Merwin will always die, regardless of what you do. If they chose not to leave him behind and take merwin with them, he dies later. But merwin does do something very useful later on if you dont leave him behind
@@rorysheridan441 It's just so sad that nobody who I have seen play through this game have managed to keep him alive that long. I wonder if it's possible to go in with Bros Before Hoes and make neither Nick or Eric have a relationship with the Bitch.
@@I_THE_ME yeah it's possible, if you have a good relationship between nick and eric, and when playing as Rachel refuse to choose either of them when they both confront her
Spoilers: Yes kinda but unfortunately there two different types of premonitions(they don't make this very clear). Ones with a dark outline mean bad stuff with happen if you do this, ones with a light outline mean good stuff. They followed one with a dark border :D You are NOT supposed to cut the rope, if you don't cut the rope it frays and she falls just the same and she sees that it frayed. If you cut it she sees that. So if you want Rachel to end up with Nick then it could be good. It doesn't effect anyone getting hurt only the relationships.
I shouldn't be surprised that they missed the very obvious tablet with light shining on it, and it especially hurt when Toms like, "yeah that probably everything" lol
Most realistic depiction of the military so far: Lt. tells the CO what's really happening, CO tells him it's bullshit and tells him to stop jumping at shadows, Sgt. pipes up, Lt. tells him to snap out of the bullshit
"If there was a way out for these people..." Yes I'm sure everything went fine and that's why there's an abandoned machine gun, an entire base camp still unpacked, and multiple cords of undetonated TNT set up as traps, great work, Colonel
To be fair, there also aren't any bodies. At least not in the area in which all that stuff was located. Which implies that they had to abandon everything in a hurry and couldn't come back for it. That doesn't paint a great picture of events either, but it still doesn't rule out a potential way out.
Jason seems like the most reasonable character so far. Though we've seen little of Salim down in the ruins. Eric clearly thinks too highly of himself, and Nick is way too emotional. Rachel would've been a good leader for the group, if they didn't all have zero respect for her. Hopefully she shows up alive later! Of course, my assessments might be based on the Riddle Bros' decisions, rather than the game's characterization.
Oh! He's called Dropkick because of his leg! In Australia, Dropkick is a common insult, I just thought they called him it because he's a prick. I'm an idiot.
Dropkick is just a call sign. It's possible the writers meant it to be related to his leg, but I doubt it. The whole thing is a bit clunky, I think it would be more typical for call signs like that to be used when one station is calling another, not just amongst 3 people running around in relative close proximity
@@oliverholland6941 It's necessary for radio communications. In case the enemy is somehow listening in. It makes it harder for them to identify names and ranks. I don't know whether or not it would be used in this situation, but in my opinion it makes sense. Remember that is op wasn't originally just a handful of people - there were a dozen at least, not counting air support. Now, most of their force is killed or scattered, and they have no way of knowing how many enemies survived and ended up in the ruins. It wouldn't be hard for someone to take a radio off one of the many dead marines. Also, I would speculate that it's just a good thing to use out of habit - it might not be necessary for this particular mission, but it's better to get used to it just so you don't accidentally slip up on a future mission when it is necessary.
I thought that Nick was the one who was freaking out to leave Merwin because eRmAgErD Raaachelllll. So why does he freak out at Jason and condemn him for leaving him behind? ETA: And then he just takes Eric telling him about Rachel's 'death' in stride?
i really do like that the narrator guy is like "alright you've made it this far, these are the 5 important people that can make it through all of this alive"
@@alfredhadesworth9253 Yes it does - there are options to disable copyrighted music in some games. The setting could still be on from the last chapter they played. Not sure why that would affect voiceover, but it's possible the game had a bug also and the narration was turned off for that part if you have the option selected.
@@OhSoUnicornly But why would either of these options AUTOMATICALLY be turned on? It doesn't make sense. Yeah sure it makes sense, if you invent a bunch of variables. But they didn't activate those, or they wouldn't also be confused.
@@alfredhadesworth9253 Because this is chapter 3 of a game where the first chapter came out ages ago. They would've turned it on like a year ago when the first chapter came out, then forgotten about it completely. The settings would've stayed.
