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"A man who's life was so insignificant to him that he ended his life alone, soon was the hero and ultimate actor in disguise for the sake of the world"
That is beautifully poetic.
@@mrstorch5068 well said
If you told him that he needed to take his own life to change the course of the war would he still do it?
I think he would @@althausz1 in fact I think he'll be proud of his achievement, but not knowing him has an obstacle, we don't know if he will agree to sacrifice him self to war, maybe if we could tell in the after life he would feel like a true hero.
Operation Paperclip
There's something deeply sad about Mr. Michael never knowing how important he really was. But how touching that he ended up being buried with full military honors. At least he found some dignity in the end.
Rightly so he saved thousands of lives its the least they could do to honour him
Actually @Ten too, it isn't. This is not the first time I've heard this. It's well documented and you can find plenty on it if you try. What made you dismiss it? It's no crazier than the Army fooling Hitler into thinking we were going to invade somewhere completely different than Normandy by using blow-up tanks, wooden cutouts, and dummies to make it appear from overhead there was a massive troop buildup. Sometimes the craziest ideas work.
Am sure he wudd gladly have done it,
@@tonydoherty2190 more like Millions :(
@@MasterOfTheBrood I meant operation husky and the landing that killed 1500 troops but could have killed thousands more but they moved a lot of German troops and panzer to another country
If I recall correctly, you neglected to mention a crucial detail in why Glyndwr's body was chosen - he had pneumonia at the time of his death. They specifically needed a body with water in its lungs, as a drowning victim with dry lungs would be immediately suspect.
Nice 👍
There you go! I just commented on that today before I saw your post. I thought the bloke had pneumonia. I didn't remember anything about poison. That was taking a chance no trace would be discovered. Find yourself a book called Agent Zig Zag and that will keep you entertained about an actual one of a kind "lovable scoundrel" working both sides.
@@LiveMusicOntario Yes, that's the first thing I thought of when Thoughty2 mentioned the guy had offed himself with rat poison: wouldn't the Nazi coroner want to determine specific cause of death and thus discover traces of the poison?
@@davidanderson_surrey_bc
It wasn't a Nazi pathologist, he was Spanish. What the pathologist had was the body of a Brtish officer, apparently drowned and washed up on a beach in wartime, with water in its lungs. Why would he test for rat poison? Besides which, the British Consulate was pressing for the quick return of the body and (especially) the briefcase. The body was quickly released for burial locally. The briefcase was returned via Madrid where, as we know - and as we hoped - it was opened and the contents examined.
It's a bit of a stretch to say that Operation Mincemeat changed the course of the war. However, it certainly made the invasion of Sicily easier and less costly to the Allies than it otherwise might have been.
@@sirderam1 sure sounds like it changed something!!!!!🌷
Imagine after you died you get assist kill, even though you never actually join the war
LMAO
A few thousand, actually
@@lamelime1 eh hem, a few million actually
To feel like nothing and end your life but end up creating and changing history saving lives and being buried with Honors... That's crazy..
Not to get all religious but hopefully wherever his soul ended up gains the brownie points for his accomplishments. RIP
Kinda like St.Mindy in The Good Place
@@TH3B0N3Y4RD can only hope
imagine him being in hell for killing himself and then the gatekeeper's like
"Oh... looks like there's been a change of plans and you're a war hero now! We'll call an angel to pick you up at 7 and bring you to heaven."
@@TH3B0N3Y4RD That makes no sense. People would only be judged for who they were while alive, so if someone was a terrible person while alive, no amount of good that his or her body happens to be used for will make up for any of that. I am not saying that applied to Glyndwr Michael, but the point is that it is only who he was while alive that counts.
It's shocking how much of an impact a single person can have, even after they've already passed away. This man took his own life, determined he had no purpose in the world, and look what that caused. RIP
A single blow can alter the course of history.
How much you wanna bet he didn’t kill himself and the British secret service just killed the guy, and then wrote down that he was found dead cause they needed his body
@@langdonsibley6184 20 bucks
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Butterfly effect
The thought of someone tragically ending their own life but then ends up saving the entire Europe is mindblowing.
Never forget Glyndwr Michael.
In saying that, Imagine he is a spirit wondering, "Why was I more useful dead then alive?"
@@x-streamehg4147 Mmmm.
@Mr. Raptor...he didn't kill himself. He ate bread that had been smeared with rat poison because he was hungry, not hopeless
Watch the video
It absolutely is. I knew about Operation Mincemeat but I'd really never thought about the man at the centre of it and I don't think I knew he'd killed himself. My previous best example of how different someone was looked at during their lives and afterwards was Van Gogh but Glyndwr Michael may have pipped him.
That's really awesome that they buried him with full military honors. It's a little iffy to use someone's dead body without any permission, although it might be a sort of necessary evil in times like those but the fact that they honored his memory was very respectful and admirable of them. What a wild story!
Idk suddenly drinking rat poison when coincidentally they want someone like him seems fishy 🤷🏾♂️
@@bennynagon9322 well we never will know because he's dead and until we can do some necromancy shit it will stay that way.
Now I get where the phrase in Casino Royale "Just because you are dead, does not mean you can not be useful" came from!
Or Martyr...
Seriously? That line was actually in the movie? That is just a-mazing, and one of the best pieces of movie trivia EVER!!! 👍🇬🇧
Voldemort used the bone of his father to resurrect himself so his father is useful even though he’s dead 😎
@@main8824 And used his victims corpses to create an army of inferi.
Many men have used the dead corpses of their comrades as cover and concealment.
