The Gardner museum heist is one of my favorite stories in history of art, and I am from Boston and in my personal opinion, the art is hidden in plain sight
I've been obsessed with the Gardner Heist for years now. There are a bunch of books on the topic, and even a podcast and Netflix series. It's such a fascinating mystery.
I actually think, in her earlier days , that she said her tattoos are personal and private so she won’t be showing them all. I don’t know why I think I remember that but I’m sure she said that x
I think art belongs to the countries it originated from unless the creators are alive so they can do whatever they want with it. Also, the Boston heist seems like it was a "we did it to prove we can do it" kind of thing. At least, that's my supposition
I agree, mostly, but what if the country it originated from is unstable or war-torn? What if they want it back so they can destroy it or hide it because they don't like what it says about their country's history? Some things should obviously be returned because everyone knows they were stolen, like the Elgin marbles, but how safe is it for the Rosetta Stone to be returned to Egypt when the Cairo Museum was looted and parts of it were burnt down during the 2011 revolution? It's a really difficult, nuanced, conversation.
And this is why Vincenzo Peruggia stole the Monna Lisa. I'm Italian and we have a feud with France about the painting, it's more of like a meme nowadays but there's also a "song" that was made when Italy won the football World Cup (FIFA) in 2006 specifically against France (that came in 2nd) that chants "now give us back our Gioconda because we're the World's Champions, it's ours, it's ours, we want the Gioconda" - it's kinda funny and it's called "Materazzi ha fatto gol" if you're interested lol (If you didn't know, Gioconda is the alternative name to the Monna Lisa) Ok so basically Vincenzo Peruggia stole it thinking it was property of Italy and therefore wanted to gift it back to the country. I have to say, we're bittersweet about France having such a masterpiece, because how it became their property isn't that clear. It's controversial because Leonardo spent years painting and repainting it in Florence, Italy, but he took it along with him when he got to France. It's believed that he either gave it as a gift to King François I or he sold it to him, but since there's no real record of how exactly it got into French's hands, we don't trust it was necessarily obtained in a nice way. Most Italians consider the Monna Lisa ours (which is technically right, the Monna Lisa is an Italian painting from an Italian artist) and claim it was stolen, reality is that it's not likely but there's nothing factual to stop this feud. Anyway I was in France literally last week in vacation and we went to the Louvre, whisper-singing that chant when in front of the Monna Lisa because it's funny, but there's people actually believing that it should be returned. Vincenzo Peruggia is surely a hero in the eyes of lots of Italians, he was wrong but trying to do what he thought was right
I forgot it was Thursday and I got so excited to see a new Dark History! And I love stories about heists even more. Thank you Bailey! Also you look gorgerous 😻😊
I think there is a difference between art and antiquities. Art from an artist may be sold and resold, but antiquities should not ever be sold. All the stuff stolen from Egypt is horrible, but it is true from so many countries.
This is so interesting because I'm currently taking a class on the ethics of museums and we talked about how Kim Kardashian was part of the reason the MET got caught. It's just so cool to hear her say stuff I learned at college
Hi Bailey! I would like to thank you for adding the eng subs on every of your dark history podcast video. it helps me so much as a non native english speaker. i learned a lot here. i love you so much!
Love watching you talk about weirdos and crazy people! It’s the best part of my week. I get everything ready, my morning coffee, put out all the makeup and stuff I need, put my pink leopard rob on, sits down at my makeup station, turn on the mirror lights, push play and start my morning! Love u Bailey🫀🖤
I too love art history, especially because of all the drama associated with the pieces. 😂 Why do you prefer Caravaggio's? Personally, I prefer Gentileschi’s rendition.
I’ve been to this museum in 2004. They have the spots empty where they were taken with a story of The heist. It’s crazy that to this day that this was not Solved. Not even close to a conclusion at all.
