So funny, guilty here. People have been driving their babies around to get them to fall asleep. Now we're using virtual driving to put ourselves to sleep. But don't tell the pharmaceuticals they'll have it outlawed.
Great video, especially for this CVT version. If I upgraded from a Civic Sport Hatchback or Sport Touring Hatchback for my next vehicle of choice, this would definitely be it in Apex Blue Pearl with a spare tire/jack, etc. I acknowledge the non adaptive suspension of the Si along with the manual transmission and LSD for the Si and This Integra A-Spec Tech package, is the ultimate performance offering for these two vehicles, but like you mentioned, some of us prefer an automatic. I wasn't raised an automotive enthusiast, a full out hardcore auto sports one, and I am older, and don't drive that fast anymore, so this would be perfect for what I want. This has the basic great design of the new Civic, with the power of the Si, actually underated engine output, with the hatchback cargo utility, and an even better upgrade from the Bose stereo system, with the ELS one, which is a must have, being a diehard music lover, electronic/sound tech of sorts, and musician/keyboard enthusiast. And with this, I would be getting much more than minimal performance, customization options and accessories than the Civic counterparts. I don't want the optional 19" wheels/tires, and available carbon fiber mirror caps, lower side body extensions and rear spoiler. All in all, a great new rendition of the Classic Integra with the nice nostalgic Integra and Acura logos on the bumpers and headlights. Here in Hawaii, it would probably be $40K with the stealership scalping fee. But if I could swing it over the aforementioned Civic offerings, I feel it is well worth the money.
The Integra has been a welcomed unexpected surprise. Thought it wouldn’t be a contender but it seems to be just improved enough over a Civic to be viable.
@@xtralex3010 not as reliable? Correct me if I’m wrong, but wasn’t Mazda up there with Toyota and Lexus in terms of reliability according to Consumer Reports? Every TH-camr comments on how reliable their engines are, this channel included if you watch the last Mazda 3 turbo AWD video. Hell, Savagegeese did an entire series on his personal opinion on the 3 after years of ownership and reliability wasn’t one of his gripes. I haven’t driven a new Integra so I can’t comment on the suspension comparison, but I actually like Mazda’s infotainment. Sure it’s dated, but I prefer something that’s simplistic and has been proven over time to hold up; if I wanted an infotainment-centric car, I’d be driving a Tesla instead of a Lexus.
I own a 2021 Civic Sport Hatch with a CVT. I love the CVT, the gas mileage I get is amazing. The trade off is terribly slow acceleration at low RPM’s. I don’t think it’s a good fit for luxury cars though where money and gas mileage should not be a deciding factor.
I'm ok with CVT, and actually own a car with CVT, what I'm not ok with is the fake shifting, it's very annoying... What I actually like about CVT is when it hangs in gear and doesn't shift, feels very smooth that way... If I wanted shifts, I would get a conventional automatic or manual transmission.. Bring back the linear no fake shifts CVT! Or they should have an option to disable fake shifts at least.
@@BoCObeats I’ve driven this motor with the CVT in the CR-V and it feels incredibly slow. To really get any RPM/Power out of them you have to use a lot of throttle which gives the slow sensation, but that sort of lazy pedal tuning is good for fuel economy and the trade off is welcome to most buyers. Turbo response is less of a CVT thing and more the fact that it’s just a well engineered turbo/motor combination. The turbo spools at 1500rpm which is really appreciated in the manual Si, useful torque and really quick around town. The CVT tuning is very stubborn, it’s constantly nagging you to watch your fuel economy. Hesitant and unresponsive to throttle input, but as soon as you let off the revs shoot down to save on fuel. I get it’s trying to save gas, but the car feels like it’s not on my side. But I’m not the buyer for that sort of thing, even for a daily I prefer hard aggressive shifts like in the dual clutch GTI so I wouldn’t have the appreciation for the smoothness.
Don't quote me on this, but I heard that if you turn on the cruise control (just get it in the "ready" mode, not necessarily the "active" mode) it disables fake shifts.
@@clover7359 that would be so great, too bad I don't have newer CVT's to try... I heard that if you launch the car (stepping on the brake and gas at the same time then release the brake to launch, usually done for testing 0 to 60 times), the fake shifts is not used...
I just drove the 6MT Integra and the car really surprised me with it’s overall characteristics. It handles well and feels very solid in both terms of chassis feel and interior quality. I think it’s a perfect daily driver for those that don’t want/need power past 50mph. My biggest gripes are the car’s looks and engine. I think it’s a great looking car, but is it going to look great in 10 years from now? I highly doubt it; it’s too aggressive in it’s styling and this will show in time. The 1.5L surprised me with it’s responsiveness and smoothness (not to be confused with effortless delivery of power which wasn’t apparent to me). Still, it feels like an engine that has to be pushed to the limit every time you want/need power and it left me with the feeling of “it’s quite good, but I want more.” The manual transmission was certainly a highlight: rev hang didn’t seem too bad and the shifter is great (clutch is light and gives some feedback). Overall, I think a 2.0L engine with maybe 230-250hp would have put it more in line with cars such as the GTI or even BMW 230i. I really liked the car, but I think I’m going to wait for a better proposition for my driving needs. My preorder has been canceled so I really hope someone else who appreciates the car will get it! Just a markup heads up: the dealer I test drove with in Florida added $10,000 in dealer added accessories (but no “markup”). Basically new wheels/tires, spoiler, trim, diffuser, and side skirts. Sticker was about $50,000 all said and done (lol). Cheers!
$50k 😢. What do banks think about the added markup? Can you do zero down, or are they (now) expecting a 20% down payment for "good faith"? My local Honda Dealer has had less than 5 new cars on the lot over the last 6+ months. New cars come in but are gone in a few days. There is literally NO inventory. I think ppl are ordering and buying from the brochure w/o even test driving the car. Sad, really sad.
