"I feel like a dog begging for scraps every single year." teacher Heather Boyle told VICE News. WATCH More on teacher walkouts across America here:bit.ly/2GpeO5a
actually they got nothing but a promise of an AVG. of $ 6,000. In reality they have got a total of $0.00 to my knowledge, and I am one of those :) Someone didn't do their homework.... But thats what I expect coming from someone who is upset that teachers are asking for more.. research how much OK teachers get paid... they are wanting what they were promised that is all... oh wait you didn't know that they were also promised a raise in the 1990's and also did not receive a single penny. FACTS OVER FICTION!
Teachers aren't poor, otherwise there wouldn't be three million of them plying their trade in America. Nor would American universities be awarding over 450,000 Education degrees every year if word got out that teaching was a "raw deal."
@@oliver.mayes2305 Teachers who work a second job do so because they choose to, not because they have to. No one has more spare time on their hands than a teacher, what with the nine month work year, and never having to work nights, weekends, and holidays. I love teachers, but that's the truth of the matter. And TBH, do you really think that three million highly educated, awesomely talented professionals would have all made the same career mistake?
The people that actually have to pay them might be against it. A lot of parents and students pay next to nothing or its free. It gets taken for granted by everyone including the teachers.
Gubmint employees get something called "step increases." Essentially a small bump to keep pace with the cost of living. Also known as a "COLA." Whenever a politician looks you in the eye and says they'll do more for "working people", they're talking to "gubmint employees" since they themselves are "gubmint employees." And on the state level , who makes up the largest group of "gubmint employees?" Cops 'n teachers. Please understand that these "hard workin' public servants" aren't exactly working for you...you're working for them. Cops, teachers, and politicians. They're all on the same team.
So you want to raise the wages of people that had no pay cut, because they had no pay raise. While quite a number of us not only haven't had a pay raise but have either lost their job, or took pay cuts, while taxes and expenses have increased. Only seems fair to those that either don't pay taxes, or are the recipients of the raises (the teachers). I lost 80% of my income due to Obama's policies, yet now teachers are complaining about not getting a raise. Earn what you own Own what you earn
My husband was offered a great job at a hospital in Oklahoma, his response was HELL NO! People all over the country see Oklahoma as a substandard place to live and raise kids. Your politicians have ruined your state more than you’ll ever know.
zep head ...Right...because that worked so well for Michigan. They went from being one of the best school systems in the country to being one of the very worst all within 10 years. After Betsy Devos came thru like a fcking tornado, wrecking havoc and destroying everything she touched with her voucher systems and privatization now Michigan, once a top school system IS IN THE BOTTOM 10. Michigan was unlucky enough to have Betsy Devos before she bought her seat in trumps administration.
This is pathetic. I'm 21, working in Canada. No post secondary education and relatively new to my field. I'm making more than the teachers in OK with 20+ years experience, even after the CAD to USD exchange rate. And they deal with stubborn assholes like me all day.
Ghastly Grinner maybe that's due to a lack of funding properly teaching these teachers how to further educate and a lack of funding you get what you pay for
Ghastly Grinner give the best doctor you know a patient with poor health. Then ask that doctor to repair all the major organs in this patient’s body without a staff, an equipped operating room, a dull scalpel, and no anesthesia. That doctor is going to have a huge struggle just to keep the patient alive through surgery. Now apply this metaphor to a teacher who has a student enrolling in his overcrowded classroom in the middle of the year. Poverty causes high mobility. Oklahoma kids are in the top five in every poverty category. Imagine that child is hungry. Oklahoma kids are #4 in hunger. Imagine that child is homeless. Oklahoma kids are #4 again. Imagine that child is traumatized, abused, neglected, parent is incarcerated or the child is in foster care. Yes you have guessed it! In all those categories, Oklahoma children are in the top five. Now take that child with your poor teaching resources and try to get him to perform well on a standardized test over curriculum he missed before he transferred to your classroom. It’s a set up don’t you see? The legislators have destroyed schools with their chronic underfunding and say, “public education doesn’t work!” It’s like holding someone’s head under water for 15 minutes, and then saying, “Oh look, their dead!”
Halket Many in the US do not value or care about public education. Education and facts are something to be closely guarded and feared. Those same people also hate any government spending, even the good kinds.
@@yahwehvii6059 60 years too late to witness the "great" America we were told about. The false reality we've all been conned into isn't fair, fortunately our government can change as our parents cohort ages out.
Health care workers and teachers make some of the lowest wages in America compared to athletes and entertainers. Is it me or do we have our priorities mixed up??🤔
@@zephead843 Because a country's first step to evolve is made by education,that's why teachers are a priority.They educate generations and plant their seeds in their minds.And aswell,sports aren't a necessity in the world that we live,but primary education is.
Im from Hungary and Im a teacher with a MSc degree in two subjects teaching these subjects in a foreign language. Im earning 470 USD a month. Renting a room per month costs me 500 USD with bills. Im working after school for hours (second job) to earn enough money to buy food. Im glad Vice is in OK to show these teachers have a voice.
As a student in North Carolina I feel very lucky At my school we have a lot of teachers and i feel very privileged. I really hope they pass it for Oklahoma.
Loved the library meeting. Everything is taken care off in every area. We got a raise! We NEED more. "I won't tell you the walk out had an big effect. It definitely did something."
I can't believe how many anti-teacher trolls are here. If they want to improve schools let them go back to university, get a degree or two then start teaching themselves with no union support. Where are the conservative teachers who think that OK teachers are earning enough?
@@yahwehvii6059 Her name is Ms. Coffman and she's being considered to join Harriet Tubman on the new $20 bill. Harriet Tubman will be depicted with her shotgun by her side, while Ms. Coffman will be depicted with a bullhorn walking through the streets of Chicago wearing a Che Guevara T shiirt.
Because capitalism cares far more about commodities and fortifying the spectacle than yaknow, all the professions that don't directly favor big capital. I'd say most capitalists benefit from a poorly educated working class, so within this system it totally makes sense for them to buy politicians so school money can be funnelled into business subsidies and 1% tax breaks.
GO TEACHERS!!! They absolutely should strike. In OK a union is needed. +$1 tax on cigarettes is nice, but a +$1 tax on a gallon of gas and diesel is needed. They're even more unhealthy and costly to all of us. Make them pay for the damage they do to all of us.
