Since the Champion Edition was just a limited run, I've included some links in the description of this video to the 5in1 and the 0702 dual ball bearing motors since these were what set it apart from the standard version. Happy flying! edit: Betafpv is now updating their standard air65 XD. I believe the only difference now is the motors.
I ordered one of these at 8pm the next morning I went to check out more info on the website and it was sold out so I got one of the last ones. I can confirm this is much better for freestyle than the freestyle version. The power is a pretty big difference.
@@MrHeller55 lucky man! I hope you enjoy the champion edition and to anyone who is reading this, I've also included links to the motors and aio since that's mainly the difference between it and the standard Air65. and yeah XD I've even replied to werdna here in the comments section saying that maybe this should've been advertised as a freestyle drone since longevity + smoothness + a little weight is smth freestylers may like.
Little tip for future reference, the motor output limit will also impact the PID tune. Which is great if you are using a higher voltage battery (6s battery on 4s motors for example). If you just want to scale down your raw speed, I would recommend to use throttle limit, which can be found in the Rateprofile Settings tab. Set Throttle Limit to SCALE and set the percentage to whatever you want. It will maintain full stick resolution, and scale 0-100% stick input to 0-XX% stick input.
@@sanderpuhFPV Yknow what, I honestly don't remember when I started changing motor output limit to lower kv XD. thank you for the input man! Ill defenitely clear it up in the future videos and will start using throttle limit scale on all my builds instead of motor output limit!
man, why is it so difficult even in liftoff the throttle control? as you drop the throttle it touches the ground immediately, its very hard to complete minus two map
Drone are just like that really XD. Throttle is really sensitive and those automatic drones generally modulate throttle through software to maintain an altitude. It's especially hard for whoops hovering above the ground Irl cause, as I've said in a diff video, "ground effect is a b*tch" XD. that's why you see me flying underneath my bed sometimes in my reviews to show that with enough practice it is possible
nice vid, man! just wanna ask, where did you buy all of your stuffs for this hobby? I'm also from the Philippines and currently looking for a trusted store to start with this hobby.
@@vanxgamer9843 Hey hey! most of the things I buy for myself is from shopee (there's a couple of trusted stores we use like qinout but there's some local stores like drone hub) or in some cases, second hand stuff from the fpv gcs we have.
@@Repter75 here's my rates XD you can also check out my YT shorts to see more flying XD # rateprofile 1 set rateprofile_name = RiceBowl set rates_type = ACTUAL set quickrates_rc_expo = OFF set roll_rc_rate = 54 set pitch_rc_rate = 34 set yaw_rc_rate = 59 set roll_expo = 6 set pitch_expo = 3 set yaw_expo = 5 set roll_srate = 85 set pitch_srate = 83 set yaw_srate = 150 set roll_rate_limit = 1998 set pitch_rate_limit = 1998 set yaw_rate_limit = 1998 set roll_level_expo = 0 set pitch_level_expo = 0
I saw the hq ultralight on your desk did you fly it with that props and if yes how is it on them ? I am curious it comes tomorrow and i have a bunch of the hq!
I genuinely forgot to add that segment into my video HAHAHHAHA but yes! I like them alot AND interestingly, there is a "HQ 31mm" PID profile. I think they're slightly better than the gemfans
@@FusionKiwi-s9k I'd say the Champ is slightly better but thats really dependent on skill level. If you're comfortable with the high KV, the champ is great, but the standard versions are fine too
Yup! the original on it is dipole but you can either shorten the antenna and/or remove the bell. That reduces your range a bit - but if you're just flying inside, it doesn't really matter....plus it's basically indestructible
I don't know of any 0702 motor with bearings that weighs less than 1.5g. Whereas the traditional bushing design is a lot lighter - NBD and Betafpv's bushing 0702 both weigh ~1.3g. That's 0.8g of weight saving for one whoop, which is significant. It's an endless debate whether the benefits of a motor with dual bearings justify the added weight. Sure, it flies smoother, more efficiently, and lasts for more packs, but at so many races I attend these days, everybody builds a brand new quad with brand new FC, motors, frame just for brackets, which are usually 3-lap full send races that don't require tremendous efficiency anyway, also since everyone is charging to 4.35V.
