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Igor, My wife and I watch your videos for almost 10 years now and have purchased your fantastic courses. Thanks for making us much better at chess. Today she leaned over my shoulder while I was watching this video and I thought she was going to ask me a a technical chess question, but instead, she said, "how in the world does Igor seem to look younger every year? What's his secret? LMAO.
Thank you for the video, it was very informative and I’m definitely going to add this to my opening repertoire! To answer the question at the end, no you can’t play Bg5 because black can play Bf8 and trap your queen.
But why ? I think After Bg5 Bf8 White has Bf4 attacking the Black Queen too support by the Rock and the queen, also it free the g5 case for the escape of the white Queen. If Black bishop take the Queen in h6 white take the Queen with bishop in c7 freat the Black Rook in d8 with the bishop, also freat the black bishop in h6 with the rock
@@rayleighsilvers5768 this is true, but black still stops the attack and has the initiative. If you put this position into the engine, it evaluates the position as -0.5 in black’s favour.
Back in 1980, when our chess team went to State, this is the opening I played as white. We ended up winning state. It was the first time in at least 5 years that Yasser Seirawan's high school team didn't win state.
I've come across the Colle when looking at the London System, but also interested in the modern version of the Colle, The Colle-Koltanowski System Something I've never looked at before (until now)
I first learned about the Colle System when I was in high school (early 1970s) from Irving Chernev's little classic, "Logical Chess, Move by Move." I've used it since then with varying success.
@@jeraldmcgowin4162 Chernev was Master strength, but could communicate with beginners and intermediate level folk, and his clarity and love of teaching the game shone through. I am in his debt and always recommend his books. Most of mine are old and in descriptive, but Move by Move was reprinted in algebraic and I snapped it up. Cheers.
First time out . Checkmate on move 17. Exactly as you described. However I lost the next two . As my opponents made that opening impossible. This makes a case for having a repertoire instead of trying only one favourite play. But thank you for this addition to mine.
Hi GM Smirnov, thanks for this. The way I have been thinking about the Colle is as an upgraded London. I think the Fianchetto gives it a little more power and flexibility and addresses some of the drawbacks of the London. Namely that weak b2 square...I do realize it is not often played at the higher levels, I see the London more often. People forget that the purpose of these White systems is to get into a Middlegame without falling into traps, tricks, gambits that Black can do to equalize. I don't mind showing this to the kids, there is nothing that can turn someone off to chess more than getting checkmated quickly. For a kid this could be very discouraging. People disparage these systems, but if you want to castle and not really lose any pieces, they actually work. If a player is flexible with the move order and still paying attention to what Black is doing, these are still very playable. I'm thinking for those under or near 1000 Elo, this is a great option.
Nice video. You didn't mention Black's most logical resource, in my opinion. White's white squared bishop is central to this opening, therefore it makes sense for Black to trade bishops by b6 and Ba6, the black knight stays on b8 to support this. Normally, the bishop on d3 will be on the same diagonal as the rook on f1, so White loses the exchange by avoiding the trade. The absence of the white squared bishop negates the opportunity to play the Greek Gift sacrifice, etc. If White tries to stop the trade with Qe2, then a5 puts the trade back on. White can sometimes play c4 to oppose the bishop trade, but the game is now much more about central tension than White having a free hand on the king side. It is still a solid opening for White, but by playing the above, Black gets less passive positions than in the video.
Whenever I play this (around 1700 level) black uses anti Colle tactics, so it never goes down these pleasant lines for white, and often ends up in more of a queens gambit declined position.
Bg5 works....If Black plays Bf8 trapping White's Queen, simply sac the Queen for the Bishop...then no matter what Black plays, White follows up with BxNf6, followed by Ng5....with winning continuations no matter Black's play.
12:40 After Rd8, Bg5 is still a good move but I think black can defend by playing Be7. Then after Bxf6 Bxf6 Qxh7+ Kf8, white can't play Qh8 due to the bishop on f6 which also attacks the white rook on h4.
► Chapters 00:00 Chess opening to WIN in 8 moves 00:25 Happy New Year 2022! 01:39 Colle System: Do NOT underestimate 03:46 Evil trap humans almost can't see 05:22 Tactical pattern: sacrifice on h7 07:45 Kingside Attack: The rook lift 10:03 Bring your queen to the attack 12:26 Can you find the best move?
Bf8 traps Queen but after Q×f8 followed by B×N white has still strong attacking advantage for threatening R×h7 by placing N on e5, g4 or Ng5 &g4 so Bg5 is playable.
