Don't Pay For Sundrop !!! When you can do it yourself ! Let me show you on how With Tainted Grail !
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Great job, Rob! Thank you for encouraging us to go out and do it ourselves and save lots of money! ; )
I do try
Great job Rob! Saving some folks some money and getting them acclimated to painting is a one-two punch combo.
You're looking and sounding better, brother. Keep healing!
Thank you sir!
Great vid, tips on painting are always much appreciated. Thank you Rob
Thank you!!
Thank you so much for this! It works like a charm when I don’t have time to fully paint stuff!
Your welcome
I ordered Tainted Grail totday and I am happy I found this video to do the painting myself. I will need some protective stuff first to do paintings in my house and to not damage my furniture, but then I am going to start the whole thing. Thank you for encouraging me and explaining how easy it goes. I am not afraid to do it anymore :-)
Glad I could help!
Great lesson and encouragement, Rob. Thanks.
You are welcome
Amazing result! Looks awesome! I’ve always been reluctant on painting my minis myself, as I’m kind of a perfectionist and worry about not getting it right, so I considered it better to pay for sundrop. However, after watching this and being amazed at the results and realizing how easy it is, I’m seriously considering painting all the minis I have. Thank you so much for the video!
Thank you so much!!!!
For what it's worth I'm legally blind, completely colour blind and still can manage to paint my minis myself. No real reason to get sundrop. Ever.
Thanks so much for this video. I have been thinking of doing this for Tainted grail but was not sure how to mimic the look. Appreciate you Brother.
Glad it was helpful!
Looks amazing Rob! Definitely learned something new today!
Thank you I will be covering more on this soon
Thanks Rob. I have thought about getting sun drop but your right it isn’t so hard to do yourself.
thank you sir
Honestly you cheer me up to try it on some of my minis ! But they are expensive ! I dont want to mess them up but your video will surely help me a lot ! So thank you very much, and +1 subscriber !
Glad to have you aboard I hope I can live up to it
Thank you for this tutorial rob, has helped me loads.
thank you
Thank you Rob for another great video
you are welcome!!
I need to take time to go back to past painting tutorials series Rob has done as id wanted to learn the best ways to do minis painting even though i dont really collect too many games with figures, but i do want to buy individual bare figures for homebrew character figures for adapting to games i have or games i am building from files on bgg and working on some of my own original games.
Thanks Rob.
Those look really cool, like real stone carved statues.
Please do
Nice video. I've had good success using Citadel Wraithbone primer. Gives you a off white / tan base to start with. Then I use Army Painter strong tone or dark tone depending on what color I want. One coat is typically enough
Thanks
Thank you for this video, ive purchased several kickstarters but refused to pay so much more just for sundrop, its ridiculous. Ive always wondered if there was a way to duplicate that look but hadnt found a tutorial video until you posted this. Appreciate it.
Thank you my friend
Thanks for this video. I just saved a lot of money! I will make a Sundrop effect myself when I receive Witcher Old World.
Always here to help my friend!
Thanks Rob! I will give it a try.
your welcome
It was just thinking about pledging for ISS Vanguard and this video comes in handy! Awesome stuff!
Do you spray varnish over them or in this case does it matter because you can paint more if they rub off?
I Matt coat them and that was said a while back on the channel
You're a freeken legend Rob. Great presentation, love your positive attitude, top stuff mate ;-)
Thank you!
I'm definitely going to be doing this with my copy of Tainted Grail!
cool
I used your technique for my Tainted Grail and it looks great. After trying a few different shades I prefer dark tone and strong tone on top of it.
Great job! Wonderful !!! so glad to hear it!
You can also use citadel contrast paints. They have more pigment than the shades wash. But love the job you did using the nuln oil and earthshade wash. They are both very easy to do and way cheaper than buying a sundrop. Awesome video.
Thanks for the info!
Thx so much - some of these new games have 100 or more minis and was looking for a quick and easy way to spruce up the gray! Can’t wait to try this method with monsters and maybe some different colored contrast paints for heroes
Oh, had found some other videos but they were with airbrush so yours with just regular old brushes and washes is awesome!
Thanks!
Thanks for this video, will save me money in the future to be able to get more games.
