router with at least 2.5GbE NICs. I haven't looked at the specs sheet yet but I'm curious about both driver support and routing performance, firewall performance, and OpenVPN and Wireguard performance.
$297 with everything including case
Liking this thing so far 👍
BIOS settings 👍
Power limit 4 = 0
Awesome tip, ETA !
This SIngle Unit is definitely way better than the Raspberry Pi…
If only the support was as great as the pie... But yeah, this blows a pie out of the water. Also you can find these all day long on Amazon, at NON scalped prices. 😌
The PC is definitely way better than this single unit...
Yea, main reason for it being better is coz of the x86 architecture, And the specs are really good.
@@testosteroneinc.3800 What kind of support do you mean? Being x86 it already runs everything without needing a special distro. With ARM they all seem to need special Linux versions to activate everything.
And the comparison is strangely valid given the inflated prices of RPis right now. Though if you’re trying to save every watt and don’t need as much performance there are some good alternatives in the ARM SBC space. I recently got a Libre Computer Le Potato and am pretty happy with it, and the Renegade looks even better. Not really comparable performance wise to this board of course but decent enough for my purposes (not gaming in this case)
This tiny computer is more powerful than all the computers I've ever had together.
Is there any ryzen APU single board that can play eSports titles like valorant, dota2, rocket league @1080p? Currently skimming through your videos for this. Anyway thanks always for the great content!
nice size and price but wished for more powerful, at least the APU found in the Steam Deck. This could be a nice board for 24/7 like NAS, ipcamera recorder, but doubles as a PC and gaming
Nice. So what would it take to run this with Pi-Hole router, OpenVPN, NAS & Plex? Run the OS on an nvme and a dual drive data nas (raid 1?)
One thing I wish you mentioned (or I missed) is the price. I see it at about $165 on the official site. I guess this is like an inbetween product between smaller SBCs like Raspberry Pis and bigger boards like Intel NUC.
Hey ETA I recommend you try out 0 A.D and Xonotic they're great games!!!!!
Hey ETA, would you be so kind as to reply what capture device you use? I have a 4k IN, 2k OUT card and don’t know if it’s good enough for youtube/viewing on a huge TV afterward. (It’s just a $20 Amazon joint.) love to know what I should get. Thanks!!
It looks great for dyi laptop project
Would love to see Model 3 emulation running on this board!
Got it, I’ll add it in the next
@@ETAPRIME AWESOME! Thank you very much for even considering!
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Hey ETA, why didn't you try other systems to emulate?
Like at least Xbox. It would be good to know roughly where it stands.
I don't think it would run 360, PS3, WiiU and Switch well, but it would be good to know how close/far it is performance wise. And to know if 3DS emulation has issues.
I really wish this board had Intel NICs. Just wondering if they are planning to release a 4 port m.2 NIC like they did for the H2, or if the one from the H2 works on this board as well?
They have a 2.5g 4 port adapter for it. Might be the same one as the H2. They also have case for it.
no fair, this crushes my Odroid N2+ :)
Because of your relentless (over) focus on gaming, you've overlooked one of this boards most important features - the cheap ($40ish iirc) 4 x 2.5gbe LAN card. So you can have a 6 port 2.5gbe router, running say pfSense, for not much.
Also, they use a Realtek NIC for which default Linux/BSD drivers are often problematic. Did you try them out?
I tried opnsense but by default, I couldn't make it recognize the Realtek NICs.
I might try with pve
the realtek nic isn’t problematic for linux maybe bsd. The cost would be so high with intel nic that no one would buy the board.
Are the two, 2.5GB Ethernet ports backwards compatible? Secondly, could this board or even the H2 be used as a small Plex server? Thanks!
I was considering looking into replacing my Synology NAS with something more open like the OdroidHC4, or this. I wonder if it could run a NAS OS off the MMC, and use the nvme drive as a cache.
dnt use nvme cache. use truenas and build up on ram instead of caching ssd
Have you tried unraid?
I have an HC4, and it's honestly not fast enough for videos. Even on a 400gbs connection. Regular files are ok. But I need more speed.
You played a 4k TH-cam video, but how will this do as a HTPC? Will it decode/play 4k local video files? If you have made a backup copy of your 4k movies, will this play without issues? I dont see any specs on this CPU for its transcoding support.
external gpu performance, would be interesting to see
Ya, i would like to see how it will with different games/emulators with Manjaro
Hi, pleased share the Brand and Model of the Fan you used, and how you fixed it on the Board, thank you
Looks dope
Great review! Is this board able to run bettle saturn core at full speed? Thanks!