They tried to make a Hollywood movie out of this but by the time a dozen writers and producers were done adding their inputs it was Weekend at Bernies.
They obviously had troubles spinning this to be an American enterprise.
Yeah, they'd have made a mess out of this story, no doubt.
Hahaha 😅
If this is for real, it's really funny lol
Well Argo was true and definitely brilliant! That film left me jaw dropping as to how successful the operation was.
Imagine dying only to have your corpse being used in a top secret and fascinating spy plan during ww2, not to mention having your corpse's identity changed.
He did his part
@@PissJuice he wasn't worthless after all. :)
I d be happy being able to help through being a waste of air
@Reuben Stacey need a biscuit?
@Reuben Stacey here, have a biscuit. 🍪 (That looks more like a cookie, I'll work with what I got xd)
Absolute class again Arran! Just when I thought your channel could not get any better, you out do yourself - Great stories, always told with humbleness, humour and dignity ☺
This gives new meaning to the phrase “you only want me for my body”
lol
Bruhhh
I love you, inside and out.
Hitler: Mostly out.
Lol
Anyone else get a little teared up at the end? A man who thought he was nothing; becoming one of the most pivotal characters to change the tides of war. How amazing!! Great video.
The axis lost the war in 1941 august. The war was well won by this time.
Yeah...i certainly did.
no. not really
Never forget Glyndwr Michael, The Man Who Never Was.
@@TheIfifi we basically agree. Though I think Sept 2 of 1939 was the point when Germany was ensured not to win and 1941 June 22 marked the point of no return where their losing was a matter of time. This "xy event, battle or Intel action or invention or weapon turned the war" is a laughable bullshit of snake oil salesmen.
Sun Tzu would have been proud.
This was a masterpiece of art in the theatre of war.
Absolutely, much respect to the man who wrote the book that we still use today. A true master in my book!
Wow, such intellectual
Thoughty2 should have researched thoroughly. Operation paperclip proves that the Nazi's did win the war, they were just transported to America to continue their evil deeds there.
Every fucking time someone has to mention Sun Tzu lmfao. We get it you read The Art of War.
what was the quote????
I find it interesting that as a German I have to remind my US and UK friends time and time again: THE turning point of the second world war and the beginning of the unstoppable demise of the Wehrmacht began at the eastern front, with the devastating defeat at the horrible Stalingrad. It cost the Germans a number of soldiers and initiative they could never compensate. It also encouraged the allies to go for Italy.
Please note, I do NOT want to minimize the contribution of this poor fella, and the whole covert action is top A 👍. I also like the fact that I live in a democracy and not communism, lol. I just want to keep in mind the sacrifice the Russians made by taking the real brunt of the aggression of my ancestors, and paid them back tenfold. All sad, but to be remembered. Peace.
honestly as soon as the germans antagonized both the USSR and the US it was just a matter of time before they lost. but yes, everything after stalingrad was essentially a death spiral
lol sacrifice my ass, Stalin wouldnt take the advice of his own advisers when they knew hitler was invading, if he did, he wouldve been more prepared aand not gotten screwed. More like hubris fucked them, nothing else.
Communism can be democratic. They are not mutually exclusive. A democracy is a system of government and communism is an economic system.
@@lukejohnson486 I think Japan 'antagonized' us more than the Germans did. That's when we decided to join the Allies and just raze everything, because that's how we roll.*
*This is not always a good thing
@@YuuoChaos tbh you ran out of time to raze the Germans. But your definitely made up for it with japan.
"Oi, Jean, the blokes down at intelligence want a saucy photo of ya"
"Why?"
"Ocean hobo"
BWAHHAHAGAGAGA
Best comment on this post - no contest 😎
😂😂😂
What's ocean hobo?
@@rizilm2229 slang for something lewd.
Jean: "When I was a young lady I worked for British Intelligence"
Grandchildren: "According to this you took saucy photos and staged a fake engagement with a vagrant"
*dead vagrant
X D
If you're doing that and you're married to a living person is it morally fine then?
@@macekreislahomes1690 yes, yes it is
You know why? Because it was war
Also, not really cheating, like at all, either
@@hayo_hru is there a list of all the immoral acts that become cool if one is at war or is it one of those just wing it as you go sort of things?
@@hayo_hru at least she didn't took the body home and give it a honeymoon night to remember if you know what I mean
This is genuinely the most interesting story I've heard over the last couple of years
Watch someone called Kento bento there's a vid called prison escape something idk just watch it, its as interesting as this one
miso soup
@@goodgenes0 yes
There's another great WWII spy story, look up Juan Pujol Garcia, it's absolutely _absurd_ and I don't want to ruin it for you but well worth the time to read about.
You should look into the "Bat Bomb" A back up plan...?
Recently found your channel. INSTANTLY hooked. Super excited to watch all your video’s. Thanks for all the hardwork and high quality content.
This man probably imagine his life had no purpose and he would be forever forgotten only to be a key figure in changing history as we know it
He was useless. It’s called recycling, we made better use of that walking sack of meat
(Dong take it seriously, I’m kidding, it’s a reference to the Rimworld community
That guy deserved better)
@@FlorenceSlugcat don’t*
He didn't do this in his life but in his death.
Operation Paperclip
I want to like this but I don't want to ruin the 666 upvote number.
He's from my home village of Aberbargoed in the Rhymney valley South Wales.