@@ohno8398 Some people need reminding now. Like a week or two back, when morons were panic-buying petrol, thinking they could hoard it, not realising it would go bad and ruin their engines if they ever tried to use it. Things like that make me smile.
most companies put an agent in it to make it go off so people dont store it, but given that that fuel is from ww2 and the can was open it would certainly not be a great state, also using duct tape to seal a fuel line wouldnt work very well as petrol dissolves glue
Sometimes I love the way they have characters interact like they are actually military. Then they do dumbshit like refer to someone by their callsign then immediately use their name in the same sentence.
Bloke, 150ft underground in a forgotten half-buried temple from four thousand years ago, fixing a World War II gatling gun, after an ambush by a bunch of heroin smugglers: "Is this a good time to have a heart to heart?"
Tom and Simon do take these games far more seriously, actually thinking about consequences and remembering the premonitions. Ravs and Lydia are just way too playful to get a serious playthrough I guess.
My favourite part about watching or playing choice-based video games is when you make one of the choices in one scene (such as not suffocating Merwin), the next scene we see the effects of that choice in has the choice get totally negated (Merwin pointlessly sacrifices himself). It comes up all the time. You could argue that Merwin bought them a few vital seconds, but if he had died earlier then they would have been faster as they wouldn't have been dragging him around, so the seconds are made up for regardless. It's just like the very first decision in this game, when there is the choice to kill the girl or not, and we saw Tom choose to kill her, but then she breaks free anyways. I'm not sure if you can choose not to kill her at the end of the fight, but all that does is apparently influence your relationship with the prisoner for the next five minutes before the prologue is over and we never see them again. It would honestly be more excusable if these games didn't constantly beat you over the head about how "every choice matters" and the butterfly effect and "everything you do will deeply impact the rest of your game". I'm still not over how Telltale treated Carly/Doug. I will remember that.
Yeah, it really sucks. Its like - This character has had their "did you fuck up" moment, then they barely have any lines or effect in the future. Your choices never really matter in these games and it sucks. Like, imagine a 5 minute playthrough where you fail to discover the cave and the vampires escape cause no-one blew them up. That'd be an interesting choice changing things.
It's just bound to happen, you either have to REALLY lean into playthroughs with differences, making a much shorter game with a lot of paths and replay value, or make a longer story with minor differences that are mostly designed to be played once like these. Though I'm not arguing that it's not annoying or that I wouldn't like to see more interesting consequences.
10:50 It's 2022 and I still find this funny Unfortunately I'm on the East Coast of the US so all of Europe and Asia have gotten a chance to do this already
How terrible an anthropologist would you have to be to think that a cuneiform tablet could hold information about Alexander the great? That's like finding some nordic runes carved into a stone and thinking they could lead you to Blackbeards berried treasure :p
Good thing these spark plugs are so easily accessed from the control panel! You know, like how you can swap your RAM easily by removing your keyboard keycaps...
How the unholy hell did they manage to use ~60 year old gas to start a generator? Shit, my boat won't even run on gas from last season, not to mention 60 years.
To answer Tom's question (even though I doubt he really cares all that much) modern gasoline does "go off" in a sense due to the fact we dilute it with ethanol and put detergents and a bunch of other pointless things into the mixture that both makes it unstable and over time causes it to eat away at components of fuel systems. Older gasoline however, if nothing contaminated it and it was left in a sealed container, will typically lasts a very long time. I've had an older car that sat for a long while run off of gas from the 80's no problem. As for the game though, the fact those open containers still had gas in them after sixty years? Yeah, no. It would have long been evaporated.
I'm watching this in 2022 and I still find this funny I actually never watched this last year- so watching for the first time ever on jan 1st makes it extra funny to me
Ugh... These games... They claim the spark plugs are bad, but the 60 year old gasoline is just fine... Fucks sake. Not my first time watching these playthroughs again... More please!
I actually thought that was my malware bytes and when simon said "oh there's an upgrade" I couldn't believe it damn anti malware software behaving like malware itself with constant popup overlays
Yeah I feel like the writers don't understand the difference between echolocation and just incredibly sensitive hearing (which bats do also have, but still).
