Been watching John for a couple of years, and still never knew about the vocational ministry experience. Even more respect than I had before as a former part-time pastor myself. Appreciate the passion for church security. Hopefully, God will make it possible for me to move my full-time work in that direction eventually. Waiting and working for His timing.
Perspective - Biblically you are in full time ministry. You may just happen to be doing it at a corporation etc. Jesus called us all to "Make Disciples". Good book on this - Your Work Matters to God - Doug Sherman. Hope this makes sense.
@@bwofficial1776 If you're working in a meth lab (I know you're joking), you have a much more pressing issue regarding your eternal salvation. Matt 7:21-23 (scariest verse in the Bible)
Very well said. Before I retired I used to go around with another officer and talk about church security. All I can say is some congregations take their safety more than others.
I red dots on three of my Glocks after Jack’s shooting. I know I can do it but needed my glasses and you don’t have time to put on your readers so I fixed my aiming dives with Holosun 507c gr and a 509k gr.
Somewhere in the early 2000’s we took Baptist out of our name. Still in the charter name but on our sign it says Chestnut Mountain Church. It was for marketing.
“No plane in the United States has ever been knocked out of the sky by turbulence.” Dude, that’s 100% incorrect. There’s a reason we (pilots) call thunderstorms “airplane disassembly factories.” There are numerous accounts of airplanes crashing due to turbulence. As a retired pilot I just had to put that out there. Otherwise, I love your content and keep up the good work. I admire your channel! ❤
@@ASPextra with all due respect, I enjoy listening to you insert aviation info into gun safety. It’s very similar. To say that I’m your “biggest fan” is an understatement.
@@ASPextra “severe turbulence” is the official terminology for it over the radio (I’ve flown in a Level 3 and it’s hella rough). There’s also Clear Air Turbulence that can be severe and has damaged airframes. Unfortunately I had to retire early due to poor eyesight, but I can still fly private. We should rent a plane together some day. I miss flying.
The Mormons have full time security for most buildings. You can ask them for a security plan. But they also ban firearms from Church premises. It's one of my major gripes with the church as a non-member.
@@Jkp1321 i know he was referring to the leadership and primary workspace. And as a Mormon that's seen several different building layouts for Mormon churches i can tell you that while they tend to be similar the layout isn't identical across all Mormon chapels.
@@ImperiumLibertas yeah if they have full time security I've never seen it at church. Maybe you are confusing regular chapels with church headquarters in Utah? Any way, while official church policy is don't bring it i tend to lean on the side of what they don't know won't hurt them. Plus they haven't put up any no gun signs and individual bishops can make the call for their ward. My dad's bishop wants him armed every week. Consequentially i simply don't ask.
2:28 - "Am I going to be able to connect with God if I don't feel safe?" You say no, but I totally disagree. Ask those believers in China or Iran or North Korea or Syria if they feel a connection with God in the most UNSAFE places to be a Christian ... I'll bet they feel more connected to God than any of us in our "secure" churches do. Acts 16:25-26 .
Funny you named the neocon Axis of evil as the most unsafe for Christians, while in reality, the most unsafe country has been Syria, after the US and their vassals armed Jihadis to virtually eradicate and behead the oldest Christians still in existence, while our "Christian" western countries stood by idle. Tulsi Gabbard was smeared a traitor for visiting those Syrian Christians and speaking up for them. The US neocons have done more harm to Christians than any political force for decades.
@@Uncle_Buzz Not a problem. It is a crime and tragedy in which both Democrats and many Republicans have been complicit in, and i would hope it will never be repeated. It will be the end of Christendom in its birth place.
totally agree. I think john was more talking about soft americans that would stop going to a church is didnt have ac or padded seats or if they had to walk more than 50 from their parking space to get inside. church in america in 2022 isnt what church was in the new testament or in the last 2000 years
"... I've had it with that guy..." I still hate that the barely human creature HAD to be put down and Right Then. But John, that was funny as damn can be.
Jack made the shot. Sure it was hard because of the pressure, but someone with some training should be able to make a 16 yard head shot. You could sure miss it too, but I don’t think luck had anything to do with it.