thank you for the input man! it's always good to get the perspective of actual professional pilots like you! perhaps the dual ball bearing setup is more suited for pilots who aren't necessarily going to compete but maybe just training on a frequent basis where longevity is a nice bonus. But I do agree that it makes more sense to have a new fresh setup. in all honesty, I didn't get to mention this in the video but I genuinely think that dual ball bearing motors is more of a freestyle advantage. Added longevity/durability + weight isn't as detrimental compared to a racing setup. ps. I remembered you being referred to as "Yup" instead of "Yap" when I made the script of this video XD
@@tdogfpv hey man! we have another amazing pilot here XD but yeah, I believe those are the lightest 0702 brass bushing motors in the market and it's insane they got it to 1.29g per motor
Since the Champion Edition was just a limited run, I've included some links in the description of this video to the 5in1 and the 0702 dual ball bearing motors since these were what set it apart from the standard version. Happy flying!
edit: Betafpv is now updating their standard air65 XD. I believe the only difference now is the motors.
Haha I`m very proud to be in a video of rice_bowl!😃Thats an honor!🙏Very good video as always!
I wanted to! you're one of the professional racers I look upto XD. Thank you man! keep on inspiring!
@@im_ricebowl 💓🤜🤛💪 That's the biggest compliment you can get as a whoop racer. I'm going to train right now with one of the youngsters in my town!😃🚁🚀
I can safely say I learn alot from your videos man XD it's just my way to say thanks too XD. Lucky them! hope you have a fun time man!!
@@im_ricebowl It was a cool surprise 😃
Thanks for the shout out bro! 🖖
And thank you for inspiring us man! keep flying hard! I hope to fly like you someday
Finally man, been waiting for your vids for a LONG time man, love the work!
Dude you are always one of the first to comment on my vids XD thank you for always supporting me my guy!
@@im_ricebowl Enjoy doing so! You are welcome.
Another very insightful video dude keep up the great work on the video and the flying as well👍😎👍
and thank you for the support fam! it's fun making these kinds of videos XD and I genuinely want to go race now XD
Nice review and really good editing
Thanks man! gotta up my editing game these days XD
Another awesome review mate!
and thank you for watching fam!
Great review man!!
thanks man! I appreciate it! and thank you also for watching!
can't wait for your Kayoumini review
Loving it so far! I actually want to make a video on it but not yet sure when it'll be out XD
Great review. Thank you. Subscribed 🎉
thanks for watching fam!
I ordered one of these at 8pm the next morning I went to check out more info on the website and it was sold out so I got one of the last ones. I can confirm this is much better for freestyle than the freestyle version. The power is a pretty big difference.
@@MrHeller55 lucky man! I hope you enjoy the champion edition and to anyone who is reading this, I've also included links to the motors and aio since that's mainly the difference between it and the standard Air65.
and yeah XD I've even replied to werdna here in the comments section saying that maybe this should've been advertised as a freestyle drone since longevity + smoothness + a little weight is smth freestylers may like.
good story telling dude!
Thanks my guy!! most of that was last minute 3am ideas XD
@ the best kind of idea
Little tip for future reference, the motor output limit will also impact the PID tune. Which is great if you are using a higher voltage battery (6s battery on 4s motors for example).
If you just want to scale down your raw speed, I would recommend to use throttle limit, which can be found in the Rateprofile Settings tab. Set Throttle Limit to SCALE and set the percentage to whatever you want. It will maintain full stick resolution, and scale 0-100% stick input to 0-XX% stick input.
@@sanderpuhFPV Yknow what, I honestly don't remember when I started changing motor output limit to lower kv XD.
thank you for the input man! Ill defenitely clear it up in the future videos and will start using throttle limit scale on all my builds instead of motor output limit!
man, why is it so difficult even in liftoff the throttle control? as you drop the throttle it touches the ground immediately, its very hard to complete minus two map
Drone are just like that really XD. Throttle is really sensitive and those automatic drones generally modulate throttle through software to maintain an altitude. It's especially hard for whoops hovering above the ground Irl cause, as I've said in a diff video, "ground effect is a b*tch" XD. that's why you see me flying underneath my bed sometimes in my reviews to show that with enough practice it is possible
Nice Moonswatch!