Hey Tom could you PLEEEAAASE play Backbone. It's fully out now so you can finish it, I thought It was really up your alley. Also I'd love to see you play twelve minutes as well. 😊
Tom last episode: "Merwin is my favourite, we've got to save him."
Tom this episode: "Lets leave Merwin to die, it's what he would want."
Merwin will always die, regardless of what you do. If they chose not to leave him behind and take merwin with them, he dies later. But merwin does do something very useful later on if you dont leave him behind
@@rorysheridan441 It's just so sad that nobody who I have seen play through this game have managed to keep him alive that long. I wonder if it's possible to go in with Bros Before Hoes and make neither Nick or Eric have a relationship with the Bitch.
@@I_THE_ME yeah it's possible, if you have a good relationship between nick and eric, and when playing as Rachel refuse to choose either of them when they both confront her
I couldnt help but just scream IT WORKED, THE PREMONITION FINALLY WORKED when they cut the rope
Spoilers: Yes kinda but unfortunately there two different types of premonitions(they don't make this very clear). Ones with a dark outline mean bad stuff with happen if you do this, ones with a light outline mean good stuff. They followed one with a dark border :D
You are NOT supposed to cut the rope, if you don't cut the rope it frays and she falls just the same and she sees that it frayed. If you cut it she sees that. So if you want Rachel to end up with Nick then it could be good.
It doesn't effect anyone getting hurt only the relationships.
@@fleacythesheepgirlif you don’t cut the rope, but nick/Jason are not there to safe you, Eric gets punctured on the stalagmite
Can't believe I'm rewatching this series AGAIN. Just as funny as it was in '03!
(*feverishly setting an alarm for 00:00 on 01/01/2022, to win that delicious hippo that Simon ate*)
Jokes on you I set mine for December 31st 11pm
Good luck buddy
Did you win?
I shouldn't be surprised that they missed the very obvious tablet with light shining on it, and it especially hurt when Toms like, "yeah that probably everything" lol
after subnautica nobody should ever be surprised that tom misses blatantly obvious things staring him in the face
I'm rewatching this in 2022, and I STILL find it funny.
same for me but in 2023
2024 here and still find it funny
The guy coming down the rope shooting was hilarious
Also: just one Iraqi general and no backup? Lmao this game be wild
Tom really pre-recorded this series! cant believe Simon dated the video back in '03!
Can't believe how good this looks for a game made back in 2003.
@@Caipiranha89 I can't believe I am still enjoying it in 2021
Love how at first Nick suggests to leave Merwin behind, and then seconds later berates Jason for making a decision which aligns with his.
Maybe if Merwin hadn't used all that white phosphorous he could've had some for the evil monster demon pazuzu things.
_oh shidddd_
I don't think you'd want to be using WP grenades in a tunnel system ..
@@synchc
I might if I was about to die to a horrible monster.
WP and then pistol my own head.
@@synchc This comment was definitely written by a pazuzu
Most realistic depiction of the military so far: Lt. tells the CO what's really happening, CO tells him it's bullshit and tells him to stop jumping at shadows, Sgt. pipes up, Lt. tells him to snap out of the bullshit
Yeah, the tablet visions saved Merwin... then you immediately threw him under the bus. Loving the playthrough, keep making those decisions :)
12:00 Such a romantic moment with them shining light in each other's eyes
"If there was a way out for these people..."
Yes I'm sure everything went fine and that's why there's an abandoned machine gun, an entire base camp still unpacked, and multiple cords of undetonated TNT set up as traps, great work, Colonel
To be fair, there also aren't any bodies. At least not in the area in which all that stuff was located. Which implies that they had to abandon everything in a hurry and couldn't come back for it. That doesn't paint a great picture of events either, but it still doesn't rule out a potential way out.
Also he said a way IN for these people
Jason seems like the most reasonable character so far. Though we've seen little of Salim down in the ruins. Eric clearly thinks too highly of himself, and Nick is way too emotional.