There's a memorial plaque there celebrating what he did after death to save others 😊
That is absolutely amazing, so did he have family, someone discovered enough to honor his memory,
Cheers,
Rik Spector
Well to be honest, he actually did nothing. 😂
@@rikspector , I dont remember anyone claiming to be a member of his family in the village. This may be because it was rumoured that he was either an alcoholic or dependent on drugs. I remember being told by older relatives that he was a very quiet person that never mixed with others and one day just disappeared. Others say he had depression and went to London to get away from people who knew him.
Sad he died alone though, but he will be remembered 😊
@@Shokwave8 that's what I was thinking. Imagine becoming a war hero because the military used you after you died
Here in Spain I remember that I heared the story at school long ago before the internet. Not in the main textbooks but in one of those momments that teachers add nice side notes.
that fact that watching this by yourself is more entertaining than watching it in a classroom speaks volumes
I am 14 and I find this comment very deep and thought-provoking.
@@mariushuisman7087 r/im14andthisisdeep
@@bawicinzah6958I think that's the joke he was going for
That is because here you CHOSE to watch it. In a class room you are forced to watch it.
@@brucenorman8904 i too don't like the current education system .
But saying that ,not being able to enjoy something you would otherwise enjoy, just because it's something you have yo do is just plain out immature.
That's maybe explained by your age ,but never the less it ,being able to enjoy things you HAVE to do is something. Everyone should train themselves to do .
Personally it took me till last year of high school to figure out.
But most people, especially girls learn it from an earlier age .
A way to achieve this is to remind yourself of why you are doing the thing you don't enjoy (such as different school classes)
If you have not done so already, setting vague life goals could help
This was one of the most interesting/entertaining videos I’ve ever seen. Instantly subbed! looking forward to binging all your videos
I think it’s so awesome they buried Glyndwr with full military honors. There was so much respect and honor given to him.With his death, he unknowingly saved thousands of lives !
Total respect Glyndwr ❤️
I would go so far as to say millions.
@@huyphucmai2661 it would kinda be like how Russia’s population today is fucked up because of how many lives were lost in World War Two. If one person dies that would have other wise had two children, you’ve killed three people in two generations. If each of those children were to have two children you’ve now killed seven people in three generations because of one death. You can only imagine this with the amount of people that would have died.
@@jemdie1013 precisely
Alot of Russians died in both world wars, in World War I in particular they had more soldiers than guns, the rear lines would pick their fallen comrades rifle and continue on.
@@chrisnorris3641 the tree R's
Recycle
Reuse
And...
R E E E E E E E E E E E E E E E E E E E E E E E E
Reaper: "Alright and you are going to....hm... Heaven! Congrats!"
Michael: "What? But I barely did anything in a my life! And I killed myself too!"
Reaper: "Yeah, but when you were dead you saved the world from Hitler"
Michael: "I did WHAT?!"
Although he must've been in hell for some months before God took him from there and welcomed him to heaven..
@@danielmuddasani2194 be careful I feel wooshes coming
And no rats were harmed in this Top Secret operation!
Some critical facts need to be addressed.
16:08 "The successful invasion of Sicily held huge consequences for Hitler and his attempts for world domination."
What world domination? Pretty much just European domination, for like, just 6 years. Hitler was friends with Arab and Persian leaders oppressed by Britain. All Hitler did was give some Europeans a taste of their own colonialist medicine, replacing "The White Man's Burden to subjugate other races for their own good" with "The Aryan's Burden to subjugate Europeans for their own good so we can all unite against Stalin's Communists." And many capitalists in America saw Hitler as a hero who would destroy notions of worker uprising once and for all, and had no qualms about building American factories in Europe with cheap European slav labor supplied by Germans, until Germany declared war on America in hopes to get Japan to declare war against the Soviets (what a foolish move that was, Germany didn't realize Japan hasn't ever declared war for the past 10 wars... it's like their tradition to lie and cheat). Some continued selling to Germans while at war, like Standard Oil kept selling oil to the German Navy, and ignored Congress's warnings.
I mean, the fact that Anti-semitism was prevalent all over the Western world for millennia, which inspired Henry Ford to write a Jewish conspiracy book called the International Jew, which inspired Hitler tells a lot of uncomfortable truths that you can't pile all the ugly stuff onto Germany like everyone was trying to do for decades.
Britain was called the Empire on which the sun never sets for about 300 years, for a reason. Britain invented concentration camps for the 2nd Boer War as early as in 1899, and still used them after WW2 in the 1952-60 Kenyan war for independence and killed 1 million freedom fighters and their families. Look up images of starving white children like Lizzie van Zyl who died in British camps.
Churchill stockpiled grain for a war that never came, and sacrificed 7 million Indians and Bengali. Even the British officials of the viceroyalty of India told him to stop requisitioning grain, and all his response was "Really? So why hasn't that rebel Gandhi starved to death yet?"
Also, Churchill tried to gas the Kurds.
@Quowtaye A be careful too because my spider senses are telling me that you are also about to get raided with wooshes
"All warfare is based on deception. Hence, when we are able to attack, we must seem unable; when using our forces, we must appear inactive; when we are near, we must make the enemy believe we are far away; when far away, we must make him believe we are near."
- The Art of War, Sun Tzu
"You will never fully understand resolving conflict without violence until a mosquito lands on your ball's" Sun Tzu"
“All warfare is based” sun tzu “do them dirty in front of they squad” neitzsche
@@PocketOMoxie “all the worlds a stage” Sun Tzu - he said it should be read by Sean Bean
"All warfare is based on deception" -COD4
"Love is a battlefield" - Pat Benatar
oh wait
What a great tale. Always a pleasure to here these gems you put out.