White 25. Bf5 to get rid of the Knight on f6 which protects g7 for the queen is ok. If Black 25.-,Nh5 to break connection between Black Q and R. Then 26.Bxd8, Qxd8 and 27. Ng5 with threat Qh7#. Only chance to avoid that Black moves Qxg5 then white Qxg5 - Black has lost its Queen / regards Joachim + A healthy and happy new year. Dear GM Igor Smirnov: How can we get information about the right solution?
Play colle a lot. Have most problems when black plays c4 and attacks my c3 bishop. Can move my bishop but hard to get rid of c4 pawn. C4 is blacks best move with his pawn on d5. Any suggestions? Thanks.
When it comes to White 1 d4 systems, I prefer the London (2 Nf3, 3 Bf4). [Bc1] is better outside the pawn-wall than inside it. Then when it comes to games with White after 1 d4, I prefer 2 c4 anyway. Better control of the centre. And when it comes to games with White, I prefer 1 e4. Best by test.
I love this opening, and use it ll the time now with increased success. I greatly appreciate you sharing it. As I advance (850-950) I find opponents increasingly have some serious disruptors to prevent me creating the initial position - eg: a. ...2(or ...3, or4) B-F5 blocking my intended bishops development to D3. b. …2(or later) P-E5 attacking my positional pawn on on D4. If I ignore it, he forwards it to e4 blocking my pawn advance and forking my bishop and night!! c. And Occasionally ….P-C5 d. The position rarely occurs when his knight and bishop are in the position, you decribe, to be forked by my P-E5 e. Also, I occasionally try this opening when I am black, and am feeling my way to occasional success with it. Do you recommend this? f. I wonder, with this and maybe other aspects, if there is enough here to create a follow up video on this excellent opening. If not, any comments from you, on these aspects, would be welcome. Thanks again for this (and others) excellent video(s). Schaun.
Finally hit 1100 in rapid! Thank you Igor, you’ve helped me tremendously! I feel like I’ve been stuck in a rut for years and you’ve helped me think differently about my game. I appreciate your lessons & methods so much
I've now have played several games using your queen pawn opening and it has been working great!!Thanks for making another great video you are a great teacher!!
Odd that you didnt call the Bxh7+ its most common name - The Greek Gift Sacrifice. I used to worry about it and had to be aware of potential threats against g7 as well. Since I started playing exclusively KID, KIA, Pirc, Gruenfeld systems, I don't have those kind of worries. I play every day almost and from a KID or Pirc perspective, Colle is a hard setup to crack.
Lol I watched the video and won in a 10 minute rapid game on Lichess. Literally the first time I played this opening. Instead of e6 he played the more natural move (I think) Bg4. I still attacked the centre, but computer thought e4 should be played before Re1. Very interesting
Just like the White Stonewall, when those times do occur it is a moment to savor like not many other you could ever experience. Especially while playing a much superior player. Against a player you wouldn't have had a snowball's chance of beating without the system. Ain't nothing like that feeling !
It looks almost like a London, and the attack pattern I think is called the Greek sacrifice (from 5:22). On the Question I'd say yes, because you are at most two moves from a forcing mate sequence depending on what black does, and any real threat from black is more moves away. Maybe my calculations are off but that's how it seems to me.
Yes bishop can go to Bg5, all whites pieces are covered, if black Bh2 check, N can cover, or R can come down, lf queen takes Rook, N or Q can come down and take. Leaving black with no high powered pieces. Take longer to win, but it will happen . Just want to mention, b3 should be played in order to protect the bishop from getting pushed away. ( blacks c4 push)
Sir after bishop d3 if opponent plays pawn C4 supported by pawn D4 which is the best way to counter this , im a beginner and while playing London system ,so many time faced this move
Yeah, after 15. ....... Rd8, white cannot play 16. Bg5 because white will then lose the queen after black plays Bf8. So it looks like white has to retreat the queen or Rh3 to make moving room for the queen.
I'm a terrible chess player, been playing this and went from 743 to 880 this week, I still don't really pull off any of these slick moves but it seems solid, I don't really like it as black either but it's better than what I usually do apparently haha
Black should move bishop to h2, sacrificing the bishop to capture the pawn.. Reason 1: white can either recapture with the rook or slide the king back Reason 2: a skilled enough player can afford to capture white’s rook with a queen sacrifice, which is delaying white from getting black’s h7 pawn because white will have to take blacks queen to prevent threats from the piece, such as winning the rook on a1 Reason 3: once the rook is captured, black can move the g6 knight to f4 and attack white’s queen before the checkmate can be set in motion
Ok...You can't just continue to develop this system "whatever black does" when black decides to completely depart from the standard development shown in the video. :D Apparently, my opponent has his own mind when it comes to playing against this opening, and now I'm in trouble. ;) 1. d4 d5 2. Nf3 Nc6 3. e3 Nf6 4. c3 Bg4 5. Bd3 Bxf3 Can you maybe address some strategies for making the system work when black decides to develop the white bishop early?