Rachel would've been a good leader for the group, if they didn't all have zero respect for her. Hopefully she shows up alive later!
Of course, my assessments might be based on the Riddle Bros' decisions, rather than the game's characterization.
Yeah. When he was introduced Jason's traits included "intolerant," but he's so far been the most level-headed of his team. 😅
Oh! He's called Dropkick because of his leg!
In Australia, Dropkick is a common insult, I just thought they called him it because he's a prick.
I'm an idiot.
Dropkick is just a call sign. It's possible the writers meant it to be related to his leg, but I doubt it.
The whole thing is a bit clunky, I think it would be more typical for call signs like that to be used when one station is calling another, not just amongst 3 people running around in relative close proximity
@@oliverholland6941 It's necessary for radio communications. In case the enemy is somehow listening in. It makes it harder for them to identify names and ranks. I don't know whether or not it would be used in this situation, but in my opinion it makes sense. Remember that is op wasn't originally just a handful of people - there were a dozen at least, not counting air support. Now, most of their force is killed or scattered, and they have no way of knowing how many enemies survived and ended up in the ruins. It wouldn't be hard for someone to take a radio off one of the many dead marines. Also, I would speculate that it's just a good thing to use out of habit - it might not be necessary for this particular mission, but it's better to get used to it just so you don't accidentally slip up on a future mission when it is necessary.
I thought that Nick was the one who was freaking out to leave Merwin because eRmAgErD Raaachelllll. So why does he freak out at Jason and condemn him for leaving him behind?
ETA: And then he just takes Eric telling him about Rachel's 'death' in stride?
Jeez, am I the only one who would never want to be in a survival situation with these guys? lol
I’m watching this in 2024, and I still find it funny 10:53
if you can pull your spark plug out with just your hand then you have a bigger problem than a bad spark plug
i really do like that the narrator guy is like "alright you've made it this far, these are the 5 important people that can make it through all of this alive"
Not sure what’s wrong but the flashback should be fully voiced. Have you disabled cinematic audio? The title song in part one didn’t play either.
might be a copyright thing
That doesn't make sense, because the Riddle Bros didn't hear it either.
@@alfredhadesworth9253 Yes it does - there are options to disable copyrighted music in some games. The setting could still be on from the last chapter they played.
Not sure why that would affect voiceover, but it's possible the game had a bug also and the narration was turned off for that part if you have the option selected.
@@OhSoUnicornly But why would either of these options AUTOMATICALLY be turned on? It doesn't make sense. Yeah sure it makes sense, if you invent a bunch of variables. But they didn't activate those, or they wouldn't also be confused.
@@alfredhadesworth9253 Because this is chapter 3 of a game where the first chapter came out ages ago. They would've turned it on like a year ago when the first chapter came out, then forgotten about it completely. The settings would've stayed.
2:03 According to a quick and lazy Google search, gasoline starts to go bad after a couple of months.
Gotta remember that in the apocalypse
@@ohno8398 Some people need reminding now. Like a week or two back, when morons were panic-buying petrol, thinking they could hoard it, not realising it would go bad and ruin their engines if they ever tried to use it.
Things like that make me smile.
most companies put an agent in it to make it go off so people dont store it, but given that that fuel is from ww2 and the can was open it would certainly not be a great state, also using duct tape to seal a fuel line wouldnt work very well as petrol dissolves glue
Sometimes I love the way they have characters interact like they are actually military. Then they do dumbshit like refer to someone by their callsign then immediately use their name in the same sentence.
10:50 Im watching this in 2023 and still find this funny
Loving this series Tom, great to have Chauncey back on the case with you
I gotta say this series is really good! Commentary S tier and the games much better made than the last two
Bloke, 150ft underground in a forgotten half-buried temple from four thousand years ago, fixing a World War II gatling gun, after an ambush by a bunch of heroin smugglers: "Is this a good time to have a heart to heart?"
I'm watching this in 2024 and I still found it funny
I'm watching this in 2022, and I still find it funny!!!