You said during the Joan awards Thursday, that no one watched this one. I felt horrible because I never miss your videos. I told you I was going to find it and watch it. I'm not a no one; I did watch it. I never thought you would break my heart like that.😢
So, I've watched just about every video you've made. There has never been a comment that has made me audibly gasp and clutch my pearls until you said "she burned them". Thank you for all of your content! I love it!😅
I have always suspected that Bert and Ernie were former low paid security guards of the museum and revenge was a part of the motive. They didn’t hurt any of the security guards and even checked on them before they left…
Long time subscriber here-I took a class on art theft in university and one of the security guards that is STILL considered a suspect for the Boston heist was a student at my university at the time. My professor takes his classes every year to the museum and before we could explore the museum he would make us apologize to the head of security collectively lol Thanks for covering this topic love your channel 💕
I work in a museum and I would like to say that most museums have some type of insurance policy that covers damage or possible thievery. With the Bert and Ernie art heist. I would suggest looking into if the museum had an insurance policy on the art and if so who could possibly gain from that insurance policy. Bert and Ernie could have been hired to steal the art but never actually wanted the items for themselves. It always makes sense to follow where the money would go. When it comes down to the question of where should artifacts live? That's a difficult question. I would argue that items should go wherever they can be preserved and protected for the most amount of people do appreciate. If museums in institutions would give legal and verbal ownership of items to their place of origin that would be awesome. But where those items live can be preserved in the most effective way should be where they reside or physically live. In my mind is the most ideal compromise.
Ugh. My favorite uploads!! You just made my day ❤ They look like Mario and Luigi too 😂 I think as long as art is in a safe place it’s okay. Art was made to be desired and admired. If pieces from certain parts of the world get traded to other museums it’s okay. If everything stayed in one space most people wouldn’t be able to admire and appreciate it.
So if you love Carravaggio’s Judith and Holofernes, you should check out Artemnesia Gentilishi's painting of the same- it's even gnarlier! Love. Side note: Artemnesia would be a FANTASTIC subject for a MMM. Additional side note: the history of Hobby Lobby and the stolen cuneiform tablets! It already sounds like a Nancy Drew mystery, doesn't it?
Judith Beheading Holofernes!! Caravaggio's is great! I have always been partial to Artemisia Gentileschi's versions :) You are awesome! Thank you for sharing these stories!
Does anyone have any guesses or know where Bailey got her earrings from?? I love them! And if anyone liked Caravaggio's Judith, check out Artemisia Gentilesche's Judith :)
i love bailey’s viddies so much! i have severe anxiety and i watch her videos every morning before i go to work to mentally prep myself for the day ahead ✨
Bailey, girl, you play the sims? I love that! It's always fun for me to know that I am not the only one sitting at home playing with virtual dolls. 🙆🏼♀️
I saw the Mona Lisa in the spring of 1997 along with a number of other fantastic paintings and sculptures. One of the most memorable experiences in my life. I would love to go back and really soak it up as an adult.
BAILEY!!!! I’m watching this at my school's library rn instead of writing my research paper on Judith beheading Holofernes!!!! 🤯Okay, I am living for this episode. I love that you have that painting by Caravaggio, and that one still stands for feminine rage. He painted himself as Holoferenes because he was riddled with guilt (whole other story), BUT 10 years later, the artist, Artemisia Gentileschi, painted the true feminine rage one out of the two. She titled it Judith Slaying Holofernes and painted herself as the one slaying him. It's a little more blood and aggression than Caravaggios. Like almost all her famous pieces, she painted it after she was r*ped as a way to cope. (I don't want daddy youtube flagging this)
The Gardner Heist is so crazy. I never learned about this and I’m over in New Hampshire, just about an hour away from Boston! Reminds me of White Collar, which is my favorite show of all time. Neal Caffrey is an iconic art thief. And a hottie!!
You mention the art heist episode had the fewest views during your Joanie awards episode. 🥺 I’m coming back now to watch it… I’ve never seen this thumbnail in my TH-cam algorithm. I love these episodes because I’m a history nerd. 🤓
I m so glad you did some dark history content. I am fascinated specifically the the Isabella Stewart Gardiner museum heist. I'm also fascinated by the few museum that have secret rooms ( guggenheim). So cool
As a native Manc (person from Manchester) I can tell you we sound absolutely nothing like Londoners! 😂😂😂 Bailey you should come to Manchester! I'll show you all the cool stuff we have here! ❤
I feel like museums are the best option because there’s only so much a picture can do when it comes to learning. Being able to easily go and see it would be best for anyone trying to learn about anything. It would be rather difficult for someone to learn about Egypt if they constantly had to go tour there to learn about it.