What’s the name of the song? Also I love the people saying this car will be a flop. As a current owner of the 6 speed, I think it’s a killer car. Has tons of space for how small it is, great fuel economy, looks classier than the civic, less road noise, no rattles in mine, the list goes in. I feel like the people complaining simply are mad it costs more
The ILX literally came with a DCT, it was one of the only redeemable parts about the whole car. I like the new Integra and have defended it from the beginning, but this doesn't really sell the "definitely not a fancied up civic" thing.
Literally no one has ever said it's definitely not a fancied up civic. I don't know where you got that from. That's not a thing at all. Everyone knows every single Acura compact car made has been a fancied up Civic and even Acura have never pretended otherwise.
Cvt transmission are fine. Just drain and fill the transmission pan every 30 to 50k miles. I don't like them personally. But honda & toyota CVT are amazing compared to nissan.
...but, but, but the service department will tell you it isn't necessary and there is no drain/fill plug and the trans is sealed. Anything to get out of the service; but they will push valve cleaning, $60 cabin air filter replacement, and fuel system conditioning.
I think it comes down to economies of scale. The 1.5T w/t CVT is an existing, mass-produced powertrain that Honda could simply make more of and lower the cost-per-part. The good news is that if I'm right, the Type S, if it should ever exist, will probably just get an Accord 2.0T w/t 10-speed drop for the same reasons. Car manufacturers are generally trying to move to a single engine and single transmission across all models, and then you just tweak it as needed. That lowers costs while they convert to an all-EV lineup.
I thought the tech package was required to get the A-Spec package. One of those stacked package deals where the best sport stuff is locked behind tech stuff...
Excellent review! I currently own a GR86 which I absolutely love, but lack of space has me wanting a new car. This might fit the bill. It’s also a car my wife could drive since she refuses to drive a manual.
Integras have come with an automatic since the DA4 days, just not on the performance trims... In any event, this isn't a sports car in any way, shape or form. It's simply a "sporty" economy car. It's all about sales... and Honda sells a ton with the current formula.
Greater market exposure. They would prob have to kill the new integra pretty quick if they didnt have the large appeal. Its what funds the enthusiast endeavors
Because they know anyone who actually cares about “performance” will just opt for the 6MT anyway. Why bother dumping millions into R&D for a new auto when almost nobody driving the auto will care that it is/isn’t a CVT? Subaru does the same with the WRX lineup. Mazda does a similar thing with the Miata, since the auto in that car isn’t exactly stellar either. It’s not worth putting money into developing a new performance auto when the prime demographic for the auto models aren’t car enthusiasts.
Comparing a fully loaded Integra Aspec Tech to fully loaded Civic Sport Touring, one would have to decide if 20 hp, 15 lb-ft torque, memory driver seat, upgraded els sound system, adaptive dampers, heads up display, the subjective better exterior styling, the better dealer and service experience and the Acura luxury badge is worth it. And if you compare the manual versions, you also get the lsd. NVH may also be improved.
Hi, do you recommend this fully loaded model as a daily driver? I want something comfortable to soak in the bumps and potholes, wondering if the adaptive suspension is worth it?
Especially for a car that has an iconic, quick, sports car name and history. Like my 2022 i4 Camry Le has a bit more horsepower than this and to me, that's sad.
I agree, I had a 2017 Civic Si and put the Phearable tune on it but even so it felt me wanting a bit more for every day driving. Looking for at least 300hp in my next sporty car
It Is but times have changed tho my oldsmobile intrigue had 197hp from a 3.8l v6. Meanwhile it's non turbocharged 4 cylinders making that power while being more efficient.
I see comments in other videos saying that those crappy tires are a dealbreaker. If you don't like the tires, just change them out. After all, tires will wear out, so you'll have to change them out eventually anyway.
I'm literally SO torn between the CVT and Manual. My heart is leaning manual... but my commute is pushing me to CVT... but like... the manual is better right!?
this would be a very good beater car for the city. Practical, reliable, efficient, fast enough, fun enough, spacious enough; for those that are tired of dailying their 911 or Vantage or Vette or something, this might be the logical commuter second car.
Great vid. Yes the noise on this rough pavement comes through but would in any car. I think this is a great car having driven the Honda sport touring hatch a few times with its CVT. What I don’t get is the pricing. I would understand not putting the manual in the base trim to keep from stealing sales from the Si, but that would be in normal times. No way to It steal sales in this market given that Honda cannot meet demand now. And the the top trim with the CVT is a tough price to swallow, compared to the Honda sport touring hatch. But the Integra does look better and the paint choices are more premium. I like this engine and CVT combo at 29-30k but not at 37k. Sure it has more HP than the civic’s tune but not enough to make a huge difference. But I am an Integra fan. Glad that manufacturers are giving us these fairly terrific choices of small sedans in this cuv crazed world.
What’s the issue with cvt? Ik the main problems with Nissan, had to deal with their faulty trans. But idk the main hate for it. I believed it would be a better trans if a different company made it, but ig not.
@@Chimps010 I have had 2 Nissan's with the CVT and the 2nd one (Maxima) was a great experience overall, but any CVT lacks the nice feeling of a real automatic or dual clutch. With 200hp, you'll still get the rubber band effect and extra noise in the cabin...
It’s probably around the same size as a Camry but the main difference is the Camry comes standard with a naturally aspirated 2.5 engine with 205HP and a real automatic transmission. Not to mention you can a V6 Camry which is about the same price of an Integra.
Just found a dealer that isn't marking up their vehicles (confirmed with the manager and in writing) and any accessories they offer are optional if you reserve one so I can tell them I don't want them (only 1600 total compared to others I've seen the total up to 6-8k) before the car arrives at the dealer. Only con is I have to wait till sometime in August but that's a non issue when I'm getting this for cheaper than the 22 civic touring.
I'm going to be test driving an Acura Intergra A-Spec Tech Package hopefully sometime this week, My first car was an Acura RSX automatic. My last car was an Acura TLX 2016 V6.