@@Kingsbeehq Thank you! it was my dad's gift on my 21st bday XD
nice vid, man! just wanna ask, where did you buy all of your stuffs for this hobby? I'm also from the Philippines and currently looking for a trusted store to start with this hobby.
@@vanxgamer9843 Hey hey! most of the things I buy for myself is from shopee (there's a couple of trusted stores we use like qinout but there's some local stores like drone hub) or in some cases, second hand stuff from the fpv gcs we have.
Wow, what are your rates like?
@@Repter75 here's my rates XD you can also check out my YT shorts to see more flying XD
# rateprofile 1
set rateprofile_name = RiceBowl
set rates_type = ACTUAL
set quickrates_rc_expo = OFF
set roll_rc_rate = 54
set pitch_rc_rate = 34
set yaw_rc_rate = 59
set roll_expo = 6
set pitch_expo = 3
set yaw_expo = 5
set roll_srate = 85
set pitch_srate = 83
set yaw_srate = 150
set roll_rate_limit = 1998
set pitch_rate_limit = 1998
set yaw_rate_limit = 1998
set roll_level_expo = 0
set pitch_level_expo = 0
I saw the hq ultralight on your desk did you fly it with that props and if yes how is it on them ? I am curious it comes tomorrow and i have a bunch of the hq!
I genuinely forgot to add that segment into my video HAHAHHAHA but yes! I like them alot AND interestingly, there is a "HQ 31mm" PID profile. I think they're slightly better than the gemfans
Would you recommend normal Air 65 or champ ?
@@FusionKiwi-s9k I'd say the Champ is slightly better but thats really dependent on skill level. If you're comfortable with the high KV, the champ is great, but the standard versions are fine too
Man what do u mean by changing the antenna with a lighter dipole antenna? Isnt the original one a dipole?
l think he refers to the dipole one without the metal bell
Yup! the original on it is dipole but you can either shorten the antenna and/or remove the bell. That reduces your range a bit - but if you're just flying inside, it doesn't really matter....plus it's basically indestructible
bingo! I fly indoors so the reduction of range isn't too bad + it's slightly lighter
I don't know of any 0702 motor with bearings that weighs less than 1.5g. Whereas the traditional bushing design is a lot lighter - NBD and Betafpv's bushing 0702 both weigh ~1.3g. That's 0.8g of weight saving for one whoop, which is significant.
It's an endless debate whether the benefits of a motor with dual bearings justify the added weight. Sure, it flies smoother, more efficiently, and lasts for more packs, but at so many races I attend these days, everybody builds a brand new quad with brand new FC, motors, frame just for brackets, which are usually 3-lap full send races that don't require tremendous efficiency anyway, also since everyone is charging to 4.35V.
thank you for the input man! it's always good to get the perspective of actual professional pilots like you!
perhaps the dual ball bearing setup is more suited for pilots who aren't necessarily going to compete but maybe just training on a frequent basis where longevity is a nice bonus. But I do agree that it makes more sense to have a new fresh setup.
in all honesty, I didn't get to mention this in the video but I genuinely think that dual ball bearing motors is more of a freestyle advantage. Added longevity/durability + weight isn't as detrimental compared to a racing setup.
ps. I remembered you being referred to as "Yup" instead of "Yap" when I made the script of this video XD
Don’t the new race spec motors weigh like 5.1g for all 4?
@@tdogfpv hey man! we have another amazing pilot here XD but yeah, I believe those are the lightest 0702 brass bushing motors in the market and it's insane they got it to 1.29g per motor
Yo! are u from the Philippines?
@@FORTYVIII yeahhh I am!
@im_ricebowl nice! Where sa Phi?
@@FORTYVIII UYYY kakacheck ko lang channel mo XD Taguig ako rn
@@im_ricebowl minsan guerilla whoop tayo at BGC hehe
@@FORTYVIII G! pag term break ko na XD its so rare seeing someone sa manila na nagwhowhoop XD
The *piss off people* got me hard. Nice video!
I've learned that my scripts are more unhinged if I make them at night XD thanks for watching fam!