Bobcat T770 Quits Me On The Second Job!!🤬🤬
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 28 ส.ค. 2024
- Well....great! About four hours into this job and the Bobcat died and won't start! I'm beginning to think I need to take it out back and shoot it in the head to put it out of it's misery! 😲🤬🤦♂️
Now what?! After some diagnosing I've decided it's not picking up fuel because the primer bulb is sucking air. I was lucky enough to use the hydraulic release inside the cab to lower the loader arms so I could get out of the door. How am i going to get it loaded on the trailer to get it out of here? Looks like the 850 is gonna have to save the day!
A tooth bucket you definitely need makes work slot easier and faster
Yep! I bought one a few weeks ago. Much better.
I was thinking what another guy was thinking the engine returns fuel back to tank that's why it seems like it's using a lot of fuel.
That would be correct. HUA!
When you start soreading the pile of clay. The bobcat start rollng out black smoke..which is a sign of rich diesel mix...something was not right .
Hope you are aware of the problem...good luck.
Yeah, had to put in all new injectors. Thanks!
850 to the rescue great video buddy hope get the skid steer problem fixed 👍
I hope so too, thanks Willard!
Nice dozer.
Thanks! Shes been very well taken care of.
Was the return line just dumping fuel back into the main tank ? Thats why you went through so much diesel
Had to of been! Never even thought about it that day because I was pissed.
Was the fuel return line going back into the main tank, or did you route it to the temporary tank?
I’m sure it was returning to the main tank. Wasn’t even thinking about that. Brain fart!
Have u changed the bulb and filter? My t650 kept shitting the bed replaced both and was fine. Wasn't using a ton of fuel though.
Yeah, I’ve replaced all the fluids and filters. The pickup tube broke off so I had to change it out. It’s all starting to come together I hope! Because it wasn’t taken care of I’ve had to put a bunch of money in it. Thanks!
Y’all have some seriously rocky dirt out there! It’s coming together, can’t wait to see it finished off.
Lol, yeah that’s why I envy all the TH-camrs down south that dig and very seldom hit a rock. We dig down about two inches and we’re in the rock and it doesn’t stop.
Very hard on machines in this part of the country! Thanks!
Also, a tooth bucket makes a night and day difference digging dirt! Rent or borrow a tooth bucket. You'll never attempt another job like this without one. It's easier on the machine too!
I'd probably buy a new bucket and not used. Used buckets are hard to find and usually are way too worn for the money. Tooth bars kind of work, but their geometry is not perfect for cutting grade. Nothing beats a dedicated tooth bucket for cutting and holding grade with a skidsteer. As a former salesman, I'd recommend renting a bucket for the next job and get the saleman to apply 100 percent of the rent to the purchase. It'd be a good deal for both of you.
Yeah, this bucket came with it and is actually in good shape, but they ran it without a bolt on cutting edge and it wiped the weld on out. So I’m planning on buying a tooth bucket and fixing this one to use for a final grade.
I’ve spent a lot on this little sucker already so I’m trying to be careful and not spend a lot right now. I’m planning on getting several attachments as time goes on. Thanks!
Brandon at Elite Earthworks deals with similar soils. He does nearly everything with a toothed bucket. He has to replace it every few years. But, then again, he uses his a lot.
Yeah, if I can get the issues lined out with it i'm going to get a toothed bucket for sure.
We feel the same about skid steers! I have run a few, was told by several people that I was really good on one, but I have never liked them. They have there place but I've done all my projects with my CASE 850H, 590 backhoe and CX145 excavator. Everyone and their brother hauls skid steers and mini ex's around in my town but just not my cup of tea. Hope you get the bobcat back going soon Sir.
Thanks Dave! Yeah they do have their place. But like you my Case 850H is hard to beat on these projects. I will admit though, a skid steer is hard to beat on really smoothing ground up. I hope I can get her lined back out. Thanks Dave!
I'm old school like that too, but I do now have a ctl mainly for backfilling septic systems and light grading ect..
My buddy had a bobcat that was blowing heavy black smoke, turns out the engine was on its last leg but it had close to 5k hours. maybe yours is just injectors....
Oh lord I hope it's not an engine! Lets hope it's injectors....🤦♂️
Thanks for the comment!