Igor, Without using a pc program I have analysed the position at the end of your video where you say "Can white still play Bg5 after blacks move Rd8?" I think no. After Bg5 Black can play Bf8 and the Queen is trapped. Now if White continues the attack with BxN, Black plays BxQ followed by white's RxB. We see here after a long look at the board, should black play Qf4 attacking rook and Bishop and stopping Ng5 and so now forces white to play Bg5 sending the queen back to c7, or should black play Rd5 threatening RxN on g5? ruining all of whites threats. But what if White defends the Knight with h4? After RxN pxN and there is now a possibility white could double the rooks on the h file and mate black on h8.!! or chase it to d7 with multiple threats of winning material and the game on blacks Queenside. Black could send the Queen to f4 after white takes the rook with h4 pawn and the queen tries to to get to e2 square threatening the Bishop on d3, but white stops that with R(a)- e1 and after Qd2 White just plays Re3 protecting the Bishop and ready to connect rooks on h3. Black must play e5 so the Bishop can stop whites Rh3. white cannot connect rooks on h3 and white takes the e pawn.. What does black do? maybe Be6? but either way Bishop is saving the mate after Rxh7 Kxh7 and Rook to h3 ch and then h8 mate. Black now can develop the Rook to c8 but is this enough? I think so, yes. Because before white can formulate a plan of Rh5 and h4 to block the Bishop from the h3 square, Black is threatening Rc1ch and a mate. So all in all I think White would have to play g3 so if Rc1ch , Kh2 Qxb2 and white is safe yes, but is in danger of the connected black pawns coming down the board.
This is a really cool opening! Might try incorporating that into my opening repertoire soon. One thing I'm wondering, as someone who typically plays the London System, is what advantage (if any) there is in leaving the dark-square bishop stuck behind its pawns on c1. Would the winning strategies in this video be possible if white were to play Bf4 in the opening, or does it depend specifically on this opening?
To me, what changes the most in the Colle System is that your dark-squared bishop is not locked outside of the pawn chain, like in the London System. That may be a good thing, but you lose a tempo (so the e4 break is not such as possible in the London like in the Colle), sometimes the f4 bishop can be traded or attacked, and there is ideas like Qb6 for black that may lead to some complications in the London, because it attacks the weak pawn on b2 (which is not defended by your bishop that is now outside of the pawn chain). So the strategies in the London System will usually differ from the Colle. Hope that helped
FYI, there is a book on a hybrid London/Colle system: First Steps: The Colle and London Systems Kindle Edition by Cyrus Lakdawala He prefers the London when black plays g6 lines, and Colle when e6, b6, or d5 lines are played.
It is the Colle, named after Edgard Colle, a strong player from the 1920s. They are very different systems. The white Q bishop is developed despite never moving, as e3-e4 is always coming. You can combine the Colle or Colle-Zukertort with the London and the Torre to respond to just about anything Black plays.
What is the best way to avoid this trap with this opening? 1.d4 d5 2.Nf3 Nc6 3.e3 Bg4 4.e3 Bxf3 5.Qxf3 Qd6 6.Bd3 O-O-O 7.Nd2 e5 8.dxe5 Nxe5 9.Qd1 Nxd3+ 10.Ke2 Qa6 11.b3 Nxd1
I really like the zukertort opening but what if black fianchetto his dark squared bishop in 3rd or 4th moves after we play e3? Since we block our dark squared bishop with the pawn, i generally have a problem in that kind of situation. And also our valuable light's squared bishop's diagonal is closed in that way. What should be our response?
Yeah. My initial impression was that the London was an improvement, since with the Colle you might have delays getting your dark square bishop out. On the other hand, the same bishop is no longer available to defend the queenside, so I guess it's a wash.
I posted the same comment here as well as a few replies to comments, all on the similarities with the stonewall. One great advantage on these opening "systems" is that when you play them constantly you begin to recognize bad or wasted moves by Black. Also, that Black is often the one scrambling and not us. Lol
Playing the Colle against a King's Indian setup is very solid. As a King's Indian player, I can tell you that it can be very annoying to have studied all this fancy theory and then have the White player just make solid moves. It throws you on your own resources. You will just get a chess game where the better player will win.
This is a good example why I hate "youtube chess teachers". In the real world, under 2000 ELO, 99% of people plays c4 with black. But here there is not a single mention to it.
