Thank you all again for your support in my last two videos! They actually have been performing better than previous vlogs I have done, so if you would like me to keep these videos up, please keep LIKING, COMMENTING, and SUBSCRIBING to show your support which allows me to continue making more genuine videos instead of click baity / strictly informational videos. Would love to continue keepin' it real with y'all! ❤
Yes we need more videos like this!!! As an animator i always worked a part time customer service job while being an animator that i could work full time in between jobs. I finally ended up having to switch careers because the instability/lack of health insurance was too difficult. Also carpel tunnel.
I really like your perspective on health insurance and freedom in general. I don't want my choices in life to be governed by employment-provided health insurance either. I work a corporate job and yearn for the freedom of an independent artist more every day, but it's a whole other mountain I have to figure out how to climb. There's so many nonsensical limitations to full-time corporate jobs and I want my time and flexibility back.
I totallyyy agree! I've grown up being told that it is important to have good benefits from my employer, but I'm just like... is that what should just dictate my life decisions? Definitely something I've been thinking about too.
I find it absolutely WILD that those aspects of the industry are not taught in art schools (I'm from France I had hopes it would be different in other countries) and that's also why I like you channel. Making a career is not only about art related stuff.
the part about not stick to the idea of being one thing and let that defines you resonated with me so much!! Im an animator and for a loooong time Ive been not allowing me to do anything else than what u expect of an animator to do, and kept bottled up the things I really wanna do. I took me 8 years in the industry to realise that this shouldn't define my life and I can be other stuffs as well as an 9/5 animator, or even tho not being an animator for a time if I want to, and Im way more happy now and even my relationship with my animation job changed.Thank you for the video and since I discover your channel recently Im really enjoying it! Keep the amazing work and all the best in your journey
Michelle thank you so much for sharing this information with us. I am considering moving to Cali and I would like to hear to your experience on becoming a homeowner. Also the finances on living in an expensive city, like L.A. as an artist.
I'm really loving this path of videos that you're beginning to release! It's so appropriate for a lot of people given the state of the creative industry right now. Would love to hear more!
I genuinely appreciate your openness and transparency in sharing your experiences about being laid off as an artist in the animation industry. It's refreshing to see someone address this topic with such clarity and practical insights. I'm curious to know more about your plans for the storyboard career course you mentioned. How do you envision it helping aspiring artists navigate the industry better?
This video about being an "UNEMPLOYED ARTIST in LOS ANGELES: Getting Laid Off" is both brave and relatable. Sharing your personal experiences and challenges can be incredibly helpful to others going through similar situations. Keep up the great work of being authentic and sharing your journey!
You're absolutely right that there's a lack of resources discussing what happens between jobs in creative industries, and your willingness to fill that gap with your experiences is commendable. Your positive outlook and focus on personal growth during these transitions are truly inspiring.
Thank you! I'm glad these videos help. My plan for the storyboarding course is to definitely teach someone how to storyboard, but on top of that, how to handle the career itself. For example, most people don't know what kickoffs, passes of boards, script changes, what your relationship is to other teammates at the studio are. They didn't teach us that much about it in school, and I feel like it would be helpful to teach others so that they know how to approach situations at work while also being a board artist. I hope that helps!
Thank you so much for sharing everything. Regarding your experiences and how you cope, I am currently an MFA student in 3D animation. Previously, I was a financial analyst at a private equity firm. I left my prior job because I despised the monotony of a stable life. I believe it’s this uncertainty that makes us more vibrant, much like how wild animals are more alert. Haha, I’ll always support you.💪
This is great Michelle 🙂. Being an unemployed artist is somewhat relatable for us, if not relatable than a common worry we have, which is why more people are engaging! I’m glad it’s doing well on your channel im rooting for your independent career. That’s what I’m aiming for too. 👊🏾
Yess!! I've been enjoying this type of vlog videos ❤Thank you for sharing! Maybe you could share how you plan your schedule or days as an unemployed artist? Would love to see. All the best for you!
@@mewTripled I would love this as well! I live in Central California and study animation currently, and my boyfriend and I were planning on moving in together this spring. We are long distance and concerned moving to Orlando, where he lives as I finish up school since LA and California is more expensive. With me looking to getting an animation job in the future I'm just trying to figure out what the most logical thing to do would be.