Invest in a 4-1 bucket and you will be using that skid for everything. I’m running 7 rubber tracked skids and they all have 4-1 buckets. And on the bobcats they use to have problems with the pickup tube in the fuel tanks and the rubber bulb sometimes will get small pinholes in them
My plan to get some attachments as time goes on. I want to make sure the T770 is going to last before I spend a whole bunch on it. It wasn’t taken care of so I’m feeling the pain (💰💵) now.
Yeah, already had to replace the pickup tube. It broke off in the tank so the machine quit on me.
Thanks bud!
It’s unfortunate that the skid steer is having issues, the thing is that to this point it isn’t catastrophic appearing anyway. If I remember right you said your friend you got the machine from had medical issues so some of the issues may be from him being unable to take care of it properly, not necessarily a fault, it is what it is, I still think once you get thru these issues you’re going to end up with a pretty decent machine, hang in there, you’ll win, I have no doubt, thanks for the video sir.
Thanks Terry....yeah the maintenance wasn't kept up on at all so i'm feeling the pain!💲💵
In both videos with that machine, it blows a fair amount of smoke when under load. Hopefully it’s just needing new filters but they usually blow white smoke when they need a fuel filter but it looks like black smoke. Hopefully it’s nothing serious but you might want to look into it before it becomes a bigger more expensive issue. Also a tooth bar for the bucket would make a world of difference cutting and grading like you were doing in this video.
I had changed all the filters and fluids right after I got it. With it over fueling it has to be an injector/injectors. Most definitely going to stop running it before it wipes a cylinder out. Yeah, this bucket is what came with it. I'm planning on getting a tooth bucket as soon as I can. Thanks buddy!
The fuel is returning to the tank. I can't believe after all these years bobcat doesn't change something about this stupid draw straw set up they got. It obviously doesn't hold up. Had a starving for fuel problem with my t650 and those straws are not easy to get at!
I’d say your right! Yes, a terrible design on the pickup tube! I’ve noticed several engineering designs on this machine that I sometimes scratch my head at. Thanks!
Larry, is it possible that the smoke, excess fuel use and dead engine are all from the same cause? It would be a good thing to stone three birds with one throw!!!
I wonder if the owner subcontracted all those jobs himself? It’s obvious that someone made decisions about how deep to put the house, where to put the septic tank and how high to place the air unit. A decent contractor or engineer would have taken the lay of the land into consideration.
There’s a million dollar home down the road from me that backs up to a hillside. They dug the basement to be 10’ deep. Then the lockdown came and prices hit the sky. The owner decided they would save a little money by going with 9’ walls. As a result the uphill side has no place to drain… air, septic, propane and electric supply were all installed before they called Brandon to landscape it… but, the high price of all the other materials had eaten up any budget to recut the hill for drainage. He did what he could with no guarantee against erosion or basement moisture.
Once you plant a building in the wrong place, mistake compound!
I hope the Bobcat gets well without too much expense!
Hey Dave! I think the builder he used had dirt guys that he normally uses. Probably not the way I would of done things but to each his own.
I think you’ll find in the upcoming videos that I find a fix (not a cheap one mind you) but a fix none the less.
Yeah, you have one shot at getting a basement or crawl space on the right grade. If you don’t, it can wreak havoc for the rest of the build. Thanks buddy!
Sorry that happened to you. Hopefully it will not be too bad to repair.
Thanks Brent....I hope not!
man that is a rock yard
Yes it is! Thats why I was trying to keep some less rocky dirt under me so I didn't cut a track. Thanks!
Well, I am crossing off Bobcat from my buy list - I plan on buying 6 more CTL's for my Landscape Contracting division.
It's really a nice machine and I like the way it operates. The problem with this one was a lack of maintenance so i'm not going to be one of those guys that bashes a brand for having a one bad experience. Once I get all the bugs worked out I think I'll really enjoy it and it'll make a good machine. I'll have more videos coming in the future on how things worked out. Thanks Jeff!
Yes it's rolling out black smoke but it's not oil smoke it's a fuel deal it should be easy to fix I don't know if somebody put a chip in it or what . I don't think it was bad as it was before though
Hey Mark....yeah its definitely over fueling! I'm thinking it's injector time!