SpiderBurger i know 5 people who moved to washington from Oklahoma. All them said its a shitty place to live and they had to get out of there. 100m for the teachers is good and they are asking too much. I hope with that money they teach about how horrible meth is there. Most kids will try meth before marijuana in OK
For someone whose username is an isaac newton quote you don't seem too bright do you? If you want to relegate a place to an event that occurred there in the distant past then I'll point you to the holocaust. After all you're from germany right? Dipshit. Think before you speak, because the "logic" that you use can also be used against you.
Thomas Sanchez he defiently 'could' do that. But he isn't obligated to. He earned that money. I know it sounds selfish but its how it is. He doesnt owe random people just because they are american. There are bigger issues then teachers in Oklahoma teaching kids who half will have tried meth in highschool.
PantsB4Squares That’s just bullshit: a sensible properly funded education system is vital to a nations wellbeing. The US will continue to sink until this is recognised.
The OK legislature passed 1010 (teacher raises) without fully funding it. The problem is they have to actually raise taxes to do it, and the republicans that control the state legislature are extremely anti-tax. They have already removed some of the funding that was left and plan to cancel all of the tax increases with a vote in November.
Correct me if I'm wrong : the avg median income in ok is $49176 the avg teacher income is $45276 with summer and winter vacations off. Even office workers have to take work home thesedays. According to that the avg teacher gets paid 26.47% more than the median income in ok. With the pay raise, the it increases to 43.5%.
Kirk Thiets the thing is I’m not even from Oklahoma originally, I’m from Pismo Beach, California. Big big change the last 2 years and I never expected for my education to be at such a high stake for this kind of controversy.
And where are you from? You think NY is a better place? or maybe Cali? I think I will take my great state over those shit holes anyday! proud to be an OKIE!
Truckers face similar problems with pay but most truckers don't go home each night to spend time with family. The grass isn't always greener on the other side.
By the way notice comments . Some look like they are coming from fake people . Don't give their hate life, ignore them .they can only comment that's all. ..ignoring somebody comment is not silencing them .its choice to not give that comment life of its own. You don't need to agreed with me at all But neither Do I.
ishtar0077 - How many times you going to repeat your inane theme?🙄 Not everyone who disagrees with your position is "fake". Get that? Now stop trying to silence conversation.
Yes walk out..its the only way. Save our public school please. They need to help them self ..700 billion for the military but not for public school. Other countries are passing us on education. China has better Public Education then we do!!! Public Education matters, save them Please. Action, no more talking its the only way they will Listen and Maybe Trump will see this. Could be good thing or bad thing . A tweet can bring this to the Attention of the country Where is money to make our public school great again? Huh..
The military is a Federal responsibility. Schools are a State responsibility. Schools ate funded primarily with property taxes. Your community votes on the spending bills for your town, county, and State expenditures. Why do you think someone in Iowa should be paying for a school in Oklahoma City? The teachers don't spend any time fighting for a raise. They are unionized. Their well paid Union represenatives are supposed to be doing that.
I was a supporter of Fallin before this, but how she has handled this situation disgust me. Mary Fallin needs to go!!! Our State Government is beyond incompetent. Mary Fallin isn't even a Oklahoman!!! She's from Missouri!!! My mother is a teacher and her class room is so outdated cause the school has no money because Funding for schools was cut by 3 Billion in the last 3 years alone! Mary Fallin has to go!! The Teachers have their right to strike!!!
ooops! What they actually did was give an AVG of 6k! actually most teachers who have been teaching for less than 20 years will get less than 40$ a paycheck. nice
Ugh I’m gonna go out on a limb but is there any teens 14-18 that live in Oklahoma who worry about this stuff? Not just to get out of school? (I live in mustang)
You can definitely cover the entire average curriculum in fewer days. Probably three, or even two, depending on the complexity of the subject. That is not the problem. The problem is that not every student learns at the same pace. Many students will not be able to keep up with that pace and there is no time available for individual help for those students. So the case is fail or fall behind. Worst case scenario, the pass grade is lowered until they do pass. There is also NO extension work for the brighter students. Just get the course covered, is the program. And all this with underpaid and unqualified teachers. A recipe for disaster, even with committed teachers who get "burned out", trying their best to help students along. But that is what the Legislators in these States want, and that is the goal of the voters. Only voters with kids care, and they are in the minority. A recipe for a downward spiral. Not a new thing, though. This degrading of public education has a long history.
I felt sorry for these teachers until several admitted in another video to having voted for the same politicians who denied them a raise, due other issues such as abortion and transgender bathrooms. Republicans love the poorly educated, so you get what you vote for, I suppose.
Teachers alone time ago made a decent living. Now a days, you can graduate from high start at an entry level job or work your way up and make more money than a teacher.
I'm still trying to figure out why it's the state's responsibility to pay teachers more; it seems like individual school districts should be paying their teachers fairly. The state doesn't even need to be involved.
When I was a young man full of hope, and optimism I viewed every American From Maine to California, Texas, to Topeka, Boston to Beverly Hills, American Samoa, Puerto Rico, et al, as my family, brothers, sisters, cousins. I swore an oath to defend them all. Today however; since the "(fanatical right wing)" barged in to town, the "(Republican criminal cartel)", that kinship is shattered. That American dream has become a nightmare of wanton ignorance, hostility, deceit, insult, and conflict. Want to know who's kids are putting graffiti on the walls, stealing your car, knocking up your daughter? Who's selling opioids on the corner , filling up jails, costing $billions per year for prosecutions, incarceration, violence, and tragedy ?????? Look no further than the Republican bomb throwing machine of "anti children" anti government, "anti middle class", "anti science", "anti common sense", anti teacher, anti union, anti citizen, corporate whoring Republican wrecking ball. Look no further than the millions of Children they abandoned, and stabbed in the back, who's teachers can barely pay the rent. "(Betsy De Vos)? " "ARE YOU KIDDING ME?" I am eternally grateful to all the courageous generous teachers of my youth who at least then made a barely reasonable wage compared to the paltry wages of today. They allowed me to survive. Teachers are as important as any missile, or strategic bomber. They are the underpinning of our society, critical infrastructure. That costs real money. Their pay is among the lowest of all industrialized countries. That BS is going to come to a crashing halt very soon, no later than next November.