Most people become heroes for their deeds while alive but this man became a hero for being a corpse
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6:37 sir we cant find the body for the job.
You see that homeless man over there, just feed him some rat poison
I mean... it is quite possible it happened that way
Lol
yaha, "we need a fresh body and then put it on ice right away. hmm all the ones we get of young men are killed in the war and not in the condition we need."
the fact he was homeless and not fighting in the war i think removed any remorse the allies had in murdering a vagrant. i suspect they approached him and offered him a free meal, laced with rat poison.
What
This is how it is being done here in Germany.
Recall the story of the Reichssender Gleiwitz.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gleiwitz_incident
The person responsible was Alfred Naujocks
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alfred_Naujocks
who already had murdered Rudolf Formis in 1935 for running an anti Nazi radio station in Czech Republic.
The head behind the "attack" on Reichssender Gleiwitz was a certain German agent by the name of Schindler, Oskar Schindler that is....
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oskar_Schindler
“Join the army see the world”
Yeah they told me that same thing with a straight face too
Was all they said
@Sylar Rogue nothing changed much then
😂😂⚰️
They said it would be a life changing event. They wasn't lying.
I read this story in a kids' magazine in the 1970's, believe it or not. It did not mention the name "Operation Mincemeat," and it said nothing about him being a vagrant or committing suicide, but everything else was there, even "Pam." It did mention that the reason Mr. Michael was chosen was that he had pneumonia and water in his lungs - the pneumonia being stated outright or implied to be the cause of his death. It's a story that has definitely stuck with me.
Shout-outs to my man Glyndwr Michael, dude could've never known he'd play such an important role in history.
The hero he died thinking he would never be.
Kinda sad
I bet the brits killed him instead of them finding him dead
Apple
I would hope that they gave him posthumous medal for his service
Imagine him being in hell and suddenly an angel picks him up and says
"Come on up. You saved the world."
LMAO I CAN imagine it Clearly
after a moment, the angel adds:
"Also, stop doing that. It's not sanitary."
@Adolph Hitler nein
Why would he be in hell anyway? His only "crime" was being homeless and dying in poverty. If anything he should be pitied.
@@fatherelijahcal9620 Suicide is considered a sin. He took his own life by ingesting rat poison.
when people tell you "you're better off dead!", Glyndwr Michael is someone who can reply with "you're absolutely right".
😇
I can't believe I never heard his story before - what a wonderful tale, thank you:)
This is literally what they mean by
"Your death wasn't in vain"
There's a book called "Operation Mincemeat" by Ben McIntyre that tells the story in more detail. One interesting suggestion in the book is that the allies could have been helped by unknowingly having an inside man. This was Alexis von Roenne, a senior member of German Army intelligence who personally vouched for the authenticity of the documents found on "Major Martin." Von Roenne is now known to have been against what the Nazis stood for- in 1944 he was actually hanged by the 3rd Reich- and the book says it's possible von Roenne, who was apparently a gifted and experienced intelligence officer, may have realised the documents were fake but told Hitler they were genuine in the hope of hastening the defeat of the Nazis.
What a legend
when life doesn't treat you well, but treats your dead body better
Jealous of my dead body... It'll get its own room
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This is absolutely my favorite video so far awesome story
Amazing. He didn't find worth in life but the universe found his worth in death.
Maybe not the ENTIRE Universe, but, as far as light's been able to travel, so, yeah, good on you, Glynwydr! You did good!
It’s not far fetched at all to think that rat poisoning wasn’t a suicide act. I mean he was a no-one after all 🤔
"...the real heroes are those who gave their life for their country"
-US Veteran
To me, he's a hero.
We live in society
@@Stephan1988 More like people perceived him as a "no-one" because they would have deemed him as one for ending up where he did. In my own perspective, there are no nobodies. Just because they lived their life the way they did, peoples' assumptions about someone can still be wrong. Like, who qualifies as a nobody? Who decides which people are nobodies? (feels like I wrote this wrong..) Why is their statement more important than others? And so on..
I don't like to deem people to be unimportant because life hasn't gone as well for them as they wish it would have. Who knows? Some people might consider "important" people to be nobodies. But, no one is a nobody to me, because I feel it's disrespectful to do that when you know barely anything about that person to begin with. But that's how I see it.
This history of a man who killed himself out of loneliness and dispair becoming a hero of WW2 is a deeply moving story. God bless his soul
ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT H*TLER OR DO I HAVE TO WATCH THE VIDEO TO UNDERSTANF
@@winter_3407 watch the video
@@winter_3407 jesus christ, when you put this out of context it really does sound fucking cursed.
and I hate myself for actually finding that comment funny for a split second, god I regret typing this
“Before becoming a full-time corpse...” I’m concerned over the implied existence of a part time corpse.
Works less than 16 hours
Sleeping
(zombie noises)
*The Walking Dead theme song plays*
Vegetables
The Allies also used a very extensive misdirection campaign to set up the Normandy invasion.
Ultimately, Hitler was fighting too many battles on too many fronts, and stretched his army too thin across the board.
"All war is based on deception. Hence, when we are able to attack, we must seem unable; when using our forces, we must appear inactive; when we are near, we must make the enemy believe we are far away; when we are far away, we must make him believe we are near." -Sun Tzu, The Art of War.
"Yo can someone make a quote book for me?" -Sun Tzu, probably
probably the only real "The art of war" quote on youtube
@@Chuckpeeto i don’t think you’ve seen the art of war
@@typer2909 he got 9 likes you got 0, the reason: everything stated in OP is factual quotes from the book
@@ExulInsani lmao
I've known this story for a long time, but your storytelling makes it fresh again.