The GAAAAAHHHDNAH!!!! I used to live right down the street from the museum and it is SUCH a cool spot. My aunt was a VIP member for years so we got to go for free and the courtyard on the inside is so gorgeous. Highly suggest a visit if anyone is ever in Boston!
"Swiper no swiping!" bwahahaha thank you Bailey for that... After enduring annoying children's programming as my daughter grew up, that little reminder was hilarious.
Joan’s outfits are getting more elaborate every episode, and I’m here for it. ❤
I'm just happy for Paul and his new hat!
Joan fan club right here, U.K contingent!
The mother setting the paintings on fire broke my heart 😭😭😭
I studied art and this is heartbreaking
I'm pained.
As an artist hearing that the first time was so disappointing
She was crazy. Talk about destroying cultures.
I love these less heavy Dark History episodes. I can learn without getting really depressed.
I like the depressing ones 😅
@@sirenasaenz2299 I do sometimes too. But these are a nice break! 🙂
Totally totally agree. Love the other ones too but it’s so easy to get into your own head and remember how cruel the world is sometimes…
The paintings being burned didn’t get you depressed?
@@CutiePie-cq5dx I probably missed that.
Working in an art museum while I listen to this one. I love it! 😂😂😂
That's kinda cool. 😂
That is pretty epic!
Better be watching out for them art thieves 😂
Now ask yourself…did anyone get away with it while you watch/listen to this episode?
DUN DUN DUUUUUUUNNNNNNNN!!!
The serotonin boost when Bailey uploads >
We looove you! ❤😊
Thought it was just me…also knew it was universal. 😂❤
Someone copy & pasted your comment and left it as their own, a few comments down from yours. I'm sorry, idk why ppl do that.
She is my antidepressant!!!! She feels like family!
Facts!
I LOVE YOU BAILEY!! this woman grew so much over the years and i enjoyed every second of it!
Me as well but she hasnt changed a bit as far as how awesome she still is
“he walks out with a painting tucked under his arm LIKE ITS A LITTLE CLUTCH AT A WEDDING”😭😭😭this sent me
The Gardner museum heist is one of my favorite stories in history of art, and I am from Boston and in my personal opinion, the art is hidden in plain sight
I visited the museum today and it was beautiful! The courtyard…..🤩🤩🤩!
That theft makes me feel physically ill.
You're like a little sunshine Bailey ☀️
I've been obsessed with the Gardner Heist for years now. There are a bunch of books on the topic, and even a podcast and Netflix series. It's such a fascinating mystery.
I watched the Netflix doc also
What’s the name of the Netflix show?
@@CutiePie-cq5dx It's called 'This Is A Robbery'
I know it’s not her typical content but I so wanna see a tattoo tour video. 💕💕
I’m 99% sure she’s done that on one of her other channels 😊
I actually think, in her earlier days , that she said her tattoos are personal and private so she won’t be showing them all. I don’t know why I think I remember that but I’m sure she said that x
@@Bliss31 you're right....i believe she said so no one gets the same thing...it's been years pre MMMM days....so i could be wrong
that baby pink night suit is to *DIE* for, you look adorable Bailey
I've never visited her shop but if she isn't selling the PJ styles with "Dark History " embroidered on them, she's missing out on that bag
I think art belongs to the countries it originated from unless the creators are alive so they can do whatever they want with it. Also, the Boston heist seems like it was a "we did it to prove we can do it" kind of thing. At least, that's my supposition
I agree, mostly, but what if the country it originated from is unstable or war-torn?
What if they want it back so they can destroy it or hide it because they don't like what it says about their country's history?
Some things should obviously be returned because everyone knows they were stolen, like the Elgin marbles, but how safe is it for the Rosetta Stone to be returned to Egypt when the Cairo Museum was looted and parts of it were burnt down during the 2011 revolution?
It's a really difficult, nuanced, conversation.