given that regulations have massively favored the rich minority that buys its influence over politicians and government; i hope these teachers show no mercy and make an example to show America what ought to be our right priorities. training the next generation of thinkers or having to take care of other parent's little problems, while they go off to personally enrich themselves, should not be seen as a sacrifice, but as the truly valuable contribution to society that it is. becoming a great quality teacher must be rewarded and incentivized far more than becoming a corrupt wall street type that favors short sighted corporate gains, which from historical experience sometimes turn out economically disastrous outcomes--although this shift in favoritism will likely never happen. by extension, incentivizing apt individuals entering teaching in the math and sciences, considering the future direction of the economy, ought to be an even higher priority. education is the great equalizer, and promoting the growing gap in education is to promote and further the already pervasive divisiveness, anger and frustration already plaguing the country. promote inequality in education at the risk of dire consequences devoid of any ethical or moral values
How do you think "gubmint employees" get their pay, pensions, fifteen paid holidays, winter, spring, and summer "breaks", health insurance, and all the rest of it? I'll tell you. The rich. And this country needs more rich people, not more "gubmint employees." Liberals want serfdom and Socialism. Liberal ideology taken to its logical conclusion will result in a poorer country and lower paychecks for teachers. Ask the old soviet Union about teacher salaries.
I make a six-digit salary and I only work 25 to 30 hours a week remotely from home. I achieved that by studying hard, getting a technical degree in college, producing quality work product, and branding myself. While 70% of the students at my university majored in Liberal Arts, I took the less traveled path leading to a smaller supply of professionals in my chosen technical career field. Bottom line, you get paid more when there is less supply of people who can do what you do in the labor force. If you get a liberal arts degree and expect a career as a teacher, then expect to be easily replaced by an abundance of other job seekers with the same educational background. And if you think your union will protect your job as a government employee, then you should read up on what Ronald Reagan did to air traffic controllers who went on strike in 1981. Those that did not return to their jobs were all fired and then quickly replaced by scabs, including by air traffic controllers from the U.S. military. The Professional Air Traffic Controllers Organization union was then quickly within weeks after the strike began. Don't rely on your union. Rely on YOURSELF.
Six figures? I thought a professor only makes 75-85k and works at college 40 hours a week. Your story is very comprehensive compared to others I heard about. My goal is to become either a educate myself or become a politician who will serve the people from what's most important.
I know what you mean. Like Baltimore, Philly, Detroit, Chicago, Minneapolis, St.Louis. Third world American cities, the result of liberal Democrats ruling forever. And let's not forget LA, San Fran, Portland and Seattle, where it's apparently legal to take a dump on the sidewalk. And a special shoutout to Seattle, where one can start their own country if they so choose, while the cops are told to stand down since the mayor doesn't want to violate anyone's right to peaceful assembly. BTW, the CCP (CHINESE COMMUNIST PARTY) you know, the folks that are currently attempting to end capitalism in the US...they don't care much for teachers unions. Oh, and the recent decapitation that occurred in the People's Republic of Minneapolis...I was wondering if the young fella was Amish, Mennonite, or perhaps a Swede.
@@zephead843 and Oklahoma , Louisiana and Kentucky are better? They are the result of republican policies. No wonder they have been hemorrhaging their population. Why do you think the economies of these states resemble the third world? How many companies like Google or Microsoft do these companies have?
@@joekrebs964 Cities, not states. The reason many American cities are as they are is because large cities are chock full of under performing minorities. The modern welfare state destroyed the black family, which was doing fairly well before the entitlement industrial complex told black women that they no longer needed a man to support them, except for a "quickie" on the weekend to produce more children, many of whom would become future welfare recipients themselves. As a result, average IQ's in America have peaked and are now falling, as the wealthy elites aren't having as many kids as they used to because children tend to have an adverse effect on their "lifestyles." This, along with an open southern border is the recipe for turning first world nations into third world hellholes.
Lady, if you want good education for your kids, send them to a private school because public education has to take every one in and teachers are overwhelmed by all this diversity. Teachers do the best they can with the limited resources they have and being underpaid on top of it does not help educational outcomes either.
It's about enabling teachers to keep their heads above water. Teachers only get so much funding to purchase classroom supplies before they have to start buying supplies out of pocket and that cuts into their pay. Money spent on supplies that a bunch of little gremlins may or may not trash within a week is not money being spent on necessities of life like food, gas and paid bills. Not to mention that even after the bell rings and school's let out there's still grading and lesson plans to be done (which can take hours to do) and parents to communicate with (again, this can take hours if a teacher has a large class). Teachers don't get paid for that work. A teacher who doesn't have to worry that they might not be able to make ends meet can spend more time and energy on giving kids a good education because they don't have as many other priorities and concerns eating at their mind and sapping their energy.
@@Blueeyes713 America currently has just over three million public schoolteachers on its payroll. One must consider a teachers total compensation package before assuming anything. Things aren't nearly as bad as you think they are.
Oklahoma is not nearly an industralized or population exploding state as most of eastern US and the western coast. It's the midwest. All of these states are still developing, they're practically 2nd world in many regards. Expecting such funding is pure fantasy and a misunderstanding of their states economic and population situation. You can't just tax everyone and everything into the ground, because then no one wants to invest into your state, no growth, and eventually people will just escape your crushing hellhole to greener pastures. I'll say it once: If they don't have the budget, they don't have the budget.
MickDick l Oklahoma used to flourish. We're not "still developing". And it's ridiculous to think that little taxation would create a prosperous nation. What the hell is each citizen having an extra $100 a month going to do to get this state into shape?
People stop. Its just comment. It doesn't affect anything . Just Weird silly comment . No need react to it and give it life. Again remember some this comments are weird/fake. It could be just account set up from troll that doesn't live USA. Its possible now days 2018
Tucker excuse me, what? I’m sorry but dealing with 20-30 kids, and some schools are extremely overcrowded due to barely anymore funding, it’s some times 50-60, now imagine kids, some are angels, some are total brats due to not being at home, and their parents aren’t there, so they think they can get away with everything. Now imagine my school, which is kinda like a fight school, with 2-3 fights a week, and extremely troublesome students. Which last week, a teacher got punched in the face when trying to break up a fight. I’m not even in Tulsa or the Capital. It sucks though, most teachers work 2-3 more jobs to make ends meet. Not to mention the grading they do at home, lesson planning, buying stuff for the classroom, (Sometimes out of their own paycheck,) and making worksheets for the students. Teaching is a hard job to do, and takes a lot of time and patience. While yes they get three months off, I think it’s still fair they get more funding and a better paycheck, after all, they are teaching the future.