C4 is advantageous for white as he explains in another video on the system. Does it accomplish anything? No. Bishop still controls diagonal if you pull back to C2. Impossible to cover every variation in a single video unless you want an hour long+ masterclass. Just drop the bishop back and then proceed to break the center. Now black has an isolated pawn and wasted a move.
When you prepare your repertoire, always consider moves derived on the basis of human logic, not all the time engine suggested moves only. Here in this video 8...b6 is the wrong continuation and on the basis of which the whole video stands. Engine suggests 8...e5 is the best reply for black and the position is drawish. But in practice, Black players of even 1800+ ratings having no early knowledge on this opening in almost all occasion should continue with moves like ...b6 or ...Bd7 and these type of moves should be there in your repertoire. Thanks Igor for your video.
So it's like the Slav, I've always wondered why openings that look the same have different names depending on color, except the kings Indian, like the Sicilian and the English
I've seen "Sicilian Attack" mentioned as an alternative name for the English actually. There's also the Stonewall Attack, which is the Stonewall variation of the Dutch with colours reversed. So maybe the Colle should be called the "Slav Attack".
Unfortunately when I play this system, black never plays these pasive moves and I struggle!! I find the same with all these type of instructional videos from all the chess content creators. I am a beginer so I guess I just need to preserve!
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Igor, My wife and I watch your videos for almost 10 years now and have purchased your fantastic courses. Thanks for making us much better at chess. Today she leaned over my shoulder while I was watching this video and I thought she was going to ask me a a technical chess question, but instead, she said, "how in the world does Igor seem to look younger every year? What's his secret? LMAO.
Man's got a great chess life and blessed with a great chess wife, damn winning life itself
Thank you for the video, it was very informative and I’m definitely going to add this to my opening repertoire! To answer the question at the end, no you can’t play Bg5 because black can play Bf8 and trap your queen.
But why ? I think After Bg5 Bf8
White has Bf4 attacking the Black Queen too support by the Rock and the queen, also it free the g5 case for the escape of the white Queen.
If Black bishop take the Queen in h6 white take the Queen with bishop in c7 freat the Black Rook in d8 with the bishop, also freat the black bishop in h6 with the rock
@@rayleighsilvers5768 this is true, but black still stops the attack and has the initiative. If you put this position into the engine, it evaluates the position as -0.5 in black’s favour.
No, Rook can easily take bishop, supported by queen.
Back in 1980, when our chess team went to State, this is the opening I played as white. We ended up winning state. It was the first time in at least 5 years that Yasser Seirawan's high school team didn't win state.
Ahh, you're from my state :) I played there in 76 and 77. We finished 6th in 77, even with a loss to Seirawan's team. Garfield, wasn't it?
@@michaeltanner4404 Yes, it was Garfield. I went to Edmonds
I've come across the Colle when looking at the London System, but also interested in the modern version of the Colle, The Colle-Koltanowski System
Something I've never looked at before (until now)
Missed a chance to call it the Colltanowski.
I first learned about the Colle System when I was in high school (early 1970s) from Irving Chernev's little classic, "Logical Chess, Move by Move." I've used it since then with varying success.
That's still one of my favorite chess books.
@@alancoe1002 Yes, I remember I learned a lot from it; it really advanced my understanding of the game.
@@alancoe1002 i used the same book, and have been a happy chess player ever after.
@@jeraldmcgowin4162 Chernev was Master strength, but could communicate with beginners and intermediate level folk, and his clarity and love of teaching the game shone through. I am in his debt and always recommend his books. Most of mine are old and in descriptive, but Move by Move was reprinted in algebraic and I snapped it up. Cheers.
@@alancoe1002 outstanding comment
First time out . Checkmate on move 17. Exactly as you described. However I lost the next two . As my opponents made that opening impossible. This makes a case for having a repertoire instead of trying only one favourite play. But thank you for this addition to mine.
Hi GM Smirnov, thanks for this. The way I have been thinking about the Colle is as an upgraded London. I think the Fianchetto gives it a little more power and flexibility and addresses some of the drawbacks of the London. Namely that weak b2 square...I do realize it is not often played at the higher levels, I see the London more often. People forget that the purpose of these White systems is to get into a Middlegame without falling into traps, tricks, gambits that Black can do to equalize. I don't mind showing this to the kids, there is nothing that can turn someone off to chess more than getting checkmated quickly. For a kid this could be very discouraging. People disparage these systems, but if you want to castle and not really lose any pieces, they actually work. If a player is flexible with the move order and still paying attention to what Black is doing, these are still very playable. I'm thinking for those under or near 1000 Elo, this is a great option.