And this is why Vincenzo Peruggia stole the Monna Lisa. I'm Italian and we have a feud with France about the painting, it's more of like a meme nowadays but there's also a "song" that was made when Italy won the football World Cup (FIFA) in 2006 specifically against France (that came in 2nd) that chants "now give us back our Gioconda because we're the World's Champions, it's ours, it's ours, we want the Gioconda" - it's kinda funny and it's called "Materazzi ha fatto gol" if you're interested lol (If you didn't know, Gioconda is the alternative name to the Monna Lisa)
Ok so basically Vincenzo Peruggia stole it thinking it was property of Italy and therefore wanted to gift it back to the country. I have to say, we're bittersweet about France having such a masterpiece, because how it became their property isn't that clear.
It's controversial because Leonardo spent years painting and repainting it in Florence, Italy, but he took it along with him when he got to France. It's believed that he either gave it as a gift to King François I or he sold it to him, but since there's no real record of how exactly it got into French's hands, we don't trust it was necessarily obtained in a nice way. Most Italians consider the Monna Lisa ours (which is technically right, the Monna Lisa is an Italian painting from an Italian artist) and claim it was stolen, reality is that it's not likely but there's nothing factual to stop this feud.
Anyway I was in France literally last week in vacation and we went to the Louvre, whisper-singing that chant when in front of the Monna Lisa because it's funny, but there's people actually believing that it should be returned.
Vincenzo Peruggia is surely a hero in the eyes of lots of Italians, he was wrong but trying to do what he thought was right
Bailey is the gift we need, but don’t deserve.
Protect this woman at all costs! ❤
Bailey!!!! We NEED the dark history of CHARITIES!!!
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One of my favorite Dark History episodes!
Utterly fascinating to this former Art History student.
You should do the dark histor of ww2. The Japanese unit 731. I was reading about it the other day and it's so twisted.
I forgot it was Thursday and I got so excited to see a new Dark History! And I love stories about heists even more. Thank you Bailey!
Also you look gorgerous 😻😊
The fact you called them the Burt and Earnie the whole time had me in tears love your work
I immediately thought of the show “White Collar”. This topic is so fascinating and exciting! Thanks Bailey 🤍
Art should be enjoyed by the masses.
I think there is a difference between art and antiquities. Art from an artist may be sold and resold, but antiquities should not ever be sold. All the stuff stolen from Egypt is horrible, but it is true from so many countries.
This is so interesting because I'm currently taking a class on the ethics of museums and we talked about how Kim Kardashian was part of the reason the MET got caught. It's just so cool to hear her say stuff I learned at college
he thinks he's so quirky 😭😭😭
" im not like other *thieves* "
New dark history! I love love Mondays and Thursday’s 😃
Why did hardly anyone watch this? It’s awesome and as usual the usual Bailey iconic storytelling! Love it! 💋
Joan always has the best costumes! 😂😂
BAILEY you should look into the shell oil controversy in africa, it's an absolute rabbit hole I fell into
I KNEW IT!!!! I knew Joan was an Art Theif 😂 🖼 🦅
I see Joan is branching out in her career choices. Careful Bailey or you will be standing bail for her. Great episode…love what you do.🖤🇨🇦
Hi Bailey! I would like to thank you for adding the eng subs on every of your dark history podcast video. it helps me so much as a non native english speaker. i learned a lot here. i love you so much!
I love you Bailey! For real, you're like my bestie that I've never met 😆😊
Thanks for making my day complete with an upload!
All hail Queen Bailey!
One of my favorite Dark History so far!❤ Bailey you are the queen of story telling.
I believe that art belongs in museums, preferably the "right" museums but defiitely available to the public so that its legacy lives on forever.
As a Brit, I love it when Bailey does a British accent in one of her videos.
shout out to Joan! thats commitment girl, love to see her every episode
I listen to the podcast and then come here to see Joan’s outfit. Girl always be working it
You look gorgeous in this dusty rose pink Bailey ❤
Love watching you talk about weirdos and crazy people! It’s the best part of my week. I get everything ready, my morning coffee, put out all the makeup and stuff I need, put my pink leopard rob on, sits down at my makeup station, turn on the mirror lights, push play and start my morning! Love u Bailey🫀🖤
I too love art history, especially because of all the drama associated with the pieces. 😂 Why do you prefer Caravaggio's? Personally, I prefer Gentileschi’s rendition.
Been watching you for years and loved you and your personality. Thank you for being a rare TH-camr to stay true to themselves and being fricken cool
I’ve been to this museum in 2004. They have the spots empty where they were taken with a story of
The heist. It’s crazy that to this day that this was not
Solved. Not even close to a conclusion at all.