Another fantastic video! I would love to hear more about buying a house in a HOL place. I'm only a year younger but I feel so behind - especially on the house buying front (and financial/investing knowledge in general).
I support ya! I wish I can support financially through Patreon but alas this is the best I can do for now lol. Glad to see you on this journey! All the best. PS Yes compared to my corporate job in operations, animation seems like a more fun corporate job. But I too just want to give up corporate work altogether and it I can just sell art that would be way more ideal. And that's why I support you!
I stumbled across your channel just a couple of days back. So so appreciative on how frank you are in spilling the tea on the highs and lows of working in animation. I got laid off last year after working 7 years on a project and it's my first time going through this. The studio I was with is not local and they wanted to follow the American structure. I didn't know it was such a common thing in the US whereby once a project is over, you're kinda on your own again. I was always wondering why people there studio hop a lot and now I know. To be honest, I don't think it's healthy but American studios can get away with it since they are never short on finding talent. But you can't do that in Malaysia too much since the law here favours the employee. Malaysian companies tend to juggle a few projects at a time so there's plenty of work to go around. Once a project is over, they will squeeze you in to help out another.
i hated being unemployed when i was younger, always worried about how to pay rent. now with the MS diagnosis, I dont work at all and I miss it lol your class sounds like a great idea for the people that need it! 😀 could help a lot of people
Getting laid off is happening in every industry and has happened to me x2 in my 20+ career. For me it's time to get serious about getting into art somehow/some way. If I'm going to get laid off at some point anyway it might as well be in a career I enjoy.
Sorry to hear you are caught up in all the strike mess and are currently in between studios. Wishing you the best of luck. While I don't agree with you on everything, I think you are a good person and I appreciate your art, sharing , and perspective.
These videos have been extremely helpful! I was little concerned about what I was going to do after my job ends in November and now I have a better idea of what to do. Thanks for making these amazing videos.
Thank you for this info! I’m not an animator but graduated in studio art in May. I’ve been struggling really bad with the feelings of unworthiness at this time and these videos have really helped me calm down a bit and realize that this is just the instability of creative fields. I definitely feel so much better after watching these and appreciate the rawness and tips!
For your info there are no good storyboard course out there online. I took Steve Ahn action story board course didnt learn a thing. He talks a lot but the truth is most people taking the course cant event draw a good drawing foundation. Not to mention anatomy. Goodluck
I work from home and have been looking around for a really good standing desk and has been on the fence with flexispot! Also thanks for this I, fortunately enough, have not been laid off but I do have friends and colleagues who have so this is a really good video to know about. The scare is real and its over our heads nowadays. 😥
Yeah! I've had flexispot office stuff for the past 3 years or so and they really have come in clutch :) And yeah lay offs can be intimidating but can be less intimidating the more you know!
Hey Michelle, good chat video! I wish your ad for the chair and table came out sooner because I was just in the market for a chair 2 weeks ago! I will definitely keep in mind of FlexiSpot in the future when I am ready to upgrade. Your conversation about being in the Animation Studios is relatable. I was a 3D animator in film but ultimately moved on into jobs that required me to be a Generalist elsewhere, and those jobs kept me employed for quite a bit. It's very dependent on the timing, availability, location and fate to sometimes land somewhere 'stable'. Your book journey is a great one, please keep at it and may success keep coming your way!
home video pls, these financial ones are the most useful and life changing tbh compared to the art and animation related ones, even tho i am a animator aswell
Dude, cobra is such a joke omg. Thank you for sharing information on how to apply for EDD and your insights on the industry. You are helping so many people ❤ I’ve been wanting to get into the industry for such a long time and I feel like you’ve shed so much light on it.
It's not necessarily contract, but more like contracted full-time work, where you receive the benefits and everything but just for that period of time. So it's almost like a 1-2 year long commitment depending on what project you're on. But ultimately all the benefits are through the animation union.
I can't believe I've been on TH-cam for as long as I have and I still forget to like videos. So here's a like and a comment so you can keep making vlogs or whatever else you want! I finally bought the first Meesh book and I'm reading it rn and love it!! Meesh's grandma is so cute!!
I really love hearing your thoughts and experiences in the industry!! About the course, I would love to sign in but, as I'm not a storyboard artist (even though I would consider learning about it!), have you thought about making a course just on how to navigate the industry? Also, do you have any knowledge about the European industry? Thank you so much for sharing your knowledge!! 😊
Thanks so much for letting me know! While I don't have much information on the European industry, I'd love to learn more :) I'll definitely be including navigating the storyboarding career in the storyboard one, but a general animation industry knowledge one is good to know too!