I go to a school in oklahoma.A lot of the teachers are money-hungry.The are just like little brats.They got 6,000 but they want more.I feel like they don't care about my education they care about the money
Maybe you guys should quit voting liberals to the education board. Maybe, just maybe, if you got a conservative or two things might change for the better.
137bandit also what did you expect? When people are paid less money for a job that should actually be paid more they won't be happy and so they'll turn to more socialist ideologies just the way the masses roll my guy
If gov't can't afford to fund public schools, than why are people paying taxes to fund public education? Not everyone can afford to pay for private school.
+Alonzo. Charter schools ARE funded by public money. Its just that they take a profit cut on top. Which means they have to cut MORE than public schools. One of the reason some public schools are doing worse is because funds are siphon away to these for profit and minimum education level schools. The type of school that wants the smartest students and deny the harder learning ones not because they want to give a good education, but because its easier to teach the basics to smart students. In turn, that is actually screwing the smart students over because in a well funded public school with leeway to have classes for advanced learning would be able to teach them more... But you enjoy your manipulated reality while setting your future kids on the path of squalor, pleb.
Did you watch the video? The reason the state is broke is because the republicans refuse to tax big oil. They implemented regressive taxation and drained 25% of educational funding.
Vouchers would be a solution but the government and teachers do not like competition. Competition is dangerous for low quality teachers and schools. Its much easy to just make tax payers keep paying you for bad results with no accountability.
Wow, such stupidity. The lovely Republican party in Oklahoma has kept teacher pay down and never helped the kids by properly funding schools. Just people trying to live who don't feel the need to move the the West coast but to change where the state is at.
Dude this isnt korea lmao, teachers go off a set standard of packets and tests given by the school there is no imagination there is no creativity. why should the teachers get paid more for doing nothing
"I feel like a dog begging for scraps every single year." teacher Heather Boyle told VICE News.
WATCH More on teacher walkouts across America here:bit.ly/2GpeO5a
Teachers in OK already got $6,000 now they want another $10,000. Holy greedy rats Batman!
Thats how everyone one feels when you let the government become the parent. Socialism doesn't work.
They are about the kids but walking out on them?
Megatron Don That's not true at all lmao
actually they got nothing but a promise of an AVG. of $ 6,000. In reality they have got a total of $0.00 to my knowledge, and I am one of those :) Someone didn't do their homework.... But thats what I expect coming from someone who is upset that teachers are asking for more.. research how much OK teachers get paid... they are wanting what they were promised that is all... oh wait you didn't know that they were also promised a raise in the 1990's and also did not receive a single penny. FACTS OVER FICTION!
Teachers know they aren’t going to be rich, but they never expected to be poor.
OR have to work 2 more jobs to make ends meet!
Teachers aren't poor, otherwise there wouldn't be three million of them plying their trade in America. Nor would American universities be awarding over 450,000 Education degrees every year if word got out that teaching was a "raw deal."
@@zephead843 have you even researched, most teachers in Oklahoma work two jobs
@@oliver.mayes2305 Teachers who work a second job do so because they choose to, not because they have to. No one has more spare time on their hands than a teacher, what with the nine month work year, and never having to work nights, weekends, and holidays. I love teachers, but that's the truth of the matter. And TBH, do you really think that three million highly educated, awesomely talented professionals would have all made the same career mistake?
10 years with no pay raise? Thats atrocious. I dont see how anyone could be against a pay raise for our teachers
The people that actually have to pay them might be against it. A lot of parents and students pay next to nothing or its free. It gets taken for granted by everyone including the teachers.
Gubmint employees get something called "step increases." Essentially a small bump to keep pace with the cost of living. Also known as a "COLA." Whenever a politician looks you in the eye and says they'll do more for "working people", they're talking to "gubmint employees" since they themselves are "gubmint employees." And on the state level , who makes up the largest group of "gubmint employees?" Cops 'n teachers. Please understand that these "hard workin' public servants" aren't exactly working for you...you're working for them. Cops, teachers, and politicians. They're all on the same team.
So you want to raise the wages of people that had no pay cut, because they had no pay raise. While quite a number of us not only haven't had a pay raise but have either lost their job, or took pay cuts, while taxes and expenses have increased.
Only seems fair to those that either don't pay taxes, or are the recipients of the raises (the teachers).
I lost 80% of my income due to Obama's policies, yet now teachers are complaining about not getting a raise.
Earn what you own
Own what you earn
Oh there are plenty of people who would be opposed.
Who's standing up for
SUBSTITUTE TEACHERS?
Poverty
Most have B.A., M.A. and Teaching Credentials
ASK HOW THEY SURVIVE
Meanwhile sheriff in Alabama bought 700K beach house using tax payer money. Muricaaaa, #MAGA.
Our schools are so broke in Oklahoma that we don't even have school on Fridays to cut spending. When that happened it seemed like such a shock.
You got tricked by Trump. Imo not even education will work for Americans.
My husband was offered a great job at a hospital in Oklahoma, his response was HELL NO! People all over the country see Oklahoma as a substandard place to live and raise kids. Your politicians have ruined your state more than you’ll ever know.
A poor state like OK can only support but so many useless, career bureaucrats. Maybe it's time OK privatized its school system.
zep head ...Right...because that worked so well for Michigan. They went from being one of the best school systems in the country to being one of the very worst all within 10 years. After Betsy Devos came thru like a fcking tornado, wrecking havoc and destroying everything she touched with her voucher systems and privatization now Michigan, once a top school system IS IN THE BOTTOM 10. Michigan was unlucky enough to have Betsy Devos before she bought her seat in trumps administration.
You're too fucking obsessed with religion and made up Jesus. It's easier to teach creationism in the schools if you have stupid kids.
After the teacher pay raise bill was signed, they retracted and cut part of the raise. How pathetic.
Who's standing up for
SUBSTITUTE TEACHERS
Poverty
Most have a B.A., M.A. AND A TEACHERS CREDENTIAL.
This is pathetic. I'm 21, working in Canada. No post secondary education and relatively new to my field. I'm making more than the teachers in OK with 20+ years experience, even after the CAD to USD exchange rate. And they deal with stubborn assholes like me all day.
Where do you work??