So much this.
It's absolutely insane that this actually happened and it was of actual strategic importance to a world war effort.
true. kinda still wrapping my head around it
Not really, the nazis were going to lose the war. It was just a matter of when.
This isn't the only example of brilliant strategic planning that seemed utterly crazy at the time.
Pigeon guided smart bombs and bombs that were full of live bats fitted with tiny pyrotechnic bombs. The bats dispersed to Japanese wood framed construction and hundreds of tiny fires did the work of a much larger mission if explosives had been dropped).
(ideas way ahead of its time).
The Doolittle Raid... (what should have been a suicide mission to deliver a trivial attack on Tokyo to frighten Hirohito into pulling air support resources off of Japanese fleet carriers to reinforce the main island group defenses).
Inflatable tank decoys... (A deception within a deception where the nazis were allowed to discover that the military buildup giving away Allied intentions to invade Europe at Normandy, were only inflatable decoys... Once the nazis discovered this, the Allies moved the real hardware into place with the nazis thinking it was still just props).
Using small wooden fishing ships towing a large iron hulled barge to set off the magnetometers in the massive ship killing mines the nazis had deployed.
... and Churchill deliberately allowing the bombing of Coventry to prevent the nazis realizing that the Enigma Cypher had been cracked.
A half dozen Norwegian cross country skiers, slipped into the nazi heavy water plant and blew it up, destroying Hitler's bid to build nuclear weapons. Nazi defense plans for the plant were designed around defending against aerial bombardment and the defenses were massive, but a hand full of heroic men slipped in on skies, unnoticed.
rofl, its mostly bs buddy, don't be a sucker :P
This channel does not subscribe to tangible evidence, lmao
You people sound like the type who will say "why didn't the nazis just make more panzers". Germany was going to lose any way. Exactly like what Andrew 300082 said. It was a matter of time
Interesting how such small things can have such incredible impact.
I appreciate that you go and do research to then give people history lessons of things that schools don't teach, honestly I love that
Cant wait for the taxes lesson
My young son laps up channels such as this.
@@SilverVolo lmao I could use that
@@iniquity123 awesome
Right? Personally, I've learned WAY more from Arran than I ever did in school, he is amazing!
That man surrendered his life thinking the world will be fine without him, he had no significance there.. but little did he know, he saved the world through self sacrifice, he deserved somebody to remember him, which he expected not to get. But now, the world will remember him
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@@nezzyg2.0 wha-
Its pretty crazy if you think about it he saved the whole world thinking he was better off dead
@@fwhot it was an assisted suicide obviously, if he committed suicide into a abandoned building it would have been weeks before he disintegrated and started smelling 😂 I don't think that people are just randomly looking inside abandoned places for no reason 😂
@Edwin Younes I know he just killed himself, because he felt worthless, but no one in this world is worthless, or unworthy of living.he killed himself believing he has no place in this world anymore. Sure they might have found other bodies, but definitely he deserves to be called a hero for howuch helpful he ended up being and he deserves a praise. It's only right to remember him even though all what happened was involuntary. It's not right to see him as nobody. He is somebody.
*dies of depression*
these guys:
"its free realestate"
Not I fucking love that
Amazing 😂😂
Normally when I click on a Thoughty2 video I learn something new and that’s something that I love but I always feel so accomplished when I already know about the topic. Im a *huge* WWII history duff, so I learned about Operation Mincemeat from a tv show on Netflix called Mincemeat (im pretty sure) this was a great refresher!
How the nazis lost to a bear
How the nazis lost to a corpse
Next up: How the nazis slipt on a bananner peel
the corpse was the one of hitler thats how we lost the war
@@wilhelmbetz3565 *what do you mean we*
@@picklechicken8396 he's german I think
@@Miguel-wp4go still, "we" sounds a bit scary xD
@@Miguel-wp4go He isn't he's actually Austrian
Just came to Germany
Should have stayed there now I feel bad for being German lol
It wasn't the only deception. There was the actor playing ' monty's double' who fooled Romel in North Africa. And all the tricks that led to make the Grermans think Dday was going to be somewhere different.
Another deception around D-day was to have General George Patton lead a fictitious Army.
They convinced the Germans that the invasion was going to be at Calais however they mentioned that Normandy was going to be an invasion but not the invasion. Deception can only go so far when you are massing entire armies worth of troops at a single point on the coast of Britain.
I'm so happy to learn Glyndwr Michael received a proper tombstone inscription. What a fascinating story.
Yes thats the least he deserved and a very touching to update to the epitaph.
I am glad that they gave him a heros Burial instead of a normal one or just cremation.
Belated Merry Christmas to you, and a Happy New year Thoughty, to you and your Moustache!
"Hey, do you live alone here in this warehouse ? Do you have family or relatives? here, drink this, it will help you with the cold"
Highly plausible
yup that's also possible actually. the whole vagrant thing was just made for the people's symphathy
@@redapproves1330 Especially when you imagine that death by rat poison is slow and extremely painful. Being suicidal doesn't mean you want to suffer.
@@damyr also death by poison vs death by any other methods look very different. I'd expect the German Drs be able to tell the differences. If the body was discovered shortly after let loose from a sub was true.
@@damyr nah it really does happen was common in my country a bit
This story was as entertaining and as educational as it was absurd. I loved every second of it.