It will be interesting to see how Integra vs 2GC will change when the BM2 2GC gets refreshed. BMW has a track record of the refreshed version not being as good as the previous version when it comes to the likes of 2023 vs 2022 X7, 3-Series and 2C.
looking between this and the TLX but man this hot hatch is hard to beat I honestly like this interior better than the TLX are you driving around Lake Travis looks like some of the roads near my lakehose!
Interesting that pricing for this isn't that far off from the base FWD TLX, which has 272 HP, 280 lb-ft torque, and a 10-speed auto. MSRP (if you can find a "stripper") is $ 38,900. It comes pretty loaded with the "nannies" and other goodies.
they're sort of perfect for Honda guys since they love to just bounce off the rev limiter all day. Now they can basically redline their car all the time
The Civic’s been using CVTs since… what? Model year 2014? I think the record’s been pretty solid on them since I haven’t read much about widespread failures of Honda’s CVTs. They’re not the most engaging transmission, but, hey, they seem to be fairly reliable (so far).
@@theconformist2399first civic with a cvt was an 06 8th gen. Super smooth. They been making cvts for a long time. Never heard anything about them shitting out. Now nissan on the other hand.... oof
imagine if in 20 years they create new automatic gas pushing cars and cars where you push the gas yourself become like how manual transmissions are today
While the car does look cool, I think Acura should have done a few things differently. A bigger HD center screen, with a differently styled climate/vent area (too similar to the Civic), different style shifter that looks more modern, along with more upscale trim and different door handles. Should have used the 10-speed automatic and the Accord's 2.0T engine, with the addition of AWD. 250hp-300hp would be a good amount of power to give this car. Would have been a much more sportier and pleasant combination.
I'd be interested to see if they build a type S model in the future which would be similar to what you were describing, although I don't know if the awd would be necessary as the original integras were always fwd traditionally. Would be also interesting to see if maybe they would implement the underpinnings of the Civic Type R, but if I had to guess, the way it currently is is porbably all we're gonna get.
@@nicklake2902 That is true, but the older Integra never used a CVT, and didn't resemble the Civic that closely. Also, in today's market there are way too many competitive cars, so they would have to go the extra mile to sway buyers from something like an Elantra N or GTI. If they gave this car a real transmission, 300+hp and AWD, while keeping it under 3500 lbs, it would be a hot seller, offering excellent performance and handling. That center screen is literally out of the Civic, and something that is 10" would be more appropriate. Like they should have at least upgraded the interior styling.
the Type S will very likely have the 2.0T w/t a 10-speed or 6-speed. Honda won't reinvent the wheel just for the "Integra." It's easier to just use existing powertrains and drop them in. Assuming it has the same 250ish horsepower as the Accord, with fairly little weight gain (going from a turbo 4 to a turbo 4, not the giant penalty that the TLX has going from a turbo 4 to a turbo 6), it should end up being a pretty quick car, probably comparable to the GTI.
My best guess it that they have everything you wrote in mind reserved for yearly updates/refreshes. They’re likely just holding things back on purpose.
You like the changes Acura made to the interior compared to the civic? I own a 22 civic. 90% of that interior is pulled from the civic. The shifter, the door switches, the door pull, the infotainment screen, the 10 inch digital cluster, the round AC knobs, the AC vent toggles etc. I love my civic and I like this integra but the interior is civic with some very minor tweaks. Lol
I think the Jetta GLI is a better value than the Integra. The 7 speed DSG is going to be better than a CVT, and the engine in the integra just doesn’t compare to the competition. The Mazda 3 I would take over this for sure. And the Toyota Camry really beats the tar out of the integra. Especially the V6 equipped ones. And the Camry has ventilated seats, a personal favorite feature.
totally totally different cars. you're getting a luxury car in the integra, the build quality of the acuras is amazing and way better looking than the camry imo
The mock "close ratios" make it actually pretty good. The "shifting" is actually pretty quick! I've always sort of wondered why the regular drive mode isn't just a regular CVT but then when you throw it into sport mode, it will imitate gears. Seems a little excessive to simulate gearing 24/7.
the new integra is an amazing car. I think the issue is that Honda/Acura made the new Civic SI so good that its not worth speeding the extra cash for this when they are so similar . Especially a 6 speed manual over the CVT
It is though. Underestimating. Others have to and was surprised!!! You cheating yourself. For a few more thousands you get your monies worth and more. Especially with the prestige and resell alone. The quality
I don’t get the hate this car is getting from some people and yes this car is better than the Civic either on manual or CVT configuration, the difference between the 6M/T and the SI and it applies as well to the CVT A-Spec technology against the Civic Touring is roughly $6k, but for that money you are getting a lot more car first the exterior design is a lot nicer, and the interior although similar is way more premium on the Acura, way better sound system(seriously better), more HP in the CVT version since the integra has the engine with 200HP as the 6M/T and the SI, the Civic Touring has 185HP?, also you get adaptive dampers along with a luxury badge(yes that counts isn’t the same driving an Acura than a Civic, let’s face it), one thing I agree completely is Acura should have used the 8 Spd tranny from the ILX rather than the CVT for a civic is fine but Acura should have done better, my take is they wanted to keep the car at a price point and I get that but I do understand the hate on that anything else is unfounded, overall you are getting a much nicer car and I think the price is justified.
Acura is all about performance tho so if your paying for a more luxury version basically of a civic si then shouldn’t the integra drive better & smoother than the civic ?
I think I'd just go with a Civic Sport Touring hatchback and save some money. Besides, lifting stiff over the Integra's rear hatch sill would not agree with my back. Plus, the rear headroom in the Civic is way more practical. Now, maybe I'd reconsider if the Integra came with more than 200hp and a dual-clutch trans...
Lifting stuff over the Integras hatch is not good for your back but the Civics lower feel crappy bare bones no lumbar support seat is ok for your back?