16:00 4 seconds draw to first shot in the head at 16 yds is not grandmaster level. That would be more like a 1.3 - 1.5. A GM can shoot 2 stationary head shots per target on 3 targets at 15 yds in 5 seconds, mostly As (which in USPSA, has a much smaller A zone than a human cranium).
@@ASPextra If he really was GM level his friends would have been alive. Shooting started 2 seconds after he started trying to get his gun out of the holster.
Love your videos however jeeeez is it that bad in the USA that this sort of talk is necessary? its a gun culture too imbedded room for hours of talk but good one love your videos. PS im from sao paulo brazil
Well that was not quite correct I am a pilot I fly jets for a living and yes there have been plenty of airplanes knocked out of the sky because of flying in extreme turbulence. Either clear air turbulence (go look at the B-52 that had its entire vertical fin tore off from clear air turbulence) or thunderstorm turbulence. But of course just a normal light turbulence he’s talking about is nothing more than like riding a boat over some waves.
@@ASPextra That's right you are a Private Pilot. Good for you. Hope you get to fly some as busy you are. Some of the accidents in Thunderstorm turbulence were Commercial operations but that is true most of even those were not Airlines. Even small planes can be a Commercial Operation and Large Planes can be Private Operations. John Travolta used to own and fly a Boeing 707 privately and noncommercial. So that's right the airline sector of Commercial operations are very safe. We don't hear of Airline accidents in the U.S. almost ever anymore. But it has happened the weather channel even has a show called Airline Disasters that has a few cases where even airlines have broken up in midflight because of thunderstorm turbulence or Clear Air Turbulence over the Rocky Mountains. U.S. airlines know better now and just don't fly within 10 miles of thunderstorms. I guess you are right about just the light turbulence does not cause accidents that are just like a boat going over some waves. A few flight attendants have gotten broken legs and ankles from a few severe clear air turbulence events. I have seen a few of those in the news at my airline. This is a fun confidence booster. Last winter a hanger collapsed that a jet at my company was inside and the huge steel beam of incredible weight fell 50 feet onto the jet's wing below and was resting on it and did not damage the wing at all. It just scratched up the paint. It did crush the nose and the engine but the wing was not damaged! Modern jet wings are incredibly strong. Thanks for the excellent instruction that you give! As a commercial pilot I love getting good training and instruction in everything that I do.
You can’t “lone wolf” your faith. Just like you can’t “lone wolf” survive. Yes you can last a long time, but the Bible both old and New Testament point to the value of coming together with like minded believers.
??? If you're not at church, you're neither safe nor unsafe at the church. If you're in there, you're either safe or you're not but if you're not there then you can't be safe or unsafe. Avoiding cults is good, it's best to stick with the mainstream denominations. The biggest churches in any major town tend to be the most mainstream.
@@timunderbakke8756 I especially like the entire sections of the bible dedicated to explaining who and how we are allowed to enslave people. Is that part of your "belief", or do you ignore that part?
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Been watching John for a couple of years, and still never knew about the vocational ministry experience. Even more respect than I had before as a former part-time pastor myself. Appreciate the passion for church security. Hopefully, God will make it possible for me to move my full-time work in that direction eventually. Waiting and working for His timing.
Perspective - Biblically you are in full time ministry. You may just happen to be doing it at a corporation etc. Jesus called us all to "Make Disciples". Good book on this - Your Work Matters to God - Doug Sherman. Hope this makes sense.
This was the first I've heard about the meth-lab ministry. I knew John was a pastor but this was a very interesting dive into his history.
@@bwofficial1776 If you're working in a meth lab (I know you're joking), you have a much more pressing issue regarding your eternal salvation. Matt 7:21-23 (scariest verse in the Bible)
We're getting ready to open a weekly Bible study in my neighborhood this spring. I'm definitely going to keep some of this stuff in mind
Very well said. Before I retired I used to go around with another officer and talk about church security. All I can say is some congregations take their safety more than others.
Looking forward to seeing the rest!
Great topic.