Nice
Great Video real nice to see just useing primer and washes.
Glad it was helpful!
Rob thank you! You made my day ;) Im gonna check this way, and sooner or later comment again ;) Greetings from Poland !
I am a full blood pole myself !!!
Will definitely be doing this for mine. I was considering picking up some contrast paints to tackle zombicide black plague with in future too
Nice
This is very helpful thank you!
You are most welcome!!
Excellent tutorial Rob. I am always encouraging people to have a go at painting and this is a great introduction. I usually paint in more detail but have recently used a sundrop type effect with Ruination, saving the detail for the mercenaries. Easy to do and fairly foolproof, so great for beginners. Especially as the results will be such an improvement over plain grey?
I agree
Thanks this is great stuff!
You're very welcome!
Thanks. I will definitely be doing this for Foundations of Rome
Very cool
I was planning on trying this with foundations of Rome as well. Will definitely come back to this video when it comes in
Thanks!! Great tutorial! :)
Thank you my brother
Thanks, great tutorial!
Thank you
Never painted a mini in my life, i'm a big time beginner and i just finished my Zombicide 2nd Edition set with this (nuln oil + Agrax), i added some ''Berserker bloodshade'' from citadel for blood effect and some places and i love it!
Very cool
Rob: you can do it with anything!
Dragon's Tomb: With anything?! Cards and chits, and boards too! 🤩
Sure
I'm currently using gray primer, skeletal bone dry brushing over the mini and then strong tone over that, but the way you did it is even simpler. Gotta try this out once I get my hands on a white primer. Cheers. :)
Easier is always better
Only other piece of advice would be to spray them with a varnish when done. Washes are super thin and can be damaged pretty easy. If you choose to paint them later you can paint on top of the varnish just fine
I Matt coat everything I just forgot to put in the video
Thanks for this! I just got my Etherfields box and am looking for an easy way to make my minis look awesome.
You are welcome
Rather than plain ol' gray or sundrop style shade, I've been thinking about just a two-tone paint job for my miniatures to speed through them. Pick a darker color for my opaque base coat and then dry brush downward to approximate zenithal highlights with an opaque lighter color.
Nice
I found Army Painter Skeleton Bone primer followed by Games Workshop Nuln Oil to be VERY close to the stock Tainted Grail Sundrop. I need to try the Army Painter shades or a more khaki primer to see if I can get it more exact. Thanks for the video.
Your welcome my friend
thanks for this rob, i got foundations of rome and want to try this on that. I have never primed anything will need to sort that out as well.
its not hard trust me
It’s a really cool technique. I never knew it had a name.
Either did i
Great video. Any suggestion what shades/ contrasts/ base to best recreteate the different coloured aliens in nemesis? Keep up the good work 👏
i sure can do that
@@seahawk8601 big thank you :)
that's a very cool effect for such a little time needed! would it give good rusults also with transparent primers? thinking about using it while preserving original faction-specific miniatures colour (eg for scythe or rising sun)
i think so!
I thought that a lot of the Sundrop idea was about starting with Zenithal highlight spray.
this was my take on it.........
Love how these turned out! I've seen some people prime in black and then spray white overtop, I was wondering why you didn't do that here? Also wondering how this would look with different shades of color, like a dark purple etc
I just do it my way
@@seahawk8601 Your way looks great too, just wondering what the method behind the madness was :)
Super efekt!
Thanks
A few of questions (and sorry if this has already been asked). What is you preferred primer? Do you varnish them after you paint them? Have you tried this with contrast/SpeedPaint or do they cover to much to look sundropped?
they cover too much
Thanks Rob. Seems fun and easy. How much time do you give the first layer fo shade to dry before applying the second?
About 20 mins to make sure it’s good and dry
Great video. I thought you had to use spray paint from a certain distance away to get the sundrop effect to create that light hitting it look...does this achieve the same thing with painting it directly on it?
Sure does
what i really would like to try is a base coat wash and drybrush but i am not satisfied with my skills 🙈
No one ever is
I'll be be doing this with Zombicide Night of the Living Dead.
Cool idea
Hey Rob thanks for the great video, so easy! Question, what’s a shade color for more of a grey stone look instead of the brown? Looks like just the base coat is somewhat grey. Thanks!