I was in the same boat choosing between a civic hatchback sport touring and integra a-spec or a-spec tech. Dealer mark-up made the decision much easier since they charge 3k+ above the 31.5k msrp for a civic hb sport touring, which made the price up to 35k, while i can get a a-spec tech cvt at msrp. So the better features easily justified the 2k price difference. Now waiting to get the car. (Civic also needed ~2 weeks to deliver, so that doesn’t matter either)
See the 6-speed manual Integra review here: th-cam.com/video/UA9OLqEUbJE/w-d-xo.html
Quicker getting up to speed vs manual? All 0 to 60 vids show the opposite the manual is quicker.
This model or legacy sport? Thoughts?
I honestly listen to your videos every night… they help me sleep xD they’re not boring tho! Just relaxing
Same lol
True. Same here 😄
Same. I think its the binaural audio that really makes these nice to listen to and watch
So funny, guilty here. People have been driving their babies around to get them to fall asleep. Now we're using virtual driving to put ourselves to sleep. But don't tell the pharmaceuticals they'll have it outlawed.
You help me sleep by reading this comment
He kicks his feet together before entering, good man
Always deliver with no nonsense! Straight to the point.
Great video, especially for this CVT version.
If I upgraded from a Civic Sport Hatchback or Sport Touring Hatchback for my next vehicle of choice, this would definitely be it in Apex Blue Pearl with a spare tire/jack, etc.
I acknowledge the non adaptive suspension of the Si along with the manual transmission and LSD for the Si and This Integra A-Spec Tech package, is the ultimate performance offering for these two vehicles, but like you mentioned, some of us prefer an automatic.
I wasn't raised an automotive enthusiast, a full out hardcore auto sports one, and I am older, and don't drive that fast anymore, so this would be perfect for what I want.
This has the basic great design of the new Civic, with the power of the Si, actually underated engine output, with the hatchback cargo utility, and an even better upgrade from the Bose stereo system, with the ELS one, which is a must have, being a diehard music lover, electronic/sound tech of sorts, and musician/keyboard enthusiast.
And with this, I would be getting much more than minimal performance, customization options and accessories than the Civic counterparts.
I don't want the optional 19" wheels/tires, and available carbon fiber mirror caps, lower side body extensions and rear spoiler.
All in all, a great new rendition of the Classic Integra with the nice nostalgic Integra and Acura logos on the bumpers and headlights.
Here in Hawaii, it would probably be $40K with the stealership scalping fee. But if I could swing it over the aforementioned Civic offerings, I feel it is well worth the money.
The Integra has been a welcomed unexpected surprise. Thought it wouldn’t be a contender but it seems to be just improved enough over a Civic to be viable.
Thanks for being a honest and quiet TH-camr who will always calm me down and clear my mind
Best sound system at this price point.
I think Mazda3 Turbo and Integra will have a direct competition going on.
The Mazda Turbo wins against this since it doesn’t have a CVT.
@@mattmolloy636 plus isn't this fwd
@@mattmolloy636 umm no Mazda suspension sucks... bumpy ride, not as reliable, mpg is worse, dated infotainment not better looking(subjective).
@@xtralex3010 not as reliable? Correct me if I’m wrong, but wasn’t Mazda up there with Toyota and Lexus in terms of reliability according to Consumer Reports? Every TH-camr comments on how reliable their engines are, this channel included if you watch the last Mazda 3 turbo AWD video. Hell, Savagegeese did an entire series on his personal opinion on the 3 after years of ownership and reliability wasn’t one of his gripes. I haven’t driven a new Integra so I can’t comment on the suspension comparison, but I actually like Mazda’s infotainment. Sure it’s dated, but I prefer something that’s simplistic and has been proven over time to hold up; if I wanted an infotainment-centric car, I’d be driving a Tesla instead of a Lexus.
@@mattmolloy636 not to mention the integra has the 1.5 turbo which is notoriously known to have major oil dilution.
I own a 2021 Civic Sport Hatch with a CVT. I love the CVT, the gas mileage I get is amazing. The trade off is terribly slow acceleration at low RPM’s. I don’t think it’s a good fit for luxury cars though where money and gas mileage should not be a deciding factor.
Drop it into sport, I have to do it all the time on the freeway when passing, but it solves most of the issues.
So do you recommend the manual if gas is not an issue?
@@BkBk-gy6vr the car still gets good gas mileage with a manual, the CVT is just better.
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Recommend the manual if you are not ready to be interred at a cemetery.
Hybrid Civic is going to really good, since the electric motors will do the heavy lifting on low speeds.
I'm ok with CVT, and actually own a car with CVT, what I'm not ok with is the fake shifting, it's very annoying... What I actually like about CVT is when it hangs in gear and doesn't shift, feels very smooth that way... If I wanted shifts, I would get a conventional automatic or manual transmission..
Bring back the linear no fake shifts CVT! Or they should have an option to disable fake shifts at least.
@@BoCObeats I’ve driven this motor with the CVT in the CR-V and it feels incredibly slow. To really get any RPM/Power out of them you have to use a lot of throttle which gives the slow sensation, but that sort of lazy pedal tuning is good for fuel economy and the trade off is welcome to most buyers. Turbo response is less of a CVT thing and more the fact that it’s just a well engineered turbo/motor combination. The turbo spools at 1500rpm which is really appreciated in the manual Si, useful torque and really quick around town. The CVT tuning is very stubborn, it’s constantly nagging you to watch your fuel economy. Hesitant and unresponsive to throttle input, but as soon as you let off the revs shoot down to save on fuel. I get it’s trying to save gas, but the car feels like it’s not on my side. But I’m not the buyer for that sort of thing, even for a daily I prefer hard aggressive shifts like in the dual clutch GTI so I wouldn’t have the appreciation for the smoothness.
I don't get the point of fake shifts. It slows the car down.
Don't quote me on this, but I heard that if you turn on the cruise control (just get it in the "ready" mode, not necessarily the "active" mode) it disables fake shifts.
@@clover7359 that would be so great, too bad I don't have newer CVT's to try...