...the word you're looking for is "revisionist" - the idea that the Soviets were able to kick the sh*t out of the Nazis only because of clever Brits is straight out of "Boy's Own". Then again, when you come to think of it, the Brits claim they won WWII.😬
@@illitrait lmao i agree
"How the Nazis Lost the War Because of a Single Corpse"
*Archduke Franz Ferdinand.*
Gavrilo Princip sending his regards 🇷🇸
@@GreatUchiha123
Ehh... I wouldn't exactly look upon him with thanks. How do I put this... in an uncharacteristic moment, words fail me. If he hadn't killed Franz in 1914, Austria wouldn't have went to war at that moment with Serbia, Germany wouldn't have given their 'blank cheque' of support to their ally Austria, Russia wouldn't have mobilized their forces, Germans wouldn't have told them to stop, Russians would have replied "Nyet," Germany wouldn't have invaded France through Belgium in an effort to avoid a two-front war, Britain (and by extension the rest of the Empire) wouldn't have then automatically joined the war because of a treaty they had with Belgium stating they'd go to their aid if they were ever invaded, the conflict wouldn't have turned to stagnant WWI trench warfare (of which a young Adolf Hitler would partake in), this war that Germany ultimately would end up losing wouldn't then lead to arguably quite unfair treatment of them in the Treaty of Versaille, Germany wouldn't have been left in an economically disastrous state while the rest of the West rebuilt and enjoyed the Roaring '20s, Hitler wouldn't have looked upon the wealthy Jewish doctors and lawyers around him with a hateful socialist scorn while he lie poor on the streets as a veteran, the German people wouldn't have been desperate for a leader who will ease their burden and give them a scapegoat that many would find possibly both solace and resentment in having, poor British leadership at the time wouldn't have kept looking the other way while Germany strengthened themselves in spite of it breaking the Treaty of Versaille in many ways, WWII wouldn't have had to start finally once Hitler invaded Poland, Operation Mincemeat wouldn't have had to take place to make the invasion of Fascist Italy less difficult, the man who committed suicide might not have done so since the hardships of WWII wasn't just one more thing for him to be struggling with besides homelessness (a struggle that I have experienced myself twice in my life), Hitler wouldn't have had to shoot himself in the head, at least not at that very moment and with Soviet Commie enemies bearing down on him, and Japan wouldn't have to ultimately be nuked to finally end WWII which itself likely wouldn't have happened if not for WWI which is theorized as being kicked off largely because of the assassination of Archduke Franz Ferdinand by Gavrilo Princip.
It would be like a sniper assassin killing a relatively mild political figure because of what might be their nationalist ideology, a small war breaking out between small countries because of it, a string of complicated alliances leading to a gruesome world war, that world war culminating in very harsh treatment on the nation perceived as escalating the small war into that gruesome world war, poor conditions of that poorly-treated nation leading to them electing a bigoted lunatic with dreams of supreme grandeur in regards to blonds leading to a second and even more brutal world war that includes genocide, but that same sniper assassin assassinates someone else which results in that second world war ending. Do you REALLY want to thank that sniper assassin? It just doesn't make sense...
@@normanmccollum6082 Quite an essay, and a good one at that, considering it's "only" a reply to a comment about a TH-cam video.
BTW I'm glad to see (well, infer, actually) that you are now not homeless. I was one day away from that myself some years back. One of my bleakest times.
@@davidanderson_surrey_bc
Glad you enjoyed it, writing long TH-cam comments is something I've been doing for years. I find writing fun, and I'm lucky to be able to say that I make three-figures monthly from it and have been doing so for years. Not from TH-cam comments, but from writings elsewhere online. Not many writers can say "I've been making more than $200 per month for over three years."
Yeah I'm not homeless anymore, thankfully, and I'm also married. Unfortunately I am an alcoholic (stereotypical of a writer) but she is very understanding of it and we're steadily working on it. Everyone goes through hard times.
@@normanmccollum6082 it was quite entertaining reading your comment👍🏻
I read the book " The Man Who Never Was" about 30 years ago.... Brilliant plot. Brilliant execution.
You forgot to mention that in order to get verisimilitude for the documents, they talked to generals about what generals would write to each other. And after some attempts, the generals just said, "Here, let me write what I would write," and collusively participated in the operation with words and context exactly like what a general would say to another general.
"As I'm sure you're aware, jamming ww2 military boots onto the feet of a frozen corpse is no easy feat."
Me: Yes.
th-cam.com/video/1DXaAkm34zA/w-d-xo.html
@@nezzyg2.0 tf?
I'm just hoping you're like dexter and only go after serial killers, cause I totally support that sort of thing.🤷♂️
@@chrisnorris3641 I just give them shoes. Not the shoes the deserve, but the shoes they need.
@Ms Bliss oh my. Quite the foot orthodontist we have here
"ey Hernandez you'll never guess what I just caught!"
"What?"
"A corpse!"
"...hold up..."
ohhhhhhh fuuuu-
I usually just cut the line and move down the beach a bit. I don't want to be bothered by the ordeal of having to call anybody, tried once to reel it in to get my hook back, but it was just messy and totally not worth it. People just looking at you like a psychopath
First common story between you and MrBallen, I love your stories.
"Yup...that's me. Dead. And a ruse. You're wondering how I got myself in this situation?"
Crap, where have I heard this from
@@blastoid37 warm bodies maybe
nvm it wasnt
Its from ratatouille
@@derpygodzilla2438 thanks m8
"How the Nazis Lost the War Because of a Single Corpse"
*Hitler's body*
Naw, Hitler did more harm to the German war effort by running it.
@@dx1450 The nazis I said. Not germany...