I red dots on three of my Glocks after Jack’s shooting. I know I can do it but needed my glasses and you don’t have time to put on your readers so I fixed my aiming dives with Holosun 507c gr and a 509k gr.
Dot is life as presbyopia gets us all! :)
Somewhere in the early 2000’s we took Baptist out of our name. Still in the charter name but on our sign it says Chestnut Mountain Church. It was for marketing.
“No plane in the United States has ever been knocked out of the sky by turbulence.”
Dude, that’s 100% incorrect. There’s a reason we (pilots) call thunderstorms “airplane disassembly factories.” There are numerous accounts of airplanes crashing due to turbulence.
As a retired pilot I just had to put that out there. Otherwise, I love your content and keep up the good work. I admire your channel! ❤
that's not turbulence, that's a thunderstorm. I am a pilot too.
@@ASPextra with all due respect, I enjoy listening to you insert aviation info into gun safety. It’s very similar. To say that I’m your “biggest fan” is an understatement.
@@ASPextra “severe turbulence” is the official terminology for it over the radio (I’ve flown in a Level 3 and it’s hella rough). There’s also Clear Air Turbulence that can be severe and has damaged airframes. Unfortunately I had to retire early due to poor eyesight, but I can still fly private. We should rent a plane together some day. I miss flying.
As a Mormon, the buildings are similar but not identical. That said i do want to know your answer.
The Mormons have full time security for most buildings. You can ask them for a security plan. But they also ban firearms from Church premises.
It's one of my major gripes with the church as a non-member.
@@Jkp1321 i know he was referring to the leadership and primary workspace. And as a Mormon that's seen several different building layouts for Mormon churches i can tell you that while they tend to be similar the layout isn't identical across all Mormon chapels.
@@ImperiumLibertas yeah if they have full time security I've never seen it at church. Maybe you are confusing regular chapels with church headquarters in Utah?
Any way, while official church policy is don't bring it i tend to lean on the side of what they don't know won't hurt them. Plus they haven't put up any no gun signs and individual bishops can make the call for their ward. My dad's bishop wants him armed every week. Consequentially i simply don't ask.
2:28 - "Am I going to be able to connect with God if I don't feel safe?" You say no, but I totally disagree. Ask those believers in China or Iran or North Korea or Syria if they feel a connection with God in the most UNSAFE places to be a Christian ... I'll bet they feel more connected to God than any of us in our "secure" churches do. Acts 16:25-26 .
Funny you named the neocon Axis of evil as the most unsafe for Christians, while in reality, the most unsafe country has been Syria, after the US and their vassals armed Jihadis to virtually eradicate and behead the oldest Christians still in existence, while our "Christian" western countries stood by idle.
Tulsi Gabbard was smeared a traitor for visiting those Syrian Christians and speaking up for them. The US neocons have done more harm to Christians than any political force for decades.
@@TDCIYB77 Thanks for the education... Good info.
@@Uncle_Buzz Not a problem. It is a crime and tragedy in which both Democrats and many Republicans have been complicit in, and i would hope it will never be repeated. It will be the end of Christendom in its birth place.
totally agree. I think john was more talking about soft americans that would stop going to a church is didnt have ac or padded seats or if they had to walk more than 50 from their parking space to get inside. church in america in 2022 isnt what church was in the new testament or in the last 2000 years
Do you recommend any churches in Washington state?
"... I've had it with that guy..."
I still hate that the barely human creature HAD to be put down and Right Then. But John, that was funny as damn can be.
Are these trainings on one link?
No, they're given here in snippets.
I’ll challenge you on the turbulence statement!!
Woo! Mormon's rule!
The beginning 🤣🤣
Jack made the shot. Sure it was hard because of the pressure, but someone with some training should be able to make a 16 yard head shot. You could sure miss it too, but I don’t think luck had anything to do with it.
Statistics show that once there is return fire casualties drop by 90% in a mass shooting context.
16:00 4 seconds draw to first shot in the head at 16 yds is not grandmaster level. That would be more like a 1.3 - 1.5.