Ghastly Grinner maybe that's due to a lack of funding properly teaching these teachers how to further educate and a lack of funding you get what you pay for
Ghastly Grinner give the best doctor you know a patient with poor health. Then ask that doctor to repair all the major organs in this patient’s body without a staff, an equipped operating room, a dull scalpel, and no anesthesia. That doctor is going to have a huge struggle just to keep the patient alive through surgery. Now apply this metaphor to a teacher who has a student enrolling in his overcrowded classroom in the middle of the year. Poverty causes high mobility. Oklahoma kids are in the top five in every poverty category. Imagine that child is hungry. Oklahoma kids are #4 in hunger. Imagine that child is homeless. Oklahoma kids are #4 again. Imagine that child is traumatized, abused, neglected, parent is incarcerated or the child is in foster care. Yes you have guessed it! In all those categories, Oklahoma children are in the top five. Now take that child with your poor teaching resources and try to get him to perform well on a standardized test over curriculum he missed before he transferred to your classroom. It’s a set up don’t you see? The legislators have destroyed schools with their chronic underfunding and say, “public education doesn’t work!” It’s like holding someone’s head under water for 15 minutes, and then saying, “Oh look, their dead!”
Halket Many in the US do not value or care about public education. Education and facts are something to be closely guarded and feared. Those same people also hate any government spending, even the good kinds.
Laura Barto
Now, take those parents that had kids while living in poverty. Wait never mind. Those rich people sure are a selfish bunch!
America dosent seems so great anymore
^^^^ If you're a delusional Trumpist with your head waaaay up your ass, then you'd feel differently.
Imperial America Ouch, you got me there. Alternative facts are foreign to me.
Imperial America Love it. 😂
This is Oklahoma
@@yahwehvii6059 60 years too late to witness the "great" America we were told about. The false reality we've all been conned into isn't fair, fortunately our government can change as our parents cohort ages out.
All the clocks in my school are broken and we can't even afford to buy new ones because we don't have the money. This is pathetic.
Thankfully, even a broken clock is right twice a day. ;)
And no one has an old clock at home they could donate? No, they just want someone else to pay.
while all u got iphones
@@gpecaut1 I think people in Oklahoma have the same problem with text books & I don't think people have text books lying around to donate
Health care workers and teachers make some of the lowest wages in America compared to athletes and entertainers. Is it me or do we have our priorities mixed up??🤔
Read a gov't salary chart sometime. Educate yourself. And why would you compare their salaries to athletes and entertainers?
@@zephead843 Because a country's first step to evolve is made by education,that's why teachers are a priority.They educate generations and plant their seeds in their minds.And aswell,sports aren't a necessity in the world that we live,but primary education is.
And public schools to this day have not improved one bit. We need better teachers we get better teachers they would Merit a better pay
Im from Hungary and Im a teacher with a MSc degree in two subjects teaching these subjects in a foreign language. Im earning 470 USD a month. Renting a room per month costs me 500 USD with bills. Im working after school for hours (second job) to earn enough money to buy food.
Im glad Vice is in OK to show these teachers have a voice.
As a student in North Carolina I feel very lucky At my school we have a lot of teachers and i feel very privileged. I really hope they pass it for Oklahoma.
Loved the library meeting. Everything is taken care off in every area. We got a raise! We NEED more.
"I won't tell you the walk out had an big effect. It definitely did something."
Just left my home state (OK) for Texas to teach...more schools and higher pay just over the border. Support staff needs higher pay too!
A 4 day school week, thats embarrassing!
1st raise in a decade? That is sad and pathetic. Get your shit together America.
Maybe move the budget from the military by 1 percent and it would probably pay for everything.
This is a state budget not a federal budget
i work as an Assistant teacher abroad in an elementary school with no education background and I make more than some of those teachers
I can't believe how many anti-teacher trolls are here. If they want to improve schools let them go back to university, get a degree or two then start teaching themselves with no union support. Where are the conservative teachers who think that OK teachers are earning enough?
Tugs N. McCowan I can't remember her name but there is 1 who is soaking up her 15 minutes of fame as the rebellious teacher or something. She's nuts.
@@yahwehvii6059 Her name is Ms. Coffman and she's being considered to join Harriet Tubman on the new $20 bill. Harriet Tubman will be depicted with her shotgun by her side, while Ms. Coffman will be depicted with a bullhorn walking through the streets of Chicago wearing a Che Guevara T shiirt.
How can teachers make so little but Lil pump can make so much :/
because teachers dont do anything. they read from a textbook
Josh Mullins
Soo... What does lil pump do then???
Bryce Golden he makes songs
Lil pump is backed by a big label he's a product not a employee.
Because capitalism cares far more about commodities and fortifying the spectacle than yaknow, all the professions that don't directly favor big capital. I'd say most capitalists benefit from a poorly educated working class, so within this system it totally makes sense for them to buy politicians so school money can be funnelled into business subsidies and 1% tax breaks.
GO TEACHERS!!! They absolutely should strike. In OK a union is needed. +$1 tax on cigarettes is nice, but a +$1 tax on a gallon of gas and diesel is needed. They're even more unhealthy and costly to all of us. Make them pay for the damage they do to all of us.
What about the damage to the taxpayer?
GoZipper! Umm more damage will come if their children aren't getting a proper education.
You wouldn't survived in a world that didn't have gasoline and oil.
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Kinda like the "proper education" they have been getting in the past? Socialized education is not the answer.
GoZipper! So what's your answer a Charter School? Where teachers get paid even less and close down within a year.
When has real education ever been given in America? They teach what they want you to believe, not the truth!
I dont remember the last time Oklahoma crossed my mind. I was just like "What is Oklahoma?".
SpiderBurger i know 5 people who moved to washington from Oklahoma. All them said its a shitty place to live and they had to get out of there. 100m for the teachers is good and they are asking too much. I hope with that money they teach about how horrible meth is there. Most kids will try meth before marijuana in OK
lmao wtf? I live in oklahoma and have never heard such utter shit come from someone's mouth. Whatever you say dude
Oklahoma is the sad place where the Indians were moved to. Indian Removal. Never heard of that, eh?
I'm from Germany and even we know what you did back then.
For someone whose username is an isaac newton quote you don't seem too bright do you? If you want to relegate a place to an event that occurred there in the distant past then I'll point you to the holocaust. After all you're from germany right? Dipshit.
Think before you speak, because the "logic" that you use can also be used against you.
where's trumps money when you need it.