I would use an army painter soft dark tone
Thanks 🙏🏻
I stopped painting because it became so overwhelming. I may give this a try with something like Zombicide Black plague.
nice call
Try a goblin green wash on the zombies. You can use a white, grey, brown, or even green primer.
Drop it like its hot...
Have you ever made your own Shade Rob? I have done so in the past and have had some success. For that matter, have you ever done the "dip method" of using polyurethane stain? I did that a lot back in the day for my D&D minis and it worked well for me.
I want to, but haven't yet. But Goobertown Hobbies did a really good video about washes - th-cam.com/video/VU0rc0EOOys/w-d-xo.html -
I've been thinking about using his steps to make some.
What recipe would you recommend?
@@zeblic my attempts have always been 1 part craft paint and like 10 parts water and throw in a little drop of dish soap so it flows well but it is hardly a science. Some times it works great...others, not so much.
I did a video on it a while back where I made my own stuff
Found Rob's video - th-cam.com/video/qrzO6knAMDQ/w-d-xo.html
Good tutorial, but I wish you had waited for the miniatures to dry up before you took the last family shot 😊
oh well i was in a hurry and very sick at the time....i will be doing more and taping it
hi sorry, but from the spoken word I can't understand the names of the paints you used (as a non-native speaker I can't often understand speech) and above all with which brush should I do it?I am now approaching the painting of miniatures and I wanted to start with the sundrop, if I apply the sun drop then I will be able to color them later or not? and sun drop can also be done on colored plastic miniature like green or yellow?
Just look for washes and make sure you undercoat in white
For a darker game like Nemesis does a black primer still work well with this wash effect or does it need to be primed white?
white
Hi Rob great video. I am 100% new to all of this. I have backed a few kickstarters that are offering the sundrop but I think I want to try this technique. As I am starting at zero what will I need to buy to get started? Is there a starter kit that might work or do I have to buy everything separate? Any help you can give me will be much appreciated.
its all in the video what you need and you have to buy it separately
Hey Rob
Do you ever need a clear coat protection over these or are the coats you’ve put in this video durable enough?
I clear coat everything
So i've heard that you can use matt varnish spray as a kind of "transparent" primer, before washing. Is that true? i'm asking mainly for minis that require me to keep their original colors (e.g. ti4)
Yes that would work
Will this technique work on minis that doesn't have a lot of crevices (I.E. Marvel United miniatures)? I'm just trying to paint all of them in lesser time. Great video!
I think so
Hi, what I dont understand is the difference between the first and second color (after the Primer). Arent both washes?
Black wash brown wash
Hello,
is it possible to give a bluish, greenish, reddish tint with this technique, if so, how to proceed? I would like to try with my miniatures of massive darkness 2
Thanks in advance for your reply
just use colored washes
do you ever make your own wash out of acrylic paint, dish soap, and rubbing alcohol? then do a dry brush after the wash dries?
yes i do
I don't use the strong tone dip that often, but I think in this case, it would work pretty good. If you want to send me a copy of the game, I'll be happy to try it out and get back to ya :).
No I’m good
@@seahawk8601 it was worth a try haha.
No
LOL I got scammed with Tainted Grail and it was awaken realms who advised me to go and get scammed.
Basically the time Tainted Grail was on Kickstarter I had a surgery and because of that I couldn’t work for few months so couldn’t afford to spend $$ on games at that time so I contacted Awaken Realms and they told me “Don’t worry you can get a pledge later” so I took their word for it LOL.
Few months later and I’m back on my feet I contacted them again and this time they basically told me “no pledge for you because you didn’t pay for it early, but don’t worry you can find a backer and they can add extra copy for you in their pledge” Because some reason about knowing the final count of how many copies to make and that make zero sense as it was still early and they were nowhere near production and it also make no sense how allowing someone to join mess up their count but backers adding new copies don’t?
So I looked for a backer to add me to their pledge and I found one and not only he charged me for the game but he also charged me $100 extra LOL I still paid it.
Now I have no clue where that guy is and he keep giving me stupid excuses. Basically I took awaken realms advice and I got scammed.