Nice video.
You didn't mention Black's most logical resource, in my opinion. White's white squared bishop is central to this opening, therefore it makes sense for Black to trade bishops by b6 and Ba6, the black knight stays on b8 to support this. Normally, the bishop on d3 will be on the same diagonal as the rook on f1, so White loses the exchange by avoiding the trade. The absence of the white squared bishop negates the opportunity to play the Greek Gift sacrifice, etc. If White tries to stop the trade with Qe2, then a5 puts the trade back on. White can sometimes play c4 to oppose the bishop trade, but the game is now much more about central tension than White having a free hand on the king side.
It is still a solid opening for White, but by playing the above, Black gets less passive positions than in the video.
Whenever I play this (around 1700 level) black uses anti Colle tactics, so it never goes down these pleasant lines for white, and often ends up in more of a queens gambit declined position.
Bg5 works....If Black plays Bf8 trapping White's Queen, simply sac the Queen for the Bishop...then no matter what Black plays, White follows up with BxNf6, followed by Ng5....with winning continuations no matter Black's play.
BxN what about h5??
12:40 after Bg5, black plays Bf8! and traps white's queen
You can play B-g5 but black has bf8 threatening the Queen.
Moving the rook saved the immenent mate.
12:40 After Rd8, Bg5 is still a good move but I think black can defend by playing Be7. Then after Bxf6 Bxf6 Qxh7+ Kf8, white can't play Qh8 due to the bishop on f6 which also attacks the white rook on h4.
After Bg5 Black will gain initiative with ...Bf8. White will be defending at that point and face several consecutive threats on the queen.
Lol Bf8 is the threat by playing Rd8
► Chapters
00:00 Chess opening to WIN in 8 moves
00:25 Happy New Year 2022!
01:39 Colle System: Do NOT underestimate
03:46 Evil trap humans almost can't see
05:22 Tactical pattern: sacrifice on h7
07:45 Kingside Attack: The rook lift
10:03 Bring your queen to the attack
12:26 Can you find the best move?
I think bishop g5 is not a good idea, because it will trap your queen...
I think if you play bg5 your queen get tranped,so it is a blunder
Bf8 traps Queen but after Q×f8
followed by B×N white has still strong attacking advantage for threatening R×h7 by placing N on e5, g4 or Ng5 &g4 so Bg5 is playable.
I was thinking Bd6 to Bxh2 but this is a stronger counter attack
White 25. Bf5 to get rid of the Knight on f6 which protects g7 for the queen is ok. If Black 25.-,Nh5 to break connection between Black Q and R. Then 26.Bxd8, Qxd8 and 27. Ng5 with threat Qh7#. Only chance to avoid that Black moves Qxg5 then white Qxg5 - Black has lost its Queen / regards Joachim + A healthy and happy new year.
Dear GM Igor Smirnov: How can we get information about the right solution?
what's the continuation if (@ 13:15) after white plays qd2, black simply pushes his h-pawn forward to h5? Q to g4+ ?? Then take the knight?
Play colle a lot. Have most problems when black plays c4 and attacks my c3 bishop. Can move my bishop but hard to get rid of c4 pawn. C4 is blacks best move with his pawn on d5. Any suggestions? Thanks.
You don't "get rid of the black c-pawn". You play for e3-e4 and attack the K-side.
What if black plays pawn c4 within 3 to 7 moves, displacing the white bishop what would the prognosis look like?
If ever black plays C5 you have to play c3 so you can tuck your bishop into c2
What if black develops his light square bishop to g4 before playing e6 .. thanks 🌹🌹🌹 . Happy new year ..
Thats london system
Convert to queen's gambit. And Qb3 to target weak b7..
I think position given at 12:57, Be7 is a good move. How it can be able to countered by white?
When it comes to White 1 d4 systems, I prefer the London (2 Nf3, 3 Bf4). [Bc1] is better outside the pawn-wall than inside it. Then when it comes to games with White after 1 d4, I prefer 2 c4 anyway. Better control of the centre. And when it comes to games with White, I prefer 1 e4. Best by test.
I love this opening, and use it ll the time now with increased success. I greatly appreciate you sharing it.
As I advance (850-950) I find opponents increasingly have some serious disruptors to prevent me creating the initial position - eg:
a. ...2(or ...3, or4) B-F5 blocking my intended bishops development to D3.
b. …2(or later) P-E5 attacking my positional pawn on on D4. If I ignore it, he forwards it to e4 blocking my pawn advance and forking my bishop and night!!
c. And Occasionally ….P-C5
d. The position rarely occurs when his knight and bishop are in the position, you decribe, to be forked by my P-E5
e. Also, I occasionally try this opening when I am black, and am feeling my way to occasional success with it. Do you recommend this?
f. I wonder, with this and maybe other aspects, if there is enough here to create a follow up video on this excellent opening. If not, any comments from you, on these aspects, would be welcome.