A GM can shoot 2 stationary head shots per target on 3 targets at 15 yds in 5 seconds, mostly As (which in USPSA, has a much smaller A zone than a human cranium).
on a moving target that is actively killing your friends? You can be ticky tack if you want.
@@ASPextra If he really was GM level his friends would have been alive. Shooting started 2 seconds after he started trying to get his gun out of the holster.
GM doesn't draw from concealment much, in reality.
Love your videos however jeeeez is it that bad in the USA that this sort of talk is necessary? its a gun culture too imbedded room for hours of talk but good one love your videos. PS im from sao paulo brazil
This class is specifically to teach church safety. So no it’s not that bad but safety and security are a consideration for many churches worldwide.
Mormon is the new “M” word y’all can’t say it anymore!
Why not?
The name has always been, "The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints". It's Jesus's Church. How people speak of it, reflects on them.
@@davidturner3552 that’s new to me. Not the LDS part but the part of not using the word Mormon
Never used the term “Mormon” since “heretic” is more factually apt.
@@andrewmcgee1351 please don’t turn this into a ‘my religion is best’ thread
Well that was not quite correct I am a pilot I fly jets for a living and yes there have been plenty of airplanes knocked out of the sky because of flying in extreme turbulence. Either clear air turbulence (go look at the B-52 that had its entire vertical fin tore off from clear air turbulence) or thunderstorm turbulence. But of course just a normal light turbulence he’s talking about is nothing more than like riding a boat over some waves.
Commercial air travel? Never seen it. (Though I am just a lowly PPL)
@@ASPextra That's right you are a Private Pilot. Good for you. Hope you get to fly some as busy you are. Some of the accidents in Thunderstorm turbulence were Commercial operations but that is true most of even those were not Airlines. Even small planes can be a Commercial Operation and Large Planes can be Private Operations. John Travolta used to own and fly a Boeing 707 privately and noncommercial. So that's right the airline sector of Commercial operations are very safe. We don't hear of Airline accidents in the U.S. almost ever anymore. But it has happened the weather channel even has a show called Airline Disasters that has a few cases where even airlines have broken up in midflight because of thunderstorm turbulence or Clear Air Turbulence over the Rocky Mountains. U.S. airlines know better now and just don't fly within 10 miles of thunderstorms. I guess you are right about just the light turbulence does not cause accidents that are just like a boat going over some waves. A few flight attendants have gotten broken legs and ankles from a few severe clear air turbulence events. I have seen a few of those in the news at my airline. This is a fun confidence booster. Last winter a hanger collapsed that a jet at my company was inside and the huge steel beam of incredible weight fell 50 feet onto the jet's wing below and was resting on it and did not damage the wing at all. It just scratched up the paint. It did crush the nose and the engine but the wing was not damaged! Modern jet wings are incredibly strong. Thanks for the excellent instruction that you give! As a commercial pilot I love getting good training and instruction in everything that I do.
No one and no plane has a thunderstorm rating.
@@ASPextra Hurricane hunters?
Wow, it's a good thing that you stopped pastoring! Your reflex should always be "what does scripture say?"
Safe church: Watch it online, surrounded by the guns that are always scattered around tour house!
There is nothing about church security in this video.....
That's why it's the intro. An intro is where you set up background and context.
We'll get into it, don't worry. This will be a multi-part series so stay tuned. :)
The best way to be safe at church is to not be indoctrinated into the various flavors of cults and not go to church.
You can’t “lone wolf” your faith. Just like you can’t “lone wolf” survive. Yes you can last a long time, but the Bible both old and New Testament point to the value of coming together with like minded believers.
??? If you're not at church, you're neither safe nor unsafe at the church. If you're in there, you're either safe or you're not but if you're not there then you can't be safe or unsafe.
Avoiding cults is good, it's best to stick with the mainstream denominations. The biggest churches in any major town tend to be the most mainstream.
You need help 😌
@@2009carol2010 Jesus certainly won't help.
@@timunderbakke8756 I especially like the entire sections of the bible dedicated to explaining who and how we are allowed to enslave people. Is that part of your "belief", or do you ignore that part?