I heard that if you launch the car (stepping on the brake and gas at the same time then release the brake to launch, usually done for testing 0 to 60 times), the fake shifts is not used...
@@JaydenET I hate the crv rented one before mad slow no response takes a long time to get high speed
This CVT Integra is actually not too bad~ I wouldn't mind driving this~
I just drove the 6MT Integra and the car really surprised me with it’s overall characteristics. It handles well and feels very solid in both terms of chassis feel and interior quality. I think it’s a perfect daily driver for those that don’t want/need power past 50mph.
My biggest gripes are the car’s looks and engine. I think it’s a great looking car, but is it going to look great in 10 years from now? I highly doubt it; it’s too aggressive in it’s styling and this will show in time. The 1.5L surprised me with it’s responsiveness and smoothness (not to be confused with effortless delivery of power which wasn’t apparent to me). Still, it feels like an engine that has to be pushed to the limit every time you want/need power and it left me with the feeling of “it’s quite good, but I want more.” The manual transmission was certainly a highlight: rev hang didn’t seem too bad and the shifter is great (clutch is light and gives some feedback). Overall, I think a 2.0L engine with maybe 230-250hp would have put it more in line with cars such as the GTI or even BMW 230i.
I really liked the car, but I think I’m going to wait for a better proposition for my driving needs. My preorder has been canceled so I really hope someone else who appreciates the car will get it!
Just a markup heads up: the dealer I test drove with in Florida added $10,000 in dealer added accessories (but no “markup”). Basically new wheels/tires, spoiler, trim, diffuser, and side skirts. Sticker was about $50,000 all said and done (lol).
Cheers!
"ITS": belonging to "it". No apostrophe. "IT'S": short for "it is".
@@mrsj1417 I know I know. This is a casual comment, not a doctoral thesis/dissertation.
Always that one nerd
That "markup" is insane... I'd much rather go for a tlx aspec at that price.
$50k 😢. What do banks think about the added markup? Can you do zero down, or are they (now) expecting a 20% down payment for "good faith"? My local Honda Dealer has had less than 5 new cars on the lot over the last 6+ months. New cars come in but are gone in a few days. There is literally NO inventory. I think ppl are ordering and buying from the brochure w/o even test driving the car. Sad, really sad.
Strongly considered this, but picked up a ‘22 Accord 2.0t instead. Pros and cons of both, but I love the accord.
Best side
Of this car is its reliability!its more important than a brand.
Interested in seeing if Acura will make a Hybrid Integra with the 2.0L hybrid setup from the new European Civic Hybrid.
They won’t. Acura is skipping hybrids and going straight to full electric.
What’s the name of the song?
Also I love the people saying this car will be a flop. As a current owner of the 6 speed, I think it’s a killer car. Has tons of space for how small it is, great fuel economy, looks classier than the civic, less road noise, no rattles in mine, the list goes in. I feel like the people complaining simply are mad it costs more
The Acura Civic just looks so good
The ILX literally came with a DCT, it was one of the only redeemable parts about the whole car.
I like the new Integra and have defended it from the beginning, but this doesn't really sell the "definitely not a fancied up civic" thing.
They’re not trying to sell it as “definitely not a fancied up Civic”. Everybody knows the Integra has ALWAYS been a fancied up Civic!
@@googleface5 exactly! That is what the Integra is and always has been haha and people love it for that.
Literally no one has ever said it's definitely not a fancied up civic. I don't know where you got that from. That's not a thing at all. Everyone knows every single Acura compact car made has been a fancied up Civic and even Acura have never pretended otherwise.
I'm looking at the GTI with DSG or the Integra with CVT. THOUGHTS? THANKS!
Cvt transmission are fine. Just drain and fill the transmission pan every 30 to 50k miles. I don't like them personally. But honda & toyota CVT are amazing compared to nissan.
...but, but, but the service department will tell you it isn't necessary and there is no drain/fill plug and the trans is sealed. Anything to get out of the service; but they will push valve cleaning, $60 cabin air filter replacement, and fuel system conditioning.
What exactly was the point of them not putting the dual clutch out of the ILX in this?
If I were to make a guess, cost cutting
I can’t imagine it would’ve been cost effective to make a dual clutch designed for a 2.4 litre work with a 1.5 litre turbo.
@@klever6913 they shoulda redesigned that shit, the integra is an iconic ass car and it should’ve been as good as possible
I think it comes down to economies of scale. The 1.5T w/t CVT is an existing, mass-produced powertrain that Honda could simply make more of and lower the cost-per-part. The good news is that if I'm right, the Type S, if it should ever exist, will probably just get an Accord 2.0T w/t 10-speed drop for the same reasons.
Car manufacturers are generally trying to move to a single engine and single transmission across all models, and then you just tweak it as needed. That lowers costs while they convert to an all-EV lineup.
@@elenchus 10 speed should’ve been standard tbh
Honestly I’d buy this car in a heat beat if I didn’t have a Volvo already :) this is no brainer! Great price and reliability etc!
Glad to see mid size sedans making a come back
this is a compact not mid sized
@@adventsociety5382same thing. This is only 6” shorter than Camry. To me Camry is large sedan.
People forget the Integra was just a better civic. This seems spot on.
Can you please drive the A-spec (not tech Package), I feel this is the car that the other half of consumers would buy!
Idt journalists get lower spec cars easily
I thought the tech package was required to get the A-Spec package. One of those stacked package deals where the best sport stuff is locked behind tech stuff...
@@K03sport they reversed it for the ILX. it used to go Tech than A Spec with tech, now it's A Spec then A Spec with tech.
I like the look and liftback. Just can't see enough reason to select this over a more potent, lower priced Mazda 3 turbo.
M.D. you are so right!
Kirk says that the Acura has better handling and ride quality.
How about ride quality, mpg(how about those gas prices), reliability, updated infotainment just to name a few.
You can fit humans in the back seat of the Integra instead of small package.