Thanks for this video, it give me hope 🖤 I've been struggling to get economic stability for years now. I apply to studios, I get no answer, I get few jobs as freelancer, but they are few and far between. I feel I'm just a burden to family (althought they don't say anything, maybe I'm just paranoic). I see a lot videos telling you "how to achieve your dreams and just do it you'll get results" and I get really angry 'cause that dosen't work for everyone, you can apply for years to jobs in this industry and still get knowhere, you get tired of rejection, you try to do your own thing, you don't know where to start, you just do something and hope for the best 🫠 I feel that I should be somewhere different at this point in my life, I feel like shit man 😅 I'm just venting at this point out of desperation 😅 I'm sorry for the rant. Anyway, I apreciated the video ♥️
Thank you all again for your support in my last two videos! They actually have been performing better than previous vlogs I have done, so if you would like me to keep these videos up, please keep LIKING, COMMENTING, and SUBSCRIBING to show your support which allows me to continue making more genuine videos instead of click baity / strictly informational videos. Would love to continue keepin' it real with y'all! ❤
Ok 👌
I’m an art major and I guess fear and ignorance kept me doing something for a long time I didn’t really enjoy lol
Aww. Well i hope you take the time to figure out what actually makes you happy to do!!
Yes we need more videos like this!!! As an animator i always worked a part time customer service job while being an animator that i could work full time in between jobs. I finally ended up having to switch careers because the instability/lack of health insurance was too difficult. Also carpel tunnel.
I am glad you ultimately made the decision that is right for you ❤️
I really like your perspective on health insurance and freedom in general. I don't want my choices in life to be governed by employment-provided health insurance either. I work a corporate job and yearn for the freedom of an independent artist more every day, but it's a whole other mountain I have to figure out how to climb. There's so many nonsensical limitations to full-time corporate jobs and I want my time and flexibility back.
I totallyyy agree! I've grown up being told that it is important to have good benefits from my employer, but I'm just like... is that what should just dictate my life decisions? Definitely something I've been thinking about too.
I find it absolutely WILD that those aspects of the industry are not taught in art schools (I'm from France I had hopes it would be different in other countries) and that's also why I like you channel. Making a career is not only about art related stuff.
I know right! I hope more people talk about it in the future.
the part about not stick to the idea of being one thing and let that defines you resonated with me so much!! Im an animator and for a loooong time Ive been not allowing me to do anything else than what u expect of an animator to do, and kept bottled up the things I really wanna do. I took me 8 years in the industry to realise that this shouldn't define my life and I can be other stuffs as well as an 9/5 animator, or even tho not being an animator for a time if I want to, and Im way more happy now and even my relationship with my animation job changed.Thank you for the video and since I discover your channel recently Im really enjoying it! Keep the amazing work and all the best in your journey
Glad this resonates with you -- definitely something I've been and am still learning about!
Michelle thank you so much for sharing this information with us. I am considering moving to Cali and I would like to hear to your experience on becoming a homeowner. Also the finances on living in an expensive city, like L.A. as an artist.
Just bought a house in LA and agree a video like this would be amazing! I’m so house broke now 😅
Would love to do a video on that topic!
Ok I will definitely do a video on that!!
That desk is--damn! Now I have desk goals, lol XD
I'm really loving this path of videos that you're beginning to release! It's so appropriate for a lot of people given the state of the creative industry right now. Would love to hear more!
Thank you 🥹 glad to help in any way!
I genuinely appreciate your openness and transparency in sharing your experiences about being laid off as an artist in the animation industry. It's refreshing to see someone address this topic with such clarity and practical insights.
I'm curious to know more about your plans for the storyboard career course you mentioned. How do you envision it helping aspiring artists navigate the industry better?
This video about being an "UNEMPLOYED ARTIST in LOS ANGELES: Getting Laid Off" is both brave and relatable. Sharing your personal experiences and challenges can be incredibly helpful to others going through similar situations. Keep up the great work of being authentic and sharing your journey!
You're absolutely right that there's a lack of resources discussing what happens between jobs in creative industries, and your willingness to fill that gap with your experiences is commendable. Your positive outlook and focus on personal growth during these transitions are truly inspiring.