On the other hand Succubus Publishing allowed me to join very late without that crap about counts and this is why I will never support Awaken Realms when they make a system like that encourage scammers.
Kickstarters ……always someone getting banged up
Rob, totally new in painting here. Just began now to understand what is a prime/sundrop/etc before trying for the first time. What if someday I decide to paint them with color, how do I remove the sundrop? Is it possible? Or paiting over it with color is possible?
You don’t it’s just a wash and you can prime over them
@@seahawk8601 oh ok I see! Just got the pledge for Robinson Crusoe, probably gonna try that on it when it arrives... thanks a lot!
Do you think a varnish to finish them off would be a good idea?
I did varnish them
Rob, do you think a very light final drybrush of a white or grey to give a highlight would work ?
I did it the way I wanted …you do you
@@seahawk8601 No criticism was intended Rob.
None taken…..but it is true I plant the seed and people can take it anywhere they want
are they not sticky after dried? do you need to spray or paint something else on top so they are not sticky?
Matt coat to protect …….but no not sticky at all
Nor sure if you're still monitoring this but I just tried this technique with army painter strong tone and while it looks nice (except in placeS where I let the tone pool up too much), the minis are a bit sticky ( I may not have shaken the tone enough). Anything I can do about it?
Spray Matt finish over it it will take the stickiness away …could be your primer
@@seahawk8601 thanks, I'll give it a try.
I make my own black and brown washes using a 50/50 mix of distilled water and mat medium with a touch of flow improver as well
And add about 50 drops of black ink
And for the dark brown wash about 40 drops of sepia ink and 10 drops of black ink
I keep them iin 3.5oz dropper bottles or 100ml over here in the uk lol
They work well
I do like the look of the sundrop you did in then I hadn't heard of sundrop but I saw people on youtube talking about it on a kickstarter review channel
Very cool
But... but... I grew up drinking Sundrop!
Then keep keep on my brother
I’m glad my cornball jokes aren’t annoying, lol.
@@nickhayes1626 exactly why I started watching the video to begin with! I'm like Sundrop? What?
Rob, I was just about to pledge for sundrop in the Robinson Crusoe Gamefound campaign when I came across this video. I've never painted a mini in my life but I'm now convinced to give it a go. Can you list the washes etc you used? I'm a pure beginner and know nothing about them. Keep up the great work.
Nulin oil. Agrax earthshade. Those two will do it they are from citadel (games workshop)
Hi, I am very new to this: having watched a few videos, I have noticed that some people use two primers, first black, than white/gray/ivory and only then they use a wash. You have only used one, white primer: my question is why would anyone use two primers rather than just one primer + a wash (or two)? Why would I prime a miniature black if I am going to spray white primer all over it anyway?
Another question: did you have to use a matte varnish to get rid of the glossiness? Cheers
Two primers are used for shadows using black is for keeping the base paint dark not bright and I used a flat paint so no glossy finish
@@seahawk8601 I am a total noob, so I am not sure I follow. Let me get this straight: you are saying people use the black primer to get the "shadows" effect, but you have accomplished this just with a white primer and then a dark wash... So why bother with 2 primers? Thanks
Stay tuned I’m going to make a video and put it up weds just to help you out with this
@@seahawk8601 Awesome! Thank you so much!!!
Search for zenithal priming for more info
Rob do you need to clear coat after this process?
I clear coat everything I do
Do the paint come pre diluted, or do we have to dilute ourselves?
Dilute
Will nuln oil gloss achieve the same result as just regular nuln oil?
Yes but shiny
How easy you do it haha :D
anyone can!
Hoping this will help make up for all the money you’ve made me spend on games 😜
I do feel guilty…and try to throw a bone
do you need to varnish them?
No but sealing them helps
Would this work using gesso as primer?
I wouldn’t try it
What colours did you use on guard miniature ?
Agrax earthshade
@@seahawk8601 It's bit more light brown than Beor, so what sits on Beor ?
Made the mistake of getting sundrop for Lords of Hellas.
no worries!!! at least you know better
what is up with that thing to "pay for sundrop" ?
you can order sundrop for some games
@@seahawk8601 what Do mean "order sundrop"?