@@ThirdBrainLives I totally forgot legroom
Excellent review! I currently own a GR86 which I absolutely love, but lack of space has me wanting a new car. This might fit the bill. It’s also a car my wife could drive since she refuses to drive a manual.
Why even bother making an enthusiasts sports car if your gonna make the auto option a cvt
Because it isnt 😉
Integras have come with an automatic since the DA4 days, just not on the performance trims... In any event, this isn't a sports car in any way, shape or form. It's simply a "sporty" economy car. It's all about sales... and Honda sells a ton with the current formula.
Greater market exposure. They would prob have to kill the new integra pretty quick if they didnt have the large appeal. Its what funds the enthusiast endeavors
Because they know anyone who actually cares about “performance” will just opt for the 6MT anyway. Why bother dumping millions into R&D for a new auto when almost nobody driving the auto will care that it is/isn’t a CVT? Subaru does the same with the WRX lineup. Mazda does a similar thing with the Miata, since the auto in that car isn’t exactly stellar either. It’s not worth putting money into developing a new performance auto when the prime demographic for the auto models aren’t car enthusiasts.
I don't think its for enthusiasts anymore. Expect to see these parked in front of nail salons and hair dressers....
My civic sport touring is the exact same car just with a different badge and slightly different exterior for 5k less
Comparing a fully loaded Integra Aspec Tech to fully loaded Civic Sport Touring, one would have to decide if 20 hp, 15 lb-ft torque, memory driver seat, upgraded els sound system, adaptive dampers, heads up display, the subjective better exterior styling, the better dealer and service experience and the Acura luxury badge is worth it. And if you compare the manual versions, you also get the lsd. NVH may also be improved.
Hi, do you recommend this fully loaded model as a daily driver? I want something comfortable to soak in the bumps and potholes, wondering if the adaptive suspension is worth it?
I feel like 200hp is getting old nowadays
Especially for a car that has an iconic, quick, sports car name and history. Like my 2022 i4 Camry Le has a bit more horsepower than this and to me, that's sad.
I agree, I had a 2017 Civic Si and put the Phearable tune on it but even so it felt me wanting a bit more for every day driving. Looking for at least 300hp in my next sporty car
True, but I don't think there are any manufacturers willing to put like a 300 hp engine in their base configuration.
@@MasonnYu get the type r, or the new Corolla GR when it comes out.
It Is but times have changed tho my oldsmobile intrigue had 197hp from a 3.8l v6. Meanwhile it's non turbocharged 4 cylinders making that power while being more efficient.
I see comments in other videos saying that those crappy tires are a dealbreaker. If you don't like the tires, just change them out. After all, tires will wear out, so you'll have to change them out eventually anyway.
Right, like Integra owners NEVER modify their cars! /s
Those people that are saying that just cant afford this car and want to gripe about the smallest thing.
4:41 change the VTEC！
I'm literally SO torn between the CVT and Manual. My heart is leaning manual... but my commute is pushing me to CVT... but like... the manual is better right!?
I'd choose the CVT, I enjoy the smoothness of it compared to MT or other ATs
Me too, what did you go with? I don't even have a commute, I'd probably get to really enjoy a manual but I've only ever driven ATs, sigh.
I can't think of something less compelling than this vehicle.
A pretty nice car overall! My only gripes is the trunk release at 1:54 .. Spiders will hide in there and nip your fingers.
nip nip
That release has been in past integras. Owners of the old integras haven't been complaining about spider bites
@@Blank00 You sound really confident saying that but have you seen the studies on that? I think every old integra owner has gotten a nip or two.
@@TheLastNeville and the door handles found on new BMWs have a similar design: a slot that spiders can hide under.
@@Blank00 May be true but spiders don't like BMW's as much as they like Acura's. In spider languagae BMW means hell in a shop.
this is pretty much all roads in Texas
this would be a very good beater car for the city. Practical, reliable, efficient, fast enough, fun enough, spacious enough; for those that are tired of dailying their 911 or Vantage or Vette or something, this might be the logical commuter second car.
Bro I'm poor, this is straight up luxury for me
Anyone owning a 911 or Vantage is probably going to pick up a 3 Series or a C Class (or more likely an X5 or GLC) before touching a glorified Civic.
Great vid. Yes the noise on this rough pavement comes through but would in any car. I think this is a great car having driven the Honda sport touring hatch a few times with its CVT. What I don’t get is the pricing. I would understand not putting the manual in the base trim to keep from stealing sales from the Si, but that would be in normal times. No way to It steal sales in this market given that Honda cannot meet demand now. And the the top trim with the CVT is a tough price to swallow, compared to the Honda sport touring hatch. But the Integra does look better and the paint choices are more premium. I like this engine and CVT combo at 29-30k but not at 37k. Sure it has more HP than the civic’s tune but not enough to make a huge difference. But I am an Integra fan. Glad that manufacturers are giving us these fairly terrific choices of small sedans in this cuv crazed world.
Modern CVTs are just fine, would I prefer a manual or dual clutch? Yes! but for daily driving there is nothing wrong with a CVT.
The CVT makes the engine sound awful.
What’s the issue with cvt? Ik the main problems with Nissan, had to deal with their faulty trans. But idk the main hate for it. I believed it would be a better trans if a different company made it, but ig not.
@@Chimps010 I have had 2 Nissan's with the CVT and the 2nd one (Maxima) was a great experience overall, but any CVT lacks the nice feeling of a real automatic or dual clutch. With 200hp, you'll still get the rubber band effect and extra noise in the cabin...
@@DMCarReviews ok thank you. I currently own a 21 q50. I feel the slow shift and eveything but idk if it’s a cvt
@@Chimps010 Your car has a 7 speed automatic. It shouldn't shift slow. Have your car checked out.
It’s probably around the same size as a Camry but the main difference is the Camry comes standard with a naturally aspirated 2.5 engine with 205HP and a real automatic transmission. Not to mention you can a V6 Camry which is about the same price of an Integra.