Thanks again for this (and others) excellent video(s).
Schaun.
Finally hit 1100 in rapid! Thank you Igor, you’ve helped me tremendously! I feel like I’ve been stuck in a rut for years and you’ve helped me think differently about my game. I appreciate your lessons & methods so much
Fantastic! Great to hear.
I've now have played several games using your queen pawn opening and it has been working great!!Thanks for making another great video you are a great teacher!!
Glad you enjoy it!
Odd that you didnt call the Bxh7+ its most common name - The Greek Gift Sacrifice. I used to worry about it and had to be aware of potential threats against g7 as well. Since I started playing exclusively KID, KIA, Pirc, Gruenfeld systems, I don't have those kind of worries. I play every day almost and from a KID or Pirc perspective, Colle is a hard setup to crack.
Lol I watched the video and won in a 10 minute rapid game on Lichess. Literally the first time I played this opening. Instead of e6 he played the more natural move (I think) Bg4. I still attacked the centre, but computer thought e4 should be played before Re1. Very interesting
Actually, Colle System can be stopped by the following move order:
1) d4 Nf6 2.Nf3 d5 3.e3 Bf5 (preventing white Bd3 which is very annoying)
“Let’s say they play all the moves needed to make this set up work”
Just like the White Stonewall, when those times do occur it is a moment to savor like not many other you could ever experience. Especially while playing a much superior player. Against a player you wouldn't have had a snowball's chance of beating without the system. Ain't nothing like that feeling !
@@lawrenceehrbar8667 agreed. When the opponent plays into the trap, and I actually remember the line… it is priceless!
@@lawrenceehrbar8667 in stead of bishop to d6, what if black pushes to c4, threatening your bishop?
Can you use this system if your the black pieces also?
It looks almost like a London, and the attack pattern I think is called the Greek sacrifice (from 5:22).
On the Question I'd say yes, because you are at most two moves from a forcing mate sequence depending on what black does, and any real threat from black is more moves away. Maybe my calculations are off but that's how it seems to me.
... Bf8 traps the white queen.
@@ronfrancis6012 Damn. Yes. You are correct. Completely missed that.
@@namedperson1436 I only knew because I saw someone else post the answer. ;)
EXCELLENT video! clearly explains very limited number of simple ideas.
Yes bishop can go to Bg5, all whites pieces are covered, if black Bh2 check, N can cover, or R can come down, lf queen takes Rook, N or Q can come down and take. Leaving black with no high powered pieces. Take longer to win, but it will happen . Just want to mention, b3 should be played in order to protect the bishop from getting pushed away. ( blacks c4 push)
No, Bg5 allows Black to play Bf8, trapping the White Queen.
Thanks for the central pawn push tactics in queens pawn. It works for me
Clear instructions. Many thanks Igor.
Very instructive and useful. Thank you
Glad you enjoyed it!
Sir after bishop d3 if opponent plays pawn C4 supported by pawn D4 which is the best way to counter this , im a beginner and while playing London system ,so many time faced this move
Me too
Me too!!!
Yeah, after 15. ....... Rd8, white cannot play 16. Bg5 because white will then lose the queen after black plays Bf8. So it looks like white has to retreat the queen or Rh3 to make moving room for the queen.
I'm a terrible chess player, been playing this and went from 743 to 880 this week, I still don't really pull off any of these slick moves but it seems solid, I don't really like it as black either but it's better than what I usually do apparently haha
Happy New Year to all of us!
More best chess games/career to come
Bf8
Black should move bishop to h2, sacrificing the bishop to capture the pawn..
Reason 1: white can either recapture with the rook or slide the king back
Reason 2: a skilled enough player can afford to capture white’s rook with a queen sacrifice, which is delaying white from getting black’s h7 pawn because white will have to take blacks queen to prevent threats from the piece, such as winning the rook on a1
Reason 3: once the rook is captured, black can move the g6 knight to f4 and attack white’s queen before the checkmate can be set in motion
Thank you. This has really opened up my game and provided a new insight on how gambits can really open up space. Many thanks
thank you for teaching in my learning style! Best youtube chess education right here in my view
Happy to hear that!