Bailey looooooks sooo beautiful, that hair slays!!!!!
My week isn’t complete without Bailey’s uploads. Love you girl🎉❤
You said during the Joan awards Thursday, that no one watched this one. I felt horrible because I never miss your videos. I told you I was going to find it and watch it.
I'm not a no one; I did watch it.
I never thought you would break my heart like that.😢
Don’t ever get rid of Joan. She’s amazing and we love her 😜😁 Pleeaaasee and thank you 🥰
Bailey ilysm I literally binge watch ur vids
i’m going to major in art history and i love hearing stories like this
Since I live in a timezone more advanced, I get these uploads at Friday mornings. What a nice way to end my week with! 💜
Thank you Bailey for always making me giggle ☺️
"Snitches get stiches Bailey" Nice Joan😂
So, I've watched just about every video you've made. There has never been a comment that has made me audibly gasp and clutch my pearls until you said "she burned them". Thank you for all of your content! I love it!😅
I have always suspected that Bert and Ernie were former low paid security guards of the museum and revenge was a part of the motive. They didn’t hurt any of the security guards and even checked on them before they left…
Long time subscriber here-I took a class on art theft in university and one of the security guards that is STILL considered a suspect for the Boston heist was a student at my university at the time. My professor takes his classes every year to the museum and before we could explore the museum he would make us apologize to the head of security collectively lol
Thanks for covering this topic love your channel 💕
The Queen has arrived to bless us with her presence and knowledge! As always you are a rockstar and stay true to you love you ❤️🐝🌻❤️
YEEESSSSS!!! Makes me feel all warm and fuzzy knowing so many are watching the same thing. Love listening to Bailey talk about stuff...
I love Artemisia Gentileschi's version of the beheading of Holofernes.
I work in a museum and I would like to say that most museums have some type of insurance policy that covers damage or possible thievery. With the Bert and Ernie art heist. I would suggest looking into if the museum had an insurance policy on the art and if so who could possibly gain from that insurance policy. Bert and Ernie could have been hired to steal the art but never actually wanted the items for themselves. It always makes sense to follow where the money would go. When it comes down to the question of where should artifacts live? That's a difficult question. I would argue that items should go wherever they can be preserved and protected for the most amount of people do appreciate. If museums in institutions would give legal and verbal ownership of items to their place of origin that would be awesome. But where those items live can be preserved in the most effective way should be where they reside or physically live. In my mind is the most ideal compromise.
You and Kelsi Davies need to do a collab please I’m living for it
The Isabella Garner Museum heist still baffles me. The Concert by Vermeer, stolen in the heist, is worth 250 million dollars today! Mind boggling!
My happy days are Mondays and Thursays!!
Of course when Bailey uploads!!!
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Not me looking at my account and taking meticulous notes on this 😅
When she mentioned Supermarket Sweep my heart skipped a beat!!!! I still watch the re-runs on Roku TV 😭
This is The best Classroom ever !!
Always something New to Learn on Dark History 😁
Another copied comment?? Do you not have any original thoughts?!
I wrote this 4 min after her upload ...look at the time stamp
To be honest, Bailey is the only TH-camr whose ad's I watch in it's entirely and I HATE ADS because I want every cent to go to her!!
Ugh. My favorite uploads!! You just made my day ❤
They look like Mario and Luigi too 😂
I think as long as art is in a safe place it’s okay. Art was made to be desired and admired. If pieces from certain parts of the world get traded to other museums it’s okay. If everything stayed in one space most people wouldn’t be able to admire and appreciate it.
Giving love to this episode since your latest awards episode. ❤
The 2nd story made me think that was about insurance etc. For the museum to pay for thing needed there.
So if you love Carravaggio’s Judith and Holofernes, you should check out Artemnesia Gentilishi's painting of the same- it's even gnarlier! Love. Side note: Artemnesia would be a FANTASTIC subject for a MMM. Additional side note: the history of Hobby Lobby and the stolen cuneiform tablets! It already sounds like a Nancy Drew mystery, doesn't it?
530 am here in Australia....looking forward to laying back n listening💜💜💜
Judith Beheading Holofernes!! Caravaggio's is great! I have always been partial to Artemisia Gentileschi's versions :) You are awesome! Thank you for sharing these stories!