Simon waiting until the last moment to remind Tom that Eric would die in the fall had me gripped by the THROAT I was so nervous lmao
So I got impatient and watched Ravs and Lydia playing the game, and the riddle bros are actually doing an excellent job compared
Who's channel was that on?
you can also check out rimmy , another yog that did the whole thing in one ep, a little less spooky version though...
@@nezubean6448 Ravs' twitch past broadcasts
I liked how Ravs saved Merwin.
Tom and Simon do take these games far more seriously, actually thinking about consequences and remembering the premonitions. Ravs and Lydia are just way too playful to get a serious playthrough I guess.
I'm watching this in 2023, and I STILL find this funny.
old gasoline loses combustibility and gets gooey. Under best conditions it'll last about 3 years. The stuff they find here would be useless.
Yeah but I think that’s forgivable for the sake of story telling.
Know I'm late, but the edit on this is A++ loving the heart beats and the transparancy on the notes :D Tom and Simon are fab too :)
I'm watching this in twenty twenty-two, and I still find this funny.
Thank you Malwarebytes for keeping our Riddle Bros safe
11:00 I'm watching in 2022 and I still find this funny
I feel like Generator Cat at 3:18 is an appropriate mascot for this series of videos.
10:50 *It's 2022 and I still find this funny.*
10:30 for real thanks for clearing that up I immediately was like "More like 80..." haha
My favourite part about watching or playing choice-based video games is when you make one of the choices in one scene (such as not suffocating Merwin), the next scene we see the effects of that choice in has the choice get totally negated (Merwin pointlessly sacrifices himself). It comes up all the time.
You could argue that Merwin bought them a few vital seconds, but if he had died earlier then they would have been faster as they wouldn't have been dragging him around, so the seconds are made up for regardless.
It's just like the very first decision in this game, when there is the choice to kill the girl or not, and we saw Tom choose to kill her, but then she breaks free anyways. I'm not sure if you can choose not to kill her at the end of the fight, but all that does is apparently influence your relationship with the prisoner for the next five minutes before the prologue is over and we never see them again.
It would honestly be more excusable if these games didn't constantly beat you over the head about how "every choice matters" and the butterfly effect and "everything you do will deeply impact the rest of your game".
I'm still not over how Telltale treated Carly/Doug. I will remember that.
Yeah, it really sucks. Its like - This character has had their "did you fuck up" moment, then they barely have any lines or effect in the future. Your choices never really matter in these games and it sucks.
Like, imagine a 5 minute playthrough where you fail to discover the cave and the vampires escape cause no-one blew them up. That'd be an interesting choice changing things.
You're able to keep merwin alive tho and he does more stuff so this big long rant u said is wrong...
Their choice made it so he didn't much more than sacrificing a few seconds after, but he can do more.
@@nitwriter4804 oh really?
How much effect does he have if you perfect merwin run, can he live to the end? Does he have decent new convos with people?
It's just bound to happen, you either have to REALLY lean into playthroughs with differences, making a much shorter game with a lot of paths and replay value, or make a longer story with minor differences that are mostly designed to be played once like these. Though I'm not arguing that it's not annoying or that I wouldn't like to see more interesting consequences.
10:50 It's 2022 and I still find this funny
Unfortunately I'm on the East Coast of the US so all of Europe and Asia have gotten a chance to do this already
How terrible an anthropologist would you have to be to think that a cuneiform tablet could hold information about Alexander the great? That's like finding some nordic runes carved into a stone and thinking they could lead you to Blackbeards berried treasure :p
They never said they were good anthropologists
Watching this in 2023 and I STILL find this funny!
I'm watching this in 2022, and I still find this funny!
I'm watching this in 2024, and I still find this funny
Spookiest thing was an upgrade pop up for an anti-virus I've never heard of 27:42
I’m watching this in 2022, and I still find this funny.
I'm watching this in 2022. And I still find that funny.
Tbh I miss the regular setup in Tom's office, I like the face cam better coz I can see their reactions to a spook.
I’m watching this in 2022 and still find it funny
I'm watching this in 2022(AEST), and I still find this funny
I'm watching this in 2022 and I still find it funny!
I can’t believe they missed the tablet in the room at the end. It was right next the light.