Ok...You can't just continue to develop this system "whatever black does" when black decides to completely depart from the standard development shown in the video. :D Apparently, my opponent has his own mind when it comes to playing against this opening, and now I'm in trouble. ;)
1. d4 d5
2. Nf3 Nc6
3. e3 Nf6
4. c3 Bg4
5. Bd3 Bxf3
Can you maybe address some strategies for making the system work when black decides to develop the white bishop early?
Looking forward to trying this out for a bit of fun to get away from my usual repertoire. Thank you and happy new year!
Happy new year!
THANK YOU for teaching me!
Igor, Without using a pc program I have analysed the position at the end of your video where you say "Can white still play Bg5 after blacks move Rd8?" I think no. After Bg5 Black can play Bf8 and the Queen is trapped. Now if White continues the attack with BxN, Black plays BxQ followed by white's RxB. We see here after a long look at the board, should black play Qf4 attacking rook and Bishop and stopping Ng5 and so now forces white to play Bg5 sending the queen back to c7, or should black play Rd5 threatening RxN on g5? ruining all of whites threats. But what if White defends the Knight with h4? After RxN pxN and there is now a possibility white could double the rooks on the h file and mate black on h8.!! or chase it to d7 with multiple threats of winning material and the game on blacks Queenside. Black could send the Queen to f4 after white takes the rook with h4 pawn and the queen tries to to get to e2 square threatening the Bishop on d3, but white stops that with R(a)- e1 and after Qd2 White just plays Re3 protecting the Bishop and ready to connect rooks on h3. Black must play e5 so the Bishop can stop whites Rh3. white cannot connect rooks on h3 and white takes the e pawn.. What does black do? maybe Be6? but either way Bishop is saving the mate after Rxh7 Kxh7 and Rook to h3 ch and then h8 mate. Black now can develop the Rook to c8 but is this enough? I think so, yes. Because before white can formulate a plan of Rh5 and h4 to block the Bishop from the h3 square, Black is threatening Rc1ch and a mate. So all in all I think White would have to play g3 so if Rc1ch , Kh2 Qxb2 and white is safe yes, but is in danger of the connected black pawns coming down the board.
A-1 video! very good explanation, better than anybody else, your'e a good orator - thanks Grand Master !!
This is a really cool opening! Might try incorporating that into my opening repertoire soon. One thing I'm wondering, as someone who typically plays the London System, is what advantage (if any) there is in leaving the dark-square bishop stuck behind its pawns on c1. Would the winning strategies in this video be possible if white were to play Bf4 in the opening, or does it depend specifically on this opening?
It's basically only time, so faster kingside development and also you will have the meran-semislav plan of playing dxc5 followed by b4 ,Bb2, a3 and c4
To me, what changes the most in the Colle System is that your dark-squared bishop is not locked outside of the pawn chain, like in the London System. That may be a good thing, but you lose a tempo (so the e4 break is not such as possible in the London like in the Colle), sometimes the f4 bishop can be traded or attacked, and there is ideas like Qb6 for black that may lead to some complications in the London, because it attacks the weak pawn on b2 (which is not defended by your bishop that is now outside of the pawn chain). So the strategies in the London System will usually differ from the Colle. Hope that helped
@@delusive That did help a lot, actually. Thank you!
FYI, there is a book on a hybrid London/Colle system:
First Steps: The Colle and London Systems Kindle Edition
by Cyrus Lakdawala
He prefers the London when black plays g6 lines, and Colle when e6, b6, or d5 lines are played.
why doesnt the pawn on c4 attack the bishop on d3?
Then he just moves it to c2
At 5:08 after NxF6, what would happen if black took with the pawn instead of the queen?
It missed pawn c6 for black early in the opening. i don't see why that doesn't completely ruin everything for white
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So it's the London system, but your dark-square bishop doesn't come out (and remains trapped)
It is the Colle, named after Edgard Colle, a strong player from the 1920s. They are very different systems. The white Q bishop is developed despite never moving, as e3-e4 is always coming.
You can combine the Colle or Colle-Zukertort with the London and the Torre to respond to just about anything Black plays.
This is really great. Love your videos. What happens if your opponent is using Fianchetto defense?
What is the best way to avoid this trap with this opening?
1.d4 d5
2.Nf3 Nc6
3.e3 Bg4
4.e3 Bxf3
5.Qxf3 Qd6
6.Bd3 O-O-O
7.Nd2 e5
8.dxe5 Nxe5
9.Qd1 Nxd3+
10.Ke2 Qa6
11.b3 Nxd1
From Thumbnail, I thought it was London😂
And even if black pushes the c5 pawn to c4 attacking the white bishop, the bishop backs up to c2 and the same position is maintained.