Yeah and the Camry has worse gas milege than the Integra. Less plush ride doesnt handle as well, less features etc etc
@@BkBk-gy6vr 1.5L is very small engine for a premium car. It must be a typo? Also typically premium car do not use CVTs, probably a mistake also
Holy shit that road noise is insane
Would love an acura version of the new HRV with this engine and awd
I love how you pay 20k more then the base model accord for 8 more horsepower, same interior, and better looks. Still love it 😂
Great video!! I'm really interested on buying this one, I also want to try the Hybrid Camry
Just found a dealer that isn't marking up their vehicles (confirmed with the manager and in writing) and any accessories they offer are optional if you reserve one so I can tell them I don't want them (only 1600 total compared to others I've seen the total up to 6-8k) before the car arrives at the dealer. Only con is I have to wait till sometime in August but that's a non issue when I'm getting this for cheaper than the 22 civic touring.
I'm going to be test driving an Acura Intergra A-Spec Tech Package hopefully sometime this week, My first car was an Acura RSX automatic. My last car was an Acura TLX 2016 V6.
I hope you stick with the tlx.
Engine and Handling wise what is a better Car the ILX or the Integra?
Honestly the CVT is the only issue I have with this car. Like at least give it a DCT for the refresh.
CVT is much smoother than DSG, so I'm glad they put a CVT into this car
@@stayphun6188smoother yes but not as reliable when it comes to constant speeding
I LOVE the CVT they put in their Honda cars. Smooth and powerful enough.
holy shit I didn't realize you were flooring it at first LOL
definitely the Civic Si for me. I kinda feel that anything automatic should be a PHEV.
Looking forward to getting this car 🙏🏾❕
Anyone else prefer the dash design of the new civic over the integra’s? The swoop on the integra makes it seem a bit less clean.
It makes it more luxurious. Compare in person. The Acura is more luxurious
It will be interesting to see how Integra vs 2GC will change when the BM2 2GC gets refreshed. BMW has a track record of the refreshed version not being as good as the previous version when it comes to the likes of 2023 vs 2022 X7, 3-Series and 2C.
So basically a shorter accord 1.5t, which by the way, is a fantastic car.
Nice interior, good exterior and the price is not horrible but not great wish it didn't have a cvt
looking between this and the TLX but man this hot hatch is hard to beat I honestly like this interior better than the TLX are you driving around Lake Travis looks like some of the roads near my lakehose!
@TheTopher Can you do Acura Integra POV Drive without talking?
seriously I thought POV would be at least 5 minutes of no talking..
Interesting that pricing for this isn't that far off from the base FWD TLX, which has 272 HP, 280 lb-ft torque, and a 10-speed auto. MSRP (if you can find a "stripper") is $ 38,900. It comes pretty loaded with the "nannies" and other goodies.
Interior looks a bit familiar hmm
Better than GTI interior though
@@Blank00 Facts but a GTI isn't sold by a luxury brand
Will be curious to see the reliability of the CVT in cars like this. They seem to enjoy abuse as it keeps line pressure high.
they're sort of perfect for Honda guys since they love to just bounce off the rev limiter all day. Now they can basically redline their car all the time
i'm sure Honda has considered reliability, they always do.
@@myemailiscool It's not a Jatco so it'll probably be fine lmao
The Civic’s been using CVTs since… what? Model year 2014? I think the record’s been pretty solid on them since I haven’t read much about widespread failures of Honda’s CVTs. They’re not the most engaging transmission, but, hey, they seem to be fairly reliable (so far).
@@theconformist2399first civic with a cvt was an 06 8th gen. Super smooth. They been making cvts for a long time. Never heard anything about them shitting out. Now nissan on the other hand.... oof
The Acura Integra Back Then Use To Be Called The Honda Integra In Some Countries
Love this car
Are you testing this car in the Central Texas region? Those back roads look familiar. They can be rough but fun to drive
Is the Adaptive suspension worth it? Is it a significant change? Does it drastically imprive handling?
Wow...sounds like a lot of road noise 📢
Did you actually watched the video in its entirety?
@@xtralex3010 yes
@@gladdy02 he clearly states the road is not a normal road one would drive on... and things are amplified
Hey amigo, any plans to do a POV review of the ‘22 WRX? Would love to get your thoughts on that vs Integra ASpec Tech 6MT.
Do you think that the Type S would just be a performance upgrade or do you think they would include cooled seats and rear vents with it as well?
If integra will have a hybrid. I'll jump on it in a couple of year
imagine if in 20 years they create new automatic gas pushing cars and cars where you push the gas yourself become like how manual transmissions are today
I absolutely hate fake shifts just as much as I hate fake engine sounds. I’d daily a CVT as long as there’s no CVT attempting to be an automatic.
Love the new integra !
8:13 causally getting air😂😂😂
Wee
Am i dreaming or is acura going to release a new integra type r soon?
doubtful. type S probably but not confirmed. would be the Civic Type R engine likely
While the car does look cool, I think Acura should have done a few things differently. A bigger HD center screen, with a differently styled climate/vent area (too similar to the Civic), different style shifter that looks more modern, along with more upscale trim and different door handles. Should have used the 10-speed automatic and the Accord's 2.0T engine, with the addition of AWD. 250hp-300hp would be a good amount of power to give this car. Would have been a much more sportier and pleasant combination.
I'd be interested to see if they build a type S model in the future which would be similar to what you were describing, although I don't know if the awd would be necessary as the original integras were always fwd traditionally. Would be also interesting to see if maybe they would implement the underpinnings of the Civic Type R, but if I had to guess, the way it currently is is porbably all we're gonna get.