Ana Carolina uhh thats his money..
Thomas Sanchez he defiently 'could' do that. But he isn't obligated to. He earned that money. I know it sounds selfish but its how it is. He doesnt owe random people just because they are american. There are bigger issues then teachers in Oklahoma teaching kids who half will have tried meth in highschool.
PantsB4Squares That’s just bullshit: a sensible properly funded education system is vital to a nations wellbeing. The US will continue to sink until this is recognised.
In his pocket
This has nothing to do with trump, the federal government sends the states tons of money for education.
And they still don't
STAND UP FOR SUBSTITUTE FOR
guess what!!!
We're starving
The OK legislature passed 1010 (teacher raises) without fully funding it. The problem is they have to actually raise taxes to do it, and the republicans that control the state legislature are extremely anti-tax. They have already removed some of the funding that was left and plan to cancel all of the tax increases with a vote in November.
Correct me if I'm wrong : the avg median income in ok is $49176 the avg teacher income is $45276 with summer and winter vacations off. Even office workers have to take work home thesedays. According to that the avg teacher gets paid 26.47% more than the median income in ok. With the pay raise, the it increases to 43.5%.
I live in Oklahoma😐 I hope we all meet an agreement
Go watch The Mangler by Stephen King. That is basically the US economy today.
Lobos222 Hahaha I’ve seen it, very accurate ;)
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If I had children Oklahoma is the last place on earth I would consider rearing them.
Kirk Thiets the thing is I’m not even from Oklahoma originally, I’m from Pismo Beach, California. Big big change the last 2 years and I never expected for my education to be at such a high stake for this kind of controversy.
And where are you from? You think NY is a better place? or maybe Cali? I think I will take my great state over those shit holes anyday! proud to be an OKIE!
Truckers face similar problems with pay but most truckers don't go home each night to spend time with family. The grass isn't always greener on the other side.
By the way notice comments . Some look like they are coming from fake people . Don't give their hate life, ignore them .they can only comment that's all. ..ignoring somebody comment is not silencing them .its choice to not give that comment life of its own. You don't need to agreed with me at all But neither Do I.
ishtar0077 - How many times you going to repeat your inane theme?🙄
Not everyone who disagrees with your position is "fake". Get that? Now stop trying to silence conversation.
just because im russian and like trump doesnt mean im fake. ur the fake one
Funny how they suddenly decide to get their asses in gear only when their backs are up against the wall...
we all must support teachers and public education, it's the future of our world
Yes walk out..its the only way. Save our public school please. They need to help them self ..700 billion for the military but not for public school. Other countries are passing us on education. China has better Public Education then we do!!! Public Education matters, save them Please. Action, no more talking its the only way they will Listen and Maybe Trump will see this. Could be good thing or bad thing . A tweet can bring this to the Attention of the country
Where is money to make our public school great again? Huh..
Ghastly Grinner
My brother or sister i hope one day wisdom and peace is with you . I see you and i know you. I love you.
The military is a Federal responsibility. Schools are a State responsibility. Schools ate funded primarily with property taxes. Your community votes on the spending bills for your town, county, and State expenditures. Why do you think someone in Iowa should be paying for a school in Oklahoma City? The teachers don't spend any time fighting for a raise. They are unionized. Their well paid Union represenatives are supposed to be doing that.
I was a supporter of Fallin before this, but how she has handled this situation disgust me. Mary Fallin needs to go!!! Our State Government is beyond incompetent. Mary Fallin isn't even a Oklahoman!!! She's from Missouri!!! My mother is a teacher and her class room is so outdated cause the school has no money because Funding for schools was cut by 3 Billion in the last 3 years alone!
Mary Fallin has to go!! The Teachers have their right to strike!!!
adjust lawmaker pay to teacher pay. they both work about the same a year.
Oklahoma politicians make 100 buck per session
that is a pretty white cast of characters
Racist idiot
ooops! What they actually did was give an AVG of 6k! actually most teachers who have been teaching for less than 20 years will get less than 40$ a paycheck. nice
Ugh I’m gonna go out on a limb but is there any teens 14-18 that live in Oklahoma who worry about this stuff? Not just to get out of school? (I live in mustang)
That is terrible. Teachers deserve a yearly raise.
You can definitely cover the entire average curriculum in fewer days. Probably three, or even two, depending on the complexity of the subject. That is not the problem. The problem is that not every student learns at the same pace. Many students will not be able to keep up with that pace and there is no time available for individual help for those students. So the case is fail or fall behind. Worst case scenario, the pass grade is lowered until they do pass. There is also NO extension work for the brighter students. Just get the course covered, is the program.
And all this with underpaid and unqualified teachers. A recipe for disaster, even with committed teachers who get "burned out", trying their best to help students along. But that is what the Legislators in these States want, and that is the goal of the voters. Only voters with kids care, and they are in the minority. A recipe for a downward spiral. Not a new thing, though. This degrading of public education has a long history.
50 grand for a part time job.
This is what happens when Republicans have power
This is sad af
Not all school districts can go on strike. 😡😡😡😡😕💵💵💵💵
If you are about kids stop harming them be sending them to government schools. Let them choose.
Every teacher should make 250k a year
Would it make our students any smarter?
I felt sorry for these teachers until several admitted in another video to having voted for the same politicians who denied them a raise, due other issues such as abortion and transgender bathrooms. Republicans love the poorly educated, so you get what you vote for, I suppose.
This is the reason why Americans need unions.
the major problem is your job depends on the GOVERNMENT. You need to get off the system support.
So govt should leave education? Should kids teach themselves? Are you republican?
Where has David Boren been? Oh thats right.. siding up to politicians and again failing to support public education.
Vote democrat.
A four-day school week? Goddamn!
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Teachers alone time ago made a decent living. Now a days, you can graduate from high start at an entry level job or work your way up and make more money than a teacher.
They need to legalize marijuana... that tax money...
I'm still trying to figure out why it's the state's responsibility to pay teachers more; it seems like individual school districts should be paying their teachers fairly. The state doesn't even need to be involved.
They work for the state. It's that simple.
Yahweh VII public school teachers do not work for the state. They are employed by individual school districts.
Scott M www.cbpp.org/research/some-basic-facts-on-state-and-local-government-workers
Depends on the State. Some States State employees, some, county employee. Still they are NOT Federal employees.
Is it because teachers get 3 months off a year and work 7hrs a day, or do they get paid through the holidays and get paid 8hrs a day?