Yes
I like your intros
when you give the SBC specs, can you add what the power supply is? I have a 12v power limit, so its kinda important. EG I could have swarn there were at least a couple of Minisform SBC that used 12v, however I can't find any on there site now (I've been keeping an eye on them since they started), but maybe this is due to the power input being 12v-24v so it makes more sense for them to be selling units with 19v Laptop power bricks ..
I am still building mine, but i found a post from hardkernal saying 12v is fine to power board, but you can’t use the onboard sata power ports when you do that.
Do you know of any ready made rack mounts for these? Preferably holding multiple at a time
Is there a way to add a internal USB header to the H3+ somehow? Short of running a cable back into a case from one of the external ports?
I bought this board because of your video. I use it for work. Save some electricity lol.
But will it run Blender under Linux? If so what version, you showed the Vulcan backend, but how compatible is it with OpenGL?
Would love to see Manjaro or even MINT running on this board.
Hello and thank you again for the great review. I have been a big fan of your reviews.
I have a question.
I went to the Newegg site today and got put in the cart a Pentium G6545 that includes a heatsink and fan and an MSI
H510M-A Pro motherboard for a total of $154.17 before taxes. Adding a 2x8 Ripjaws DDR4-3200 makes the total to $207.93. So the question is where is the value here? I can get me a better cheaper system with way more expansions for less money. Am I missing something here?
Thanks again for the great reviews
size, power consumption, needing a larger more expensive power supply.
Do something with the Zimaboard it’s like the razberry pie it’s really cool
Got a question for you ETA, how do you get a clean version of Android (not stuck in developer mode and not rooted) on the khadas edge 2
NOBARO, I am curious about how Nobaro (Fedora with Steam OS add ons) performs. I tried, but with my old NVIDIA 750 Ti does not boot.
What would be cool is if you could connect an egpu to this via an nvme pcie riser cable.
Today (25 Oct 22), they are available for a price of $175. This includes the power supply.
What do you think about using this as a homelab server?
Comparable to Intel's NUCATKPE0001 minus a few missing USB 3.1 ports and cost less (USD)?
Please test an external gpu! It can be done through the m.2 port
Can you do a video with Pfsense or Opnsense or Sophos XG on it and see ?
Looks cool. Can I use this as a server for plex
how much do you need to spend to get something decent ? (sorry if you gave the information before)
You should try Endeavor instead of Manjaro as it doesn’t use incompatible base repositories to the AUR and shouldn’t break as easily.
Any idea on the tdp from the wall using it for video playback when set to 10w on bios?
What is the fan size that can be fitted on the heatsink?
Nice
What about Blender 3.1 Rendering of a 3D animation with Cycles???
Have you ever considered Garuda? It’s all set up for gaming out of the box and has some really nice features like BTRFS snapshots and ZRAM out of the box.
btrfs it's not optimized for games expecially if you have the snapshot thing too
@@sixdroid The impact of a filesystem on the performance of games is likely negligible. By that logic encryption would also be bad, but I've never seen a performance impact from that either. The only filesystem that would likely have an impact is ZFS, because of the increased resource use.
Lovely machine
I’m not a gamer anymore, but this might be a good SBC for a Proxmox host.
Would like to see how CoinOps Legends 4 MAX runs on this board. If that's solid... I'M A BUYER!
11:26 Yes
This board: It's not even my last transformation haha.
Love PopOs!
Does Wayland offer any improvements using this board? I read that POP is a year out regarding Wayland over X11 so I did try to educate myself regarding that. I'd like to see this on another distro that has Wayland and use what was found here as a comparison.
xorg runs better with low ends pc and even with newer
@@sixdroid Wayland is supposed to be inherently much faster because it's asynchronous and doesn't have anything in between the compositor and the clients. I don't see how lower performance would benefit either of the options we are discussing, X11 or Wayland. Please expound on that thought or theory, or sauce it here and I'll check it out.
@@ArtDeth yeah it's supposed but xorg runs smoother. Wayland has even a mouse micro lag with latest Ubuntu versions. smooth with xorg. even with newer pc
I'd like to see manjaro on it.
I wonder how LibreELEC would run on it. Looking for something to replace my outdated Odroid C2 that's running CoreELEC.
LibreELEC 11 Alpha 3 works good on Intel's NUC11ATKPE so it should run fine on this. You'll need to install the latest release of LibreELEC that has the latest Kernel and Intel drivers to boot properly after install.
at the prices this thing sells for, i wonder if one would be better off building a small pc with an amd apu from the ryzen series.
I would love to see android running on this board, or something like Prime Os.
Is android x86 still a thing?
Is the shipping always high from hard kernel? I'm getting like $30 to the US for just this board.
Use Ameridroid