@@dx1450 naw hitler ended the war at 1941
@@username6338 true, but he's gotta be dead by now right? *R i g h t ?*
@@Zactipus Hitler wasn't a Nazi?
Best quote ever: "The Nazis may have counted some of the most evil men in history amongst their number, but apparently they really knew their underpants."
They had 5,000 guys who were experts on British clothing, and were known as the Pantser Division. You might say they were crack troops.
Britain is a very deceptive country.
In the last moments of Glyndwr Micheal’s life, he lied in a warehouse, alone and feeling insignificant. Just then, a light appears to him in that moment, and a voice whispers to him and a feeling of purpose fills within him. He’s shown the Future, where the allies have won and the War is over. Tears of joy fill his eyes, and with Poison on hand, he drinks and begins to fade from this life. I believe he’s a hero to be remembered with all those who sacrificed for our country.
Nice littlw fan fic but... idk maybe not.
RIP Glyndwr Michael Thank you for your service. You helped the World more than you'll ever know.
Fr imagine thinking your life would never mean anything. So you take it, only to help out in a big way.
"Join The Navy! See the World!"
*Joins the Navy*
*gets put on a submarine*
*sees nothing*
Well, there is a chance he’d have seen a fish or two. And most definitely those wheels you turn to open doors on the subs. It may not be much, but it’s at least something.
The correct punchline, which was told to me by an ex- Navy person, is: "You joined the Navy to see the world, turns out that most of the world is water".
@@andyginterblues2961 lol! i was just speaking from personl experience.
Gets put on an aircraft carrier, only see water and aircrafts.
@@Joshua_N-A I live near an airbase and I imagine that the sound can be really disturbing for some of the people in the neighbourhood. I imagine that living on a aircraft carrier can cause similar problems.
Imagine watching down from heaven and looking at your body and thinking: what the hell are they doing?
Or even worse, you're a nazi sympathizer watching from hell, then you end up in heaven after the plan works out
@@surelock3221 Mission successfully failed
@@surelock3221 then god is unjust, so nothing different.
@@distinctjarl939 your pfp cute
Corpses on tour
What a story. Couple of great films made about this as well.
My Grandad fought in Greece, Tunisia, Sicily, France and Denmark.
He's now banned from Saga holidays.
Huh
?
What
Lmao
@@carltrotter7622 his grandad kept getting into fights at saga in all these places.
As a direct result of Operation Mincemeat, Hitler was convinced that Sardinia was the real invasion target.
He heavily re-inforced that island, Greece, Crete, and the Balkans.
*But Not Sicily.*
Thousands of troops, many aircraft, and patrol vessels were actually moved OUT of Sicily to other places.
Allied losses were therefore much lower than expected during the invasion.
Thank you
Captain Obvious
“ The Man Who Never Was” was a very good 1956 British film. In that movie the man dies of pneumonia and his father is convinced to give the body up for the war effort. Probably more dramatic that way.
it was so soon after the event the movie changed a fair bit to protect identity. also the Russians would be watching and think "hey, thats a great idea" ...
I read the book of that. I thought it was all true. I totally bought the pneumonia cover story. Very fortunate the germans didn't get suspicious and do toxicology on the body.
Another reason they also could have believed it was because even though Greece was under the control of the Axis,there were lots of brave resistance movements across annexed countries so the Axis perhaps thought that if they liberated or fought to liberate Greece,that would break the obstacle for any of those movements to expose they’re heads and help the allies but also because they might have thought that if the allies and USSR were in secret communication then they might have believed that the plan would have been to sandwich their forces between the USSR and the Allies. So out of desperate measures they decided that since those 2 possible options could happen if they did fight there,they decided to fortify Greece instead of Sicily.
Imagine him in the afterlife being actually confirmed by the world that he was of more use dead than alive jfc. That is really morbid to think about
That would be a real "OOOF!" moment right there!
yeah so many people saying its "moving"
this is just war and people further using others for their own goals
No you got it all wrong! Being "useless" while alive was the precursor to becoming so valuable when dead. Had he been a successful citizen of the time and therefore felt no reason to kill himself they might have not found a suitable body in time to turn the war around. See it was all exactly as it should be! 👏
Its like watching "It's a wonderful life" except only the opposite XD
imagine in the afterlife caring.
"How a Soldier Won the Second World War After he Died"
- Original Title
"How a Man Single-Handedly Won WW2 After He Died" April 21 2021
"How A Man Single-handedly Won WW2 After He Died"
-2nd title
Edit:
"How The Nazis Lost The War Because Of A Single Corpse"
-4th title I think?
Ja
how a man won the Second World War II
"The Secret Plan that Won WW2" was the title when it had 15K views
"I'll never be able to help the war effort. That's all I ever wanted..."
* Drinks poison *
📌 Pin Worthy
Sometimes to achieve your life goal you gotta die and sacrifice your corpse to be shipped to spain first
As in the movie "Casino Royale", the dialogue was used, "just because someone is dead, doesn't mean they cannot still be useful"
Don’t really have words, they dressed up a dead guy but for something majorly important. Just sad he didn’t have anyone or ever know he mattered in the end.
Knowing how workplaces are, you just know there’s a story behind how they picked who got to be Pam. “Ladies, the war effort is going to need a bathing suit photo from each of you. For.. pocket liter. Big Edna, you are exempt.”
Haha! Poor old Big Edna :p
Alright let's all be professional about this, this isn't fun and games, it's tactics. Stop snickering back there.
@@PastelPiku no one cares nowadays
@@mclz_ i care : )
Raise a PINT for Glyndwr, which I'm sure will now become a name popular, once again.