Hope it’s not to much to fix but in todays times that’s prob not the case😢. Those little break downs can eat your lunch. Hang in there you’ll get the bugs worked out. All brands make it where you can’t hardly work on our own stuff lol old machines rule!!! LoL I just bought me a 750h so I’m sure it will be rescuing my bobcat one day😂😂😂.
Lol, yeah it is what it is I guess! I'm sure I'll get it lined out. Thanks!
Like the 850!
Yeah she's a nice machine! Thanks!
I just ran across your channel and have watched a couple of your videos and really like them so I subscribed. You must be located in southwest Missouri from the looks of all the red clay and rocks...lol... I've dug and pushed my share of it, I didn't know what good digging was until I started doing dirt work in south Texas for a few years, now I'm back to rolling rocks around in the red clay again!!!
Lol! Hey Jack I appreciate the support! You would be correct on the location. Good ole SW MO rock and clay. The guys down south don’t know what they’re missing by not digging in this stuff. Where are you located?
@@Dirtdaddy953 5 miles east of Lebanon on I-44. I live a mile from a rock quarry, so you can guess what top soil around here, they don't have much over burden to move to get to the rock...lol....
Yep, know exactly where you're at. Lots of rock around there for sure!
You seem to have eliminated most tank or fuel supply line issues. I would guess some kind of lift pump problem. Here the dealer can be your friend. Take the model and serial number down and talk to your local dealer service rep. Bobcats don't use that many different engines in their product line and dealerships are good about knowing commom problems, If it is a lift pump they can tell you if it is internal or external to the injection pump and how to fix the problem. Again , there are lots of those machines out in the field so they'll probably know what is wrong by your decription. Good dealer service shops don't charge for information. Get all info you can from them. It's good business for both parties. Good luck!
Thanks Marion! I’ve utilized my local dealer, google and TH-cam. I’ve been around equipment and trucks all my life but new to skid steers. They are a beast of their own for sure! I’ll get it figured out eventually!
Yes, I sold Case and Bobcat Equipment from 1983 to 1995@@Dirtdaddy953 . Helping customers understand their compact (read no room to work on) equipment maintenance and operation was a big part of the job. I welcomed it as a way to build relationships with my customers, some of whom (such as homebuilders) had never owned a piece of equipment. Being raised on a farm, I always liked to work on my own stuff, but sometimes I need some machine specific information. I still own a Bobcat 763 skidsteer and a Volvo EC220E excavator. Good luck again.
Hope the bobcat doesn't end up being a throne in your side.
I hope not either! We'll see I guess....🤷♂️
Is it burning that much fuel or just returning it to the fuel tank? If its going back to the tank, you should see the fuel gauge going up.
I think it was burning it. The video dosent do it justice on how much smoke it was blowing out. It was a BUNCH!! Thanks bud!
I think it is returning fuel to the tank, we loaded and ecavator on a trailer onece with a five gallon can on the step and it used it all, I think there is an intercooler hose or rad holed as it smokes far more when it is demanding power.
I suppose its possible. Not sure why it would be returning that much to the tank, but possible for sure. Appreciate your comment.
@@Dirtdaddy953 put a bigger can of diesel on the temporary supply and watch the fuel gauge it will go up as it returns the fuel to the tank
Appreciate ya!
Putting that much fuel through the cylinders I don't see how it could run at all and if it did looks like the black smoke would be boiling out constantly under load or not. When you checked the oil was it really runny? Did it smell like fuel? Could be the tremendous amount of pressure it takes to ignite the fuel and with that kind of volume coming into the cylinders might be forcing the fuel past the rings and into the crankcase. If so, the oil should be showing about two gallons over full now. But then the question is why is it sending that amount of fuel through the injector pump and injectors?? I hope it's not the injector pump. Please keep us updated. Here is wishing that you can get it straightened out with the least amount of cash outlay.
Hey James! No, the engine oil is fine and is at the right level. Because the oil hadn't been changed in forever, it turned black in about 5 min. I'm going to run the oil about 75 hours then change it again. Thats why I stopped running it to keep it from washing a cylinder out. It's going to be a process of elimination and I'll keep everyone updated. Thanks!
He didn't actually burn 2 gallons in that time. Running from a jug like that most of the fuel gets pumped into the tank from the return line
You're probably right....thanks bud!