You‘ve never worked as a teacher, have you...
Teachers are paid year round, and those checks never bounce. Those pension checks never bounce either.
End private schooling and all the public school problems will vanish in the wind like so many farts.
When I was a young man full of hope, and optimism I viewed every American From Maine to California, Texas, to Topeka, Boston to Beverly Hills, American Samoa, Puerto Rico,
et al, as my family, brothers, sisters, cousins. I swore an oath to defend them all. Today however; since the "(fanatical right wing)" barged in to town, the "(Republican criminal cartel)", that kinship is shattered. That American dream has become a nightmare of wanton ignorance, hostility, deceit, insult, and conflict.
Want to know who's kids are putting graffiti on the walls, stealing your car, knocking up your daughter? Who's selling opioids on the corner , filling up jails, costing $billions per year for prosecutions, incarceration, violence, and tragedy ?????? Look no further than the Republican bomb throwing machine of "anti children" anti government, "anti middle class", "anti science", "anti common sense", anti teacher, anti union, anti citizen, corporate whoring Republican wrecking ball. Look no further than the millions of Children they abandoned, and stabbed in the back, who's teachers can barely pay the rent.
"(Betsy De Vos)? " "ARE YOU KIDDING ME?" I am eternally grateful to all the courageous generous teachers of my youth who at least then made a barely reasonable wage compared to the paltry wages of today. They allowed me to survive. Teachers are as important as any missile, or strategic bomber. They are the underpinning of our society, critical infrastructure. That costs real money. Their pay is among the lowest of all industrialized countries. That BS is going to come to a crashing halt very soon, no later than next November.
guess they will pass cigarettes out at recess
I am in college now might uses an iPad
Make more people pay taxes to help pay for this.
People want more funding for stuff like this but less taxes MAKE UP YOUR GODAMN MIND
Oklahoma can't ever execute correctly !
given that regulations have massively favored the rich minority that buys its influence over politicians and government; i hope these teachers show no mercy and make an example to show America what ought to be our right priorities. training the next generation of thinkers or having to take care of other parent's little problems, while they go off to personally enrich themselves, should not be seen as a sacrifice, but as the truly valuable contribution to society that it is. becoming a great quality teacher must be rewarded and incentivized far more than becoming a corrupt wall street type that favors short sighted corporate gains, which from historical experience sometimes turn out economically disastrous outcomes--although this shift in favoritism will likely never happen. by extension, incentivizing apt individuals entering teaching in the math and sciences, considering the future direction of the economy, ought to be an even higher priority. education is the great equalizer, and promoting the growing gap in education is to promote and further the already pervasive divisiveness, anger and frustration already plaguing the country. promote inequality in education at the risk of dire consequences devoid of any ethical or moral values
How do you think "gubmint employees" get their pay, pensions, fifteen paid holidays, winter, spring, and summer "breaks", health insurance, and all the rest of it? I'll tell you. The rich. And this country needs more rich people, not more "gubmint employees." Liberals want serfdom and Socialism. Liberal ideology taken to its logical conclusion will result in a poorer country and lower paychecks for teachers. Ask the old soviet Union about teacher salaries.
End of Esau is the Beginning of Jacob
Racist idiot
>conservative state
I make a six-digit salary and I only work 25 to 30 hours a week remotely from home. I achieved that by studying hard, getting a technical degree in college, producing quality work product, and branding myself. While 70% of the students at my university majored in Liberal Arts, I took the less traveled path leading to a smaller supply of professionals in my chosen technical career field. Bottom line, you get paid more when there is less supply of people who can do what you do in the labor force. If you get a liberal arts degree and expect a career as a teacher, then expect to be easily replaced by an abundance of other job seekers with the same educational background. And if you think your union will protect your job as a government employee, then you should read up on what Ronald Reagan did to air traffic controllers who went on strike in 1981. Those that did not return to their jobs were all fired and then quickly replaced by scabs, including by air traffic controllers from the U.S. military. The Professional Air Traffic Controllers Organization union was then quickly within weeks after the strike began. Don't rely on your union. Rely on YOURSELF.
Six figures? I thought a professor only makes 75-85k and works at college 40 hours a week. Your story is very comprehensive compared to others I heard about. My goal is to become either a educate myself or become a politician who will serve the people from what's most important.
Then it spread to white and got everybody unidived attention Andre 3000
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That's a pretty racist comment, don't you think?
Racist idiot
Oklahoma- the result of Republicans ruling forever
I know what you mean. Like Baltimore, Philly, Detroit, Chicago, Minneapolis, St.Louis. Third world American cities, the result of liberal Democrats ruling forever. And let's not forget LA, San Fran, Portland and Seattle, where it's apparently legal to take a dump on the sidewalk. And a special shoutout to Seattle, where one can start their own country if they so choose, while the cops are told to stand down since the mayor doesn't want to violate anyone's right to peaceful assembly. BTW, the CCP (CHINESE COMMUNIST PARTY) you know, the folks that are currently attempting to end capitalism in the US...they don't care much for teachers unions. Oh, and the recent decapitation that occurred in the People's Republic of Minneapolis...I was wondering if the young fella was Amish, Mennonite, or perhaps a Swede.
@@zephead843 and Oklahoma , Louisiana and Kentucky are better? They are the result of republican policies. No wonder they have been hemorrhaging their population.
Why do you think the economies of these states resemble the third world? How many companies like Google or Microsoft do these companies have?
@@joekrebs964 Cities, not states. The reason many American cities are as they are is because large cities are chock full of under performing minorities. The modern welfare state destroyed the black family, which was doing fairly well before the entitlement industrial complex told black women that they no longer needed a man to support them, except for a "quickie" on the weekend to produce more children, many of whom would become future welfare recipients themselves. As a result, average IQ's in America have peaked and are now falling, as the wealthy elites aren't having as many kids as they used to because children tend to have an adverse effect on their "lifestyles." This, along with an open southern border is the recipe for turning first world nations into third world hellholes.
Lady, if you want good education for your kids, send them to a private school because public education has to take every one in and teachers are overwhelmed by all this diversity. Teachers do the best they can with the limited resources they have and being underpaid on top of it does not help educational outcomes either.
🎩 off to these teachers remember dangerous mind the movie yeah they were probably talking about future that’s how schools look today
Do uses iPads in this school
Good education comes from a teachers knowledge and student’s ability. How are raises about student’s education?