Hmm!? Nice...good presentation...your voice fits the product...Thanks from a long playing Chess person...never to old to get New flavours.
Glad you enjoyed it!
Not very often see black play early e6 blocking the white bishop in in lower levels.
I really like the zukertort opening but what if black fianchetto his dark squared bishop in 3rd or 4th moves after we play e3? Since we block our dark squared bishop with the pawn, i generally have a problem in that kind of situation. And also our valuable light's squared bishop's diagonal is closed in that way. What should be our response?
What if 1.d4 d5 2.Nf3 Bf5, what is the continuation?
e3
This is just like the London System, except that in the London System, the move Bf4 usually comes after the opening move d4.
Yeah. My initial impression was that the London was an improvement, since with the Colle you might have delays getting your dark square bishop out. On the other hand, the same bishop is no longer available to defend the queenside, so I guess it's a wash.
Thank you.
Happy New Year :)
Happy new year!
A london system with undeveloped dark square bishop.
thanks for this video, although it looks very similar to the stone wall opening.
I posted the same comment here as well as a few replies to comments, all on the similarities with the stonewall. One great advantage on these opening "systems" is that when you play them constantly you begin to recognize bad or wasted moves by Black. Also, that Black is often the one scrambling and not us. Lol
london with sad queen's bishop doesn't exist it cannot hurt you
london with sad queen's bishop :
Amazing system! What defense can Black offer?
Happy New Year! Pallister says 8. Re1 - e5! is the refutation of this line. What do you think?
I just went into this stuff. Great video, thanks.
In the discussion of the h7 sacrifice, you did not address what to do if the player sacrifices the queen and takes the knight.
Great opening, very helpful and practical.
Made a Brilliant move with this Opening thanks for the tips !
Fantastic!
Happy New Year too!
I find your videos extremely useful, but I wish you would explain more black openings.
Thank you I shall stick to this opening format 👍
Hi Igor..
Many thanks for the awsome chess lessons you share..
Is it correct or possible to play this system against king's indian set up?
Playing the Colle against a King's Indian setup is very solid. As a King's Indian player, I can tell you that it can be very annoying to have studied all this fancy theory and then have the White player just make solid moves. It throws you on your own resources. You will just get a chess game where the better player will win.
@@ArisianFusion tanks
show a vid defending against those attacks by white
After Re1
What about e5 for black
I play this before but just I realized how potent this is
Bishop to F8 traps whites queen, knight defends checkmate.
--- Bf8!!! White Queen trap.
If black moves the c pawn aggresively to c4, attacking the bishop, how should we respond?
That's a common error by black, and after Bc2, Black can't stop e3-e4(-e5) with a perfect K-side attack.
great video ! It looks similar to London opening
This is a good example why I hate "youtube chess teachers". In the real world, under 2000 ELO, 99% of people plays c4 with black. But here there is not a single mention to it.
C4 is advantageous for white as he explains in another video on the system.
Does it accomplish anything? No. Bishop still controls diagonal if you pull back to C2.
Impossible to cover every variation in a single video unless you want an hour long+ masterclass.
Just drop the bishop back and then proceed to break the center.
Now black has an isolated pawn and wasted a move.
Black move black square bishop to F8 to attack the white queen
What if black pushes pawn toward white bishop?
Thanks for sharing my friend
When you prepare your repertoire, always consider moves derived on the basis of human logic, not all the time engine suggested moves only. Here in this video 8...b6 is the wrong continuation and on the basis of which the whole video stands. Engine suggests 8...e5 is the best reply for black and the position is drawish. But in practice, Black players of even 1800+ ratings having no early knowledge on this opening in almost all occasion should continue with moves like ...b6 or ...Bd7 and these type of moves should be there in your repertoire. Thanks Igor for your video.
So it's like the Slav, I've always wondered why openings that look the same have different names depending on color, except the kings Indian, like the Sicilian and the English
I've seen "Sicilian Attack" mentioned as an alternative name for the English actually.
There's also the Stonewall Attack, which is the Stonewall variation of the Dutch with colours reversed. So maybe the Colle should be called the "Slav Attack".
@@mikekeenan8450 Semi-Slav attack. The London is the Slav attack.
If black move bishop to F6, white's queen is lost. It might not change the outcome of the game, but it will at least make things more interesting.
Va-t-il y avoir une suite pour les autres variantes?
Unfortunately when I play this system, black never plays these pasive moves and I struggle!! I find the same with all these type of instructional videos from all the chess content creators. I am a beginer so I guess I just need to preserve!
Thank you!
7:29 what if black plays pF3 to put pressure on the night
What is the name of this opening?
Grob opening please