Thank you! I'm glad these videos help. My plan for the storyboarding course is to definitely teach someone how to storyboard, but on top of that, how to handle the career itself. For example, most people don't know what kickoffs, passes of boards, script changes, what your relationship is to other teammates at the studio are. They didn't teach us that much about it in school, and I feel like it would be helpful to teach others so that they know how to approach situations at work while also being a board artist. I hope that helps!
Thank you!
Ahhh thank you T_T
My daughter found your book at our local library and she can't wait for book 2! I hope you have plans to publish it!
Hey, you add some "making of" for the leftovers for your comic. That's what I've been doing.
Yep!
Thank you so much for sharing everything. Regarding your experiences and how you cope, I am currently an MFA student in 3D animation. Previously, I was a financial analyst at a private equity firm. I left my prior job because I despised the monotony of a stable life. I believe it’s this uncertainty that makes us more vibrant, much like how wild animals are more alert. Haha, I’ll always support you.💪
This was super helpful, thank you!! 💖
This is great Michelle 🙂. Being an unemployed artist is somewhat relatable for us, if not relatable than a common worry we have, which is why more people are engaging! I’m glad it’s doing well on your channel im rooting for your independent career. That’s what I’m aiming for too. 👊🏾
Glad to be talking about this topic more!
Honestly, as someone who's just starting out as new grad, this is so important to hear. Thank you for sharing your experience 💗💗💗
Thank you 🥹
These employment/unemployment videos with real world info are fantastic. Thank you.
I'm so glad!! Thank you!
Yess!! I've been enjoying this type of vlog videos ❤Thank you for sharing! Maybe you could share how you plan your schedule or days as an unemployed artist? Would love to see. All the best for you!
That would be a great video idea! Thanks for the suggestion 🙂
Would love to learn more about how you afford living in LA as a creative professional!
Great idea to do a what I spend in a day / my expenses!
@@mewTripled I would love this as well! I live in Central California and study animation currently, and my boyfriend and I were planning on moving in together this spring. We are long distance and concerned moving to Orlando, where he lives as I finish up school since LA and California is more expensive. With me looking to getting an animation job in the future I'm just trying to figure out what the most logical thing to do would be.
Another fantastic video! I would love to hear more about buying a house in a HOL place. I'm only a year younger but I feel so behind - especially on the house buying front (and financial/investing knowledge in general).
Good to know!! Will keep in mind for a future video!
I support ya! I wish I can support financially through Patreon but alas this is the best I can do for now lol. Glad to see you on this journey! All the best.
PS Yes compared to my corporate job in operations, animation seems like a more fun corporate job. But I too just want to give up corporate work altogether and it I can just sell art that would be way more ideal. And that's why I support you!
Thank you so much for your support in any way shape or form! It is always appreciated 🥹❤️
Wow, what a great desk
Thanks!
I stumbled across your channel just a couple of days back. So so appreciative on how frank you are in spilling the tea on the highs and lows of working in animation. I got laid off last year after working 7 years on a project and it's my first time going through this. The studio I was with is not local and they wanted to follow the American structure. I didn't know it was such a common thing in the US whereby once a project is over, you're kinda on your own again. I was always wondering why people there studio hop a lot and now I know. To be honest, I don't think it's healthy but American studios can get away with it since they are never short on finding talent. But you can't do that in Malaysia too much since the law here favours the employee. Malaysian companies tend to juggle a few projects at a time so there's plenty of work to go around. Once a project is over, they will squeeze you in to help out another.
i hated being unemployed when i was younger, always worried about how to pay rent. now with the MS diagnosis, I dont work at all and I miss it lol
your class sounds like a great idea for the people that need it! 😀 could help a lot of people
Getting laid off is happening in every industry and has happened to me x2 in my 20+ career. For me it's time to get serious about getting into art somehow/some way. If I'm going to get laid off at some point anyway it might as well be in a career I enjoy.
Sorry to hear you are caught up in all the strike mess and are currently in between studios. Wishing you the best of luck. While I don't agree with you on everything, I think you are a good person and I appreciate your art, sharing , and perspective.
These videos have been extremely helpful! I was little concerned about what I was going to do after my job ends in November and now I have a better idea of what to do. Thanks for making these amazing videos.
Glad to help in any way!