@@nicklake2902 That is true, but the older Integra never used a CVT, and didn't resemble the Civic that closely. Also, in today's market there are way too many competitive cars, so they would have to go the extra mile to sway buyers from something like an Elantra N or GTI. If they gave this car a real transmission, 300+hp and AWD, while keeping it under 3500 lbs, it would be a hot seller, offering excellent performance and handling. That center screen is literally out of the Civic, and something that is 10" would be more appropriate. Like they should have at least upgraded the interior styling.
the Type S will very likely have the 2.0T w/t a 10-speed or 6-speed. Honda won't reinvent the wheel just for the "Integra." It's easier to just use existing powertrains and drop them in. Assuming it has the same 250ish horsepower as the Accord, with fairly little weight gain (going from a turbo 4 to a turbo 4, not the giant penalty that the TLX has going from a turbo 4 to a turbo 6), it should end up being a pretty quick car, probably comparable to the GTI.
My best guess it that they have everything you wrote in mind reserved for yearly updates/refreshes. They’re likely just holding things back on purpose.
@@theconformist2399 It's just they made a Civic clone and bumped up the price 10K. The two should differ.
Hey Topher! Could you make a video about the 2023 Toyota Sequoia?
All I heard was 37k for a 1.5 cvt. Lol.
FACTS 😂
Did you get to check out Pedernales Falls? One of the coolest places in TX
Is it possible to disable the fake gear changes?
suprised a civic comes with almost all tech in a luxury brand.
CVT… I prefer dual clutch from ILX ….
They should’ve put the accords 10 speed auto in here. No excuse to put a CVT in a supposedly enthusiast car
¡Gracias!
You like the changes Acura made to the interior compared to the civic? I own a 22 civic. 90% of that interior is pulled from the civic. The shifter, the door switches, the door pull, the infotainment screen, the 10 inch digital cluster, the round AC knobs, the AC vent toggles etc. I love my civic and I like this integra but the interior is civic with some very minor tweaks. Lol
U have to sit in it. The sears, materials, the leather on passenger side of console
Wouldve been alot better with the 8spd auto from the ILX but i feel the exact same about my '20 civic ex 1.5t
I can't decide between the integra or mustang Ecoboost, ?
This is my current dilemma
Was the rattle something you had in the back, or was it a defect?
I think the Jetta GLI is a better value than the Integra. The 7 speed DSG is going to be better than a CVT, and the engine in the integra just doesn’t compare to the competition. The Mazda 3 I would take over this for sure. And the Toyota Camry really beats the tar out of the integra. Especially the V6 equipped ones. And the Camry has ventilated seats, a personal favorite feature.
totally totally different cars. you're getting a luxury car in the integra, the build quality of the acuras is amazing and way better looking than the camry imo
@@VanquishedAgain so it’s an overpriced civic. My point stands
@@Da__goat Yes and Lexus ES is an overpriced Camry/Avalon. They don't care about 1 sale, they're trying to scale as much as they can.
@@mroaquin ok so then just get a Camry?
@@Da__goat if cooled seats are the ultimate deciding factor, yes.
The shift knob looks like the one in Lexus IS
The simulated shifts at 4:45 actually aren't bad. Hmmm
The mock "close ratios" make it actually pretty good. The "shifting" is actually pretty quick! I've always sort of wondered why the regular drive mode isn't just a regular CVT but then when you throw it into sport mode, it will imitate gears. Seems a little excessive to simulate gearing 24/7.
I disagree
@@AntLive29 Compared to the 1.5T Accord and Civic I've driven, it's worlds better. Still prefer my 10 speed tho :P
the new integra is an amazing car. I think the issue is that Honda/Acura made the new Civic SI so good that its not worth speeding the extra cash for this when they are so similar . Especially a 6 speed manual over the CVT
It is though. Underestimating. Others have to and was surprised!!! You cheating yourself. For a few more thousands you get your monies worth and more. Especially with the prestige and resell alone. The quality
I'm torn between this car and the gr 86! :(
I vote BRZ (GR86), but your money, not mine. What do you want the car to do and what do you want out of the car?
@@K03sport Hey! I really just want it as a daily driver that I can enjoy driving and has good MPG. Both cars seem to offer that in different ways.
I don’t get the hate this car is getting from some people and yes this car is better than the Civic either on manual or CVT configuration, the difference between the 6M/T and the SI and it applies as well to the CVT A-Spec technology against the Civic Touring is roughly $6k, but for that money you are getting a lot more car first the exterior design is a lot nicer, and the interior although similar is way more premium on the Acura, way better sound system(seriously better), more HP in the CVT version since the integra has the engine with 200HP as the 6M/T and the SI, the Civic Touring has 185HP?, also you get adaptive dampers along with a luxury badge(yes that counts isn’t the same driving an Acura than a Civic, let’s face it), one thing I agree completely is Acura should have used the 8 Spd tranny from the ILX rather than the CVT for a civic is fine but Acura should have done better, my take is they wanted to keep the car at a price point and I get that but I do understand the hate on that anything else is unfounded, overall you are getting a much nicer car and I think the price is justified.
What state are you in? Looks nice and rural.
Acura is all about performance tho so if your paying for a more luxury version basically of a civic si then shouldn’t the integra drive better & smoother than the civic ?
I think I'd just go with a Civic Sport Touring hatchback and save some money. Besides, lifting stiff over the Integra's rear hatch sill would not agree with my back. Plus, the rear headroom in the Civic is way more practical. Now, maybe I'd reconsider if the Integra came with more than 200hp and a dual-clutch trans...
Lifting stuff over the Integras hatch is not good for your back but the Civics lower feel crappy bare bones no lumbar support seat is ok for your back?
I was in the same boat choosing between a civic hatchback sport touring and integra a-spec or a-spec tech. Dealer mark-up made the decision much easier since they charge 3k+ above the 31.5k msrp for a civic hb sport touring, which made the price up to 35k, while i can get a a-spec tech cvt at msrp. So the better features easily justified the 2k price difference. Now waiting to get the car. (Civic also needed ~2 weeks to deliver, so that doesn’t matter either)
The Acura is the better buy
this car's interior remind me of the one from the audi a4
The Accord 2.0T has a ten speed automatic why not use that transmission.
It won't fit
You should try the acura ilx