And it was YOU who reminded the world!
Very cool story. You never know what life has in store for you. Or death it seems. Poor man. I wish he could know. Thanks Glyndwr 🍻
I did have a shot for the man, well done mate, well done! That scheme was literally, the Bomb!
How do you pronounce it without vowels?
well the w is a vowel in welsh, in most cases. it’s just like he pronounced it in the video, approximately like the wovel in foot or just like people with a northern english accent (like the narrator’s) pronounce the u in but
@@ruined_carpet9630 thanks
hats off to Jean , who ,as Pam , wrote a convincing love letter between herself and the Major . this after the real planers could not write such a letter that was believable .
Amazing piece, my 9 year-old was glued to the entire video which is a huge compliment since he's not a fan of history.
Proves that not being a fan of history is impossible.
@@slendveny7191 or rather that anyone can be one
History is extremely interesting, it’s just taught in most schools in an incredibly boring way.
@@surnuddsprs8365 ye
@@avi763 ye
The gravestone actually reads:
William Martin
born 29 March 1907
died 24 April 1943
beloved son of John Glyndwyr Martin and the late Antonia Martin of Cardiff, Wales
Dulce et Decorum est pro Patria Mori
R.I.P.
Glyndwr Michael
Served as Major William Martin, RM
Interestingly, Montagu was banned from ever disclosing the real identity of the body, yet (without anyone noticing) put the name Glyndwyr onto the grave in the form of Mjr Martin's Father's middle name.
He was a really clever man :-)
Intelligence: Hey, we found an obvious fake soldier corpse someone left us.
Command: How do you know it's a fake?
Intelligence: He has all his papers, personal belongings, top-secret documents... etc. Nothing is missing.
Command: Even the white wool undies?
Intelligence: Yup.
Command: You're right, it does look suspicious...
Yes
Very sus
I'd have thought questions should have been asked where the "Soldier Corpse " had come from and where he was going... But it fits in with other careless descisions made by the Germans who did seem determined to shoot themselves in the foot on many occasions...
Hitler: I see nothing suspicious about this
100th like, woo hoo!
Mr Lomas, thank you for a wonderful video, not only picking an amazing topic/story to relate but the production of gamified pix and audio sounds even as well as your own narration of the material, all super entertaining and enjoyable. I like watching this even though I have seen it a few times already just for its production values and polish. Ok so here are a couple of questions I have; actually 3 questions. 1.) Did you see or respond to the person somewhere below i read a few weeks back, who suggested that a part of the story you left out was the need for waterlogged lungs and that that was accomplished by the homeless man having died of Pneumonia? 2.) It is unclear to me why the Nazis would not be suspicious of how exactly did this man come to drown? What was he doing dead in the water? Did he jump in to save the secrets? I guess what I'm asking is what is the plausible story as to how he was supposed to have wound up in the water and drowned etc? Ok question 3.) What about the papers they examined, how were those kept waterproof or was this a standard thing that anyone carrying such papers had some kind of waterproof brief case or backpack? Thats all i got for now. Would love to know the answers to my queries but either way thanks again, really fine video in many many ways and I would love to have had you as a History teacher.
Kinda makes you hope there's an afterlife so Glyndwr could see how he'd made a difference.
hopefully not. he would see what a clown show the world has become and he would try to end himself once again just to escape this afterlife nightmare.
@@pivkemrzli2297 nah don’t think he would bro
@@cilliancallaghan9788 Tbh the world is not getting better for the majority as the rich are still exploiting the poor (3rd world countries) and the political system (corruption, etc.) very much. Also crimes are getting even more subtle nowadays (like bribing to secure a good workplace, illegal goods trafficking, etc.)
@@pivkemrzli2297 o yea so it was way better in WW2 when millions were being slaughtered?FFS 😂
@@septianputra2496 the world is not getting better because we still have left wing schitts trying to take rich people's money instead of earning their own.
Thank you Glyndwr. I hope history never forgets your name.
Strangely Popcorn, the name 'Owen Glyndwr' or 'Glyndower' is an ancient Welsh hero.
@@reencollett6835 it's Owain, and that second pronunciation of that surname is incorrect btw
Hard to forget a Welsh name. The Welsh language is like eye candy in language form.
" All warfare is based on deception " - sun tzu
Ask Mossad.
CoD MW
Is that an actual Sun Tzu quote?
@@whyarewestillherejusttosuf3427 yes
@@whyarewestillherejusttosuf3427 ya
I am so glad they finally put his real name on the headstone.
RIP Glyndwr Michael and thank you for your service and my freedom.
That Unknown Deceased man was the real MVP. He deserved a Medal of Valor
But he is known. His name was Glyndwyr Michel, weren't you listening?
I wonder if his family was ever made aware of his important role in this war. It turned out he was quite a hero!
"Something that was going to need to be rectified, if the war was to be won." Perfect understatement.
Exactly!
My great grandad was part of one of Flemings missions during his sting in Greece training new recruits, which included him volunteering for a self proclaimed one-way suicide missions to blow up the Iron gates up the Danube river. Unfortunately it went awry and got captured by the Axis powers within that region. Incredible story and that man was/is a hero of mine.
I've often wondered about the true identity of "The Man Who Never Was." Heaven keep him. Thank you, Thoughty2!
What an incredibly interesting and historically significant story - well done!! 🖒🖒
The most impressive part of all of this is the finishing move of encrypting those messages knowing full well that they cracked your encryption code, and then sending a message that the plans arrived safely. Absolutely brilliant.