It's about enabling teachers to keep their heads above water. Teachers only get so much funding to purchase classroom supplies before they have to start buying supplies out of pocket and that cuts into their pay. Money spent on supplies that a bunch of little gremlins may or may not trash within a week is not money being spent on necessities of life like food, gas and paid bills.
Not to mention that even after the bell rings and school's let out there's still grading and lesson plans to be done (which can take hours to do) and parents to communicate with (again, this can take hours if a teacher has a large class). Teachers don't get paid for that work.
A teacher who doesn't have to worry that they might not be able to make ends meet can spend more time and energy on giving kids a good education because they don't have as many other priorities and concerns eating at their mind and sapping their energy.
@@Blueeyes713 America currently has just over three million public schoolteachers on its payroll. One must consider a teachers total compensation package before assuming anything. Things aren't nearly as bad as you think they are.
I wish I could just demand a raise working my ass off as an hvac tech, but I would just be told deal with it or quit. This is disgusting.
Oklahoma is not a rich and populous state. Not sure where they want all this money to come from.
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Smash the strike.
lmao
Greedy teachers we will have to privatize education if they keep draining us dry where will the money come from privatize it
Oklahoma is not nearly an industralized or population exploding state as most of eastern US and the western coast. It's the midwest. All of these states are still developing, they're practically 2nd world in many regards.
Expecting such funding is pure fantasy and a misunderstanding of their states economic and population situation.
You can't just tax everyone and everything into the ground, because then no one wants to invest into your state, no growth, and eventually people will just escape your crushing hellhole to greener pastures.
I'll say it once: If they don't have the budget, they don't have the budget.
MickDick l Oklahoma used to flourish. We're not "still developing". And it's ridiculous to think that little taxation would create a prosperous nation. What the hell is each citizen having an extra $100 a month going to do to get this state into shape?
I'm guessing you don't live here or have ever been here.
Teacher in OK already got $6,000 now they want another $10,000. Holy greedy rats Batman!
Not a single brown person in that meeting.
why do you have to bring race into this. let people enjoy things venessa
wtf?
People stop. Its just comment. It doesn't affect anything . Just Weird silly comment . No need react to it and give it life. Again remember some this comments are weird/fake. It could be just account set up from troll that doesn't live USA. Its possible now days 2018
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girl, this is oklahoma...
They have 3 months off and a super easy job what more do they want?
Tucker excuse me, what? I’m sorry but dealing with 20-30 kids, and some schools are extremely overcrowded due to barely anymore funding, it’s some times 50-60, now imagine kids, some are angels, some are total brats due to not being at home, and their parents aren’t there, so they think they can get away with everything. Now imagine my school, which is kinda like a fight school, with 2-3 fights a week, and extremely troublesome students. Which last week, a teacher got punched in the face when trying to break up a fight. I’m not even in Tulsa or the Capital. It sucks though, most teachers work 2-3 more jobs to make ends meet. Not to mention the grading they do at home, lesson planning, buying stuff for the classroom, (Sometimes out of their own paycheck,) and making worksheets for the students. Teaching is a hard job to do, and takes a lot of time and patience. While yes they get three months off, I think it’s still fair they get more funding and a better paycheck, after all, they are teaching the future.
I go to a school in oklahoma.A lot of the teachers are money-hungry.The are just like little brats.They got 6,000 but they want more.I feel like they don't care about my education they care about the money
Maybe you guys should quit voting liberals to the education board. Maybe, just maybe, if you got a conservative or two things might change for the better.
137bandit dumbass,Oklahoma is a republican state
True. But most cities are festering grounds for libtards.
137bandit their local government is run by republicans dude
137bandit also what did you expect? When people are paid less money for a job that should actually be paid more they won't be happy and so they'll turn to more socialist ideologies just the way the masses roll my guy
Teacher’s Unions should be purged.
we should purge the entire schools. students included. students leech from society even more than unionists do!
Belarus-chan just like in Belarus, huh? Bot.
How is it even possible to work for the public sector, the government payroll & have a Union? LMAO
@@IblewuponyourfaceIII thank Carter and LBJ for that.
The government can't continue to fund these schools. Parent's should pay for private schools.
If gov't can't afford to fund public schools, than why are people paying taxes to fund public education? Not everyone can afford to pay for private school.
+Alonzo. Charter schools ARE funded by public money. Its just that they take a profit cut on top. Which means they have to cut MORE than public schools. One of the reason some public schools are doing worse is because funds are siphon away to these for profit and minimum education level schools. The type of school that wants the smartest students and deny the harder learning ones not because they want to give a good education, but because its easier to teach the basics to smart students. In turn, that is actually screwing the smart students over because in a well funded public school with leeway to have classes for advanced learning would be able to teach them more...
But you enjoy your manipulated reality while setting your future kids on the path of squalor, pleb.
oklahoma parents can’t pay for private schools were too poor lol
Did you watch the video? The reason the state is broke is because the republicans refuse to tax big oil. They implemented regressive taxation and drained 25% of educational funding.
Vouchers would be a solution but the government and teachers do not like competition. Competition is dangerous for low quality teachers and schools. Its much easy to just make tax payers keep paying you for bad results with no accountability.
Apparently Oklahoma rates 48th compared to all other states in education, so maybe demanding more money isn't the solution.
exactly. they should have to do much more with far less, it's the only way they will learn and get better. #MAGA
Wow, such stupidity. The lovely Republican party in Oklahoma has kept teacher pay down and never helped the kids by properly funding schools. Just people trying to live who don't feel the need to move the the West coast but to change where the state is at.
You forgot to /s.
Dude this isnt korea lmao, teachers go off a set standard of packets and tests given by the school there is no imagination there is no creativity. why should the teachers get paid more for doing nothing
dtz1586 it's their current budget proportions that are the problem
I am democratic but they are just money hungry
As an Oklahoman can I say I don't care what happens? My kids in private school
joshua garner It doesn't concern you then. But good for you?
Yahweh VII still my tax dollars for which I'm sure I pay more than 75% of oklahomans
joshua garner No, you don't. Besides, I thought you didn't care.
Greedy teachers
Teaching should be automated
every job should be automated...nothing special about this one
robot buster Like how you get your education through TH-cam? Cool
The teachers got more than enough...for Oklahoma. Deadbeat
this place is like a 3rd world country sometimes i dunno man