I watched this in 2024 and it's still funny
@11:00 - Almost 2022 and I still find this funny
Lovin the Simon Tom content, need more!!
I`m watching this in 2024 and still find it funny
10:45 I'm watching this in 2022 and I'm still finding this funny! its 2022 where my prize?
I’m watching in 2025, and I still find this funny
Good thing these spark plugs are so easily accessed from the control panel! You know, like how you can swap your RAM easily by removing your keyboard keycaps...
How the unholy hell did they manage to use ~60 year old gas to start a generator? Shit, my boat won't even run on gas from last season, not to mention 60 years.
Wasn't there a newspaper article in one of the previous games about an archaeologist that went missing in Iraq?
To answer Tom's question (even though I doubt he really cares all that much) modern gasoline does "go off" in a sense due to the fact we dilute it with ethanol and put detergents and a bunch of other pointless things into the mixture that both makes it unstable and over time causes it to eat away at components of fuel systems. Older gasoline however, if nothing contaminated it and it was left in a sealed container, will typically lasts a very long time. I've had an older car that sat for a long while run off of gas from the 80's no problem.
As for the game though, the fact those open containers still had gas in them after sixty years? Yeah, no. It would have long been evaporated.
I'm watching this in 2022 and I still find this funny
I actually never watched this last year- so watching for the first time ever on jan 1st makes it extra funny to me
Im watching this is 2023 and I still find this funny
Duct Tape seemed like a weird solution.
And according to google... gasoline will just straight up eat the adhesive and screw over the duct tape.
I mean... yeah? But at the same time, it's not like they give a rat's ass about a long-term fix.
It's still 2022 and I found it funny. =)
It is 2022 and I DO still find it funny.
I’m watching this in 2022, still just as funny lmao
This game reminds me of that myth about the US army killing a giant in iraq at the start of the war
I'm watching this in 2025 and it's still funny!
I'm watching this in 2003 and I still think it's funny
27:43 i thot it was a pop upp on my screen XD
Jason is a good character in the late game especially his character development
I'm watching this is 2022, but I still find this funny!
Sorry, had to do it 🤣
Ugh... These games... They claim the spark plugs are bad, but the 60 year old gasoline is just fine... Fucks sake. Not my first time watching these playthroughs again... More please!
I am looking forward to my future kinder hippo
I’m rewatching this in 2023, and it’s STILL funny.
The voice acting in these have been pretty good, but man are the animations funky lol
I like how the guns flip around when they cut scenes near the end
Yeah if less was spent on textures etc. and a lot more on animations the game would look way better. Mainly faces for me.
I actually thought that was my malware bytes and when simon said "oh there's an upgrade" I couldn't believe it
damn anti malware software behaving like malware itself with constant popup overlays
i am just watching this in 2022.. and it is indeed still funny.... where's my god damned Kinder Hippo!!!
If these vampire things hunt via echolocation, why does it make a difference whether or not the characters stay quiet?
Yeah I feel like the writers don't understand the difference between echolocation and just incredibly sensitive hearing (which bats do also have, but still).
Anyone else see the machine gun freak out at 34:56. I think iffy model rigging contributes to the overall jank of this games animations and cutscenes
"We were on break Rachel!"
I'm watching this in 2022 and I still find it funny.
I'm watching this in 2022 and I still find this funny.
didnt they show the cuttint the rope scean in the last game???
Just checked in as it uploaded, let's gooooo
Hey Tom could you PLEEEAAASE play Backbone. It's fully out now so you can finish it, I thought It was really up your alley.
Also I'd love to see you play twelve minutes as well. 😊
I love this serie guys keep it up
I'm watching this in 2022 and I still find this funny!
“Im watching this in 2022, and it’s still funny”.
Im expecting my kinder hippo, bitches
Im watching this in 2024, and I still find this funny 🙃
I'm watching this in 2022 and I still found this funny :)
It is 2022 and I still find this video funny!
This series is great
I'm watching this in 2023 and it's still funny
damn you beat me to it
The temptation to post the comment about watching in 2022.... but I see many people have gotten here before me in the last 30 days lol