Thank you for this info! I’m not an animator but graduated in studio art in May. I’ve been struggling really bad with the feelings of unworthiness at this time and these videos have really helped me calm down a bit and realize that this is just the instability of creative fields. I definitely feel so much better after watching these and appreciate the rawness and tips!
For your info there are no good storyboard course out there online. I took Steve Ahn action story board course didnt learn a thing. He talks a lot but the truth is most people taking the course cant event draw a good drawing foundation. Not to mention anatomy. Goodluck
Sorry to hear about your experience. I am sure more storyboarding courses though already require foundational art knowledge beforehand!
I work from home and have been looking around for a really good standing desk and has been on the fence with flexispot! Also thanks for this I, fortunately enough, have not been laid off but I do have friends and colleagues who have so this is a really good video to know about. The scare is real and its over our heads nowadays. 😥
Yeah! I've had flexispot office stuff for the past 3 years or so and they really have come in clutch :) And yeah lay offs can be intimidating but can be less intimidating the more you know!
Hey Michelle, good chat video! I wish your ad for the chair and table came out sooner because I was just in the market for a chair 2 weeks ago! I will definitely keep in mind of FlexiSpot in the future when I am ready to upgrade. Your conversation about being in the Animation Studios is relatable. I was a 3D animator in film but ultimately moved on into jobs that required me to be a Generalist elsewhere, and those jobs kept me employed for quite a bit. It's very dependent on the timing, availability, location and fate to sometimes land somewhere 'stable'. Your book journey is a great one, please keep at it and may success keep coming your way!
Aww thanks! Yeah flexispot def has taken up all my office furniture 🤣
home video pls, these financial ones are the most useful and life changing tbh compared to the art and animation related ones, even tho i am a animator aswell
glad to hear that's of interest!!
Dude, cobra is such a joke omg. Thank you for sharing information on how to apply for EDD and your insights on the industry. You are helping so many people ❤
I’ve been wanting to get into the industry for such a long time and I feel like you’ve shed so much light on it.
So are all of these projects contract work? You mention vacation time but I thought they didn't really get benefits!
It's not necessarily contract, but more like contracted full-time work, where you receive the benefits and everything but just for that period of time. So it's almost like a 1-2 year long commitment depending on what project you're on. But ultimately all the benefits are through the animation union.
That's interesting. My target industry is actually games, I wonder if they have the same thing! @@mewTripled
I can't believe I've been on TH-cam for as long as I have and I still forget to like videos. So here's a like and a comment so you can keep making vlogs or whatever else you want! I finally bought the first Meesh book and I'm reading it rn and love it!! Meesh's grandma is so cute!!
Thank you!! 🥹❤️
I really love hearing your thoughts and experiences in the industry!! About the course, I would love to sign in but, as I'm not a storyboard artist (even though I would consider learning about it!), have you thought about making a course just on how to navigate the industry? Also, do you have any knowledge about the European industry? Thank you so much for sharing your knowledge!! 😊
Thanks so much for letting me know! While I don't have much information on the European industry, I'd love to learn more :) I'll definitely be including navigating the storyboarding career in the storyboard one, but a general animation industry knowledge one is good to know too!
Thanks so much for sharing this side of your life and providing advice on what to do when you get laid off. ")
Glad to help!
Thank you so much for sharing your experience with us!!! ❤I’m gonna use that flexi link :)
Glad to be of help!
Love your videos they have been so helpful for me!!
Thank you!
Oof that's rough bud 😅, mind u it ain't ATLA meme.
Haha
@@mewTripledyep 😂
Thanks for this video, it give me hope 🖤 I've been struggling to get economic stability for years now. I apply to studios, I get no answer, I get few jobs as freelancer, but they are few and far between. I feel I'm just a burden to family (althought they don't say anything, maybe I'm just paranoic). I see a lot videos telling you "how to achieve your dreams and just do it you'll get results" and I get really angry 'cause that dosen't work for everyone, you can apply for years to jobs in this industry and still get knowhere, you get tired of rejection, you try to do your own thing, you don't know where to start, you just do something and hope for the best 🫠 I feel that I should be somewhere different at this point in my life, I feel like shit man 😅
I'm just venting at this point out of desperation 😅 I'm sorry for the rant. Anyway, I apreciated the video ♥️
Thanks for sharing your story, I am sending you my well wishes and hope the best for your situation!
Thank you for this : ^)
Glad to help in any way!