Are those... Dark History pj's? We need this in the merch shop!!!
Does anyone have any guesses or know where Bailey got her earrings from?? I love them! And if anyone liked Caravaggio's Judith, check out Artemisia Gentilesche's Judith :)
I look forward to Mondays and Thursdays every week!! I constantly check my phone those days to see if she's uploaded yet
i love bailey’s viddies so much! i have severe anxiety and i watch her videos every morning before i go to work to mentally prep myself for the day ahead ✨
Bailey, girl, you play the sims? I love that! It's always fun for me to know that I am not the only one sitting at home playing with virtual dolls. 🙆🏼♀️
Just what I needed at the right time.
Huge fan. Love your sense of humour.
Love from the UK.
I saw the Mona Lisa in the spring of 1997 along with a number of other fantastic paintings and sculptures. One of the most memorable experiences in my life. I would love to go back and really soak it up as an adult.
BAILEY!!!! I’m watching this at my school's library rn instead of writing my research paper on Judith beheading Holofernes!!!! 🤯Okay, I am living for this episode. I love that you have that painting by Caravaggio, and that one still stands for feminine rage. He painted himself as Holoferenes because he was riddled with guilt (whole other story), BUT 10 years later, the artist, Artemisia Gentileschi, painted the true feminine rage one out of the two. She titled it Judith Slaying Holofernes and painted herself as the one slaying him. It's a little more blood and aggression than Caravaggios. Like almost all her famous pieces, she painted it after she was r*ped as a way to cope. (I don't want daddy youtube flagging this)
I already loved you but then you reminded me that those GI Joe videos exist. You are just extraordinary 🖤
Happy Thursday everyone! 😃 I LOVE Thursdays! 😚❤️
The Gardner Heist is so crazy. I never learned about this and I’m over in New Hampshire, just about an hour away from Boston! Reminds me of White Collar, which is my favorite show of all time. Neal Caffrey is an iconic art thief. And a hottie!!
Guuurl, this hair! Yes please! 🙌👌🫦
Thanks for sharing more dark history with us queen 🖤
Love it! Joan’s outfits always make me laugh and happy!😂❤ Thank you for the little things!
I really needed to hear "hi friends" today ❤.
i loved the sound effects and the background music on this one ! amazing as always ❤
This is a great topic! Love the variety of our history lessons ❤️
You mention the art heist episode had the fewest views during your Joanie awards episode. 🥺 I’m coming back now to watch it… I’ve never seen this thumbnail in my TH-cam algorithm. I love these episodes because I’m a history nerd. 🤓
I would love to know about the dark history of bank robbery, kinda in the similar vein lol
I love both your makeup mysteries and dark history but I'm jealous of those pjs!! I want them!!
Your definitely the best part of Monday's and Thursday's.. ❤
Bailey is so incredibly beautiful💕
I m so glad you did some dark history content. I am fascinated specifically the the Isabella Stewart Gardiner museum heist. I'm also fascinated by the few museum that have secret rooms ( guggenheim). So cool
Yay, you uploaded a video! ❤😆💖 I totally thought you weren't posting this week!
Right when I needed something to listen to while I fold clothes, Bailey always comes through!
SAME
I love this episode. I'm sorry it didn't make the Joanie Awards. Lover her outfits!!. I've watched this a dozen times
As a native Manc (person from Manchester) I can tell you we sound absolutely nothing like Londoners! 😂😂😂 Bailey you should come to Manchester! I'll show you all the cool stuff we have here! ❤
I feel like museums are the best option because there’s only so much a picture can do when it comes to learning. Being able to easily go and see it would be best for anyone trying to learn about anything. It would be rather difficult for someone to learn about Egypt if they constantly had to go tour there to learn about it.
The GAAAAAHHHDNAH!!!! I used to live right down the street from the museum and it is SUCH a cool spot. My aunt was a VIP member for years so we got to go for free and the courtyard on the inside is so gorgeous. Highly suggest a visit if anyone is ever in Boston!
"Swiper no swiping!" bwahahaha thank you Bailey for that... After enduring annoying children's programming as my daughter grew up, that little reminder was hilarious.